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Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 11:41 am
by Boone777
Hello I have this problem that I am trying to fix. I created a AVLinux live usb on my PC and when I plug it back in after making changes on my laptop I have to use nomodeset while booting or I am met with a black screen.

I started a new thread since my problem seems a different one instead of hyjacking this one: https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 8&start=10

Hello !

I created a usb using persistence and remaster on my home PC with dual monitors. Everything fine

I load the AVLinux on my laptop, make some changes, save persistence and remaster, everything fine.

Now when I plug it back in my PC I have to boot using failsafe nomodeset or I get a hanging black screen after everything as been booting fine.

Only one monitor shows up and I can't seem to be able to change resolution , like on my PC AVLinux install, 1920x1080 16:9 is what it is set to and is fine.
I don't have this option when trying to change it with display running off usb on home PC, it is dead set at 1024x768 4:3 .
I am tempted to use Nvidia driver installer but I don't want to mess my perfectly fine usb AVLinux.

Is there any info about this somewhere I'm pretty sure it is a setting thing ?

I tried a few things already but all those did not work :

- i915.invert_brightness=1
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Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:30 pm

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sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
( It forces the system to use driver "fbdev" )


Edit: Oh, that may be there (automatically) for you used nomodeset .

Just delete, then boot without failsafe nomodeset.
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Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2022 4:01 pm Boot parameters (other than persist keyboard etc.) are same (though they are used twice on the non-booting one)

The only difference are the usb sticks:

Doesn't boot:

ID-7: /dev/sdg maj-min: 8:96 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: USB 3.2Gen1
size: 114.61 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter>
rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR

Boots:

ID-7: /dev/sdg maj-min: 8:96 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra Fit size: 14.32 GiB
block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.00
scheme: MBR


Since it's a persistent one: Do you remember creating any .conf files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ?
In the meantime if there is such a file just delete it: /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Maybe you tried MX Tweak and it created such a file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf (that tells the system to use Intel instead of modesetting)

Consequently: It must be such a thing cause the persistent usb boots if you use nomodeset. If it wasn't booting no matter what you do, then we would say the culprit was the usb stick..

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Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 4:41 am At least out of curiosity (though they use the same parameters), what happens if you remove all parameters and keep just

ro quiet nosplash

and boot?

____________________________________

As a last test (assuming it fits to the other one by size and if you don't feel lazy)

You can clone it (the non-booting one) to another one (preferably that "SanDisk model: Ultra Fit size: 14.32 GiB" or another bigger sized one which's proven to work) on live session with "MX Live Usb Maker" ("Clone running live system") , then try to boot with the new one.

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Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 11:31 am Yes, probably.

Just something, somewhere is causing that.

If you like, you can try to "move" manually:

Prepare that stick again (no clone, just a new AVL stick as before), boot with, then (if you like) make it again "persist_all" ...

Finally copy-paste (overwrite) from here to there: rootfs and homefs (from old to new)


(... Then if it becomes unbootable again, there's absolutely something with rootfs (but what?) )


So my main problems are that I can't change resolution and second monitor is not picked up.
If Nvidia was installed, I did not do it. So my guess is no but here is the info:

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System:    Kernel: 6.0.0-10.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 
           BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet threadirqs nosplash lang=en_US kbd=ca 
           tz=America/New_York persist_all failsafe nomodeset audit=0 intel_pstate=disable 
           hpet=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 threadirqs 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: B75M-D3H serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: F13 
           date: 02/27/2013 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-3770 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 15 cache: L2: 8 MiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 54271 
           Speed: 1607 MHz min/max: 1600/3901 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3671 
           2: 3901 3: 3901 4: 3901 5: 3901 6: 3901 7: 3901 8: 3901 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel IvyBridge GT2 [HD Graphics 4000] 
           vendor: Gigabyte Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor driver: N/A alternate: i915 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0162 class-ID: 0380 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] driver: N/A alternate: nouveau 
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1c82 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-3: Cubeternet GL-UPC822 UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.5.2:8 
           chip-ID: 1e4e:0102 class-ID: 0e02 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: compton v: 1 driver: loaded: N/A 
           unloaded: fbdev display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1024x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 271x203mm (10.7x8.0") 
           s-diag: 339mm (13.3") 
           Monitor-1: default res: 1024x768 hz: 76 
           OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 14.0.5 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GF116 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0bee class-ID: 0403 
           Device-3: BEHRINGER UMC204HD 192k type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio bus-ID: 1-1.2:4 
           chip-ID: 1397:0508 class-ID: fe01 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.0.0-10.1-liquorix-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no 
           Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 13.28 TiB used: 64.1 GiB (0.5%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: KingDian model: S400 480GB size: 447.13 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1A0 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 
           size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD 
           serial: <filter> rev: 90WD scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 
           size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD 
           serial: <filter> rev: 90WD scheme: GPT 
           ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Toshiba model: DT01ACA200 size: 1.82 TiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 
           serial: <filter> rev: ABB0 scheme: MBR 
           ID-5: /dev/sde maj-min: 8:64 type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: HDWD130 size: 2.73 TiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> 
           scheme: MBR 
           ID-6: /dev/sdf maj-min: 8:80 type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: HDWR180 size: 7.28 TiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> 
           scheme: GPT 
           ID-7: /dev/sdg maj-min: 8:96 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: USB 3.2Gen1 
           size: 114.61 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0 C mobo: 27.8 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2609 lib: 1436 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 273 Uptime: 4m wakeups: 1 Memory: 15.51 GiB used: 980.8 MiB (6.2%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI
This info here is from a fresh install that works well on the PC just to compare:

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System:    Kernel: 6.0.0-10.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 
           BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet threadirqs nosplash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: B75M-D3H serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: F13 
           date: 02/27/2013 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-3770 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge 
           family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 15 cache: L2: 8 MiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 54277 
           Speed: 3901 MHz min/max: 1600/3901 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3901 
           2: 3885 3: 3901 4: 3901 5: 3901 6: 3901 7: 3901 8: 3901 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel IvyBridge GT2 [HD Graphics 4000] 
           vendor: Gigabyte Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0162 class-ID: 0380 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] driver: nouveau v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 
           chip-ID: 10de:1c82 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-3: Cubeternet GL-UPC822 UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.5.2:8 
           chip-ID: 1e4e:0102 class-ID: 0e02 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: compton v: 1 driver: loaded: modesetting 
           unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1016x285mm (40.0x11.2") 
           s-diag: 1055mm (41.5") 
           Monitor-1: DVI-I-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96 size: 509x286mm (20.0x11.3") 
           diag: 584mm (23") 
           Monitor-2: HDMI-3 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 96 size: 509x286mm (20.0x11.3") 
           diag: 584mm (23") 
           OpenGL: renderer: NVCF v: 4.3 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GF116 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0bee class-ID: 0403 
           Device-3: BEHRINGER UMC204HD 192k type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio bus-ID: 1-1.2:4 
           chip-ID: 1397:0508 class-ID: fe01 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.0.0-10.1-liquorix-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no 
           Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 13.19 TiB used: 3.87 GiB (0.0%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: KingDian model: S400 480GB size: 447.13 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1A0 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 
           size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD 
           serial: <filter> rev: 90WD scheme: GPT 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 
           size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD 
           serial: <filter> rev: 90WD scheme: GPT 
           ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Toshiba model: DT01ACA200 size: 1.82 TiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 
           serial: <filter> rev: ABB0 scheme: MBR 
           ID-5: /dev/sde maj-min: 8:64 type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: HDWD130 size: 2.73 TiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> 
           scheme: MBR 
           ID-6: /dev/sdf maj-min: 8:80 type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: HDWR180 size: 7.28 TiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> 
           scheme: GPT 
           ID-7: /dev/sdg maj-min: 8:96 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra Fit size: 14.32 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 
           scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 64.0 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: nouveau temp: 40.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nouveau fan: 1650 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2564 lib: 1429 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 257 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 1 Memory: 15.51 GiB used: 919.1 MiB (5.8%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI
[/quote]

Re: Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:03 pm
by timkb4cq
Both those QSI blocks are from the Desktop computer. It would probably help to see the QSI of the laptop hardware since we're trying to figure out what changes being booted on the laptop could have made.

Re: Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:08 pm
by Boone777
timkb4cq wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 12:03 pm Both those QSI blocks are from the Desktop computer. It would probably help to see the QSI of the laptop hardware since we're trying to figure out what changes being booted on the laptop could have made.

Ok as soon as I get a chance I'm working today tx.

Re: Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:18 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
... But your question is really confusing:

First we need to understand which one is the question:

A) I have a persistent live AVL usb. I can only boot with nomodeset. However if I create a new usb it's ok on the same desktop pc even with same parameters, without nomodeset. Why/What can I do ?

B) I have a persistent live AVL usb. It boots fine on my desktop pc, however I can boot it only with nomodeset on my laptop. Why ?

( The trials (at least my suggestions) in the other thread were according to A (Hence the comparison of 2 usbs on the same pc))

Re: Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:36 pm
by Boone777
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:18 pm ... But your question is really confusing:

First we need to understand which one is the question:

A) I have a persistent live AVL usb. I can only boot with nomodeset. However if I create a new usb it's ok on the same desktop pc even with same parameters, without nomodeset. Why/What can I do ?
It works fine on desktop PC until I make changes on the laptop (remaster/persistent save not sure which one I'll investigate) then I need nomodeset on PC .
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:18 pm B) I have a persistent live AVL usb. It boots fine on my desktop pc, however I can boot it only with nomodeset on my laptop. Why ?

( The trials (at least my suggestions) in the other thread were according to A (Hence the comparison of 2 usbs on the same pc))
That's what I'm trying to find out. Why after tempering with usb install on the laptop it does not work as it should on the PC afterwards.

Re: Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:44 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Then (as already said) we need the QSI from laptop, too. To compare at least.

That's why I'd posted such a comment.

Re: Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:07 am
by Boone777
Sorry for the delay here it is for the laptop :

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System:    Kernel: 6.0.0-10.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 
           BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet threadirqs nosplash lang=en_US kbd=ca 
           tz=America/New_York persist_all audit=0 intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable 
           rcupdate.rcu_expedited=1 threadirqs 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire V3-572PG v: V1.26 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Acer model: EA50_HB v: V1.26 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.26 
           date: 12/18/2014 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 44.2 Wh (100.0%) condition: 44.2/55.9 Wh (79.0%) volts: 12.9 
           min: 11.1 model: SANYO 0032334134314C41 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-5200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Broadwell 
           family: 6 model-id: 3D (61) stepping: 4 microcode: 11 cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 17560 
           Speed: 2201 MHz min/max: 500/2201 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2201 2: 2215 
           3: 2201 4: 2201 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1616 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 840M] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: N/A 
           alternate: nouveau bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1341 class-ID: 0302 
           Device-3: Chicony HD WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-7:6 chip-ID: 04f2:b469 
           class-ID: 0e02 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: compton v: 1 driver: loaded: fbdev 
           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: default res: 1366x768 
           OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 14.0.5 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:160c class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:9ca0 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.0.0-10.1-liquorix-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no 
           Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 4000 bus-ID: 02:00.1 
           chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: enp2s0f1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn 
           driver: ath9k v: kernel modules: wl port: 4000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0034 
           class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlp3s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Foxconn / Hon Hai type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-5:4 
           chip-ID: 0489:e04e class-ID: e001 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 3 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 
           sub-v: 1 hci-v: 4.1 rev: 1102 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1022:8 sco-mtu: 183:5 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.02 TiB used: 64.08 GiB (6.1%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01ABD100 size: 931.51 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 
           serial: <filter> rev: 3J scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: USB 3.2Gen1 
           size: 114.61 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> 
           rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
           SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.5 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2609 lib: 1436 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
Info:      Processes: 229 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.68 GiB used: 1.02 GiB (13.3%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI
Video Tweaks:
Detected possible Hybrid Graphics
No kernel video driver

Re: Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:48 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Boone777 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:36 pm... until I make changes on the laptop ...
It uses fbdev on laptop (for whatever reason, though it loads Intel's i915):

Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: compton v: 1 driver: loaded: fbdev

On laptop (you already didn't use failsafe / nomodeset) delete the /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if present of course) , save changes. Then reboot on laptop (and see if that still shows fbdev or not).

Re: Black screen without nomodeset

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:23 pm
by Boone777
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:48 am
Boone777 wrote: Thu Dec 29, 2022 2:36 pm... until I make changes on the laptop ...
It uses fbdev on laptop (for whatever reason, though it loads Intel's i915):

Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: compton v: 1 driver: loaded: fbdev

On laptop (you already didn't use failsafe / nomodeset) delete the /etc/X11/xorg.conf (if present of course) , save changes. Then reboot on laptop (and see if that still shows fbdev or not).
Yes it comes back as exactly the same.
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