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RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:43 pm
by colin_b
I have just noticed I've got 9 new updates, and when I did my hair went grey.

Is everything safe to install?

:eek:

Re: RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:07 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Only 9?

I must be bald then.. *giggle* Had over 120 ;)

Unless you tell us WHAT they are we cannot tell. We are not mind readers.

Re: RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:09 pm
by Stevo
The last updates cracked my crystal ball, so I can't magically know what upgrades you may be getting. You'll have to copypaste the text of what's being shown as upgradeable. If that's in a GUI that doesn't allow copying, get the list with

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apt list upgradeable

Re: RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:26 pm
by colin_b
Oops, my apologies for the lack of detail :embarrassed:

Here's what i received:

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     gir1.2-ayatanaappindicator3-0.1 (0.5.5-2+deb11u2 => 0.5.5-2+mx21+1)
     gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 (2.42.2+dfsg-1 => 2.42.2+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
     libayatana-appindicator3-1 (0.5.5-2+deb11u2 => 0.5.5-2+mx21+1)
     libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 (2.42.2+dfsg-1 => 2.42.2+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
     libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common (2.42.2+dfsg-1 => 2.42.2+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
     localize-repo-mx (22.02.01 => 22.09.01)
     mx-installer (22.9.01 => 22.9.02)
     mx-repo-list (22.8 => 22.9)
     mx-snapshot (22.9 => 22.9.02)

Re: RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:36 pm
by fehlix
colin_b wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:43 pm I have just noticed I've got 9 new updates, and when I did my hair went grey.

Is everything safe to install?
Hope you will now update this thread any time a new package update is due.

Re: RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:09 pm
by entropyfoe
Nine updates, that's a small one as Eadwine Rose wrote.

Most here are hitting 80-120 upgrades.

These are usually big ones associated with Debian point upgrades (11.1 to 11.2 for example).

For the most part they are all safe to take because these are upgrades to packages you already have on your system.
With Debian stable, the chance that an upgrade to something you have causing breakage is very very small (that's why they call it Debian STABLE !)

You should take them all as they contain usually bug fixes and security fixes.

I use synaptic to handle my up-grades, and it will give you warnings. The thing you want to avoid is any changes where it shows many (especially critical packages for video or the system components) packages being deleted of removed. If synaptic says it is removing multiple or hundreds of packages, bail out and do not upgrade. Something may be wrong like you have incorrect repositories enabled. That is how your install gets broken. :frown:

But upgrades to what you have already, very safe, and you can always check the forum to see if any problem is reported, but not likely.

Re: RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:20 pm
by anticapitalista
@colin_b are you sure your Debian repos are working ok?

Re: RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:35 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Please share your quick system info so we can take a looksee.

Re: RE:new updates

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 5:15 pm
by colin_b
Thanks for the replies.

I too got the 81 updates a few days ago and one of the things it broke was indicator-cpufreq which I have been unable to fix. I didn't post anything about it at the time as it had previously been reported, and you probably regard multiple posts about the same issue as a waste of time, especially when you were trying to figure out the problems caused by Debian's update.

When I made my original post on this topic I wasn't sure about the first five items listed...

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     gir1.2-ayatanaappindicator3-0.1 (0.5.5-2+deb11u2 => 0.5.5-2+mx21+1)
     gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 (2.42.2+dfsg-1 => 2.42.2+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
     libayatana-appindicator3-1 (0.5.5-2+deb11u2 => 0.5.5-2+mx21+1)
     libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0 (2.42.2+dfsg-1 => 2.42.2+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
     libgdk-pixbuf2.0-common (2.42.2+dfsg-1 => 2.42.2+dfsg-1+deb11u1)
...so I thought I'd better ask as don't want to cause further problems. The other items were of no concern to me as they are MX items.

My apologies if my post gave people the wrong idea.

Here's my system info:

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-18-amd64 [5.10.140-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-18-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.2_x64 Wildflower April 9  2022 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP 255 G6 Notebook PC v: Type1ProductConfigId 
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: HP model: 8330 v: 27.35 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: F.53 date: 06/19/2020 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 27.6 Wh (100.0%) condition: 27.6/31.1 Wh (88.6%) volts: 12.6 
           min: 11.1 model: Hewlett-Packard PABAS0241231 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> 
           status: Full 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: AMD A6-9220 RADEON R4 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G bits: 64 type: MCP 
           arch: Excavator family: 15 (21) model-id: 70 (112) stepping: 0 microcode: 6006705 
           cache: L2: 1024 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 9981 
           Speed: 1297 MHz min/max: 1300/2500 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1297 
           2: 1297 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected 
           Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT disabled 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: disabled, RSB 
           filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Stoney [Radeon R2/R3/R4/R5 Graphics] vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus-ID: 00:01.0 chip-ID: 1002:98e4 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Realtek HP Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-1:2 chip-ID: 0bda:58ed 
           class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: compton v: 1 driver: loaded: amdgpu 
           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: eDP res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD STONEY (DRM 3.40.0 5.10.0-18-amd64 LLVM 11.0.1) 
           v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: AMD vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:01.1 
           chip-ID: 1002:15b3 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: AMD Family 15h Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:09.2 chip-ID: 1022:157a class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-18-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 
           chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lenovo 
           driver: rtl8821ce v: v5.5.2.1_35598.20191029 modules: rtw88_8821ce,wl port: 2000 
           bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:c821 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-1.4:3 
           chip-ID: 0bda:c024 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 5 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2 
           sub-v: 7644 hci-v: 4.2 rev: 829a 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park 
           link-mode: slave accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, audio 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 19.62 GiB (2.1%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01ABD100 size: 931.51 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 
           serial: <filter> rev: 4C scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 195.31 GiB size: 191.19 GiB (97.89%) used: 10.96 GiB (5.7%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
           ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%) used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
           ID-3: /home raw-size: 731.7 GiB size: 719.14 GiB (98.28%) used: 8.65 GiB (1.2%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 4 GiB used: 2.9 MiB (0.1%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 57.0 C mobo: 20.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 57.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2087 lib: 1045 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://deb.librewolf.net bullseye main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 198 Uptime: 2d 4h 8m wakeups: 10 Memory: 3.73 GiB used: 2.24 GiB (60.0%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: UEFI