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We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:39 am
by keos
Hello,

The new version for Bibletime 3.0.5 is still unstable, it has problems,

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=71226

The old one, bibletime_2.11.2-11, which is in MX-19, is the stable one and we can't get it installed in MX-21 (see above).

I would like to know if it is possible to ask for some developer to put the old version for Synaptic and leave the new one in the MX installer until ...

Thank you very much.

Spanish Forum:
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 93#p691293

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:37 am
by Jerry3904
Bibletime 3.0.3 is available as a flatpak in Package Installer if that would interest you.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:34 am
by keos
It has problems in not a stable version:

https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=71221 [Spanish Forum]

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:14 pm
by keos
Some developer already did some work.

The new version is available in the MX installer (MX Repo-test) bibletime 3.0.3-1

Now we can install the works, bibles, etc. but there is still pending the setting of fonts and colours for the text and the background -- there is no way to configure it and that is very important for those of us who have visual problems.

Thanks.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:50 pm
by timkb4cq
I did a test build of Bibletime 2.11 in MX-21. It builds, installs and runs. You can add works. You can open a bible window - but no text will display therein. It appears the 2.11 source is not compatible with the Qt libraries in debian bullseye/MX-21, and trying to mix Qt library versions in a system never ends well.
Sorry. it's a no-go. Report the issues with 3.0.3 to Debian (they have received no bug reports yet) and upstream.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 4:31 am
by JeffA
keos wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:13 pm Now we can install the works, bibles, etc. but there is still pending the setting of fonts and colours for the text and the background -- there is no way to configure it and that is very important for those of us who have visual problems.
Unless I'm misunderstanding what you want, fonts can be configured: Settings>Configure BibleTime>Fonts, then click on "Use custom font", then use the font and size you want. At least it seems to work for English.

Still no way I see to change the background, other than very limited selections under "Available display styles" under settings.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 5:14 am
by keos
Thanks timkb4cq, but I don't really understand how to report problems, especially because in this case I see that it is a version modified by MX-21 [bibletime 3.0.3-1]...

Besides, the Debian page is complicated for me, I can't find the right place to report this bug.


@ JeffA, I understand how to make the adjustments, but It doesn't work for me in Spanish, it doesn't increase the size of the letters -- and the configuration for the colors is required.


*Isn't there someone knowledgeable in these matters who can resolve the issue?

I've done my part, I give up.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:17 am
by user-green
It must be Debian version, not a version modified by MX.
To report, use reportbug as follows:

Code: Select all

user@mx:~$ reportbug
Welcome to reportbug! Since it looks like this is the first time you have used
reportbug, we are configuring its behavior. These settings will be saved to the
file "/home/user/.reportbugrc", which you will be free to edit further.
Please choose the default operating mode for reportbug.

1 novice    Offer simple prompts, bypassing technical questions.

2 standard  Offer more extensive prompts, including asking about things that a
            moderately sophisticated user would be expected to know about
            Debian.

3 advanced  Like standard, but assumes you know a bit more about Debian,
            including "incoming".

4 expert    Bypass most handholding measures and preliminary triage routines.
            This mode should not be used by people unfamiliar with Debian's
            policies and operating procedures.

Select mode: [novice]

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 6:39 am
by Eadwine Rose
Go to the bibletime site, should be there somewhere where you can report a bug. It's not an MX bug, it is a Bibletime bug.

When I googled this seems a good place to start: https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/issues

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:35 am
by old_guy
While you are sitting around frustrated, why don't you install MX19 in VirtualBox and run the old version of Bibletime in there.
Earl

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:08 am
by keos
I already have MX-19 installed on my PC and it has the same problems, apparently there has been an update/change from Bibletime in their program that ...

-- Eadwine Rose is right, the issue is on their side, as it is widespread in all versions.

I've had enough of the issue, if anyone wants to go to their forum and continue there ...

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:18 am
by Eadwine Rose
We are not going to pick up your issue and report it there, unless there is someone else wanting to use BT and willing to do the work for you.

But unless you report it in, it's definitely not going to get fixed.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 9:52 am
by keos
The good thing about Linux is that there is always the possibility to opt for several solutions, in my case I find that the best was:

# apt-get remove --purge bibletime

# apt-get install xiphos
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Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:23 am
by barefoot
I just love Xiphos and I am usually quick to install it. I also used BibleTime and BibleEdit. All these employ the Scriptures from the Sword Project, so you cannot go wrong with either. Sadly, the later Bible translations aren't available, such as NIV or the 1983 Afrikaans. My very fresh MX Linux is still updating, so Xiphoes will follow once the system update is completed.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:27 am
by MXRobo
Matthew 18:19 FWIW

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:11 am
by bassplayer69
Just a thought, did you try to install the windows version of bibletime through wine on your MX machine? Might be useful until they correct the issue.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:26 am
by barefoot
Go sudo apt install xiphos

You get an app that is really no different from BibleTime or BibleEdit, and it uses the same Scripture repositories. I wouldn't want to run anything Windows-like on my system, such as Wine or PlayOnLinux. That would open the door to security issues. Rather stay on the FOSS track; that is why we are here in the first place.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:12 pm
by bassplayer69
barefoot wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:26 am Go sudo apt install xiphos

You get an app that is really no different from BibleTime or BibleEdit, and it uses the same Scripture repositories. I wouldn't want to run anything Windows-like on my system, such as Wine or PlayOnLinux. That would open the door to security issues. Rather stay on the FOSS track; that is why we are here in the first place.
How so?

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:19 pm
by barefoot
Please apply your mind. Think it through. Running Windows executables is placing your system at risk. Google "malware" if you still don't understand. Why accept risks when there is a FOSS alternative with the very same functionality you desire?

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:36 am
by bassplayer69
barefoot wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:19 pm Please apply your mind. Think it through. Running Windows executables is placing your system at risk. Google "malware" if you still don't understand. Why accept risks when there is a FOSS alternative with the very same functionality you desire?
So, not to draw from the actual topic of this thread, with your statement you are saying that the windows version of bibletime is full of "malware". Also with your statement, you are saying that the wine (or its alternatives) software is full of "malware". Again, how so?

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:16 am
by barefoot
Please learn to READ. I didn't say it was full of malware, I did say there was a RISK of running any Windows executables in Wine.

Don't put words in my mouth. I don't want to become rude, but we are getting close. Best is, start reading non-fiction to expand your general knowledge. Get to the depths of wisdom, think before you lash out and THINK. To think is a process, not an instant emotion.

End of story.

Re: We need bibletime_2.11.2-11 back in MX-21

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:17 am
by richb
Moderator

I am closing this topic. It has gone off topic and personal comments have been made.