Spectacle

[~FLOW~]

Hello all,
I don't know if it's posible to have a repository for a "part" of kde-plasma, but I would like a newer version of Specatle (kde-spectacle).
On KDE Neon, Spectacle is at version 22.04.1 and it has this option :

Screenshot_20220604_090323.png

I take a lot of printscreens with annotations and this was very useful when I was on KDE Neon.
On MX KDE, Spectacle is at version 20.12.3
Thnak you for this awesome distro !

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[TasogareNoOkami]

Hello all,
I don't know if it's posible to have a repository for a "part" of kde-plasma, but I would like a newer version of Specatle (kde-spectacle).
On KDE Neon, Spectacle is at version 22.04.1 and it has this option :
Screenshot_20220604_090323.png
I take a lot of printscreens with annotations and this was very useful when I was on KDE Neon.
On MX KDE, Spectacle is at version 20.12.3
Thnak you for this awesome distro !

I like the idea too but my spectacle (20.12) does this by default.
Does the 22.04 version not use the last used settings on new instances of spectacle ?

If you set spectacle, close it and start it again; are the same settings not retained ?

[~FLOW~]

I presume you are on KDE Neon, because as I wrote,

On MX KDE, Spectacle is at version 20.12.3

So I have to press PrtScr - it takes a photo of the entire dekstop and I have to press "Take a New Screenshot" so that I can make a "Rectangular Region"
I'm trying to mimic the Greenshot actions. And I was able to do it in the newer versions of Spectacle.

If you know how to install a newer version, please share

[TasogareNoOkami]

I presume you are on KDE Neon, because as I wrote,

On MX KDE, Spectacle is at version 20.12.3

So I have to press PrtScr - it takes a photo of the entire dekstop and I have to press "Take a New Screenshot" so that I can make a "Rectangular Region"

After you do this and wish to take another screenshot; does it still not retain the Rectangle Region setting ?
Mine will retain settings; I do not understand what difficulty you are having.
Everytime you wish to take a screenshot you must do so again (a new instance is required).
You should be able to keep spectacle open and take successive screenshots but yes you will have to tell the program that each time.

I'm trying to mimic the Greenshot actions. And I was able to do it in the newer versions of Spectacle.
If you know how to install a newer version, please share

Not sure what behaviour there you are trying to duplicate; spectacle can do rectangle regions.

Normally screenshot is not set for rectangular regions.
To do so in succession:
Start spectacle
Select Rectangular Region
Select Take New Screenshot
Press PrtScr
Select Rectangular Area
Press Enter (do not double-click or press PrtScr again)
Press Take New Screenshot for another region.

This behaviour however is a little inconsistent.
I can get spectacle to work in this fashion but only for a few times.
But pressing PrtScr brings it back.

Check your settings for Remember Selected Region
You'll find it under the first page of options at the bottom.

[Stevo]

I will take a look at it. In the past, it has been possible to upgrade certain KDE applications on the stable Debian KDE base, such as Marble, but most of them require a newer KDE base to start with. In the apps's source code, looking through the CmakeLists.txt file will spell out what the minimum required KDE libraries are.

There is also a former Debian package maintainer that has backported a full updated KDE for Bullseye, and thus MX 21--I think his name is Norbert Preining--yeah, here, he uses the OBS packaging and repo hosting service: https://www.preining.info/

Hmmm..nope for an MX backport for the requested Spectacle--it requires the KDE base to be >= 5.90, and we only have 5.78. Norbert's whole new KDE is the only repo that has a chance for you to get it on Bullseye.

[~FLOW~]

@ TasogareNoOkami : let's recap
This what we have in MX right now :

MX.jpg

This what is in KDE Neon right now :

Neon.jpg

What I would like to do is :
1. I hit key PrtScr, "Rectangular Region" shows up and ONLY that, no Spectacle window yet.
2. I select the region and release mouse click, then Spectacle window shows with the captured area.
3. Make anotations and save photo.

This I can do on Neon, not yet in MX.


@Stevo : thanks

[TasogareNoOkami]

@ TasogareNoOkami : let's recap

What I would like to do is :
1. I hit key PrtScr, "Rectangular Region" shows up and ONLY that, no Spectacle window yet.
2. I select the region and release mouse click, then Spectacle window shows with the captured area.
3. Make anotations and save photo.

This I can do on Neon, not yet in MX.

I noticed your settings in both programs is not identical.
MX: Copy and remember area (mx does not use last used option because that is default)
Neon: Last-used options, Do not copy and do not remember selected area

So yeah, you are going to get different behaviours.

What happens when the two are set identically as much as possible ?

[~FLOW~]

What happens when the two are set identically as much as possible ?

it means that KDE from MX has reached the version from Neon :))

[markol]

Have you tried Flameshot? You can install it via package manager or apt

I'm running Plasma 5.24 and IMHO Spectacle is almost there - but still not yet. I find Flameshot superior.

[~FLOW~]

Have you tried Flameshot? You can install it via package manager or apt

I'm running Plasma 5.24 and IMHO Spectacle is almost there - but still not yet. I find Flameshot superior.

I will give it a tray, I hate it when I have to install another package to my distro...

The good part is that you can use it as an appimage...the bad part is that is not as good as Spectacle or Greenshot.