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MX linux vs Ubuntu Mate 22.04 on my old laptop: why MX will stay

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:13 pm
by MadmanRB
So earlier this year I had to ditch MX linux KDE on my old lappy due to performance issues, its an ol gal with almost 10 year old hardware.
I replaced it with MX XFCE and while a far better experience I never intended to be my main distro for this machine.
I knew Ubuntu 22.04 was around the corner, and Ubuntu MATE seemed like a good fit.
If KDE is clunking then Gnome would be the same, I mean I did briefly try the latest LMDE on my old lappy but it ran very slow and hot.
So I elected on Ubuntu MATE to give a spin.
Now performance wise they are identical, I see no real difference TBH which means Ubuntu mate is solid as usual.
However, the annoyance comes from firefox now being a snap in ubuntu, I find it very slow to load.
Now I have no horse in the pro or anti snap race but when my browser take an eternity to load.... no just no.
I am an avid firefox user so to have it load at a snails pace irks me, yes I can install it via other means but I am not too crazy about hoop jumping for something so simple.
Firefox going snap only in ubuntu was a mistake, and I hope the end users give them hell.

Re: MX linux vs Ubuntu Mate 22.04 on my old laptop: why MX will stay

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:29 pm
by AVLinux
wait...what?

There is no Repo or PPA with Firefox Deb Packages for Ubuntu..? That reeks of insanity..

I used to use this on oldstable versions of Debian, it worked great: https://sourceforge.net/p/ubuntuzilla/wiki/Main_Page/

Re: MX linux vs Ubuntu Mate 22.04 on my old laptop: why MX will stay

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:56 pm
by smawgmaw
If you like the Mate desktop, you can install it on MX Xfce by selecting "task-mate" in synaptic. Or, you can paste and run this command in terminal:

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sudo apt install mate-core mate-desktop-environment mate-desktop-environment-extras mate-applet-appmenu mate-applet-brisk-menu mate-applets mate-backgrounds mate-calc mate-dock-applet mate-hud mate-indicator-applet mate-media mate-menu mate-multiload-ng-applet mate-notification-daemon mate-polkit-bin mate-power-manager mate-sensors-applet mate-sensors-applet-nvidia mate-system-monitor mate-tweak mate-utils mate-window-buttons-applet mate-window-menu-applet mate-window-title-applet materia-gtk-theme mozo pluma eom engrampa atril caja-actions caja-admin caja-gtkhash caja-image-converter caja-open-terminal caja-rename caja-seahorse caja-sendto caja-share caja-wallpaper caja-xattr-tags python3-caja gir1.2-caja-2.0 caja-mediainfo ffmpegthumbnailer

Re: MX linux vs Ubuntu Mate 22.04 on my old laptop: why MX will stay

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:03 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
... or just :

Re: MX linux vs Ubuntu Mate 22.04 on my old laptop: why MX will stay

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:20 pm
by smawgmaw
Huckleberry Finn wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:03 pm ... or just :
Forgot about that option. :embarrassed:

Re: MX linux vs Ubuntu Mate 22.04 on my old laptop: why MX will stay

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:19 pm
by MadmanRB
Yeah, I did play with MATE on MX linux, it works fine.
I just like the subtle tweaks the Ubuntu MATE team does over stock MATE, makes the system feel very professional.
The boot screen, the login, the whole nine yards.
It's something I always liked about Ubuntu MATE, it's far from your typical re spin.
It's much like MX linux in this regard, or Mint.

I am more of a linux Connoisseur, experiencing the flavors and see what suits my palate :D

Re: MX linux vs Ubuntu Mate 22.04 on my old laptop: why MX will stay

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:42 am
by baldyeti
On ubuntu you could simply uninstall the snap version of firefox and replace it with the mozilla binary. It has its own update mechanism so stays up-to-date without even needing to wait for someone to package it for any particular distro.

Re: MX linux vs Ubuntu Mate 22.04 on my old laptop: why MX will stay

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:34 pm
by davidy
Connoisseur eh? Xerolinux will install kvm/qemu as an option similar to MX-Tweak's codec after-boot installer. I have to try it out even if it's arch based. My laptop will stay MX because it works so well with my hardware and I have zero issues. My desktop I'm not done installing so haven't yet decided on what it will be running FT.