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Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:10 pm
by rainfox
In System Settings, Input Devices, Mouse there is the Advance tab with a controll to set the mouse scroll speed.
Unfortunatell this setting seams not to work.

Does someone know what in detail this setting is doing or how I could debug this? MX Linux is the only distribution where I saw this setting at all.
As a workaround I'm using imwheel which is fine for me. But if the setting has this entry it should work.

Attached a screenshot of the setting and my system info.
Screenshot_20211002_213832.jpg

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-5mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-5mx-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
           Distro: MX-19.4_kde_x64 patito feo March 31  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude 5580 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0FH6CJ v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: Dell v: 1.20.2 date: 06/03/2021 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 68.7 Wh condition: 68.7/92.0 Wh (75%) volts: 12.5/11.4 model: SMP DELL WFWKK65 
           type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-7820HQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 
           model-id: 9E (158) stepping: 9 microcode: EA L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 46398 
           Speed: 1600 MHz min/max: 800/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1600 2: 1598 3: 1597 4: 1600 5: 1600 
           6: 1599 7: 1598 8: 1600 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:591b 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce 940MX] vendor: Dell driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0 
           chip ID: 10de:179c 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.4 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel CM238 HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 
           chip ID: 8086:a171 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GM107 High Definition Audio [GeForce 940MX] driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fbc 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-5mx-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel port: f040 bus ID: 00:1f.6 
           chip ID: 8086:15e3 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
           chip ID: 8086:24fd 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 106.50 GiB (22.9%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0B-00YS70 size: 465.76 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 20WD scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 183.50 GiB size: 179.62 GiB (97.88%) used: 106.50 GiB (59.3%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda4 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 15.63 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.5 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2326 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           1: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ buster main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
           1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial-added-by-mxpi.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
           1: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
Info:      Processes: 277 Uptime: 5h 36m Memory: 15.28 GiB used: 1.63 GiB (10.7%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 
           runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:48 am
by Nix Hard
Me too @rainfox
Tried a different mouse, no go either.
Acceleration no work either.

This is the only install I have not changed these settings.
interesting.
Never had a problem with this setting before....

Maybe the next version of MXlinux KDE may fix the bug.

Cheers NH

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:49 am
by Eadwine Rose
Have you given the MX-21 KDE beta a try?

If you do, let us know here if it doesn't work: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=66250

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:07 pm
by rainfox
Just tried the MX-21 KDE beta2 in VirtualBox. It's working there! I tried this in Ocular.
Than I tried in 19.4 also in Ocular (opened a pdf doc). It also worked there!
But... its not working in my Browser (Opera, Brave, Firefox). What is different here?

This is also not working in the beta2.

Is this settings module something that is coming from MX Linux?

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:10 pm
by Nix Hard
You are on to something there @rainfox.
Doesn't work in Ff or Kwrite for me either.
Works in Ocular, go figure.
Tried setting the mouse settings as root, no go either. Plus an old school reboot as well.

These two statements confuse me @rainfox:
"Just tried the MX-21 KDE beta2 in VirtualBox. It's working there! ...."
then you contradict yourself "This is also not working in the beta2."

Which or what is it. Have I missed something?

Cheers NH

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:32 pm
by rainfox
Sorry for confusing or not stating clear.
The behaviour in MX 19.4 and 21 Beta 2 seams to be the same. I found it working in Ocular but not in Firefox.

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:07 pm
by Arnox
I don't know if this is just an FF issue or what, but while scrolling with the wheel in FF works for me, middle-clicking the wheel to bring up the "scroller cursor" does not. Maybe these two issues are related.

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:11 am
by Nix Hard
Auto Scrolling is a setting in Ff settings @Arnox - General - Browsing - Auto scrolling, put tick in the box to enable it. Middle click in a web page to bring up the auto scrolling widget. Works just fine, nothing to do with the problem.
@Arnox not sure what your comment means about scrolling, scrolling works sure Arnox in Ff, but can you change from 3 lines at at a time to say 12 lines for every click of the mouse scroll wheel?

Cheers NH

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:12 am
by srq2625
rainfox wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:10 pm In System Settings, Input Devices, Mouse there is the Advance tab with a controll to set the mouse scroll speed.
Unfortunatell this setting seams not to work.
If you are talking about being able to adjust the number of lines the screen scrolls when turning the mouse wheel - then I agree. This has been an issue for me and Linux ever since I gave Windows the boot and started using Linux.

Behavior seems to be universal to all distros and all desktop environments I have ever tried (and I've done my fair share of distro-hopping).

As an example, I'm using MX Linux 19.4 KDE, I can go into "Mouse - System Settings Module" >> Advanced and adjust the "Mouse wheel scrolls by" configuration and click either "OK" or "Apply" and see no modification in the "speed" of the mouse wheel.

I've long since given that up as a bad job and just enjoy all the wonderful features that do work (and that's most of them).

On the other hand, I might have missed something so I'm interested.

And, just for grins, here's the QSI for my lappie (not the computer in my signature - which also exhibits this behavior):

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-2-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
           Distro: MX-19.4_KDE_x64 patito feo August 9  2020 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Notebook product: W65_67SZ v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 9 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Notebook model: W65_67SZ serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: 1.03.05RLS1 date: 03/13/2014 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 54.5 Wh condition: 54.5/62.2 Wh (88%) volts: 12.4/11.1 
           model: Notebook BAT type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
           Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech M510 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-4710MQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
           arch: Haswell family: 6 model-id: 3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 28 
           L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 39910 
           Speed: 1033 MHz min/max: 800/3500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1033 2: 1238 3: 1084 
           4: 1061 5: 1073 6: 1075 7: 1077 8: 1099 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
           Type: l1tf 
           mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 
           mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK 
           driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0416 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.4 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio 
           vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
           chip ID: 8086:0c0c 
           Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: f040 bus ID: 04:00.0 
           chip ID: 8086:08b1 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
           vendor: CLEVO/KAPOK driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 05:00.2 
           chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 137.21 GiB (29.5%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G2B0A-00SM50 size: 465.76 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> 
           rev: 90WD temp: 37 C scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 20.00 GiB size: 19.56 GiB (97.81%) used: 8.77 GiB (44.8%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
           ID-2: /home raw size: 429.51 GiB size: 421.77 GiB (98.20%) 
           used: 128.01 GiB (30.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 16.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap 
           swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 55.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ buster main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/MX-Linux/workspace/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/MX-Linux/workspace/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 253 Uptime: 15m Memory: 15.57 GiB used: 1.25 GiB (8.0%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

Re: Mouse wheel scroll Setting not working

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:30 am
by Nix Hard
Use to work back in KDE3/Warren Woodford daze, needed acceleration to get from 1st monitor to the 2nd, and scrolling 3 lines at a time in long pages was so slooow
It's all right I'll see myself out; soon as I can find my zimmer frame....

Edit
While looking for the walking frame I found this
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=403842
Plus doing web search shows this issue has been around a while.
imwheel is a common answer, but it has probs too.

ah there's my walking buddy, bye now....