Dedoimedo on MXPI

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Jerry3904
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Dedoimedo on MXPI

#1 Post by Jerry3904 »

Even when I don't agree with him, I always appreciate his taking the time to look carefully and craft a genuine critique:

https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mx-linux-mxpi.html
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This kind of articles makes me want to stop programming, I developed MXPI all by myself, D_O helped a bit and Fehlix fixed some stuff https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packagei ... ntributors
I give it away for free, what do I get in return? People who bitch that the tool is too nerdy. Nice.

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Adrian wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 5:41 pm This kind of articles makes me want to stop programming, I developed MXPI all by myself, D_O helped a bit and Fehlix fixed some stuff https://github.com/MX-Linux/mx-packagei ... ntributors
I give it away for free, what do I get in return? People who bitch that the tool is too nerdy. Nice.
He wants a "store". MXPI is not a "store". Therefore, MXPI suxs.

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Re: Dedoimedo on MXPI

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uncle mark wrote: Wed May 12, 2021 5:51 pm He wants a "store". MXPI is not a "store". Therefore, MXPI suxs.
Yeah, nothing short of a fancy "store" was gonna please Dedoimedo. He wants to see that sort of thing. Me, I'd be kinda disappointed to see something like that in MX Linux; but maybe that's the direction folks want to go in, not sure.

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This makes me so tired. No matter what people may want, the virtual world will never be the real world.
Enough with calling a software manager a "store".
The one "store" I dealt with in another distro had reviews (oh boy! :rolleyes: ) that were outdated and rather juvenile.
The "store" did nothing for me more than MXPI. In fact, I thought it cluttered and silly.
No, Adrian et al have done a fine job.
It's clear - to me, at least - and gets the job done.
I've never had a problem using the various tabs.

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Re: Dedoimedo on MXPI

#6 Post by Jerry3904 »

Actually I would tell him (and have told him directly in the past) that his premise is wrong, but it's a premise that he can't shake: no colors, no images, no good.

Aside from the store question there are some valid points to think about IMO.
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Re: Dedoimedo on MXPI

#7 Post by Adrian »

Just for sake of history, MX Package Installer (and mind you, it's not called "Store" or even "Package Manager") was meant only to install some pieces of software that were not available in the common repos, the rest of the tabs, Regular Debian repo, MX Test, Backports were added later on when people requested them, heck, the program was not even meant to uninstall stuff, I added that later on and was never meant to replace Synaptic or whatever other "professional" program managers. The GUI is very much inspired from an old program called Metapackage Installer from Sidux I think, but with 100% original code (Metapacakge Installer was a GTK program I think, our tool is Qt)
his premise is wrong, but it's a premise that he can't shake: no colors, no images, no good.
It's not that the premise is wrong, he's right to ask for that, but he can get that in other distros, I doubt MXPI will become anything else unless people start to add code, till then if I'm the main contributor of the program it will never be anything that a nerdy package installer that some people in MX community will find useful -- hopefully.

As for programs that crash or don't work as they should a bug report is more useful than a blog post.

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Re: Dedoimedo on MXPI

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I have to take issue with his comment that MXPI makes it much easier to break the system, when IMO it does very little toward that, and does warn the user.

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#9 Post by Eadwine Rose »

Opinions of his.. how much do they really matter? Do they even matter? No.

Let the 'importance' of his opinion go, and just do what we think works.
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Re: Dedoimedo on MXPI

#10 Post by dolphin_oracle »

:hitmyhead:

I read this as more of him lamenting we didn't solve a problem he thinks we have, or rather that the linux ecosystem has. we don't actually see this as a problem, ergo about half the review does not apply.

when he actually talks about mx-packageinstaller itself, its not bad really.

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