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MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:06 pm
by Dugrath
I just had a question, as I have only been running MXLinux now on my laptop for like 2 weeks (its been great btw). How is the AHS for newer laptops and PC with new hardware? In the future I plan on building a PC and if I'm going to spend the money I'd like it to be for the most part updated with newer components so that I do not have to worry about upgrading it for a number of years. Has anyone recently built a newer PC and ran MXLinux on it, or newer laptops? I was looking at the zephyrus g14 for a laptop perhaps to use one day (long battery life and powerful machine). This is all theoretical of course for laptops, as my thinkpad I think will be working just fine for a number of years. I still have Manjaro as my main partition, but I think that's going to change soon as I have had no need for it since I got all the programs I use running great on MX.
Anyway if you could just give some feedback on your experience with MX on newer hardware, laptops etc. I saw in the Hardware/Config section there was a post from 2017 that was taking information for laptops and netbooks that were working properly on MX. Is there a wiki or something where these things are recorded to know compatibility?
Thanks!
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:42 pm
by uncle mark
Someone who knows what they're talking about will chime in I'm sure, but for a custom build it might be smart to post your prospective parts list and see what kind of response you get. I have to believe the only concerns might be for a cutting edge CPU and graphics.
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:26 pm
by Mauser
When you install MX Linux it usually just works. When I built my new desktop computer from scratch, the only issue I had was getting MX Linux to install it on a RAID 10. I ended up installing openSuse and then I was only then able to install MX Linux. For some reason I couldn't get Gparted the RAID 10. Installing openSuse was able to detect the RAID. I had other issues but was I had to use a newer kernel and find the correct settings to have my computer run stable as I found Ryzen CPUs are finicky to BIOS settings. I upgraded the graphics card but had a issue with getting the fans to run which was resolved by help here on this forum. From what I have seen, the most GPU issues are Nvidia but you will not have issues with all Nvidia GPUs as they can happen regardless of brand. Based on my experience with MX Linux hardware support seems to be better than average for Linux. I would like to add when everything is working it tends to stay working on MX Linux.
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 7:19 pm
by Dugrath
uncle mark wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:42 pm
Someone who knows what they're talking about will chime in I'm sure, but for a custom build it might be smart to post your prospective parts list and see what kind of response you get. I have to believe the only concerns might be for a cutting edge CPU and graphics.
This makes sense, I'll likely do this when the time comes to make sure. Can't hurt at the very least.
Mauser wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 6:26 pm
When you install MX Linux it usually just works. When I built my new desktop computer from scratch, the only issue I had was getting MX Linux to install it on a RAID 10. I ended up installing openSuse and then I was only then able to install MX Linux. For some reason I couldn't get Gparted the RAID 10. Installing openSuse was able to detect the RAID. I had other issues but was I had to use a newer kernel and find the correct settings to have my computer run stable as I found Ryzen CPUs are finicky to BIOS settings. I upgraded the graphics card but had a issue with getting the fans to run which was resolved by help here on this forum. From what I have seen, the most GPU issues are Nvidia but you will not have issues with all Nvidia GPUs as they can happen regardless of brand. Based on my experience with MX Linux hardware support seems to be better than average for Linux. I would like to add when everything is working it tends to stay working on MX Linux.
Thanks for the reply. That's helpful. Ill definitely take this into account for when I come up with a build. This is part of the reason why I was considering staying with Manjaro as it usually has the latest drivers+support. I imagine getting fixes wouldnt be too difficult though in here as the community and forum seem pretty responsive.
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:50 am
by Friedrich
Dugrath wrote: Tue Sep 29, 2020 5:06 pm
Has anyone recently built a newer PC and ran MXLinux on it, or newer laptops? I was looking at the zephyrus g14 for a laptop perhaps to use one day (long battery life and powerful machine).
I recently installed MX-KDE (AHS) alongside Manjaro and win10 on a comparably new HP 455 G7, AMD Renoir 4500u and had no trouble with installation. Apart from that which I induced myself as a GPT/UEFI first timer: Wrong GPT/UEFI and Bios settings.
It took me a while to sort that out, but thats not to blame on MX.
The HP has no dedicated Nvidia-graphics like the zephyrus g14 though, so your experience might differ.
https://forum.manjaro.org/t/impossible- ... u/26755/17
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:27 am
by asqwerth
I think if you are looking at hardware (CPU, graphics card, network card, especially) that was just released within 6 months of your new computer build, you should check here with the experts (not me).
The newer the hardware is, the higher the possibility that even the latest Linux kernels or packages upstream have not got the necessary updates/drivers.
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:58 am
by Paul..
I just built a new desktop with moderately high-end graphics...installed the AHS version...works great. Here's the Quick System Info dump...
Shortened version: Asus PRIME X570-PRO motherboard, AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU, AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT Graphics card
Code: Select all
System: Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.6.0-2-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.6.0-2-amd64
root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
Distro: MX-19.2_ahs_x64 patito feo May 31 2020 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME X570-PRO v: Rev X.0x serial: <filter>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1407 date: 04/02/2020
CPU: Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen
family: 17 (23) model-id: 71 (113) stepping: N/A microcode: 8701013
L2 cache: 4096 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
bogomips: 114987
Speed: 2196 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2195
2: 2196 3: 2195 4: 2195 5: 2196 6: 2196 7: 2196 8: 2196 9: 2195 10: 2195 11: 2196
12: 2196 13: 2196 14: 2196 15: 2195 16: 2195
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2
mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics: Device-1: AMD Navi 10 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 09:00.0
chip ID: 1002:731f
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: amdgpu resolution: 2560x1440~144Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT (NAVI10 DRM 3.36.0 5.6.0-2-amd64 LLVM 10.0.0)
v: 4.6 Mesa 20.1.5 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: AMD Navi 10 HDMI Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 09:00.1
chip ID: 1002:ab38
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus ID: 0b:00.4 chip ID: 1022:1487
Device-3: C-Media type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid bus ID: 3-1:2
chip ID: 0d8c:0012 serial: <filter>
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.0-2-amd64
Network: Device-1: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igb v: 5.6.0-k
port: f000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 8086:1539
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 931.52 GiB used: 192.12 GiB (20.6%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 4B6Q scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 1B6Q scheme: GPT
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 229.99 GiB size: 225.38 GiB (98.00%) used: 23.55 GiB (10.5%)
fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-2: swap-1 size: 16.60 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60)
cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda4
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 58.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 60 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info: Processes: 346 Uptime: 4h 33m Memory: 15.61 GiB used: 2.63 GiB (16.9%) Init: SysVinit
v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in
running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:39 am
by shrinker09
I bought a new (cheap, but still new) laptop for the purpose of playing around and trying a few different light Linux distros, and nothing would work. Mint kept shutting down, Sparky wouldn't work right, MX wouldn't shut down. Someone here suggested a spin version of MX that a member here had created (Steve?) so I tried that and the laptop runs perfectly. I think I was told that the spin was for newer hardware. I don't remember, I was a little panicked and desperate at the time. LOL!
I looked up my old post, and what was recommended was this:
"Stevo's AHS respin and see if it works any better. viewtopic.php?p=551710#p551710 "
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:51 pm
by SwampRabbit
Steve’s respin was done before we had updated monthly snapshots of AHS. That respin is outdated now OOTB.
If you download the latest monthly snapshot of AHS you should have everything in that respin and newer.
Here is the link to the September 2020 one
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-lin ... o/download
Re: MX Linux on Newer Hardware (AHS)
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:32 pm
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:51 pm
Steve’s respin was done before we had updated monthly snapshots of AHS. That respin is outdated now OOTB.
If you download the latest monthly snapshot of AHS you should have everything in that respin and newer.
Here is the link to the September 2020 one
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-lin ... o/download
Hey Josh, I've sent you messages on PM and on Slack - if you could answer one of them it would help me a lot. Thanks.