Gnome-Budgie-xfce on MX19.1 ahs

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Gnome-Budgie-xfce on MX19.1 ahs

#1 Post by manyroads »

I'm a bit apprehensive, given the 'underwhelming' lack of interest in my previous posts :bawling: , but I'll give this a whirl anyway.

As part of my on-going COVID19 entertainment efforts, I am moving from tweaking window managers to testing, tweaking and using Gnome & Budgie on MX Linux. My setup is a bit odd in that it requires MX-ahs in order to operate correctly. (I'll post my hardware software details elsewhere, see below)

Anyway as I begin my efforts, I will summarize a few of my initial surprises...

-- these DEs are NOT memory hogs. As a matter of fact, gnome & budgie use 10% LESS (yes, Less) RAM on my machine than xfce4 uses. :eek:
-- gnome & Budgie are only about 5-10% heavier than dwm, hlwm, bspwm, openbox :lipsrsealed:
-- the basic MXPI installer works very well for both DEs; the setups require a minimum of tailoring/ tweaking in order to be functional. :number1:

The basic setup/installs of gnome Basic and budgie idle at 780-790MB of RAM on my platfform; xfce4 idles at 880-890MB of RAM.

fwiw I plan on documenting the details of my learnings and will publish those materials on http://eirenicon.org (for any who might be interested).

If you have experience using Budgie or gnome on MX to share, feel free to share you thoughts. btw. & fwiw I will NOT build these into respins. :needcoffee:
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Re: Gnome-Budgie-xfce on MX19.1 ahs

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Here's a shot of gnome 3.30 on MX19....

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very interesting!

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gnome is actually quite nice as there are numerous tiling options, all easy to use. The image quality is also much better than most DEs offer. There are quite a few things I don't find as pleasant, but it's a great explore. Budgie, on the other hand, runs like a fast, nice xfce consuming fewer resources than the typical xfce does.
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#5 Post by imschmeg »

Is that Mutter running on Wayland, or the older X11 version?

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If you use Ubuntu 20.04 you can run it with Wayland or X as you choose.
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I get the feeling that your XFCE RAM use is about twice as high as on a fresh MX install because of services that those other desktops are starting up at boot or login time, whether you're running that DE or not.

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Hi Stevo... that is a fresh install set of numbers. All 3 are running on the same 'exact' install base. I have actually achieved similar results on other base distros as well.

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$ inxi -Fxxxz
System:
  Host: mx Kernel: 5.4.7-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
  v: 8.3.0 Desktop: Gnome 3.30.2 wm: gnome-shell dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
  Distro: MX-19.1_ahs_x64 patito feo February 15  2019 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5493 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 0M4FW1 v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: 1.8.0 
  date: 03/24/2020 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 39.9 Wh condition: 39.9/42.0 Wh (95%) volts: 13.1/11.4 
  model: BYD DELL 1VX1H9A type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510 
  serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes 
  status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-1035G1 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Ice Lake rev: 5 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 19046 
  Speed: 939 MHz min/max: 400/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 825 2: 867 
  3: 998 4: 936 5: 666 6: 673 7: 952 8: 932 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  chip ID: 8086:8a56 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  compositor: gnome-shell resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel UHD Graphics (Ice Lake 4x8 GT1) 
  v: 4.6 Mesa 19.3.3 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:34c8 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.7-antix.1-amd64-smp 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Dell RTL810xE driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 01:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:8136 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter 
  vendor: Dell driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 168c:0042 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 1-10:5 
  chip ID: 0cf3:e009 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 953.87 GiB used: 609.53 GiB (63.9%) 
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Silicon Power model: SPCC M.2 PCIe SSD 
  size: 953.87 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> rev: ECFM22.5 
  scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 59.74 GiB used: 11.55 GiB (19.3%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 
  ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap 
  dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 63.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Info:
  Processes: 273 Uptime: 13h 01m Memory: 23.26 GiB used: 1.44 GiB (6.2%) 
  Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 
  Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: sakura inxi: 3.0.36 
mark@mx:~
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Re: Gnome-Budgie-xfce on MX19.1 ahs

#9 Post by Adams-J »

For the record, Budgie on MX sounds like a dream come true to me.

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#10 Post by dolphin_oracle »

I ran budgie for a while, but in the end i missed the whisker menu too much. brisk crashed to much back when I tried it.
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