Standard booting vs. sysemd booting

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Standard booting vs. sysemd booting

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What's the difference between them?
I only find out, that standard boot takes about 3 seconds more...
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Poor old sysvinit has to run shell scripts whereas systemd uses C for the heavy lifting.
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And is there any difference after booting is completed?
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#4 Post by Head_on_a_Stick »

Yes, of course — sysvinit doesn't offer true process supervision, can't organise and control services using cgroup hierarchies, has no equivalent of template unit files, and many more besides. Probably best for you to search the interweb for a better answer because if I carry on I'll probably start a flame war :-)
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for the end user, not too much unless some package you want to install requires systemd, which some do (not many, but vendor-provided vpn utilities are a likely pain point).
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#6 Post by JuhaT »

snl wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 12:34 pm And is there any difference after booting is completed?
I always start with systemd. I am no advanced user but I notice no difference in how the computer behaves, other than that the boot process is faster than with sysvinit.

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#7 Post by snl »

JuhaT wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 1:03 pm
snl wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 12:34 pm And is there any difference after booting is completed?
I always start with systemd. I am no advanced user but I notice no difference in how the computer behaves, other than that the boot process is faster than with sysvinit.
Yes, I also set it up in MX boot Options...
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snl wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 11:11 am What's the difference between them?
I only find out, that standard boot takes about 3 seconds more...
to nie je len o case, startujes do roznych initov, s roznymi sluzbami.
bez systemd je tam sysvinit a na spustanie veci sa pouziva systemd-shim.


it's not just about time, you start in different inits, with different services.
without systemd there is sysvinit and systemd-shim is used to run things.

edit: sorry, my fault i wrtte in slovak

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#9 Post by linexer2016 »

dolphin_oracle wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 12:49 pm for the end user, not too much unless some package you want to install requires systemd, which some do (not many, but vendor-provided vpn utilities are a likely pain point).
Indeed and that's the only reason I switched to systemd :crossfingers:

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#10 Post by snl »

redhawk wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 7:38 am
snl wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 11:11 am What's the difference between them?
I only find out, that standard boot takes about 3 seconds more...
to nie je len o case, startujes do roznych initov, s roznymi sluzbami.
bez systemd je tam sysvinit a na spustanie veci sa pouziva systemd-shim.


it's not just about time, you start in different inits, with different services.
without systemd there is sysvinit and systemd-shim is used to run things.

edit: sorry, my fault i wrtte in slovak
Takže tam není moc vliv na stabilitu nebo výkon již běžícího prostředí?

Is tehere any influence on stability or performance?
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