MX wins best XFCE distro of 2019

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https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/best-xfce-2019.html

[richb]

Hmm, All I can say is MX 19 has been running flawlessly for me.

[JayM]

FYI ... a quick search on the Forums Search found 1987 matches: mx19 problems ... some solved ... many not ... lucky you!

Correlation =/= causation. Number of forum posts could simply indicate the rise in popularity of MX. More users, especially newbies, means more problems and questions just like with any distro or version. And regarding those not marked solved, who can say? There are one or two regular posters here who almost never mark theirs solved or provide any feedback whether people's suggestions were helpful or not. Plenty of newbies do the same thing: pop in and ask a question, are given an answer, and are never heard from again. And so it goes.

[JayM]

Regarding the article, I'd like to remind Dedo that MX-18 is a year old and is already at it's third dot release while MX-19 has only been out for two months, plus Debian Stretch and Xfce 4.12 are also very mature products, so much so that they've already been replaced with newer ones. Of course 18 will offer a smoother, less glitchy user experience, while 19 is still undergoing a few expected teething pains. That's to be expected on any recently-released major version. Even the versions of Debian and Xfce that MX-19 is based on/uses are less than a year old.

[figueroa]

The review is one tech's opinion. How can he be so right and wrong at the same time? Opinionated SOB. I just found the December MX-19 snapshot on a mirror in Utah. Running the iso directly in VirtualBox was reasonably flawless, except I can't get sound to work in the VM (couldn't do sound in the the VM with 18.3 directly from the ISO either, but it works find once installed into its own VM). Ran the appimage of Live-usb-maker in Gentoo to make a full-featured Live-USB, and everything works without tweaking. The desktop defaults don't suit my tastes, but that would be 10 minutes of tweaking. Number one hands down. Nothing else has ever worked this well by default. What else could he have chosen?

[asqwerth]

Dedo states at the end of the article:

Looking at the Xfce desktop, it feels cyclical, with a two-cadence, and I am not sure if the plateauing signifies the beginning of a fresh slump that will ripple across the entire desktop environment,

[emphasis mine]

Well of course it's cyclical, since xfce just released 4.14, so various teething problems and bugfixing are still being sorted, compared to version 4.12 which is a mature desktop.

But why would a new release mean that xfce is plateauing? Should it not mean the opposite, ie a period of tweaks and fixes of the new release to improve it? Remember when Plasma was first released? Or how Gnome3 is still being tweaked and changed all the time?

That sentence doesn't really make sense.

[jackdanielsesq]

Yes - agree ...

I like Igor - he has a certain wit about him, we share a lot of synergy in some aerospace sectors,
his writing is improving in leaps & bounds - but he does have a cynical, if not a derogatory twist
to his ramblings & writing occasionally, which I find refreshing ...he's usually right-on-the-money,
technically ... would never want his gig - he obviously enjoys it [still] and makes a decent living

Regards

Jack

Dedo states at the end of the article:

Looking at the Xfce desktop, it feels cyclical, with a two-cadence, and I am not sure if the plateauing signifies the beginning of a fresh slump that will ripple across the entire desktop environment,

[emphasis mine]

Well of course it's cyclical, since xfce just released 4.14, so various teething problems and bugfixing are still being sorted, compared to version 4.12 which is a mature desktop.

But why would a new release mean that xfce is plateauing? Should it not mean the opposite, ie a period of tweaks and fixes of the new release to improve it? Remember when Plasma was first released? Or how Gnome3 is still being tweaked and changed all the time?

That sentence doesn't really make sense.

[winemaker]

seems like this thread is going the way of the other dedo's reviews that jerry posted, eventually was locked. as rixh says - i have it running on 4 different laptops and i have no issues.

[oops]

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But why would a new release mean that xfce is plateauing? Should it not mean the opposite, ie a period of tweaks and fixes of the new release to improve it? Remember when Plasma was first released? Or how Gnome3 is still being tweaked and changed all the time?

This is exactly why I prefers the XFCE DE (as well as the WMs like IceWM too)... the changes are mostly inside (not outside) so no need to learn the new version of XFCE , and it stays user friendly as before.

[asqwerth]

seems like this thread is going the way of the other dedo's reviews that jerry posted, eventually was locked. as rixh says - i have it running on 4 different laptops and i have no issues.

It was only locked after lots of debate, when the thread had run its course.

It's not that I totally disagree with everything Dedo says. I do think there are some small niggles with XFCE 4.14.

But I don't see it as XFCE or distros using XFCE having plateaued, that's all.