MX Linux Remix -Disability and Rescue

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TheDarrenS
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MX Linux Remix -Disability and Rescue

#1 Post by TheDarrenS »

Hello folks,
I have a couple of questions to do with making a remix of MX Linux.

A bit of background why we are asking:
My partner and I want to remix a Linux version to help in two ways, One, we are both disabled and want to take a distro and make it more disabled-friendly. I (Darren) am learning disabled, I have dyslexia and Aspergers. CJ is physically disabled so we want to look at what can be done to make a remix even easier to use for someone with disabilities. Second: CJ at the moment runs a Facebook page that helps Rescue animals as she helps pair people with disabilities with the right animal for them in the UK at the moment. But I want to help her get it off facebook and onto her own site so any donations that a remix gets will go towards A: maintaining the remix and B: helping her maintain Forever home.

So here are the 3 questions.

1: When making a remix, all reference to MX Linux, Antix and Mepis should be removed. *As per specified in the terms of use. So, anything with the MX needs to be rebranded?

2: MX Tools, - When it comes to the MX Tools, do they need to be taken out or renamed?

3: Repositories, - When rebranding and adding other tools is the use of the MX repositories allowed or will they need to be removed?

This is all I can think of at the moment. I appreciate any help and answers to the above questions.



CJ and DarrenS

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#2 Post by junoluna »

i was also curious about this....

here is what the terms of use has to say
Branding

Trademark

The name “MX Linux” is covered by Linux Foundation Sublicense No. 20140605-0483. It is available for fair use in artistic, promotional and informational contexts. Linux® is the registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in the U.S. and other countries.

Restrictions

Anyone distributing a respin that we do not host ourselves must specify that it is a respin in the names of a website, ISO or download location. For example: mx-respin. Furthermore, it must be specified clearly somewhere that products are based on MX Linux but are not connected with it in any official way.

The name “MX Linux” may not be used as part of a respin-project’s website title or in the project’s iso/media without making clear that the it is not an official part of MX Linux.

Logo and art work

As with the name, the logos and art work are also available for fair use, including artistic redesigns, except in a commercial context. They are subject to the same restrictions applicable to the trademark and the name.
https://mxlinux.org/terms-of-use/

good luck with it .. i am sure someone can help you with the questions you have

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#3 Post by TheDarrenS »

Hi Junoluna,
I do hope someone can tell us, i would be nice to get started working on it and not have to switch to some other distro.

Cj and D.
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#4 Post by Jerry3904 »

As the person who put that Terms of Use together I suppose I should answer this. The bottom line is: you may not pretend to be MX Linux or affiliated with it. Examples of bad behavior:

--Twitter account using our logo and name that spews hate.
--Facebook commercial page that calls itself MX Linux and uses our logo, not sure what it does.
--user creating a respin, then posting it on a download site as an MX Linux release.

What you are talking about is completely different. You can use MX Linux as the programmatic base, include its Tools (identifying those that come from us) and stay connected to its repos. Somewhere you will probably state that you are not connected to MX Linux in any way (except as a user), and you will not be using "MX Linux" in the name of your product, title of your website or images/text of advertising.

All good.
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#5 Post by TheDarrenS »

Hi Jerry
We really appreciate you reply and now we can get to working on the Foreverhomeos.
Again thank you so much.
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#6 Post by skidoo »

foreverhomeos
Users will not want to type "all that" and, if misread at a glance (or when a typo is introduced)... ouch.
consider: Foreverhome_OS (FOS)

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Hopefully a firstrun "Welcome" page, or an easily discoverable (via desktop icon?) "About" page
will describe (bullet points and/or extended descriptions) the various additions and enhancements
that are unique to Foreverhome_OS. Users' awareness of such will be important when they
seek support for any given application, or utility, or component pre-installed in Foreverhome_OS.
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#7 Post by TheDarrenS »

Thank you Skidoo, any and all info and help is appreciated.


skidoo wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:20 pm foreverhomeos
Users will not want to type "all that" and, if misread at a glance (or when a typo is introduced)... ouch.
consider: Foreverhome_OS (FOS)

.
Hopefully a firstrun "Welcome" page, or an easily discoverable (via desktop icon?) "About" page
will describe (bullet points and/or extended descriptions) the various additions and enhancements
that are unique to Foreverhome_OS. Users' awareness of such will be important when they
seek support for any given application, or utility, or component pre-installed in Foreverhome_OS.
.
Image source: https://funnygifsbox.com/category/emoti ... -emoticons
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#8 Post by TheDarrenS »

As I am not totally sure what forum section this should be technically in. I will ask here and then move to the correct section if needed.

When renaming all that has mx etc in it is there a file list anywhere that specifies where mx is written? Or will it be a go find it kind of thing?

CJ and Darren.
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TheDarrenS wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:08 pm As I am not totally sure what forum section this should be technically in. I will ask here and then move to the correct section if needed.

When renaming all that has mx etc in it is there a file list anywhere that specifies where mx is written? Or will it be a go find it kind of thing?
YOU DON'T HAVE TO RENAME EVERYTHING! Just don't pretend to be us and all will be cool. The MX-Tools on your system will be the same as the MX-Tools we release and that is fine.

We designed our system to be extremely easy to respin. We *want* you to respin it and we don't want you to have to jump through hoops to do it. As long is you don't pretend to be MX-Linux, it will be fine.

If you are serious about this project (and it sounds like you are), I suggest making your first respins by developing on a live system using p_static_root and remastering as you go. Then when you think you are ready for a release you can use the snapshot program to make an iso file you can distribute.

But that is just phase one. In order to maintain your respin year after year, you should use our Build iso system which we use for making all of our distribution iso files (except for the monthly snapshots).

Again, we want you to respin. We want to make it as easy as possible for you. No hoops. The only catch is we don't want people thinking you *are* MX Linux. This is very easy to avoid and would be naturally avoided by you anyway.

PS: the restrictions are mostly about your website and promotion. Don't say you're MX Linux, say you've respun MX-Linux. Everything else can pretty much stay the same (I think). If I'm wrong then I imagine someone else can provide the list you requested of things that need to be changed. On the technical side, at least, we want to be the distro that is the most easy of all distros to respin.
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#10 Post by dolphin_oracle »

BJ is spot on.

Putting the word "respin" in the name of your iso is a great way to indicate the status.
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