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MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:29 pm
by phil_n
19 is generally working well for me but there are a couple of things:
1) Grub didn't work in either of my installs (would not boot Win1o) and I had to use the Win 10 recovery drive to reset the grub path in bcdedit. For a complete grub menu - MX19, Mint, and Win10 - I have to point it to the file in the Mint (Ubuntu) folder (grubx64.efi).
2) VLC is not behaving - it won't go away when I close it. It stays in the tray (notification area?) and won't leave even if the exit option is pressed. I can only get rid of it by using ps -aux and killing the instance with kill -9.
Otherwise I thoroughly appreciate all the time and hard work put in by everyone there to produce a distro that doesn't have RedHat windoze controlling it.
phil_n
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:16 pm
by JayM
Please run MX Tools/Quick System Info, then right-click paste into a reply. (Quick System Info automatically copies the information to your clipboard, already formatted properly for pasting into the forum so all you have to do is a right-click/ paste, not a copy/paste.) Thanks.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:39 pm
by phil_n
Here's the info:
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System: Host: mx Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-6-amd64
root=UUID=10da9998-01b2-4929-8148-60c8ff9f2aa5 ro quiet splash
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
Distro: MX-19_x64 patito feo October 21 2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine: Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A315-21 v: V1.20 serial: <filter>
Mobo: SR model: Squirtle_SR v: V1.20 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.20
date: 03/13/2019
Battery: ID-1: BAT1 charge: 36.5 Wh condition: 36.5/37.0 Wh (98%) volts: 8.7/7.7
model: PANASONIC AP16M5J type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full
Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M325 serial: <filter>
charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: AMD A6-9220e RADEON R4 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G bits: 64
type: MCP arch: Excavator family: 15 (21) model-id: 70 (112) stepping: N/A
microcode: 6006705 L2 cache: 1024 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 6388
Speed: 1197 MHz min/max: 1200/1600 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1205
2: 1214
Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2
mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Graphics: Device-1: AMD Stoney [Radeon R2/R3/R4/R5 Graphics] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:98e4
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: amdgpu,ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD STONEY (DRM 3.27.0 4.19.0-6-amd64 LLVM 7.0.1)
v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: AMD vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:15b3
Device-2: AMD Family 15h Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus ID: 00:09.2 chip ID: 1022:157a
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64
Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 02:00.1
chip ID: 10ec:8168
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On
driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0042
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros AR9271 802.11n type: USB driver: ath9k_htc bus ID: 3-1.1:3
chip ID: 0cf3:9271 serial: <filter>
IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 178.84 GiB (19.2%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD10SPZX-21Z10T0 size: 931.51 GiB
block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm
serial: <filter> rev: 1A02 scheme: GPT
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 97.66 GiB size: 95.62 GiB (97.92%) used: 60.90 GiB (63.7%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/sda6
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 36 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster/ buster main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release-.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ buster main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info: Processes: 222 Uptime: 50m Memory: 7.32 GiB used: 1.27 GiB (17.4%) Init: SysVinit
v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 9:47 pm
by teddyk67
Your / file system is almost full. LINUX acts weird when that is the case.
Clear up some of the space and I bet the problems go away.
Never Mind.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:01 pm
by JayM
Unless I'm misinterpreting this (which is possible as I'm still trying to wake up) this could be the issue with VLC:
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Graphics: Device-1: AMD Stoney [Radeon R2/R3/R4/R5 Graphics] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:98e4
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: amdgpu,ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD STONEY (DRM 3.27.0 4.19.0-6-amd64 LLVM 7.0.1)
v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes
It looks like your ADM/ATI Radeon driver isn't being used and you have just the VESA video driver. (Edit: yes, I misread it. It's the VESA driver that's unloaded, not the ATI driver. So never mind.)
One observation: your system will be happier with one of the 4.9 kernels and installing then booting with it may solve the issues.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:14 pm
by phil_n
Downloaded 4.9.193......smp through synaptic but nothing happened. Then did a kernel install from the package manager. It went through all the motions like it was installing even to where it said it was uninstalling the 4.19 kernel. Then a message kept popping up something like 'couldn't connect to the bus. Hadn't been started with systemd init.' But it still finished ok. So I rebooted and this is what I have:
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System: Host: mx Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-6-amd64
root=UUID=10da9998-01b2-4929-8148-60c8ff9f2aa5 ro quiet splash
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
Distro: MX-19_x64 patito feo October 21 2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine: Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A315-21 v: V1.20 serial: <filter>
Mobo: SR model: Squirtle_SR v: V1.20 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.20
date: 03/13/2019
Battery: ID-1: BAT1 charge: 36.5 Wh condition: 36.5/37.0 Wh (98%) volts: 8.7/7.7
model: PANASONIC AP16M5J type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full
Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M325 serial: <filter>
charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging
CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: AMD A6-9220e RADEON R4 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G bits: 64
type: MCP arch: Excavator family: 15 (21) model-id: 70 (112) stepping: N/A
microcode: 6006705 L2 cache: 1024 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 6387
Speed: 1188 MHz min/max: 1200/1600 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1187
2: 1187
Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2
mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Graphics: Device-1: AMD Stoney [Radeon R2/R3/R4/R5 Graphics] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:98e4
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: amdgpu,ati unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD STONEY (DRM 3.27.0 4.19.0-6-amd64 LLVM 7.0.1)
v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: AMD vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:15b3
Device-2: AMD Family 15h Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus ID: 00:09.2 chip ID: 1022:157a
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64
Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 02:00.1
chip ID: 10ec:8168
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On
driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0042
IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-3: Qualcomm Atheros AR9271 802.11n type: USB driver: ath9k_htc bus ID: 1-1.1:3
chip ID: 0cf3:9271 serial: <filter>
IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 179.33 GiB (19.3%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD10SPZX-21Z10T0 size: 931.51 GiB
block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm
serial: <filter> rev: 1A02 scheme: GPT
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 195.31 GiB size: 191.75 GiB (98.17%) used: 61.38 GiB (32.0%)
fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 32.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 32 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster/ buster main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release-.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ buster main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info: Processes: 197 Uptime: 1m Memory: 7.32 GiB used: 571.0 MiB (7.6%) Init: SysVinit
v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36
As you can see the system is still using the 4.19 kernel but at least it appears to be using the amdgpu module now.
Thanks for the help.
One other thing - it takes literally forever to shut down - 5, 10, 15 minutes. The bar moves at a snail's pace and then freezes when it gets full. Then I hit the power button.
phil_n
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:15 pm
by timkb4cq
JayM wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:01 pmOne observation: your system will be happier with one of the 4.9 kernels and installing then booting with it may solve the issues.
Unlikely. There wasn't full amdgpu support in kernel 4.9 for the AMD Stoney graphics and support for freesync/adaptive sync wasn't added until 4.21
I suspect the better option would be to install a 5.x series kernel.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:43 am
by anticapitalista
before you install too much, follow teddyk67's advice.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:55 am
by junoluna
i am also unable to close VLC with MX19
tried killing the process in KSysguard but has no effect
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System: Host: junogiraffe Kernel: 4.19.0-6-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-6-amd64
root=UUID=7d1ea286-40d6-458e-8e83-91fabcb699cc ro quiet splash
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel, plank wm: xfwm4
dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-19_x64 patito feo October 21 2019
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Notebook v: Type1ProductConfigId serial: <filter>
Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter>
Mobo: HP model: 8133 v: KBC Version 98.0E serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: F.1C
date: 10/29/2015
Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.1 Wh condition: 38.7/38.7 Wh (100%) volts: 15.4/14.6
model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging
CPU: Topology: Quad Core model: AMD A4-5000 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Jaguar family: 16 (22) model-id: N/A stepping: 1 microcode: 700010F
L2 cache: 2048 KiB
flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 11977
Speed: 799 MHz min/max: 800/1500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 799 3: 798 4: 792
Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Graphics: Device-1: AMD Kabini [Radeon HD 8330] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: radeon
v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:9832
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: AMD KABINI (DRM 2.50.0 4.19.0-6-amd64 LLVM 7.0.1)
v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: AMD Kabini HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:9840
Device-2: AMD FCH Azalia vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 00:14.2 chip ID: 1022:780d
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-amd64
Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Hewlett-Packard RTL810xE driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 01:00.0
chip ID: 10ec:8136
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: rtl8723be v: kernel port: 2000 bus ID: 05:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:b723
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 12.54 GiB (2.7%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01ABF050 size: 465.76 GiB block size:
physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter>
rev: 2C scheme: GPT
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 463.48 GiB size: 455.21 GiB (98.21%) used: 12.53 GiB (2.8%)
fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 14.0 MiB (0.7%) fs: swap
swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 54.4 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 52 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info: Processes: 199 Uptime: 38m Memory: 3.33 GiB used: 1.90 GiB (56.9%) Init: SysVinit
v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:44 am
by junoluna
working now for me ....
maybe just one of those things ... coincidentally happened while i was reading this thread.... or maybe vlc decided to get its act together after i installed sm player
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:28 am
by Eadwine Rose
Easier to use than yet another program, open a terminal:
Or.. ctrl alt esc
Your mousepointer will change to a skull. Click what you want ended.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:31 am
by phil_n
I used gparted in Mint to increase the size of my MX16 root partition to so something more sensible and got vlc to behave better (so far) by removing the "--started-from-file' part in the startup launcher. I also added a new 20G swap partition.
I'm still unsure about the proper way to install a kernel.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:38 am
by junoluna
thanks kindly for the tips eadwine .... very useful
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:43 am
by duane
I just wanted to suggest you read the section of the MX manual that deals with kernel upgrades.
MX has a fine manual that explains things very well.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:38 am
by phil_n
Thanks - I'll do that.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:42 am
by Eadwine Rose
It is not nice to roll your eyes at someone giving you solid advice. Kernels are a complex matter.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:05 pm
by phil_n
Here is the message I get when trying to install a new kernel from the package manager:
System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate.
Failed to connect to bus: Host is down
Warning: Unable to find an initial ram disk that I know how to handle.
Will not try to make an initrd.
And a bunch of other ominous sounding stuff which I could post if it would help.
Maybe I should start a new thread with this?
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:24 pm
by phil_n
Sorry about the eye roll there - it was meant for myself like a 'duh' or face palm - not duane, who I know is trying to help me out here.
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:46 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Ahhh ok! Yeah.. disadvantage of text.. haha
maybe this one next time:
*chuckle*
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:22 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Here's my favorite:
:D
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:30 pm
by phil_n
OK - thanks.
. But should I start new thread about my kernel install problem or will that be cross thread posting?
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:32 pm
by Eadwine Rose
Might be easier to do so, with a descriptive subject line you'll get more help I think :)
Re: MX19 Final Hickups
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:17 pm
by Stevo
phil_n wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:05 pm
Here is the message I get when trying to install a new kernel from the package manager:
System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate.
Failed to connect to bus: Host is down
Warning: Unable to find an initial ram disk that I know how to handle.
Will not try to make an initrd.
And a bunch of other ominous sounding stuff which I could post if it would help.
Maybe I should start a new thread with this?
Those seem to be standard in MX 19 when booted with the default sysvinit, and are generally nothing to worry about in my experience. New kernels show up in the advanced options section of the GRUB boot menu, but you should remove the 4.9 kernel, since it's useless. You can see what packages were installed by checking the history of the updater widget in the taskbar (the little box)--right click it.