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XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:30 am
by sica07
On 12 August, XFCE 4.14 was released. This is the first major release after more than 4 years (!!!). It includes support for VSyncg, HiDPI support, improved GLX support with NVIDIA proprietary/closed source drivers, support for XInput2 and many others goodies. Is there any chance that we'll see the new stable version of XFCE in MX-19(.1)?

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:34 am
by Richard

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:41 am
by asqwerth
If you are adventurous and want to try installing XFCE 4.14 on MX 17/18 (Debian Stretch), read this thread starting from this post:

viewtopic.php?p=521585#p521585

But better make a backup first! And note the potential issues in the said thread.

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux  [Solved]

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:53 am
by sica07
Great news! Thanks for the answers!

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:33 am
by BobbieAN
XFCE 4.14 is a little heavier because of GTK 3 transition but that is expected. On the other hand, screen tearing is finally fixed.

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:19 pm
by carum carvi
BobbieAN wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:33 am XFCE 4.14 is a little heavier because of GTK 3 transition but that is expected. On the other hand, screen tearing is finally fixed.
Since I have solved screentearing in Firefox in MX 18.3 I would like to share my solution. Perhaps it could be of benefit for those people with an Intel driver.

MX Tweak / Congfig Options. Select: use intel driver instead of defaul "modsetting" driver (requires restart).

Advice that pointed me in the right direction I found on this website:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... m-in-linux

All my screentearing problems watching videos were solved instantly.

My specs:
Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26 2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile v: 4.2 Mesa 18.2.6 direct render: Yes

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:39 pm
by Jerry3904
This is a solution for Xfce 4.12, right? So why are you posting it in this thread which is about 4.14?

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:35 pm
by Stevo
carum carvi wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:19 pm
BobbieAN wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:33 am XFCE 4.14 is a little heavier because of GTK 3 transition but that is expected. On the other hand, screen tearing is finally fixed.
Since I have solved screentearing in Firefox in MX 18.3 I would like to share my solution. Perhaps it could be of benefit for those people with an Intel driver.

MX Tweak / Congfig Options. Select: use intel driver instead of defaul "modsetting" driver (requires restart).

Advice that pointed me in the right direction I found on this website:
https://unix.stackexchange.com/question ... m-in-linux

All my screentearing problems watching videos were solved instantly.

My specs:
Kernel: 4.19.0-5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.3_x64 Continuum May 26 2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: intel resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile v: 4.2 Mesa 18.2.6 direct render: Yes
Fixing video tearing and the Firefox scroll glitch for Intel GPU's was the primary reason we added that to MX Tweak in the first place. It was quite annoying back after we bumped up to Mesa 13.0.6. I don't know if it's in our wiki under Tearing fixes, though. AMD GPU users will see an option to add a TearFree option for their drivers, too, though IDK if we added the same thing for the proprietary Nvidia driver, since there's yet another tweak for that.

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:46 pm
by carum carvi
Jerry3904 wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:39 pm This is a solution for Xfce 4.12, right? So why are you posting it in this thread which is about 4.14?
Yes, 4.12. Sorry that I posted in this thread. I was so glad that I found a solution that I wanted to post it and share my solution. This post about the beta release was the first post that mentioned screentearing, so I immediatedly posted my reaction. A few minutes later I realized my solution is already well known. Silly me. But I have been battling with screentearing on another computer for years (without a solution) hence I was so excited to share my solution...

Great though to read about the many improvements MX will have in store for us. I will surely install it...

Re: XFCE 4.14 on MX Linux

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:43 pm
by Jerry3904
I'm glad you got it fixed, and really glad about the changes for 4.14!