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Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:00 am**

How is it about privacy in MX Linux?

The main reason I want to change to MX Linux is, because I am worried about the privacy in Windows 10.

(There are also Linux distributions which are not very good for privacy. For example Ubuntu? I guess. Or I assume also Linux Mint, as it is based of Ubuntu.)

What personal data does MX Linux collect?

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:34 am**

afaik This Ubuntu-taking-personal-data-fiasco is a company decision (what do you call it Canon..thing) , regardless what ubuntu community said . idk About mint since it doesn't work as i hoped it will be so i ditched it after installing , but so far i haven't found data mining or indication to do so from MX ... yet and i hope it won't .

You can rest assured MX Linux wiil mine nothing from you .

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:36 am**

We'll just take your firstborn, nothing major

In all seriousness, as far as I know there is nothing to fear from MX.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:39 am**

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:36 am We'll just take your firstborn, nothing major

In all seriousness, as far as I know there is nothing to fear from MX.

Except MX itself.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:58 am**

Regardless of operating system, your privacy concerns should mainly be directed at any web sites you visit.

There are plenty of add-ons for Firefox and others to reduce your exposure, and you should research what are the best options for you.

Chris

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:01 am**

Pure Debian base - unlike Ubuntu, which is a commercial product, & has its own interests.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 12:23 pm**

Privacy does not exist.
Any operating system installed on the computer considered anti-privacy par excellence. To be sure or almost the chosen system should not use the Internet on this PC. We look for privacy in systems, then we use Facebook Twitter Instagram etc.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:07 pm**

Privacy? People should be more concerned about the information they are spreading all over the net VOLUNTARILY.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 pm**

MXLinux, Firefox ESR, ProtonMail. Electric tape over the little camera on laptop. No self-goals ( Amazon, Google devices etc). Electric tape over fingerprint reader ( not interested in treating myself like a felon!). I can type.
All sensitive data on separate encrypted folder and backed up physically ( not cloud).

Follow the NY Times rule - dont do anything on a browser you would'nt want on the front page of the NYT.

I think thats a reasonable approach, without being too paranoid.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:33 pm**

Before seriously using MX Linux, I did my own security audit by using both MX and antiX in an environment where traffic to/from NICs and serial ports were tapped and logged. I spent quite some time sifting through that to see if there was anything suspicious, in particular the political bookmarks in antiX made me somewhat concerned about MX too. Coupled with the divisive happenings within the Linux kernel near the end of last year, I had my reasons to do this audit.

I could find nothing suspicious or concerning about either MX or antiX, no suspicious traffic sent over wire within the month I was conducting the audit. I did not check the wireless NICs, however that's quite an easy step and is beyond my use cases. As a disclaimer, my audit was not extensive by any stretch of the imagination, I think the only info that devs would see would be the server logs of the mirrors that some devs operate, used when downloading updates.

LnoyBoy wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:07 pm Privacy? People should be more concerned about the information they are spreading all over the net VOLUNTARILY.

I totally agree, I have met people who would get concerned about the government tapping into phones etc, when they splatter their life all over Facebook. Hypocrisy to the core.

rs55 wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 pmElectric tape over fingerprint reader ( not interested in treating myself like a felon!).

What do you expect this to mitigate? The fingerprint reader is meant to be a security feature, and if you don't want to use it, just don't use it.

Posted: **Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:02 pm**

I totally agree, I have met people who would get concerned about the government tapping into phones etc, when they splatter their life all over Facebook. Hypocrisy to the core.

Modified Hanlon's Razor:

"Don't attribute to hypocrisy what can be attributed to stupidity."

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:01 am**

Please note:
I was not precise enough with the title of the thread. Many contributors have made comments on all privacy aspects related to the Internet and computers. But I was only interested in the privacy of the operating system "MX Linux".
If I would have privacy questions about other fields (outside the operating system), for example browsing the internet or using services or cloud, I would ask this in an other forum.
So in the meantime I have changed the titel.

AK-47 wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:33 pm I could find nothing suspicious or concerning about either MX or antiX, no suspicious traffic sent over wire within the month I was conducting the audit.

Thank you. This is what I was asking for.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:02 am**

Be careful with politics and all that, mind the forum rules.

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Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:33 am**

jackdanielsesq wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:20 am Oooooohhhh JayM ....

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Regards

Jack

JayM wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:39 am
Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:36 am We'll just take your firstborn, nothing major

In all seriousness, as far as I know there is nothing to fear from MX.
Except MX itself.

I was just paraphrasing Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Or was it Oingo Boingo?

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:34 am**

LMAO ... you are one bad hombre
Regards
Jack

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:43 pm**

AK-47 wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 8:33 pm Before seriously using MX Linux, I did my own security audit by using both MX and antiX in an environment where traffic to/from NICs and serial ports were tapped and logged. I spent quite some time sifting through that to see if there was anything suspicious, in particular the political bookmarks in antiX made me somewhat concerned about MX too. Coupled with the divisive happenings within the Linux kernel near the end of last year, I had my reasons to do this audit.

I could find nothing suspicious or concerning about either MX or antiX, no suspicious traffic sent over wire within the month I was conducting the audit. I did not check the wireless NICs, however that's quite an easy step and is beyond my use cases. As a disclaimer, my audit was not extensive by any stretch of the imagination, I think the only info that devs would see would be the server logs of the mirrors that some devs operate, used when downloading updates.

LnoyBoy wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 1:07 pm Privacy? People should be more concerned about the information they are spreading all over the net VOLUNTARILY.
I totally agree, I have met people who would get concerned about the government tapping into phones etc, when they splatter their life all over Facebook. Hypocrisy to the core.

rs55 wrote: Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:11 pmElectric tape over fingerprint reader ( not interested in treating myself like a felon!).
What do you expect this to mitigate? The fingerprint reader is meant to be a security feature, and if you don't want to use it, just don't use it.

Well, my logic on the fingerprint readers is - computers can get hacked - right? passwords can get stolen. If you discover that your password was stolen - you can change your password. Or go to a more secure solution like a physical key for 2FA.
If your fingerprint is stolen - its not that easy to change your fingerprint - is it?
And years from now when govts around the world have data bases of everyone's fingerprint and iris scan, maybe someone with access to your fingerprint can hack into all your accounts. And what can you do about it?
And what is the great attraction in the first place? I understand the novelty factor - for teenagers. But its not a great stressful and intellectually taxing endeavour to type in a 6 digit password.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:55 pm**

Heck, I don't find it stressful or taxing to type in 16 to 24 digit complex passwords that store only in the ram in my head.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:05 pm**

privacy geeks will tell you there are 3 things that can be used to keep you secure:
- What you know ( passwords)
- What You have ( physical keys)
- What you are ( fingerprint, iris scan, DNA ...)

I disagree. I proceed on the basis that everything can be hacked/compromised. If my password is stolen - I can change it, if my key is stole - I can replace it, but ...... if my physical cellular info is stolen , there is not a thing I can do about it.
And all the folks casually scanning in their fingerprints all over the place ( including cellphones) have to consider the possibility that 5 years from now when they go for a job interview or to collect social security , they are rejected because someone with that fingerprint was running guns in the middle east or something.

Posted: **Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:22 pm**

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