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Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:58 pm
by brolly
Hi guys

Rufus one of the reasons i run Windows in a VM. I use MX 18.3. Unlike most linux iso writers Rufus has GPT, MBR, and ?hybrid iso mode (i think it's what its called. the method that downloads extra files when writing a linux ISO). Most linux options like Etcher, WoeUSB, MX USB Maker Unetbootin, and Mintstick seem to write in MBR and don't seem to be as feature rich as Rufus. MX USB Maker doesn't like my Sandisk pendrives. Is there Linux software that contains or exceeds Rufus? Thanks in advance

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:21 pm
by manyroads
Never used Rufus... don't have Windows. I use dd.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:44 pm
by fehlix
brolly wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:58 pm GPT, MBR, and ?hybrid iso mode (i think it's what its called. the method that downloads extra files when writing a linux ISO). Most linux options like Etcher, WoeUSB, MX USB Maker Unetbootin, and Mintstick seem to write in MBR and don't seem to be as feature rich as Rufus. MX USB Maker doesn't like my Sandisk pendrives. Is there Linux software that contains or exceeds Rufus? Thanks in advance
Such a question shall by asked the to rufus developer. But I guess, as that's winOS app you will not find a direct linux port.
Further you are mixing a couple of things.
hybrid-iso's can be installed using dd-(disk dump) mode: used by Etcher, Mintstick.
or installed by recreating partitions on the USB stick and creating the corresponding boot-loader.
MX Live USB Maker can create dd-dumped USB stick or create USB sticks like Rufus with creating partitions either in GPT or in MBR mode.
For creating reliable LiveUSB's with persistence we do recommend to use ext4 partitions - as created by MX Live Usb Maker - due to the journaled filesystems ext4, which allows recovery of filesystem "on the fly", e.g, after a system crash.
Rufus generated LifeUSBs do not provide this reliability feature available through ext4 journaled file system.
HTH
:puppy:

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:02 pm
by brolly
fehlix wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 8:44 pm
brolly wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 7:58 pm GPT, MBR, and ?hybrid iso mode (i think it's what its called. the method that downloads extra files when writing a linux ISO). Most linux options like Etcher, WoeUSB, MX USB Maker Unetbootin, and Mintstick seem to write in MBR and don't seem to be as feature rich as Rufus. MX USB Maker doesn't like my Sandisk pendrives. Is there Linux software that contains or exceeds Rufus? Thanks in advance
Such a question shall by asked the to rufus developer. But I guess, as that's winOS app you will not find a direct linux port.
Further you are mixing a couple of things.
hybrid-iso's can be installed using dd-(disk dump) mode: used by Etcher, Mintstick.
or installed by recreating partitions on the USB stick and creating the corresponding boot-loader.
MX Live USB Maker can create dd-dumped USB stick or create USB sticks like Rufus with creating partitions either in GPT or in MBR mode.
For creating reliable LiveUSB's with persistence we do recommend to use ext4 partitions - as created by MX Live Usb Maker - due to the journaled filesystems ext4, which allows recovery of filesystem "on the fly", e.g, after a system crash.
Rufus generated LifeUSBs do not provide this reliability feature available through ext4 journaled file system.
HTH
:puppy:
Nice prompt response. The issue i face is that MX Live USB Maker doesn't like my SanDisk sticks. I don't know whether I'm missing something in the settings :cry:

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:05 pm
by Jerry3904
What does"doesn't like" mean exactly? Can you describe the problem you are seeing more accurately or in more detail? Any error messages?

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:25 pm
by brolly
Jerry3904 wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:05 pm What does"doesn't like" mean exactly? Can you describe the problem you are seeing more accurately or in more detail? Any error messages?
"like" means its throwing error messeges. I will come back with them in a while

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:00 pm
by JayM
Use GParted, select the USB, delete all existing partitions, click apply, go to Device/Create Partition Table and create a new msdos partition table, then try MX-LUM again. Be careful that you've selected the USB stick in GParted first so you don't accidentally delete hard disk partitions.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:26 pm
by asqwerth
Which model of SanDisk? Adrian will tell you there are some models that are unreliable which he avoids like the plague.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:16 am
by masterpeace
I was also having similar issue with live medium ... until i found that the one i used for live medium is a fake-GB chinese flash drive , it is listed as a 8GB and showed 8GB on the computer but in reality only having physical 128MB flash drive forced on usb3 (i tore it open after failing more than 4 times on RUFUS) . I got it for free as a bonus from local coffee shop .

Please check the serial number listed on the package and compare it to what terminal says ...

Hope this helps ...

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 am
by bled
unetbootin-506.pet
(puppy linux)

it is better than rufus...

it has gpt, mbr...

it can install on hdd, usb...

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:03 am
by JayM
bled wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 am unetbootin-506.pet
(puppy linux)

it is better than rufus...

it has gpt, mbr...

it can install on hdd, usb...
If anyone uses unetbootin make sure it's a recent version (>625) or the Live USB and persistence features may not work.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:27 am
by bled
no, it is not important that unetbootin is latest...

i use ver. unetbootin-506.pet converted in .deb
and it works perfectly...

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:06 am
by JayM
bled wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:27 am no, it is not important that unetbootin is latest...

i use ver. unetbootin-506.pet converted in .deb
and it works perfectly...
Per the MX User Manual it's important. Some versions prior to 625 are incompatible with the antiX full-featured USB features. Perhaps you were lucky and happened to get an older version that isn't incompatible.

Anyway, the MX Live USB Maker (LUM) can be downloaded from GitHub and installed on any Linux distro, and on Windows there's Rufus.

Let's wait and see what luck brolly has with LUM after re-creating the partition table, or which particular SanDisk USB thumbdrives he has (which may be one of the ones known to have issues.)

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:27 am
by brolly
Jerry3904 wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:05 pm What does"doesn't like" mean exactly? Can you describe the problem you are seeing more accurately or in more detail? Any error messages?

MX Live USB maker give an "Error encountered in the usb creation" Ive tried different advanced options without joy. The DD option completed writing successfully but my computer gives me a no boot media error when i select SanDisk in the advanced boot options in my bios

The writing log is as follows:
===============================================================================
Starting live-usb-maker
===============================================================================
live-usb-maker Will use target device /dev/sdb (28.7G SanDisk Ultra Fit)
Will use source file /home/brolly/Desktop/My Documents/Macrium_Reflect_7.2.4156_Server_Plus_x64.iso

Total Used Extra
entire drive 29,328 29,327 1 MiB
main partition 29,277 44 29,233 MiB
uefi partition 50 0 50 MiB
Ready to make live-usb on device sdb
... by copying file /home/brolly/Desktop/My Documents/Macrium_Reflect_7.2.4156_Server_Plus_x64.iso
live-usb-maker: partition-clear >> partition-clear
live-usb-maker: partition-make >> partition-make
Using gpt partitioning
live-usb-maker: makefs-bios >> makefs-bios
live-usb-maker: makefs-uefi >> makefs-uefi

Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sdb1 ext4 29G 44M 29G 1% main
/dev/sdb2 vfat 50M 0 50M 0% uefi

live-usb-maker: copy-uefi >> copy-uefi
copy from iso to uefi partition
files: [Ee][Ff][Ii] boot/{grub,uefi-mt} version
live-usb-maker: copy-main >> copy-main
copy from iso to main partition
copy remaining files ...

live-usb-maker: uuids >> uuids
live-usb-maker: install >> install
extlinux version 6.03

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:29 am
by brolly
JayM wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:03 am
bled wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 am unetbootin-506.pet
(puppy linux)

it is better than rufus...

it has gpt, mbr...

it can install on hdd, usb...
If anyone uses unetbootin make sure it's a recent version (>625) or the Live USB and persistence features may not work.
GTP and MBR give me a "Error encountered in the usb creation" DD option writes successfully but the media on the USB is unbootable

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:32 am
by brolly
asqwerth wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:26 pm Which model of SanDisk? Adrian will tell you there are some models that are unreliable which he avoids like the plague.
I have the following SanDisk models; cruizer blade 16 GB, ultra 32GB usb 3.0 and mini 32GB USB 3.0

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:34 am
by brolly
masterpeace wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:16 am I was also having similar issue with live medium ... until i found that the one i used for live medium is a fake-GB chinese flash drive , it is listed as a 8GB and showed 8GB on the computer but in reality only having physical 128MB flash drive forced on usb3 (i tore it open after failing more than 4 times on RUFUS) . I got it for free as a bonus from local coffee shop .

Please check the serial number listed on the package and compare it to what terminal says ...

Hope this helps ...
My SanDisk models are legit. I bought them directly from the Sandisk website. They work well with Rufus the capacity shown on Rufus and MX Live USB writer are consistant

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:35 am
by brolly
JayM wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:00 pm Use GParted, select the USB, delete all existing partitions, click apply, go to Device/Create Partition Table and create a new msdos partition table, then try MX-LUM again. Be careful that you've selected the USB stick in GParted first so you don't accidentally delete hard disk partitions.
Ive tried that method. No luck with it.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:06 am
by fehlix
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:27 am MX Live USB maker give an "Error encountered in the usb creation" Ive tried different advanced options without joy.
The DD option completed writing successfully but my computer gives me a no boot media error when i select SanDisk in the advanced boot options in my bios
live-usb-maker Will use target device /dev/sdb (28.7G SanDisk Ultra Fit)
Will use source file /home/brolly/Desktop/My Documents/Macrium_Reflect_7.2.4156_Server_Plus_x64.iso
The idea of MX Live USB Maker is to create either from MX/antiX ISO's a LiveUSB in full featured mode (to enable persistence) or to create a DD-dumped LiveUSB in readonly mode from iso-hybrid ISO's.
The ISO you tried above might be a WinPE based/created ISO, i.e. it is neither a MX/antiX ISO nor probably a iso-hybrid ISO.
Even if dd-dump succeeded with WInPE or winOS based ISO's, does not mean that the create USB is bootable at all.
In addition any other attempt to use dd-based USB writer like Etcher, Mintstick will not make a WinPE iso boot neither.
:puppy:

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:13 am
by brolly
fehlix wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:06 am
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:27 am MX Live USB maker give an "Error encountered in the usb creation" Ive tried different advanced options without joy.
The DD option completed writing successfully but my computer gives me a no boot media error when i select SanDisk in the advanced boot options in my bios
live-usb-maker Will use target device /dev/sdb (28.7G SanDisk Ultra Fit)
Will use source file /home/brolly/Desktop/My Documents/Macrium_Reflect_7.2.4156_Server_Plus_x64.iso
The idea of MX Live USB Maker is to create either from MX/antiX ISO's a LiveUSB in full featured mode (to enable persistence) or to create a DD-dumped LiveUSB in readonly mode from iso-hybrid ISO's.
The ISO you tried above might be a WinPE based/created ISO, i.e. it is neither a MX/antiX ISO nor probably a iso-hybrid ISO.
Even if dd-dump succeeded with WInPE or winOS based ISO's, does not mean that the create USB is bootable at all.
In addition any other attempt to use dd-based USB writer like Etcher, Mintstick will not make a WinPE iso boot neither.
:puppy:
fehlix wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 9:06 am
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:27 am MX Live USB maker give an "Error encountered in the usb creation" Ive tried different advanced options without joy.
The DD option completed writing successfully but my computer gives me a no boot media error when i select SanDisk in the advanced boot options in my bios
live-usb-maker Will use target device /dev/sdb (28.7G SanDisk Ultra Fit)
Will use source file /home/brolly/Desktop/My Documents/Macrium_Reflect_7.2.4156_Server_Plus_x64.iso
The idea of MX Live USB Maker is to create either from MX/antiX ISO's a LiveUSB in full featured mode (to enable persistence) or to create a DD-dumped LiveUSB in readonly mode from iso-hybrid ISO's.
The ISO you tried above might be a WinPE based/created ISO, i.e. it is neither a MX/antiX ISO nor probably a iso-hybrid ISO.
Even if dd-dump succeeded with WInPE or winOS based ISO's, does not mean that the create USB is bootable at all.
In addition any other attempt to use dd-based USB writer like Etcher, Mintstick will not make a WinPE iso boot neither.
:puppy:
Yes the ISO i was trying to write is based on WinPE. Does this mean i should stick to using Rufus in a Window$ environment?

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:14 pm
by dreamer
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:13 am Yes the ISO i was trying to write is based on WinPE. Does this mean i should stick to using Rufus in a Window$ environment?
Yes. There are many Windows based tools for dealing with WinPE and Rufus should handle it. Trying to do Windows things from Linux seems unnecessary since there is probably no use for your WinPE unless you run Windows.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:48 pm
by turtlebay777
If you guys recall, I had a lot of problems with a Sandisk USB, where the Ubuntu based tools wrote ISO but the Debian based ones like MX wouldn't. Eventually I gave the stick away, with a recent version of MX on it, to a Windows diehard who was comp-laining of slow speeds with Win 10 on his PC!

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:21 pm
by brolly
***Update*** WoeUSB did the trick but what im not sure off is whether it supports both secure and legacy boot? I am also keep to try Unetbootin. I can't install recent versions on MX. If i'm not mistaken i think I saw a "wget"..."git" terminal version somewhere. Please help.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:30 pm
by brolly
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:21 pm ***Update*** WoeUSB did the trick but what im not sure off is whether it supports both secure and legacy boot? I am also keen to try Unetbootin. I can't install recent versions on MX. If i'm not mistaken i think I saw a "wget"..."git" terminal version somewhere. Please help.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:31 pm
by Stevo
Someone on the Debian forums mentioned that the only Linux tool he found that worked for MX and them was something they found on pendrivelinux (?). I think it had "linux" and "live" in the app name and was downloaded from sourceforge...

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:44 pm
by penguin
a google search would not resolve the problem ?

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https://www.google.no/search?client=opera&q=rufus+similar&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

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https://rufus.en.softonic.com/windows/alternatives

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https://alternativeto.net/software/rufus/

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:58 pm
by baldyeti
What i've done in the past (for a MBR-partitioned, fat32-formatted stick), is extract the MX ISO content to the root of the stick, then install syslinux to the stick. This way you do not end with a read-only stick as you would with "dd". Works for me as an installer or rescue tool. If you are going to use persistence, the MX USB Maker with ext4 is a better, supported solution.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:30 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Meanwhle, I always wondered if one day any Linux guy(s) get(s) permission and make Rufus' Linux version.

When asked "Do you plan to port Rufus to Linux?" , Pete Batard says :

"I certainly wish I could, because it sounds like a nice challenge, but I just don't have the time for that. ... Then again, Rufus is Free Software, so if anybody wants to try to port it to another platform, they are very welcome to do so! "

" Do you plan to add Linux persistent partition support (e.g. for Ubuntu)?"
"Yes. It is being added for the Rufus 3.6 release "

https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wiki/F ... e_other_OS

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:44 pm
by brolly
Huckleberry wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:30 pm Meanwhle, I always wondered if one day any Linux guy(s) get(s) permission and make Rufus' Linux version.

When asked "Do you plan to port Rufus to Linux?" , Pete Batard says :

"I certainly wish I could, because it sounds like a nice challenge, but I just don't have the time for that. ... Then again, Rufus is Free Software, so if anybody wants to try to port it to another platform, they are very welcome to do so! "

" Do you plan to add Linux persistent partition support (e.g. for Ubuntu)?"
"Yes. It is being added for the Rufus 3.6 release "

https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wiki/F ... e_other_OS
I read that earlier in the day. I astomished by the fact that there millions of software developers out there but not even one has thought of a "rufus type" tool for Linux :mad:

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:10 pm
by turtlebay777
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:44 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:30 pm Meanwhle, I always wondered if one day any Linux guy(s) get(s) permission and make Rufus' Linux version.

There is no need to always quote the full text of the previous reply, it just takes up unnecessary space and server bandwidth.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:16 pm
by Eadwine Rose
turtlebay777 wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:10 pm
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:44 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:30 pm Meanwhle, I always wondered if one day any Linux guy(s) get(s) permission and make Rufus' Linux version.

There is no need to always quote the full text of the previous reply, it just takes up unnecessary space and server bandwidth.
Mod note: There is also no need for backseat modding.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:31 pm
by GuiGuy
For a few dollars one can purchase a bootable MX dvd or usb stick.
If you don't wish to use Rufus/Microsoft, and you can't make a usable live-MX with your present distro, why not pay up and stop complaining?

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:46 pm
by brolly
dreamer wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:14 pm
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 10:13 am Yes the ISO i was trying to write is based on WinPE. Does this mean i should stick to using Rufus in a Window$ environment?
Yes. There are many Windows based tools for dealing with WinPE and Rufus should handle it. Trying to do Windows things from Linux seems unnecessary since there is probably no use for your WinPE unless you run Windows.
When you say WinPE are you referring to ISO images or windows based environment builders? On the contrary I don't use windows. I bought Macrium Reflect when i was a windows user. That's one of the WinPE solutions i use purely to backup my systems secondly i have other WinPE solutions to securely wipe drives and to run live usb antivirus solutions. Finally You CAN "do Window$ things" on Linux AND there are cross platform solutions too (I'm sure you know that already). I tested WoeUSB AND Unetbootin which is cross platform too (I'm sure you already know that)...Virtualbox? VLC VMware? Libreoffice? WPS Office? Firefox? I'm sure you know where i'm heading to...They "do Window$ things" on Linux I've tested WoeUSB and Unetbootin ...oh Yeah which are cross platform and "do Window$ things on Linux. I'm only looking for a Rufus alternative for Linux to complement my staying away from Window$. WoeUSB and Unetbootin cut it. My objective is to find a solution that can handle WinPE based ISO's. Both for legacy and secure systems.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:53 pm
by fasterfaster
@brolly

Hello! I realise you're looking for something for Linux, but I strongly recommend YUMI for Windows. I vaguely remember trying it in WINE, but I don't recall whether it worked the same as in Windows or not. In Windows, it was always my go-to. Good luck in your quest.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:55 pm
by brolly
GuiGuy wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:31 pm For a few dollars one can purchase a bootable MX dvd or usb stick.
If you don't wish to use Rufus/Microsoft, and you can't make a usable live-MX with your present distro, why not pay up and stop complaining?
Huh? Since when has asking an open question been complaining? If you go back a few pages you come a statement i made about buying genuine usb sticks directly from their website? Lol. Go back to my original question for clarity. this thread is not about trying to make a usable live MX of my present distro lol. Once again if you read the first few responses in this thread you will realise that MX Live USB Maker cannot handle WinPE based environments. I'm sure you now understand why i am asking for recommendations for a Rufus alternative.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:59 pm
by brolly
fasterfaster wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:53 pm @brolly

Hello! I realise you're looking for something for Linux, but I strongly recommend YUMI for Windows. I vaguely remember trying it in WINE, but I don't recall whether it worked the same as in Windows or not. In Windows, it was always my go-to. Good luck in your quest.
Thanks for your response. WoeUSB and Unetbootin answered my question. I'm not keen on using WINE.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:02 pm
by brolly
baldyeti wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:58 pm What i've done in the past (for a MBR-partitioned, fat32-formatted stick), is extract the MX ISO content to the root of the stick, then install syslinux to the stick. This way you do not end with a read-only stick as you would with "dd". Works for me as an installer or rescue tool. If you are going to use persistence, the MX USB Maker with ext4 is a better, supported solution.
Thanks for the info I appreciate it :toast2:

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:05 pm
by brolly
bled wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:58 am unetbootin-506.pet
(puppy linux)

it is better than rufus...

it has gpt, mbr...

it can install on hdd, usb...
Thank you I've taken it for a spin. So far so good

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:23 pm
by brolly
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There is no need to always quote the full text of the previous reply, it just takes up unnecessary space and server bandwidth.
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Point taken. Apologies for my noob error

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:24 pm
by brolly
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:55 pm
GuiGuy wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:31 pm For a few dollars one can purchase a bootable MX dvd or usb stick.
If you don't wish to use Rufus/Microsoft, and you can't make a usable live-MX with your present distro, why not pay up and stop complaining?
Huh? Since when has asking an open question been complaining? If you go back a few pages you will see a statement i made about buying genuine usb sticks directly from their website? Lol. Read original question for clarity. This thread is not about trying to make a usable live MX of my present distro lol. Once again if you read the first few responses in this thread you will realise that MX Live USB Maker cannot handle WinPE based environments. I'm sure you now understand why i am asking for recommendations for a Rufus alternative.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:27 pm
by brolly
Yes. There are many Windows based tools for dealing with WinPE and Rufus should handle it. Trying to do Windows things from Linux seems unnecessary since there is probably no use for your WinPE unless you run Windows.
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When you say WinPE are you referring to ISO images or windows based environment builders? On the contrary I don't use windows. I bought Macrium Reflect when i was a windows user. That's one of the WinPE solutions i use purely to backup my systems secondly i have other WinPE solutions to securely wipe drives and to run live usb antivirus solutions. Finally You CAN "do Window$ things" on Linux AND there are cross platform solutions too (I'm sure you know that already). I tested WoeUSB AND Unetbootin which is cross platform too (I'm sure you already know that)...Virtualbox? VLC VMware? Libreoffice? WPS Office? Firefox? I'm sure you know where i'm heading to...They "do Window$ things" on Linux. I'm only looking for a Rufus alternative for Linux to complement my staying away from Window$. WoeUSB and Unetbootin cut it. My objective is to find a solution that can handle WinPE based ISO's. Both for legacy and secure systems.
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Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:32 pm
by brolly
Sorry Double response

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:25 pm
by v3g4n

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 11:29 pm
by Eadwine Rose
brolly wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:23 pm Point taken. Apologies for my noob error
This was not a comment directed at you, you didn't make a mistake. See your PMs. 😉

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:34 am
by JayM
In the past I've also looked for a Rufus clone for Linux, one that has all or most of Rufus's features, and there just aren't any. All there are, are the ones listed in the alternativeto page that v3g4n posted a link to, plus MX Live USB Maker. Many of those others can't create a full-featured, persistent antiX/MX USB, but just a dd-like read-only one as an installation medium.

I wish the Rufus dev would port it to Linux, but apparently he either can't or isn't interested in doing so or else he would have by now. Maybe someone else can give it a shot as its source code is available.

One think I like about Rufus is how easy it is to create a Freedos bootable USB which is handy for doing things like BIOS flashes or running an old DOS game.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:06 am
by brolly
I completely agree with that statement. I guess i might have to continue using my Window$ VM for the complex functions

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:14 am
by Raitsa
Reposting this from another thread: Rufus developer _Akeo_ giving some great infos about .isos, answering "will Rufus be available for linux" questions etc.
Very informative stuff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/co ... tually_do/

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:29 pm
by brolly
Raitsa wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:14 am Reposting this from another thread: Rufus developer _Akeo_ giving some great infos about .isos, answering "will Rufus be available for linux" questions etc.
Very informative stuff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/co ... tually_do/
Great read. Thanks

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:48 pm
by TTwrs
I too have been desirous of a Rufus alternative. I've tried all the methods mentions here with unsatisfactory results. I've been using the following with good results...

https://github.com/BitJam/live-usb-maker

run from terminal to download and run the latest version of live-usb-maker...

cd /tmp
git clone https://github.com/BitJam/live-usb-maker
git clone https://github.com/BitJam/cli-shell-utils
cd /tmp/live-usb-maker
sudo ./live-usb-maker expert

Hope that helps.

Re: Please recommend a Rufus alternative for Linux that ACTUALLY works like Rufus

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:54 pm
by masterpeace
to be honest just use dd with "conv=sync" . i was told by someone that in a IRC chat "rufus is dd-GUI in windows with bloat (read : feature)" . that's verbatim . unetbootin is great imo , but most forum dwellers (debian , arch , devuan , artix , void , gentoo , freeBSD , openBSD , slackware , manjaro) told me to avoid unetbootin as there are a lot of bug report regarding ISO burned / cloned with unetbootin . so far nothing wrong with this method , i even managed to install hackintosh and windows 10 on this machine .

and if dd with "conv=sync" (general convention that comply with POSIX) do not work try "sync &&" (Arch-based) or "oflag=sync" (Ubuntu-based) . #to clone the ISO verbatim regardless of hardware generational difference#

if that do not work add "bs=4096" (general convention that comply with POSIX) , or "bs=4MB" (Debian , Ubuntu and Arch based) . #modify block size in case of first generation of uefi bios bug#

but on MX we used general convention and works with debian convention too . don't forget to format it to fat32 first , if you somehow messed up and deleted the partition table , in gparted use write new partition table with msdos option .

if this succeed then the USB won't be able to mount (except you have NTFS support or in root mode) . this is normal .

the iso will boot in all bootloader (grub , clover , chameleon , nt , plop , apple) just choose the "system configuration" in most bootloader (except nt boot loader , pray so that nt-boot-loader will detect) . oh don't forget to give grub a delay (/etc/default/grub/grub.conf >> grub_delay = x , x>0" ) in case of you have grub installed .

hope this helps .