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Posted: **Mon May 13, 2019 11:58 pm**

I get my xfce environment misbehave. The panel won’t load any apps and I can’t jump in to another apps. I have already renstalled the xfce4 package, but it seems not working. After I run the Inxi command I found out that it doesn’t have xfce, screenshot below. Any suggestion?

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System:    Host: Mx-Linux Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
          [b]Desktop: N/A[/b] Distro: MX-18.2_x64 Continuum March 14  2018 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: K42Jc v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: K42Jc v: 1.0 serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends 
           v: K42Jc.216 date: 09/26/2011 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 100% condition: N/A model: N/A status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3 M 370 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem 
           rev: 5 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19153 
           Speed: 1463 MHz min/max: 933/2399 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1256 2: 1091 3: 943 
           4: 1084 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GT218M [GeForce 310M] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting,nouveau unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 18.2.6 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: AzureWave AW-NE785 / AW-NE785H 802.11bgn driver: ath9k v: kernel port: d000 
           bus ID: 03:00.0 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: JMicron JMC250 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK driver: jme 
           v: 1.0.8 port: 9000 bus ID: 07:00.5 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 51.26 GiB (17.2%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST9320325AS size: 298.09 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 18.58 GiB used: 9.85 GiB (53.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: /home size: 271.74 GiB used: 41.40 GiB (15.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 37.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 46 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list

Posted: **Tue May 14, 2019 1:39 am**

Add another user. XFCE will probably behave fine. Learn as you go.

Posted: **Tue May 14, 2019 2:00 am**

MX Tweak/Panel tab/Restore default panel might fix it.

Posted: **Wed May 15, 2019 9:25 pm**

Here are the feedback:
- I’ve restored the panel to default: Mx Tweak → Panel tab→ Restore default panel and it doesn’t solve the problem.
- I have added a new user. Let’s say user2 is my choice. User2 and it’s xfce is doing, very fine. But the problem is user2’s Home directory stay empty like nothing. Of course I still can access the user1 Home directory (where I store all my files) when I log in as user1 but the problem with its DE still exist right? I hope you get what I’m saying.

thank’s to figueroa & JayM by the way

Any other suggestion?

Posted: **Tue May 21, 2019 10:53 pm**

I have no idea what happened to your system but if your second user's home directory didn't get populated with the usual directory structure I would say your system is completely hosed. At this point I would suggest backing up all of your personal data files, redownloading the MX ISO being careful to check its md5 value to ensure that you have a good download, burning it to a USB, booting from it, checking data integrity again from the USB's boot screen to make sure the burn is OK, and reinstalling. If you didn't do anything to cause these problems then it sounds like either you installed from a bad download of the ISO or you have some hardware (RAM, maybe) that's going bad. If you still have problems after a reinstall, boot from the USB again and run memtest. It could also possibly be your USB stick starting to have problems, so you might try a different one than you used last time.

Posted: **Tue May 21, 2019 10:59 pm**

it sounds like a quite things to do, But It's fine I got your point.
Thank's for your help

Posted: **Tue May 21, 2019 11:27 pm**

It's possible that when you installed you forgot to tell it to mount /home in separate home partition that you created, so it mounted /home inside of root which is causing your root partition to be too full. That would explain why your second user's home directory didn't get populated with the directory structure and files from /etc/skel. If you reinstall and reuse your existing partitions take extra care where the root, swap and home partitions are specified in that screen of the installer. Otherwise everything except swap gets mounted inside of /.

Idea: check your /etc/fstab file, and post its contents here please. If /home is inside of / on sda1 it may be possible to change it to mount /home on sda3 instead, without having to reinstall. Your existing system may still be able to be recovered.

Posted: **Tue May 21, 2019 11:36 pm**

I am not sure if I mounted my Home inside root partition while I install my compter. But yeah as you said it probably is.
I'll check that on Gparted also the flag parameter too.

Thank's Jay

Posted: **Tue May 21, 2019 11:36 pm**

mkbdd wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 9:25 pm But the problem is user2’s Home directory stay empty like nothing. Of course I still can access the user1 Home directory (where I store all my files) when I log in as user1 but the problem with its DE still exist right? I hope you get what I’m saying.

Copy the files you want, but not the hidden files (those that begin with a .) from user1 to user2. When you are happy with the results, then you are done. Or, if you are really happy, then you can remove user1.

Posted: **Tue May 21, 2019 11:42 pm**

Copy the files you want, but not the hidden files (those that begin with a .) from user1 to user2. When you are happy with the results, then you are done. Or, if you are really happy, then you can remove user1.

Okay, How do I copy my file? is it possible to use cp or mv command?
I'm ok if I have to delete my user1 accocunt, is that don't have effect with all my app configuration setting?

Posted: **Tue May 21, 2019 11:50 pm**

figueroa wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 11:36 pm
mkbdd wrote: Wed May 15, 2019 9:25 pm But the problem is user2’s Home directory stay empty like nothing. Of course I still can access the user1 Home directory (where I store all my files) when I log in as user1 but the problem with its DE still exist right? I hope you get what I’m saying.
Copy the files you want, but not the hidden files (those that begin with a .) from user1 to user2. When you are happy with the results, then you are done. Or, if you are really happy, then you can remove user1.

Except he said that his user2's home directory is empty.

mkbdd, can you run System/Disk Usage Analyzer and see how much free space there is on root (if your messed-up system will let you run it? If not, open a terminal if you can and run

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baobab

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sudo baobab

Posted: **Tue May 21, 2019 11:56 pm**

JayM wrote: Tue May 21, 2019 11:50 pm Except he said that his user2's home directory is empty.

He did not mean EMPTY. He meant that it didn't have his user1 files in user2. If it was really empty, the XFCE desktop would not load.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:02 am**

All right, this is probably my fault.

user2’s Home directory stay empty like nothing.

what I mean by that is my user2' Home directory stay have a standard folder like "first install" But my current files and document isn't there.

I can still access ALL my files when I log in as user1 and using another DE to navigate (oh, now I installed gnome and LXDE too) like normal use.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:05 am**

Thank's figueroa for the help

He did not mean EMPTY. He meant that it didn't have his user1 files in user2. If it was really empty, the XFCE desktop would not load.

it is true what he said Jay

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:14 am**

so, How about copy files between different users?

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:22 am**

You said it was empty, meaning that there were no Documents, Desktop, Downloads, etc. directories. I was just going by the information I was given. (Why would you expect your own personal data files to be in another user's home directory?)

Log in as root. Open Thunar and navigate to /home/user1 then select the directories you wish to copy such as Documents, Music, Videos, etc. and choose Copy.

Navigate to /home/user2 and paste.

Open a terminal and run

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chown -R user2:user2 *

where "user2" is the user name of the second user account you created.

Log out and back in as user2.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:33 am**

You said it was empty, meaning that there were no Documents, Desktop, Downloads, etc. directories. I was just going by the information I was given. (Why would you expect your own personal data files to be in another user's home directory?)

I'm sorry Jay it's me, we cool right?

I'm just panic at that momment

Thank's again for your help and figueroa of course...

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:50 am**

No prob, it just threw me off the track. I was thinking you had bigger issues than you do, maybe a full root partition.

After running as your user2 for a few days, if you don't have any more problems and you're sure you have everything you need data-wise from the user1 home directory you can go ahead and delete your user1 account and its home directory from within User manager, which is found inside the MX Tools application. (Menu: MX Tools/MX Tools) which will tidy up your OS by not having a broken user account still hanging around as well as free up some disk space.

Posted: **Wed May 22, 2019 12:55 pm**

JayM wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 12:22 am Log in as root. Open Thunar and navigate to /home/user1 then select the directories you wish to copy such as Documents, Music, Videos, etc. and choose Copy.

Ordinarily, no need to log in as root. Consistent with default user file permissions, user2 can usually copy user1's data by just navigating to /home/user1. Copy from terminal or using the file manager.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 10:13 pm**

figueroa wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 12:55 pm
JayM wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 12:22 am Log in as root. Open Thunar and navigate to /home/user1 then select the directories you wish to copy such as Documents, Music, Videos, etc. and choose Copy.
Ordinarily, no need to log in as root. Consistent with default user file permissions, user2 can usually copy user1's data by just navigating to /home/user1. Copy from terminal or using the file manager.

Right, no need to log in as root using gksudo Thunar or something else.
Just simply copy and paste as usual. So far everything goes fine. Thanks to you all guys.

Posted: **Fri May 24, 2019 10:19 pm**

JayM wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 12:50 am No prob, it just threw me off the track. I was thinking you had bigger issues than you do, maybe a full root partition.

After running as your user2 for a few days, if you don't have any more problems and you're sure you have everything you need data-wise from the user1 home directory you can go ahead and delete your user1 account and its home directory from within User manager, which is found inside the MX Tools application. (Menu: MX Tools/MX Tools) which will tidy up your OS by not having a broken user account still hanging around as well as free up some disk space.

great... After all that's not something that big, is that ?
Just need a new user and migrate all that data to it, again Thanks a lot for your help.

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