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Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:34 pm
by KBD
Not sure what to make of all this "Linux love" from Microsoft:
https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/6/18534 ... el-feature

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:20 pm
by JayM
Microsoft is also promising to update this kernel through Windows Update
Uh-oh.

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:44 pm
by rs55
As long as MS is "root" - i say, "no thanks".

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 5:51 am
by Eadwine Rose
Don't MS servers already run on Linux? Not surprised by this.

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 10:13 am
by MadmanRB
Eadwine Rose wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 5:51 am Don't MS servers already run on Linux? Not surprised by this.
Yup, azure is sort of linux based..... sort of.
As for what i think about this, well I am neutral.
This is not the Same Microsoft as what Bill gates had or Ballmer had.... no its a new animal.
One that seems at war with itself, with Nadella actually being one of the good guys wanting co operation with others rather than control.
Microsoft needs to adapt, they need to change.
To be the big bad Microsoft is not going to be in their favour for much longer they need to change and for his part Nadella is doing the right thing.
Its the rest of the company that seems to be doing its own thing, he may be in charge but he is in charge of a discordant band that makes The Shaggs* look like the philharmonic.
While i still dont trust Microsoft its certainly a different beast now then it was under Ballmer.
When Nadella leaves I hope he leaves the company in good hands as if there is another Ballmer we are kind of screwed.
While i actually think Microsoft funding linux is actually a good thing, their reputation in the past makes me wary about the next dude who comes in.

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eEpyxoNkwk

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:56 am
by Jan K.
Windows 10?

They can ship it with whatever they like, even hard cash. Won't touch it... :lipsrsealed:
Microsoft is also promising to update this kernel through Windows Update,
Yeah, that's surely a fail-safe and well-tested way to get quality updates...


6 more months of transition testing and my +30 year with Microsoft comes to the end.

Linux for the future! :number1:

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:53 pm
by j2mcgreg
Well they can try, but I don't see it as being a big deal. Why would a sys-admin or cto buy into a knock off when he or she can get the real thing for free?

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 1:41 pm
by KBD
j2mcgreg wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 12:53 pm Well they can try, but I don't see it as being a big deal. Why would a sys-admin or cto buy into a knock off when he or she can get the real thing for free?
Good point. But the idea is probably to keep people in the MS ecosystem.

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 4:37 pm
by manyroads
j2mcgreg wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 12:53 pm Well they can try, but I don't see it as being a big deal. Why would a sys-admin or cto buy into a knock off when he or she can get the real thing for free?
IBM/Red Hat seem to be running with that model, as well. Oh and they're making money.

Re: Microsoft is going to ship a full Linux kernel Win10

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 5:00 pm
by Head_on_a_Stick
manyroads wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 4:37 pm
j2mcgreg wrote: Tue May 07, 2019 12:53 pm Well they can try, but I don't see it as being a big deal. Why would a sys-admin or cto buy into a knock off when he or she can get the real thing for free?
IBM/Red Hat seem to be running with that model, as well. Oh and they're making money.
Just FYI, the top four corporate contributors to Linux kernel development in 2017 were Microsoft, Google, Red Hat & IBM (in descending order).

https://twitter.com/mjasay/status/960563592683667456

EDIT: and IBM spent a lot of money defending Linux in the SCO lawsuits.