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Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:38 pm
by Captain Brillo
Over the last couple of weeks my MX system has been falling apart - first there was VPN issues, then email issues....
So I just did a complete fresh install in a re-formatted partition.
Random programs crash, every program freezes, it's really ugly.
Even "Systemback" from your Test Repo doesn't work any more...and it was working brilliantly.
So I had to back it up with Timeshift, but I wonder if I wasted my time.
I don't know what the hell is going on here, and would appreciate any help.
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:42 pm
by fehlix
Quick System Info might be a good start point...
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:43 pm
by MAYBL8
I'm just going to throw this out there.
Maybe a hardware failure of some kind.
Check RAM and hard drive to start I would say.
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:55 pm
by BitJam
It sounds like a hardware issue. When something fails, I'd look at the output of "dmesg" for clues/hints like this:
I would also use the gsmartcontrol program (as root) to check the hard drive for signs of it going bad. If you made a live-usb with live-usb-maker then you could enable persistence and see if you have similar problems. If not then that's a sign there is a problem with the hard drive. There should be a memtest program available on the live-media. You can also use the "checkmd5" option to test the integrity of the live media but my guess is it is a problem with the hard drive.
Since you previous system had weird problems and now a fresh install has weird problems it is very likely a hardware problem.
I see I was ninja'ed by MAYBL8.
I also agree with the suggestion from fehlix that you should post the system information here.
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:03 pm
by Captain Brillo
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System: Host: mxMainBox Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18.1_x64 Continuum Feb 9 2019
base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
Machine: Type: Desktop System: LENOVO product: 3212AU5 v: ThinkCentre M92p serial: <filter>
Mobo: LENOVO model: MAHOBAY serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO v: 9SKT9BAUS
date: 07/17/2018
CPU: Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-3570 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Ivy Bridge
rev: 9 L2 cache: 6144 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 27139
Speed: 2707 MHz min/max: 1600/3800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2791 2: 2689 3: 3120
4: 2738
Graphics: Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Lenovo
driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Desktop v: 4.2 Mesa 18.2.6
direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64
Network: Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k
port: f080 bus ID: 00:19.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: tun0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A
Drives: Local Storage: total: 2.90 TiB used: 191.62 GiB (6.5%)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: 120GB SSD size: 111.79 GiB temp: 40 C
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST1000VN002-2EY102 size: 931.51 GiB temp: 35 C
ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Hitachi model: HUA722020ALA331 size: 1.82 TiB temp: 49 C
ID-4: /dev/sdd type: USB vendor: Generic model: STORAGE size: 59.48 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 73.32 GiB used: 10.30 GiB (14.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 16.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb3
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://mirror.utoronto.ca/mxlinux/antix/stretch/ stretch main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/atom.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packagecloud.io/AtomEditor/atom/any/ any main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mirror.utoronto.ca/mxlinux/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info: Processes: 241 Uptime: 11m Memory: 15.55 GiB used: 2.19 GiB (14.1%) Init: SysVinit
runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.29
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I've used memtest and gsmartcontrols to look at the box; and there appear to be no issues on the rarely-used Windows side. I don't know how to test the hardware more.
I ran dmesg | less > dmesg.txt and attached it, if that helps.
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:31 pm
by fehlix
Captain Brillo wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:03 pm
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1: deb http://ftp.ca.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
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A fresh install - means with a snapshot or a release iso?
Would those behavior also show if not having installed any 3rd party tools installed like indicated through the external repos within the apt-sorces list ( atom / vivaldi ). Any thing else "not" like fresh installed? fstab mount points?
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:37 pm
by Captain Brillo
I installed Vivaldi and Atom right away - I don't know where anything else might have come from.
It's just that compared to my first install on this same box I am not impressed.
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:42 pm
by Adrian
Captain Brillo wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 10:37 pm
It's just that compared to my first install on this same box I am not impressed.
OSes are not like cakes that sometime come out right sometime not, if you use the same ISO to install it you should get the same results, unless there's a hardware problem and your hardware changed. Do a RAM and HDD test to see if any of these components are failing.
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:50 pm
by figueroa
Lock-ups and crashes can often be attributed to failing video cards and power supplies, or weakening or blown capacitors on the motherboard, as well as other components that will give no sign of failure in the logs. MX (all of Linux in fact) isn't like an MS Windows install that just starts to go bad from accumulating cruft.
Re: Complete re-install and nothing but problems
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:27 am
by Artim
The same thing was happening on my Dell before the power supply finally failed completely and the 'puter wouldn't even turn on. Definitely a hardware issue!