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(SOLVED) MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:19 pm
by fanisatt
Something bad is happening here....
CPU "dances" very easily up to 100 % !!!!
Is this a simple and harmless Intel microcode issue ? I hope so....but , if is not so harmless , please give me any help.
Best regards !
My PC : MotherBoard Gigabyte GA-X38-DS5, CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3GHz), RAM 8GB , Graphics Nvidia Geforce 710
OS MX 18 (fresh install)

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:25 pm
by Stevo
Can you give us the result of "Quick System Info" from the menu here, inside code tags? </>

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:28 pm
by fanisatt
@ Stevo
Thanks for your reply

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System:    Host: mx Kernel: 4.19.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: MX-18_x64 Continuum Dec 20  2018 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: X38-DS5 v: N/A serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: X38-DQ6 v: x.x serial: <filter> BIOS: Award v: F4 
           date: 11/06/2007 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn 
           rev: 6 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 11997 
           Speed: 2839 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2839 2: 2794 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nvidia v: 390.87 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: nvidia resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 710/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.87 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:1b.0 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 01:00.1 
           Device-3: VIA VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio driver: N/A 
           bus ID: 06:00.0 
           Device-4: Creative Labs EMU10k1 [Sound Blaster Live! Series] driver: snd_emu10k1 
           v: kernel bus ID: 06:01.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-1-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: c000 bus ID: 05:00.0 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 330.62 GiB (28.4%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 840 EVO 250GB size: 232.88 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD2500AAJS-00B4A0 size: 232.89 GiB 
           ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Western Digital model: WD2500AAKX-60U6AA0 size: 232.89 GiB 
           ID-4: /dev/sdd vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAKS-00UU3A0 size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 76.56 GiB used: 8.82 GiB (11.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 9.49 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 37 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/mx/antix/stretch stretch main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list 
           1: deb http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/mx/mx/repo/ stretch main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 202 Uptime: 2h 25m Memory: 7.79 GiB used: 1.30 GiB (16.7%) Init: SysVinit 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 inxi: 3.0.29 

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:33 pm
by bffarmer
I suggest you run htop in terminal and see what processes/programs are using up the cpu.

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:41 pm
by fanisatt
@ bffarmer
I have already done it.
Generally , the CPU load rises very sharply. I don't remember this behavior in MX 17.

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:07 pm
by oops
fanisatt wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:41 pm @ bffarmer
I have already done it.
Generally , the CPU load rises very sharply. I don't remember this behavior in MX 17.
... And at CPU 100%

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inxi -zt cm15

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:26 pm
by dolphin_oracle
I've heard of a lot of folks with Core 2 Duo processors having some odd issues. Dropping back to the debian 4.9 kernel worked for them.

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:01 pm
by Stevo
dolphin_oracle wrote: Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:26 pm I've heard of a lot of folks with Core 2 Duo processors having some odd issues. Dropping back to the debian 4.9 kernel worked for them.
Yes, it looks like the CPU speed scaling isn't working (see last line):

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CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo E8400 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn 
           rev: 6 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 11997 
           Speed: 2839 MHz min/max: N/A Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2839 2: 2794 
So it's locked at 100% cpu speed, but I don't think 100% usage, which could be confirmed with

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cpufreq-info
If the 4.9 kernel fixes the problem, we'd appreciate some testing of our newer 4.19 kernels to see if that fixes the issue. We also have 4.20 kernels, but our Nvidia driver currently doesn't build with it...though I see the stretch-backports 390.87 Nvidia driver has been patched to do so. I'll port that over right now.

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:56 am
by fanisatt
Thank you for your replies !
I decided to change the kernel and I have already installed the DEBIAN one.
The MX package installer informed me , that the kernel installed successfully.
I did not try to remove the 4.19 yet (i think I have to remove this linux image with synaptic later) because I don't know how to boot using the installed Debian kernel (linux image?).
Trying to boot with this older kernel I saw 2 options at the (advanced) MX bootloader screen , one with systemd and an other one without !!!
Both of them can't boot.
Any help please ?

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:24 am
by baldyeti
fanisatt wrote: Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:56 amBoth of them can't boot.
What error message are you seeing ?

Both should be able to boot, MX defaults to the non-systemd (aka sysV) entry.

Once booted under the debian kernel you can uninstall 4.19 and the grub config file will be re-generated so that the 4.8 default entry appears at the top (provided you have no other, more recent kernel installed)

Re: (Solved) MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:30 am
by fanisatt
@ baldyeti
No error !! It is a blank screen.
I don't know if I have to do something with nvidia drivers I have already installed with 4.19 !

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:39 am
by baldyeti
Ah sorry i do not have a system with an nvidia adapter anymore.

I thought once you have it in place it should automatically install for kernels you add but i am not sure.

You could try (perhaps from a text/console session <Ctrl><Alt><F1>) to rename the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file the nvidia driver uses, then reboot under the new kernel.
If you then get to the graphical desktop you would probably be using the nouveau driver and could decide to re-install the proprietary driver under the debian kernel if you need it.

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:11 am
by dolphin_oracle
installing from MX-PI 's kernel area should have rebuilt the nvidia driver if it was installed with our nvidia-driver tool.

try this:

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dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms
and post the output.

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:28 am
by fanisatt
Thank you all for your replies.
I tried "sudo ddm-mx -p nvidia" and the nvidia drivers uninstalled successfully.
After this , I could boot with the DEBIAN kernel and my system seems ok now.
Best regards.
(Solved)

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:33 am
by richb
Please add {Solved} to the title of your first post

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:52 am
by Stevo
You should also be able to reinstall the Nvidia drivers on the 4.9 kernel, as apparently they were not rebuilt automatically when you reinstalled.

Does the 4.9 kernel enable the CPU speed scaling now?

Re: MX-18 fresh installation - CPU 100% ????

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:00 pm
by fanisatt
@ Stevo
Oh yes !! All done successfully !