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Removal of software

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:29 am
by nomko
Hi all,

I have installed MX Linux on my daughters (8-years old) laptop. But with MX Linux comes a lot of stuff my daughter or me will never use. How safe is it to remove applications? I like to keep the MX tools/utilities software since i find this a neat replenishment to MX Linux. Any applications pre-installed who has some ties/knots/links with the MX tools/utilities?

Thanks!

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:08 am
by Richard
Reasonably safe,
if you do all removals via Synaptic which will maintain a History of additions and removals.
Remove things one at a time.
If a removal candidate wants to remove things that seem useful, then decline the removal and try another.

If something breaks, then you have a history and can then reinstall the required pieces.

That said, unless you are really strapped for disk space, they won't cause a problem,
unless there is some capability that you would rather remove.

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:24 am
by chrispop99
Unless you are really short of disk space, another option is to hide the item in the Whisker menu, so you won't see it.

To do this, use the MX Menu Editor, select an item, then check the 'Hide' box. Click 'Save Changes', and exit. Reverse the process to restore items.

Chris

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:04 pm
by Stevo
Synaptic will also let you know if removing something will also remove other packages. Many programs also depend on many other packages, and removing them makes those autoremovable, since nothing else needs those. Those can be checked and removed in the Status section in Synaptic, or on the command line with apt.

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:59 am
by nomko
To all,

Thanks for your reply!

The reason i want to remove some applications is for the plain reason it will never be used, so why keep it installed? I have removed some applications of which i know it will never be used. Others i just hide it in the menu if that particular application has some "links" to another installed application or if it removes applications/libraries/other system files needed to run Linux/MX Linux.

Disc space is not big issue here:

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 ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK2565GSX size: 232.89 GiB
We don't download stuff using Bittorrent or Usenet, so no need for extra, extra, extra big hard drive.

Linux cluttering? Not really. I clean up Linux using the following terminal commands:
sudo apt autoclean
sudp apt autoremove
sudo apt clean

I have been using Bleachbit in the past and it does perform miracles cleaning up shitty stuff applications won't clean up (even after setting it up to clean up when closing). Oh yes, on my laptop with Mint i am using Deborphan (plus the GTK GUI environment) to clean up left overs (which also increases disc space). But i found that deborphan is NOT for the faint hearted folks (be careful with this tool, the wrong configuration can clean up your whole disc!). But still using it and loving it!

The 3 terminal commands however remains my favourite cleaning options and i run it in a single go:

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sudo apt autoclean -y && sudp apt autoremove -y && sudo apt clean -y
I'm kinda drifting off here i think.... anyway, thanks again for the replies!

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:27 pm
by Stevo
Since "apt clean" cleans out the entire apt cache, it makes "apt autoclean" redundant, since that only removes obsolete packages from the cache.

HTH!

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:10 pm
by Yeri
As a follow up, I would like to remove LibreOffice. I am running MX on liveUSB.

My question: if I remove LibreOffice should I see any improvement in speed?
Or more generally, does removing more packages increase the speed of MX? Is there a correlation?

The USB is 16GB, have 4GB free, and I use persistence_all with a computer that has 8GB Ram.

Also, I assume using Synaptic would be the easiest way? I ran through the caveats here: https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/help-synaptic/

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:56 pm
by anticapitalista
Yeri wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:10 pm As a follow up, I would like to remove LibreOffice. I am running MX on liveUSB.

My question: if I remove LibreOffice should I see any improvement in speed?
Or more generally, does removing more packages increase the speed of MX? Is there a correlation?

The USB is 16GB, have 4GB free, and I use persistence_all with a computer that has 8GB Ram.

Also, I assume using Synaptic would be the easiest way? I ran through the caveats here: https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/help-synaptic/
No speed gain at all.

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:00 pm
by Stevo
But you'll be free of any Libreoffice security updates, which may take a while, depending on your hardware.

Re: Removal of software

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 2:47 pm
by Yeri
Ok, thanks for the replies.

Glad I asked before picking out selected software. Was thinking it would be more efficient like the first poster stated.
The updates are no problem really.