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MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:34 pm
by ptlivestock
Currently am running Mepis 11 64bit on a new (6mths in service) Gigabyte GA-H81M-S2H motherboard with Nvidia GeForce GT 610 card. No problems apparent and no bios setting required when the hd from an older machine was put in. It all cranked up straight away.

I have tinkered with the install of MX15 32bit on an older machine installed it from Live Disk onto a reformated hard drive and had no problems. Everything has worked perfectly.

My next step has been to download the MX15-x64_KDE_added-May_2016 iso and this is successfully burned to a DVD

When booting from the DVD however the loading gets to "...waiting for dev to be fully populated... " and then hangs.

Regards
Peter

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:54 pm
by Jerry3904
Wrong forum, will move.

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:04 pm
by ptlivestock
Apologies

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:26 pm
by Jerry3904
Not a huge problem, but we try to keep KDE MX in its own place since it is not an official release and we don't want people to think that problems with that mean that MX-15 is faulty.

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:58 pm
by Stevo
Do any of the cheatcodes available in the boot menu screen help? See the menu at the bottom.

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:33 pm
by BitJam
Cheat codes will not help. It should continue the boot process if you wait a full minute.

This problem is usually due to a bug in the udev program. If it does complete the boot after you wait a minute then the output of the dmesg program may contain useful clues. The usual fix is to use a different version of udev. Sometimes a different kernel can help. This long delay when udev runs is a well known problem. It is very frustrating. The most charitable thing I can say is that the priorities of the udev/systemd devs are vastly different from my own.

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:33 pm
by ptlivestock
Jerry3904 wrote:Not a huge problem, but we try to keep KDE MX in its own place since it is not an official release and we don't want people to think that problems with that mean that MX-15 is faulty.
I'm quite happy with the 32bit MX15 installation I did on the other machine and had run it for over a month. So when I noted there was a 64bit KDE opted for it as a probable replacement for Mepis 11 as an outright replacement for my Mepis 64bit on my work machine. I didnt realise the KDE may have hiccups but Ill persevere a while on a separate drive and retain my M11 meantime. Perhaps I should be safer with a MX15 64bit without KDE. Ill have to ponder on that a while ;-)

Regards
Peter

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 7:48 pm
by lucky9
It should be noted that udev is not a part of KDE. And that there are several on this forum that use KDE on MX-15 as their primary DE without problems.

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 3:55 pm
by ptlivestock
lucky9 wrote:It should be noted that udev is not a part of KDE. And that there are several on this forum that use KDE on MX-15 as their primary DE without problems.
I do not think I have have the capability to eliminate KDE from the Live disk composition that I downloaded (if that is at all possible) So do I assume that I should download the live disk image for MX15. install it, remove udev, then install KDE

Regards

Re: MX15 KDE Live Disk Hangs

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 4:10 pm
by lucky9
Reread what BitJam posted. I do not think you understood what was being said.

I would first try installing MX-15 as it comes. Add KDE through the MX Package Manager. Then install the debian fall-back kernel. Boot the backup kernel. Then see if things straightened out. If they did then I'd use GRUB Customizer to make the backup kernel the default kernel.