MX Linux Forum

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:40 pm**

I'm trying to work out why some users can boot ok from cd/dvd while others cannot.

For those that cannot, here are some boot cheats that might work

bdev=/dev/sr0 OR
bdev=/dev/dvd OR
bdev=/dev/cdrom

blab=MX-14-live

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:53 pm**

No luck with any of those.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:53 pm**

Thanks for this, anticapitalista; unfortunately they didn't work for me. I raised a post about my problem, but this has been removed (or I can't find where it has gone).

Essentially though, the only time I have had this problem, is with Arch based distros and I have sometimmes had to use

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archisodevice=/dev/sr0

I'll have a look at this again tomorrow, no time tonight.

Many thanks,

Chris.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:03 pm**

IDE vs. SATA?

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:34 pm**

Would introducing a delay help? Something like rootdelay=10 I've never seen this fix the problem, but I've seen people recommending it... so who knows.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:40 pm**

It will search for the bootdevice for 15 secs to begin with, it never finds the drive. I doubt adding 10 secs will help. Worth a shot though. I'll give it a whirl

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:59 pm**

Nope, rootdelay didn't help.

Just to be as detailed as possible, who knows it might help:

Once you hit enter on the bootscreen the counter goes to 100, loading kernel. Then it stays stuck on that 100 for a while, and all that time the light of the drive that the disk is in is on.

As soon as the screen goes black and proceeds to display the booting process the light goes off, and it will stay that way.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:04 pm**

Another cheat

find=all

If that fails, then we need serious debugging.

Add this bp=2 then at the screen type lsmod somehow copy the info.

Also try bp=2 then type find /dev/ -type b | egrep -v "/ram|/loop"

or simpler find /dev/ -type b

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:24 pm**

The find command errored.

Here is the result of the requested commands:

1.jpg

2.jpg

3.jpg

4.jpg

sda is my harddrive that I am typing this from now (sig line system)
sdb is the USB external drive

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:31 pm**

Thanks Eadwine, the device is not being picked up.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:35 pm**

Uhm.. *giggle* I noticed that already

Kidding hehe.

But yeah.. I wonder why not. All those other distros I have tried did..

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:18 pm**

Ok, try this.

You need your original downloaded iso - MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso
You need to be running linux
You need to install xdelta3 if you don't already have it.

1. Download the patch called new_delta from here:

http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Others/

2. Put the delta patch in the same directory as the MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso

3. In that directory, open a terminal and type:

xdelta3 -d -s MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso new_delta please-work.iso

4. Burn please-work.iso to cd/dvd

*Note - you don't have to call the new iso please-work.iso :)

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:56 pm**

Please-work did not.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:00 pm**

Same error?

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:21 pm**

Yes, same error.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:23 pm**

Same problem here tried burning with k3b and gnome burner.Thanks john

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:51 pm**

One last try for tonight.

You need your original downloaded iso - MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso
You need to be running linux
You need to install xdelta3 if you don't already have it.

1. Download the patch called fix_delta from here:

http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Others/

2. Put the delta patch in the same directory as the MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso

3. In that directory, open a terminal and type:

xdelta3 -d -s MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso fix_delta MX.iso

4. Burn MX.iso to cd/dvd

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:37 pm**

I just realized I lost the original ISO and must download it again. Will report back later.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:51 pm**

I don't know if this info will be helpful. My four computers (all notebooks) are very similar to each other. But the CD (burned with Brasero from Wheezy) works on each one, so:

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$ inxi -Fd
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 Distro: MX-14_13.97_386-xfce beta1 22 January 2014
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: Presario CQ56 Notebook PC version: 0595110003202810010020100
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1605 version: 90.16 Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: F.13 date: 11/23/2010
CPU:       Single core Intel Celeron CPU 900 (-UP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) clocked at 2194.644 MHz 
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: k3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 98:4b:e1:b0:79:61
           Card-2: Ralink RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 90:00:4e:2b:7d:4a
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500BEVT size: 250.1GB 
           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: N/A dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
           Features: speed: 24x multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram
Partition: ID: / size: 1.6G used: 2.9M (1%) fs: rootfs ID: swap-1 size: 2.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 104 Uptime: 12 min Memory: 116.6/1955.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.16

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$ inxi -Fd
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 Distro: MX-14_13.97_386-xfce beta1 22 January 2014
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: Presario CQ57 Notebook PC version: 068C110003204910000620100
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3672 version: 23.48 Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: F.33 date: 12/13/2011
CPU:       Dual core Intel Celeron CPU B800 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 810.292 MHz 2: 1280.976 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: a0:b3:cc:c3:31:0b
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 20:10:7a:5d:c6:c9
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST9320325AS size: 320.1GB 
           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: N/A dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
           Features: speed: 24x multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram
Partition: ID: / size: 1.5G used: 2.0M (1%) fs: rootfs ID: swap-1 size: 2.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 117 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 115.9/1859.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.16

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$ inxi -Fd
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 Distro: MX-14_13.97_386-xfce beta1 22 January 2014
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: Presario CQ57 Notebook PC version: 068B120003204910000620100
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3577 version: 24.49 Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: F.47 date: 12/17/2011
CPU:       Dual core AMD E-300 APU with Radeon HD Graphics (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 780.00 MHz 2: 1300.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD PALM GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: a0:b3:cc:c5:21:10
           Card-2: Ralink RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 08:ed:b9:54:b2:93
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD3200BPVT size: 320.1GB 
           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: N/A dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
           Features: speed: 24x multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram
Partition: ID: / size: 1.3G used: 2.0M (1%) fs: rootfs ID: swap-1 size: 2.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 42.5C mobo: N/A gpu: 42.0 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 109 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 123.1/1622.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.16

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$ inxi -Fd
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 Distro: MX-14_13.97_386-xfce beta1 22 January 2014
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP G72 Notebook PC version: 0493110003202710000620000
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1484 version: 77.19 Bios: Hewlett-Packard version: F.17 date: 07/06/2010
CPU:       Dual core Pentium CPU T4500 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1200.00 MHz 2: 1200.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller 
           X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1600x900@60.1hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card: Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: k3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 60:eb:69:33:ec:08
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN Controller driver: rtl8192se 
           IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 1c:65:9d:3b:d5:d9
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD3200BEVT size: 320.1GB 
           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: N/A dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
           Features: speed: 24x multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram
Partition: ID: / size: 2.4G used: 2.0M (1%) fs: rootfs ID: swap-1 size: 3.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 32.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 116 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 117.2/2971.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.16

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:11 pm**

Tried MX.ISO. Sorry, it didn't work.

Posted: **Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:57 pm**

anticapitalista wrote:One last try for tonight.

You need your original downloaded iso - MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso
You need to be running linux
You need to install xdelta3 if you don't already have it.

1. Download the patch called fix_delta from here:

http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Others/

2. Put the delta patch in the same directory as the MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso

3. In that directory, open a terminal and type:

xdelta3 -d -s MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso fix_delta MX.iso

4. Burn MX.iso to cd/dvd

The patch worked for me! Hope this helps.

Here is /var/log/live/bootstrap.log

Run custom code before reading boot parameters: /live/custom/MX-14/0.sh
=== /init bootstrap ==================================================
started at .00 seconds
Run custom code before starting mdev: /live/custom/MX-14/1.sh
Welcome to MX-14-13.97 beta1!
Total Memory: 4049 M
Free Memory: 4032 M
Used Memory: 17 M
Linux kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
arch: i686
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
cores: 4
cache: 512 KB
Current bootcodes:
quiet antiX=MLX
loading modules from /live/custom/MX-14/modules.load
Loading module: isofs
modprobe isofs
Loading module: aufs
modprobe aufs
Loading module: usb-storage
modprobe usb-storage
Loading module: sr_mod
modprobe sr_mod
Loading module: cdrom
modprobe cdrom
Loading module: sd_mod
modprobe sd_mod
Loading module: crc_t10dif
modprobe crc_t10dif
Loading module: ata_piix
modprobe ata_piix
Loading module: libata
modprobe libata
Loading module: scsi_mod
modprobe scsi_mod
Loading module: ahci
modprobe ahci
Loading module: ahci_platform
modprobe ahci_platform
Loading module: ehci-hcd
modprobe ehci-hcd
Loading module: ehci-pci
modprobe ehci-pci
Loading module: ehci-platform
modprobe ehci-platform
Loading module: ohci-hcd
modprobe ohci-hcd
Loading module: ohci-pci
modprobe ohci-pci
Loading module: ohci-platform
modprobe ohci-platform
Loading module: uhci-hcd
modprobe uhci-hcd
Loading module: fuse
modprobe fuse
Loading module: wusbcore
modprobe wusbcore
Loading module: usbcore
modprobe usbcore
Loading module: usb-common
modprobe usb-common
Loading module: usb_common
modprobe usb_common
Loading module: xhci-hcd
modprobe xhci-hcd
Loading module: pata_atiixp
modprobe pata_atiixp
Loading module: sg
modprobe sg
Scanning usb,cd devices for antiX/linuxfs
Retrying for 15 seconds ...
Filtered devices: /dev/sr1 /dev/sr0
Mounted /dev/sr1 at /live/boot-dev
Elaspsed time finding files: 1.71 seconds
loop times: .01 .01 .01
loaded 28 modules: nls_utf8 sg pata_atiixp xhci_hcd wusbcore uwb fuse uhci_hcd ohci_pci ohci_hcd ehci_pci ehci_hcd ahci libahci ata_piix libata sd_mod crct10dif_generic crc_t10dif crct10dif_common sr_mod cdrom usb_storage usbcore usb_common scsi_mod aufs isofs
Mounting linuxfs file: /live/boot-dev/antiX/linuxfs at /live/linux
mount -t squashfs -o loop,ro /live/boot-dev/antiX/linuxfs /live/linux
symlink: /bin /lib /sbin /usr
sqfs_vid: ==== 9f9d72bac30aff6f5e7c7208ba9dca5e463b40a515b6e012fcbc1b53a44a3337
Creating aufs ram tmpfs at: /live/aufs-ram (size=3225 MB)
/live/bin/mount -t tmpfs -o size=3225m tmpfs /live/aufs-ram
Mounting aufs at /live/aufs
/bin/mount -t aufs -o br:/live/aufs-ram:/live/linux=ro /live/aufs /live/aufs
symlink: /bin /boot /etc /lib /root /run /sbin /tmp /usr /var
Run custom code after mounting homefs: /live/custom/MX-14/8.sh
Creating /media tmpfs at: /live/aufs/media (size=1 MB)
/live/bin/mount -t tmpfs -o size=1m tmpfs /live/aufs/media
Creating /live tmpfs at: /live/aufs/live (size=10 MB)
/live/bin/mount -t tmpfs -o size=10m tmpfs /live/aufs/live

The /init bootstrap took 7.38 seconds.
======================================================================

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:35 am**

The one last try for tonight version is working here as well! Typing from it now

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demo@mx1:~
$ inxi -F
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.10.2 Distro: MX-14_13.97_386-xfce beta1 22 January 2014
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M4A785TD-V EVO version: Rev X.0x Bios: American Megatrends version: 2005 date: 04/15/2010
CPU:       Quad core AMD Athlon II X4 635 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 800.00 MHz 2: 800.00 MHz 3: 800.00 MHz 4: 800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA Device 1282 X.Org: 1.12.4 drivers: vesa,nouveau (unloaded: fbdev) Resolution: 1024x768@61.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209) GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.5
Audio:     Card-1: NVIDIA Device 0e0f driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: k3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Card-3: Logitech QuickCam E 3500 driver: USB Audio 
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 48:5b:39:f4:93:4e
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (-) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD5000AAKS size: 500.1GB 
           2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: HDP725050GLA360 size: 500.1GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 6.4G used: 8.6M (1%) fs: rootfs ID: swap-1 size: 2.10GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 30.0C mobo: 32.0C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 2220 psu: 0 sys-1: 785 
Info:      Processes: 142 Uptime: 4 min Memory: 245.1/8115.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.16 
demo@mx1:~

and /var/log/live/bootstrap.log

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Run custom code before reading boot parameters: /live/custom/MX-14/0.sh
=== /init bootstrap ==================================================
started at .01 seconds
Run custom code before starting mdev: /live/custom/MX-14/1.sh
Welcome to MX-14-13.97 beta1!
             Total Memory:  8115 M
              Free Memory:  8098 M
              Used Memory:    17 M
             Linux kernel: 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae
                     arch: i686
                      CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 635 Processor
                    cores: 4
                    cache: 512 KB
Current bootcodes:
     quiet antiX=MLX
loading modules from /live/custom/MX-14/modules.load
Loading module: isofs
modprobe isofs
Loading module: aufs
modprobe aufs
Loading module: usb-storage
modprobe usb-storage
Loading module: sr_mod
modprobe sr_mod
Loading module: cdrom
modprobe cdrom
Loading module: sd_mod
modprobe sd_mod
Loading module: crc_t10dif
modprobe crc_t10dif
Loading module: ata_piix
modprobe ata_piix
Loading module: libata
modprobe libata
Loading module: scsi_mod
modprobe scsi_mod
Loading module: ahci
modprobe ahci
Loading module: ahci_platform
modprobe ahci_platform
Loading module: ehci-hcd
modprobe ehci-hcd
Loading module: ehci-pci
modprobe ehci-pci
Loading module: ehci-platform
modprobe ehci-platform
Loading module: ohci-hcd
modprobe ohci-hcd
Loading module: ohci-pci
modprobe ohci-pci
Loading module: ohci-platform
modprobe ohci-platform
Loading module: uhci-hcd
modprobe uhci-hcd
Loading module: fuse
modprobe fuse
Loading module: wusbcore
modprobe wusbcore
Loading module: usbcore
modprobe usbcore
Loading module: usb-common
modprobe usb-common
Loading module: usb_common
modprobe usb_common
Loading module: xhci-hcd
modprobe xhci-hcd
Loading module: pata_atiixp
modprobe pata_atiixp
Loading module: sg
modprobe sg
Scanning usb,cd devices for antiX/linuxfs
Filtered devices:  /dev/sr1 /dev/sr0
Mounted /dev/sr0 at /live/boot-dev
Elaspsed time finding files: .24 seconds
loaded 28 modules: nls_utf8 sg pata_atiixp xhci_hcd wusbcore uwb fuse uhci_hcd ohci_pci ohci_hcd ehci_pci ehci_hcd ahci libahci ata_piix libata sd_mod crct10dif_generic crc_t10dif crct10dif_common sr_mod cdrom usb_storage usbcore usb_common scsi_mod aufs isofs
Mounting linuxfs file: /live/boot-dev/antiX/linuxfs at /live/linux
mount -t squashfs -o loop,ro /live/boot-dev/antiX/linuxfs /live/linux
symlink: /bin /lib /sbin /usr 
sqfs_vid: ==== 9f9d72bac30aff6f5e7c7208ba9dca5e463b40a515b6e012fcbc1b53a44a3337
Creating aufs ram tmpfs at: /live/aufs-ram (size=6478 MB)
/live/bin/mount -t tmpfs -o size=6478m tmpfs /live/aufs-ram
Mounting aufs at /live/aufs
/bin/mount -t aufs -o br:/live/aufs-ram:/live/linux=ro /live/aufs /live/aufs
symlink: /bin /boot /etc /lib /root /run /sbin /tmp /usr /var 
Run custom code after mounting homefs: /live/custom/MX-14/8.sh
Creating /media tmpfs at: /live/aufs/media (size=1 MB)
/live/bin/mount -t tmpfs -o size=1m tmpfs /live/aufs/media
Creating /live tmpfs at: /live/aufs/live (size=10 MB)
/live/bin/mount -t tmpfs -o size=10m tmpfs /live/aufs/live

The /init bootstrap took 6.24 seconds.
======================================================================

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:24 am**

Awesome work, anti!

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:33 am**

Hi, all.

I couldn't get the xdelta utility to work using the syntax that was published. Is it possible to get access to the nightly buillds, which incorporate this fix?

Thanks,

Chris.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:35 am**

There aren't any nightly builds.

Do you have xdelta3 installed?
What was the error message?

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:43 am**

nightly builld

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:40 am**

chris_debian wrote:Hi, all.

I couldn't get the xdelta utility to work using the syntax that was published. Is it possible to get access to the nightly buillds, which incorporate this fix?

Thanks,

Chris.

Did you get the first ISO from the torrent? It has a different name you might need to rename it before applying the patch.

Jerry, we need to make sure we use the ISO name consistently...

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:46 am**

Jerry, we need to make sure we use the ISO name consistently...

Yeah. There was a mixup between anti and me about naming that certainly won't happen again.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:11 am**

Adrian wrote:
chris_debian wrote:Hi, all.

I couldn't get the xdelta utility to work using the syntax that was published. Is it possible to get access to the nightly buillds, which incorporate this fix?

Thanks,

Chris.
Did you get the first ISO from the torrent? It has a different name you might need to rename it before applying the patch.

Jerry, we need to make sure we use the ISO name consistently...

Hi, guys. I used xdelta from my distro repository, not xdelta3 which is also available. Just installing the correct xdelta now and making a new ISO. I'll report back.

Cheers,

Chris.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:22 am**

I'm not sure if you can use xdelta on it instead of xdelta3.

As Adrian noted, the name of iso file you would have gotten from the torrent is "MX-14_13.97.iso".

If that's what you have, you need to rename it to "MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso", because the patch is for a iso file with that name.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:27 am**

kmathern wrote:I'm not sure if you can use xdelta on it instead of xdelta3.

As Adrian noted, the name of iso file you would have gotten from the torrent is "MX-14_13.97.iso".

If that's what you have, you need to rename it to "MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso", because the patch is for a iso file with that name.

I missed the comment about renaming the file, so I created a new image, and it didn't work. I've now renamed the torrent ISO and am doing the xdelta3, again. Will report progress (or not).

I noticed that the file sizes from the AntiX and Mepis download sites appeared to be different, strange.

Chris.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:34 am**

Same problem, sadly. :-(

...15 second timeout.

I'll have a think about some other possibilities.

Chris.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:41 am**

chris_debian wrote:Same problem, sadly. :-(

...15 second timeout.

I'll have a think about some other possibilities.

Chris.

I see that anti has uploaded another patch to: http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Others/, "fix2_delta".
He hasn't said anything about it (yet).
I assume you apply it similar to the others.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:02 am**

kmathern wrote:
chris_debian wrote:Same problem, sadly. :-(

...15 second timeout.

I'll have a think about some other possibilities.

Chris.
I see that anti has uploaded another patch to: http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Others/, "fix2_delta".
He hasn't said anything about it (yet).
I assume you apply it similar to the others.

The correct fix2-delta has just been uploaded along with its md5 to check. This adds a couple more modules to the initrd.gz.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:11 am**

'fix2-delta' fails. I'll try to think of another way, but I may come back when the installer can boot. If this is a big issue, should the ISO regress to '-alpha'? Could a different installer be used, as the antiX and Mepis ones seem to work, like other distros.

This looks like a great project, so i'll keep an eye on it and try the next published ISO.

Chris.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:26 am**

Downloaded the iso from Anti's download site, using the apple machine.
Using Deb 7, and Kb3, erased the the alpha, burned the beta 1 onto the cd/rw. No problems.
Beta 1 cd r/w boots from the Apple(SATA), installs to usb external(IDE) HD, boots and runs good.

Seeing the booting problems, drop in the cd to the main machine. It is setup with IDE HD and DVD-R
and it does start booting and stops with the following:

Welcome to MX-14-13.97 beta1!
Current bootloader codes:
quiet antiX=MLX
loading modules from /live/custom/MX-14/module
Scanning usb,cd devices for antiX/linuxfs
Retrying for 15 seconds ...
Filtered devices: /dev/sda

.............................
================================================================================
Fatal Error
Could not find linuxfs file: "antiX/linuxfs".
Searched devices : /dev/sda
All block devices : /dev/sda
Searched types : usb ,cd

Please contact Bitjam at http://anitx.freeforums.org
================================================================================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
p = power off
r = reboot
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Select p or r then hit <enter>

No, have not tried the cheats yet. It does look like a IDE/SATA thing to me.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:46 am**

@zeeone, is that with the original "MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso", or did you apply anticapitalista's latest xdelta patch, fix2_delta?

If you used the original iso, I would apply the fix2_delta patch, burn a new cd, and try again.

Here's the instructions on how to apply the fix2_delta patch (they're anti's instructions from this post here: http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 52#p327752 with "fix_delta" occurrences changed to "fix2_delta")

You need your original downloaded iso - MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso
You need to be running linux
You need to install xdelta3 if you don't already have it.

1. Download the patch called fix2_delta from here:

http://www.mepisimo.com/antix/Others/

2. Put the delta patch in the same directory as the MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso

3. In that directory, open a terminal and type:

xdelta3 -d -s MX-14_13.97_386-xfce.iso fix2_delta MX.iso

4. Burn MX.iso to cd/dvd

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:07 pm**

With the latest patched delta iso (as posted above), try this.

1. At boot grub, type bp=2
2. Press Enter/Return
3. At the prompt, type load-live-modules
4. Type exit

(It *might* work with the original downloaded iso before patching)

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:04 pm**

anticapitalista wrote:With the latest patched delta iso (as posted above), try this.

1. At boot grub, type bp=2
2. Press Enter/Return
3. At the prompt, type load-live-modules
4. Type exit

(It *might* work with the original downloaded iso before patching)

This worked for me, I think the CD I had was the delta2 version, but I've done this so many times, i'm no longer sure!

The X session struggled to configure, so I tried again with the cli-installer. The system is currently installing, so at least we managed to get past the boot problem. I have no idea why X isn't working, that's a first. One step at a time...

Cheers,

Chris.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:14 pm**

### Off topic

System installed and I rebooted as directed. Got to the 'Boot from CD' prompt and it just waits and waits.......no GRUB errors reported during the installation.

Trying install again. If I have any more problems unrelated to this topic, I will post elsewhere.

Chris.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:45 pm**

@chris_debian,

Even though there is a cli install option, I would have tried to figure out why X wasn't starting in a Live Session, before installing MX14 to harddrive.

There might be some video related cheats you can add to the boot command (or maybe they're available from the F5 key?) Anti or some other antiX regular can give more details on that.

What is your video hardware?

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:47 pm**

Chris, best to start another thread, thanks.

Ok, another attempt. This is a bit neater.

At boot menu, type load=pata-via or load=all

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:48 pm**

kmathern wrote:@chris_debian,

Even though there is a cli install option, I would have tried to figure out why X wasn't starting in a Live Session, before installing MX14 to harddrive.

There might be some video related cheats you can add to the boot command (or maybe they're available from the F5 key?) Anti or some other antiX regular can give more details on that.

What is your video hardware?

Hi, myapologies, I didn't see your message, and posted the issue here:

http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 91&t=35428

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:52 pm**

chris_debian wrote:Hi, myapologies, I didn't see your message, and posted the issue here:

http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 91&t=35428

Lets continue the discussion there then (and not further clutter up this thread).

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:32 pm**

1. At boot grub, type bp=2
2. Press Enter/Return
3. At the prompt, type load-live-modules
4. Type exit
This worked running live cd Thank you anti for this work around.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:35 pm**

Hey golden45, could you also try typing only

load=pata-via

at the boot menu screen. It would really help to see if this was the missing module.

(edit - this and golden45's post should really be in the boot thread. Mod, please move)

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:14 pm**

I don't know if this info helps, but on an old HP d325 dinosaur, live cd said:
Error 0400 reading sector 354572
And wouldn't boot.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:15 pm**

Apologies if this is wrong thread.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:40 pm**

anticapitalista wrote:Ok, another attempt. This is a bit neater.

At boot menu, type load=pata-via or load=all

TaDa!

load=pata-via worked for me with the fix2_delta.

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:12 pm**

anticapitalista wrote:I'm trying to work out why some users can boot ok from cd/dvd while others cannot.

For those that cannot, here are some boot cheats that might work

bdev=/dev/sr0 OR
bdev=/dev/dvd OR
bdev=/dev/cdrom

blab=MX-14-live

Compaq Presario SR1215CL Desktop PC Will boot and Install AntiX 13.2, but will not boot MX-14.13.97 using any of these boot cheats.
specifications: http://tinyurl.com/lzy3qy6

I changed out the HP CD for a Lite-on DVD C LH52C1P
specifications: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6827106058

Typing this cheat code: load=pata-via <--Booted this older system with the Torrent downloaded CD burned with K3B on a cheap generic CD from the99 cent Store.

I have one more older system to try tomorrow, but believe this solves my booting problems.

JR

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:19 pm**

@namida12, did you try the fix2_delta patch http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 13#p327813 ?

Posted: **Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:20 pm**

kmathern wrote:@namida12, did you try the fix2_delta patch http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 13#p327813 ?

Typing this cheat code: load=pata-via <--Booted this older system with the Torrent downloaded CD burned with K3B on a cheap generic CD from the99 cent Store.

I wish I could install this, but will stay with Antix that she has used a bit, as i must give a friend a dual boot safe non-winXP option for her banking, facebook gaming and web exploration...

JR

Posted: **Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:24 am**

Thanks anti,

it really is not trivial ...

While placed with dd on the stick ISO is not a problem,
brings the MX.iso with all Fix (delta) and Tricks (Grub2) from Multi-USB_Stick on the same computer the same error.

My problem is really not important ...
You need time for the beta.

Edit: PN is rejected as spam.

Posted: **Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:29 pm**

Using beta 2 mx14 no problems booting and installing to hard drive.thanks anti john

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