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Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:59 pm
by dolphin_oracle
dreamer wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:56 pm
I wonder about the sysvinit/LightDM restart/shut down bug.
Is it related to:
Debian/systemd?
systemd-shim?
LightDM?
Maybe antiX or Devuan can fix this if no systemd is present? I think reviewers might mention this and it should probably be mentioned in release notes as a known bug. It stays a couple of seconds on my machine.
If it can't be fixed it can't be fixed, but I hope it can be fixed in nosystemd distros.
its nothing new...same happens mx18.
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:25 pm
by mklym
On my CF-U1 running off the live MX-19b3_386.
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System: Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.19.0-6-686-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
parameters: persist_static quiet splasht
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
Distro: MX-19beta-3_386 patito feo October 3 2019 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine: Type: Portable System: Matsushita product: CF-U1AQC5G2M v: 001 serial: <filter>
Chassis: type: 8 v: 001 serial: <filter>
Mobo: Matsushita model: CFU1-1 v: 1 serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends
v: 1.00L33 date: 06/15/2009
Battery: ID-1: BAT1 charge: 16.5 Wh condition: 16.5/20.9 Wh (79%) volts: 8.1/7.2
model: Panasonic CF-VZSU53 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown
ID-2: BAT2 charge: 20.9 Wh condition: 20.9/20.9 Wh (100%) volts: 8.2/7.2
model: Panasonic CF-VZSU53 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown
CPU: Topology: Single Core model: Intel Atom Z520 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Bonnell
family: 6 model-id: 1C (28) stepping: 2 microcode: 217 L2 cache: 512 KiB
flags: nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 5319
Speed: 798 MHz min/max: 800/1333 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798
Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected
Type: spectre_v1 status: Not affected
Type: spectre_v2 status: Not affected
Graphics: Device-1: Intel System Hub Graphics vendor: Matsushita US15W/US15X driver: gma500
v: N/A bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:8108
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
resolution: 1024x600~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 compat-v: 3.1
direct render: Yes
Audio: Device-1: Intel System Hub HD Audio vendor: Matsushita US15W/US15X/US15L/UL11L
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:811b
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.0-6-686-pae
Network: Device-1: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: f060
bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 8086:422b
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives: Local Storage: total: 58.46 GiB used: 6.89 GiB (11.8%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: MCCOE32GZMPP size: 29.82 GiB block size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> serial: <filter> rev: 01 scheme: MBR
ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra size: 28.64 GiB block size:
physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 7.81 GiB used: 566.4 MiB (7.1%) fs: overlay
source: ERR-102
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info: Processes: 179 Uptime: 58m Memory: 927.8 MiB used: 361.7 MiB (39.0%) Init: SysVinit
v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36
No sound issues. Select sound card, apply and click the 'Test sound card' button.
Have not had a chance to do much testing on the U1. Will do more tm.
All in all, MX-19b3 works well on all the different units I have, other than my X301 ThinkPad. I have not tested it yet as it is busy atm.
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:32 pm
by Jerry3904
Running the 32bit Live on the Thinkpad T60 (which I love). Get a very weird color problem in the panel that no one has reported yet, image attached.
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$ inxi -G
Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400] driver: radeon v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 1400x1050~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: ATI RV515 v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6
Am about to install, will edit this once I see it.
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:40 pm
by mklym
Jerry3904 wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:32 pm
Running the 32bit Live on the Thinkpad T60 (which I love). Get a very weird color problem in the panel that no one has reported yet, image attached.
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$ inxi -G
Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400] driver: radeon v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 1400x1050~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: ATI RV515 v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6
Am about to install, will edit this once I see it.
I described that issue in post #62. Looks identical to what I see. Thanks for verifying that it is an issue in MX-19b3 and not my units.
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:50 pm
by Jerry3904
Gone on installed instance, looks normal. Here is installed situation.
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$ inxi -G
Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400] driver: radeon v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
resolution: 1400x1050~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: ATI RV515 v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:42 pm
by dreamer
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:59 pm
dreamer wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:56 pm
I wonder about the sysvinit/LightDM restart/shut down bug.
Is it related to:
Debian/systemd?
systemd-shim?
LightDM?
Maybe antiX or Devuan can fix this if no systemd is present? I think reviewers might mention this and it should probably be mentioned in release notes as a known bug. It stays a couple of seconds on my machine.
If it can't be fixed it can't be fixed, but I hope it can be fixed in nosystemd distros.
its nothing new...same happens mx18.
Did you identify the update that caused it? My installs have been based on MX 17 so I have never seen it until I installed MX 19. This can be bad news for antiX and Devuan too. I uninstalled Plymouth in MX 19 but it didn't help.
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:02 pm
by dolphin_oracle
dreamer wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:42 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:59 pm
dreamer wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:56 pm
I wonder about the sysvinit/LightDM restart/shut down bug.
Is it related to:
Debian/systemd?
systemd-shim?
LightDM?
Maybe antiX or Devuan can fix this if no systemd is present? I think reviewers might mention this and it should probably be mentioned in release notes as a known bug. It stays a couple of seconds on my machine.
If it can't be fixed it can't be fixed, but I hope it can be fixed in nosystemd distros.
its nothing new...same happens mx18.
Did you identify the update that caused it? My installs have been based on MX 17 so I have never seen it until I installed MX 19. This can be bad news for antiX and Devuan too. I uninstalled Plymouth in MX 19 but it didn't help.
probably consolekit, which is no longer installable at the same time as systemd and/or policykit. but that's a guess.
antix doesn't use lightdm.
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 11:54 pm
by malspa
I looked at MX-19 beta 3 in live sessions from a flash drive, on two different computers. Didn't do much tweaking; mostly just exploring. No problems to report. Looks like this is gonna be another nice MX release!
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:12 am
by mmikeinsantarosa
The new icons in MX tools look great; nice and sharp and really sweet color combinations.
Re: MX-19 Beta 3 Feedback
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 2:35 am
by Eadwine Rose
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:02 pm
dreamer wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:42 pm
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:59 pm
its nothing new...same happens mx18.
Did you identify the update that caused it? My installs have been based on MX 17 so I have never seen it until I installed MX 19. This can be bad news for antiX and Devuan too. I uninstalled Plymouth in MX 19 but it didn't help.
probably consolekit, which is no longer installable at the same time as systemd and/or policykit. but that's a guess.
antix doesn't use lightdm.
Is this the reappearance of the login screen before system shutdown/reboot?
If so, it doesn't happen to me in 18.3, fully updated install.
If you mean the very brief appearance of a grey screen, yeah that does happen, but it's very short (much shorter than that login screen), like half a second or so.