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Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:11 am
by fehlix
richb wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:53 am
Not sure what this means so do not blindly change. In Google Chrome, "chrome://flags/", invoked by typing in address bar, There is this entry:
Migrate passwords to "Login Data"
Performs a one-off irreversible migration of passwords from the gnome-keyring or kwallet into the profile directory. – Linux
The options are default, enable, disable with default as installed choice.
good found.
It means for any saved password within Chrome to transfer those credentials into the "old" "plaintext-alike" password-store format within the profile folder of chrome/ium. Highly not recommended as plaintext-alike insecure migration.
Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:18 am
by j2mcgreg
In the next iteration of MX 18, could ecryptfs-utils be linked to the initial log on? That way the password(s) would still be encrypted be default but the users would not be hassled by a secondary prompt.
Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:20 am
by dphn
Haven't seen it yet. In MX 17 I've missed thunar-media-tags-plugin. Is this included in MX 18?
Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:41 am
by richb
fehlix wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 11:11 am
richb wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:53 am
Not sure what this means so do not blindly change. In Google Chrome, "chrome://flags/", invoked by typing in address bar, There is this entry:
Migrate passwords to "Login Data"
Performs a one-off irreversible migration of passwords from the gnome-keyring or kwallet into the profile directory. – Linux
The options are default, enable, disable with default as installed choice.
good found.
It means for any saved password within Chrome to transfer those credentials into the "old" "plaintext-alike" password-store format within the profile folder of chrome/ium. Highly not recommended as plaintext-alike insecure migration.
Thanks for the explanation. Upon reading it again with your clarification, it made perfect sense to me. And I agree, I would not recommend it as it would forego the extra security.
By the way, there are many tweaks in about:config. For example I used one to increase the size of the extension icon display. But use with caution as they could really muck up the browser.
Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:26 pm
by arjaybe
asqwerth wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:44 am
Regarding the installer's new interface for the root/home/swap/boot partition settings,
I suggest that the "none" option in the swap dropdown menu be changed to "none or use existing".
As I recall, this was the original description in the previous interface, so that users understood that they could choose this "none" option if they already had a swap partition created and formatted on the system, perhaps by another distro.
Otherwise, a user who is not so familiar might either backtrack to Gparted to create a completely new swap partition or they might click on an existing swap partition thinking to reuse it.
But doing the latter step will reformat the swap partition, changing its UUID. If the other distro is a systemd distro, this will cause that distro to go into a 90 sec check mode because it can't find the swap partition under the old UUID.
Since I always select an existing swap partition when installing an OS, I guess I've just been lucky that I don't use systemd. Is it necessary to format it?
Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 12:39 pm
by dolphin_oracle
asqwerth wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:44 am
Regarding the installer's new interface for the root/home/swap/boot partition settings,
I suggest that the "none" option in the swap dropdown menu be changed to "none or use existing".
As I recall, this was the original description in the previous interface, so that users understood that they could choose this "none" option if they already had a swap partition created and formatted on the system, perhaps by another distro.
Otherwise, a user who is not so familiar might either backtrack to Gparted to create a completely new swap partition or they might click on an existing swap partition thinking to reuse it.
But doing the latter step will reformat the swap partition, changing its UUID. If the other distro is a systemd distro, this will cause that distro to go into a 90 sec check mode because it can't find the swap partition under the old UUID.
actually, this is a delibrate change. "none" means none.
if you choose a partition that is already formatted swap, it will not be reformated unless you are also using encryption.
Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:12 pm
by skidoo
Eadwine Rose wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:53 am
skidoo wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:03 am
Tonight I cannot remember howto view/edit the Xfce global keybinds.
No luck from searching whiskerMenu: "keyb", "shortc", "hotk"... and didn't find it in "MX Tools" nor "Xfce Settings"
Do you mean.. open the menu, in the search field on top enter keyboard, click that, then go to the tab application shortcuts?
global, as in, Alt+F1 launches MX User Manual viewer, Alt+F4 kills the application in the currently focused window (?), Alt+F6 does "something" (i don't know what -- accessibility related? Causes cursor to change to a "hand")...
I jogged my memory by performing a websearch, but the stumble led me to mention it as a usability issue.
A novice may not not easily find -----v

Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:28 pm
by Jerry3904
No fair using websearches!
;-)
Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:39 pm
by fehlix
skidoo wrote: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:03 am
Tonight I cannot remember howto view/edit the Xfce global keybinds.
What? You can't remember this?
Code: Select all
xfconf-query -c xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts -l -v
Code: Select all
xfconf-query -c xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts -l -v
/commands/custom/<Alt>F1 mx-manual
/commands/custom/<Alt>F2 xfce4-appfinder --collapsed
/commands/custom/<Alt>F3 xfce4-appfinder
/commands/custom/Menu xfce4-popup-whiskermenu
/commands/custom/override true
/commands/custom/<Primary><Alt>Delete xflock4
/commands/custom/<Primary><Alt>Escape xkill
/commands/custom/<Primary>Escape xfdesktop --menu
/commands/custom/Print xfce4-screenshooter
/commands/custom/<Shift>F4 xfce4-terminal --hide-menubar --hide-borders --drop-down
/commands/custom/<Shift>Scroll_Lock sh -c 'xfdesktop --reload; xfce4-panel --restart'
/commands/custom/<Super>p xfce4-display-settings --minimal
/commands/custom/XF86Display xfce4-display-settings --minimal
/commands/custom/XF86Mail exo-open --launch MailReader
/commands/custom/XF86WWW exo-open --launch WebBrowser
/commands/default/<Alt>F1 xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu
/commands/default/<Alt>F2 xfce4-appfinder --collapsed
/commands/default/<Alt>F2/startup-notify true
/commands/default/<Alt>F3 xfce4-appfinder
/commands/default/<Alt>F3/startup-notify true
/commands/default/<Primary><Alt>Delete xflock4
/commands/default/<Primary><Alt>l xflock4
/commands/default/<Primary>Escape xfdesktop --menu
/commands/default/<Super>p xfce4-display-settings --minimal
/commands/default/XF86Display xfce4-display-settings --minimal
/commands/default/XF86Mail exo-open --launch MailReader
/commands/default/XF86WWW exo-open --launch WebBrowser
/providers <<UNSUPPORTED>>
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>End move_window_next_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>Home move_window_prev_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_1 move_window_workspace_1_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_2 move_window_workspace_2_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_3 move_window_workspace_3_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_4 move_window_workspace_4_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_5 move_window_workspace_5_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_6 move_window_workspace_6_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_7 move_window_workspace_7_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_8 move_window_workspace_8_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Control>KP_9 move_window_workspace_9_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>Delete del_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F10 maximize_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F11 fullscreen_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F12 above_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F4 close_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F6 stick_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F7 move_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F8 resize_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>F9 hide_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>Insert add_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt><Shift>Tab cycle_reverse_windows_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>space popup_menu_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Alt>Tab cycle_windows_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>d show_desktop_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>Down down_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>Left left_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>Right right_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Alt>Up up_workspace_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F1 workspace_1_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F10 workspace_10_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F11 workspace_11_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F12 workspace_12_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F2 workspace_2_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F3 workspace_3_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F4 workspace_4_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F5 workspace_5_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F6 workspace_6_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F7 workspace_7_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F8 workspace_8_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control>F9 workspace_9_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Shift><Alt>Left move_window_left_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Shift><Alt>Right move_window_right_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Control><Shift><Alt>Up move_window_up_key
/xfwm4/custom/Down down_key
/xfwm4/custom/Escape cancel_key
/xfwm4/custom/Left left_key
/xfwm4/custom/override true
/xfwm4/custom/Right right_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Shift><Alt>Page_Down lower_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Shift><Alt>Page_Up raise_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/<Super>Tab switch_window_key
/xfwm4/custom/Up up_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>Delete del_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F10 maximize_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F11 fullscreen_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F12 above_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F4 close_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F6 stick_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F7 move_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F8 resize_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>F9 hide_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>Insert add_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt><Shift>Tab cycle_reverse_windows_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>space popup_menu_key
/xfwm4/default/<Alt>Tab cycle_windows_key
/xfwm4/default/Down down_key
/xfwm4/default/Escape cancel_key
/xfwm4/default/Left left_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>d show_desktop_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Down down_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>End move_window_next_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Home move_window_prev_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_1 move_window_workspace_1_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_2 move_window_workspace_2_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_3 move_window_workspace_3_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_4 move_window_workspace_4_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_5 move_window_workspace_5_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_6 move_window_workspace_6_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_7 move_window_workspace_7_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_8 move_window_workspace_8_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>KP_9 move_window_workspace_9_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Left left_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Right right_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Alt>Up up_workspace_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F1 workspace_1_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F10 workspace_10_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F11 workspace_11_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F12 workspace_12_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F2 workspace_2_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F3 workspace_3_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F4 workspace_4_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F5 workspace_5_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F6 workspace_6_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F7 workspace_7_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F8 workspace_8_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary>F9 workspace_9_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Shift><Alt>Left move_window_left_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Shift><Alt>Right move_window_right_key
/xfwm4/default/<Primary><Shift><Alt>Up move_window_up_key
/xfwm4/default/Right right_key
/xfwm4/default/<Shift><Alt>Page_Down lower_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Shift><Alt>Page_Up raise_window_key
/xfwm4/default/<Super>Tab switch_window_key
/xfwm4/default/Up up_key

Re: MX-18 RC1 Feedback
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 1:55 pm
by Jerry3904
That is why we have an Xfce section in the Wiki, where the xfconf-query commands are listed:
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/xfce/xfce-comm ... 20settings