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Posted: **Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:39 am**

I still miss simple features, like right-clicking on Kmenu items and editing them, not possible in KDE4 (that's what I call "gnomification" of KDE, removing features)

I still don't use KDE4 features, it looks like the guys worked a lot on plasmoids, except for the default ones (kicker replacement) I don't use plasmoids, also I don't use "activities".

But yes, I like how KDE4 looks, I cringe at the idea of still using KDE3.5.

Posted: **Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:26 pm**

Adrian wrote:I still miss simple features, like right-clicking on Kmenu items and editing them, not possible in KDE4 (that's what I call "gnomification" of KDE, removing features)

Could you be more specific? I mean.. I can go into the kmenu and can edit away when I left click an item.

Posted: **Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:56 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote:Could you be more specific? I mean.. I can go into the kmenu and can edit away when I left click an item.

I'm not sure I understand, when I left click it launches that item, when I right click I get "Add to favorites", "add to Desktop", "add to panel", in KDE3 there's an properties or edit menu item where you can edit the item, in KDE4 you need to go through "Menu Editor". Again, not a big deal, I can go through Menu Editor path, but I found the KDE3.5 more logical and userfriendly, just right-clicking on a item it allowed you to edit it.

Posted: **Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:12 pm**

mepnoob2005 wrote:I wrote my first post in this thread in july...back then I gave it a thumbs up ....
it's now october and I have decided that kde4 is slower than kde3, unstable compared to kde3, digikam and dolphin are both superslow at downloading pictures from my camera ( and I mean glacially slow, the batteries will dies before you get a dozen pictures downloaded. Like 3-5 minutes per picture maybe more) I would like to change my vote to NO as I like kde3 a lot better....
so thumbs down on kde4 in a lot of areas, speed and stability mostly....boot time is slower...but on the other hand I want to keep kde4 even tho it is the slower and less reliable of the two versions only because I think maybe one day it will be as good as kde3. It (kde4) is definately nowhere near as good as kde3....just saying what a lot of us must be thinking to kde4

my latest computer....
msi KA790GX board, athlon 7750 x2 64 bit cpu, 4 gb ddr3 1066 ram, ati onboard hdmi graphics with sgfxi installed driver, in a coolermaster case, 42 inch lcd hd tv for monitor....it rocks! great with kde3 but barely acceptable with kde4 and it won't download my pics properly....

I do not have these issues. But I do not download pictures from a camera. Boot is just as fast or faster, and reliability is on a par with 3.5.

No contest for me that KDE 4.5 is the better choice than KDE 3.5. Notice I did not say better, but the better choice for me.

Posted: **Sun Oct 17, 2010 5:23 pm**

Kerry

I just posted in reply to the other thread on digikam, and I'll reiterate here. It seems you are the only one experiencing the issues you raised. KDE4 is not perfect, but I'd rate it on par, if not better now, than KDE3.

I download photos direct by USB cable from the camera (Kodak) using digikam, and we get none of your slowdown.

As far as speed goes - I see no difference on my set-up.

And my netbook currently runs 4.5 (pure sid) and is very snappy.

Are you sure your issues are not hardware related?

Posted: **Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:53 pm**

I don't use DigiCam to download photographs either. There have been reported problems with DigiCam. And I have none with Dolphin.

@Adrian: It does take an extra click or two to edit a menu item in KDE 4.x. If I needed to, I'd right-click Start and choose Edit Menu. I agree that the old way was very convenient. I have hopes that this will just be a little later coming.

Posted: **Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:02 am**

Adrian wrote:I'm not sure I understand, when I left click it launches that item, when I right click I get "Add to favorites", "add to Desktop", "add to panel", in KDE3 there's an properties or edit menu item where you can edit the item, in KDE4 you need to go through "Menu Editor". Again, not a big deal, I can go through Menu Editor path, but I found the KDE3.5 more logical and userfriendly, just right-clicking on a item it allowed you to edit it.

I meant indeed through the menu editor yes.

I didn't even know you could edit any other way

Posted: **Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:29 pm**

I was completely against kde4.x and hated dolphin compared to konqueror but time and improvements proved my resistance was futile, I am now fully assimilated and very optimistic about it's future development. Jerry

Posted: **Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:45 pm**

JBoman wrote:I was completely against kde4.x and hated dolphin compared to konqueror but time and improvements proved my resistance was futile, I am now fully assimilated and very optimistic about it's future development. Jerry

I'll second that.

Posted: **Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:47 pm**

Eadwine Rose wrote:I know it is easily switched off and I found how to after a lot of irritation. Fact is: I hate having to pick and pry to make things run faster. I have the new to linux user in mind, who wants a system that runs, not one that crawls on a still decent machine in my eyes

+1@ Eadwine. My system is slower too. My biggest gripe has been the lack of documentation. I really love you guys that help me out, but with KDE3 I could find a lot of things in the wiki or help files. Most of what I find now is still KDE 3 oriented, so all this mega configurable stuff is lost on someone like me. It's just not so intuitive any more-
Still in all, it is better than the KDE4 in other Linux OS's I have tried like Kubuntu.

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