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I testing variation of boot animation.
Called ImagineBoot. 219KB GIF (30 frame per 1second, using 8 colors)

ars electronica like, Media Art line.

-> Final Candidate
MX ImagineBoot (ver3)

I like it!!!

That's very impressive.

Chris

This comment was related to the original version.

Thanks everyone but Nope, Nope, This is NOT FINAL version,
This is only first impression. So Final is more different and greater ever(in my head).

I changed my schedule, I make version final candidate tonight. (but I'm not hurry)

Freja wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:14 am Thanks everyone but Nope, Nope, This is NOT FINAL version,
This is only first impression. So Final is more different and greater ever(in my head).

I changed my schedule, I make version final candidate tonight. (but I'm not hurry)

VERY sharp Freja! Love it!

dreamer wrote: Fri Aug 23, 2024 9:57 am I think this is a very nice improvement over the current Plymouth theme. More refined and subtle.

I appreciate the current one as well and the technical hurdles that had to be overcome to create it.

My biggest ”complaint” regarding the current MX Plymouth theme is that I think it is too big. I think a logo should be a subtle and small ”mark of quality”. If it takes up a large portion of the screen it’s too much in my opinion.

I hope this new version can find its way into MX Linux, at least as an alternative Plymouth theme. And if there will be a small version (think Apple or Microsoft), it would be even better.

Ok, enough said. Well done!

You're right, I think same.

KDE like design?

Keep in mind that that can trigger an episode in people sensitive to flashing. We don't want to risk that.

Sorry, i didn’t think about it. I hide current animation and remake.

That’s popular problem in video art world…

I want to express an “twinkle star” motion,
Why? T.H.E. MX Logo expressing sky and mountains, and dawn. Moon. Sun. Sky. Sunshine. Mountains. So I want to add “star” in new boot animation.

My today’s my usual work end soon, I’ll add “One Shooting Star(or Comet) to animation.

Too flashy caused by toggle key frame, omit that and edit to more mild taste.

MX ImagineBoot (ver3)



More hypoallergenic latest version.
MX starts when shooting star runs on the pyramids and glittering stars in the sky.

If this version well accepted, we make actual Plymouth theme.
@CharlesV Brother! Our collaboration again.

Awakening (Photograph took by Freja, at about 2014)

That is a lot better, thanks. :)

Should NEVER be set as the default though, because of what I stated earlier. Some are very sensitive, after all.

Eadwine Rose wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:47 am That is a lot better, thanks. :)

Should NEVER be set as the default though, because of what I stated earlier. Some are very sensitive, after all.

Thanks, ImagineBoot is Variation(is little peaky taste). For default boot theme MXLive is better.

PS. My local friend comments to ImagineBoot. "This is like a hp's machine boot screen something".
About Default MXLive theme friend says "ah, Intel Inside".
But I think That's correct.

Freja wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:41 am MX ImagineBoot (ver3)

If this version well accepted, we make actual Plymouth theme.
@CharlesV Brother! Our collaboration again.

Good morning Freja and looking forward to it. A question on the image though.. There are 'artifacts' all around the logo when its creating, I assume this is what your after ?

I thought the first one, with those flashing 'artifacts' was way cooler. ( just my preference ) . I do like it the smaller size.

@CharlesV artifact was reduced transparency by Eadwine’s pointing out. Ver2 was 100% transparency, Ver3 is 55%. artifacts(stars)
is necessary but not main element, I think Ver3 is correct answer.

I agree with your favorite Ver2, but "Flashy Risk" is better to avoid as much as possible.

I made Ver3 for actual Plymouth theme.
So 5 min after, I’ll attach .zip file for create Plymouth theme for you.

Freja wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 9:44 am @CharlesV artifact was reduced transparency by Eadwine’s pointing out. Ver2 was 100% transparency, Ver3 is 55%. artifacts(stars)
is necessary but not main element, I think Ver3 is correct answer.

I made Ver3 for actual Plymouth theme.
So 5 min after, I’ll attach .zip file for create Plymouth theme for you.

Sounds good. I will be traveling so it will be either late sunday or late monday before I can really look at it, but send it when your ready.

For CharlesV .tar.xz (.png sequence, 200 pieces)https://www.mediafire.com/file/yon3u6yg ... ar.xz/file

MX ImagineBoot runs on Actual machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF3Sn1xz4NQ

Freja created original animation movie, and today,
@CharlesV created actual program code of "Product Quality version" of "MXImagine".
@dolphin_oracle @asqwerth @richb ...

MXImagine_240927aa.tar.gz
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code ... spl5iR6puk

CharlesV tested on:
- Virtual Box (2)
- Fast Machines (2)
- Slow Machines (2)
- Old machines, with very low res (2)

I tested it on my modern machine, It looks very lightweight and stable.

We submit this MXImagine for the our MX-25 and later!
(This plymouth theme for "Default" or "New Option"? That will decide by Primary Dev team member.)

Installation and use of this theme appears to be responsible for breaking my system's ability to switch TTY and to get a graphical login screen on logout. Removing the theme and rebuilding the initramfs has not restored function.

I've done this three times now, so I'm relatively certain something is wrong with the theme.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:09 pm Installation and use of this theme appears to be responsible for breaking my system's ability to switch TTY and to get a graphical login screen on logout. Removing the theme and rebuilding the initramfs has not restored function.

hmm... k I shall see what I can find.

Thank you!

CharlesV wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:12 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:09 pm Installation and use of this theme appears to be responsible for breaking my system's ability to switch TTY and to get a graphical login screen on logout. Removing the theme and rebuilding the initramfs has not restored function.

hmm... k I shall see what I can find.

Thank you!

I've detailed out my experiences in the new mesa packages thread.

viewtopic.php?t=78141

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:37 pm

CharlesV wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:12 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:09 pm Installation and use of this theme appears to be responsible for breaking my system's ability to switch TTY and to get a graphical login screen on logout. Removing the theme and rebuilding the initramfs has not restored function.

hmm... k I shall see what I can find.

Thank you!

I've detailed out my experiences in the new mesa packages thread.

viewtopic.php?t=78141

I havent found anything like what your describing in any of my testing, or poking at it last night. I did find that there was some strange 'second screens' that popped up in Virtualbox when in KDE and also some weird non centering after the latest mesa update (I think it was the mesa update, might have been the plymouth init script update .. unsure and will test it more thoroughly today.)

And I was able to get two 'hangs' at startup using KDE ( both in VB ), so I something is definitely off there and I will find and fit it.

CharlesV wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:41 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:37 pm

CharlesV wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:12 pm

hmm... k I shall see what I can find.

Thank you!

I've detailed out my experiences in the new mesa packages thread.

viewtopic.php?t=78141

I havent found anything like what your describing in any of my testing, or poking at it last night. I did find that there was some strange 'second screens' that popped up in Virtualbox when in KDE and also some weird non centering after the latest mesa update (I think it was the mesa update, might have been the plymouth init script update .. unsure and will test it more thoroughly today.)

And I was able to get two 'hangs' at startup using KDE ( both in VB ), so I something is definitely off there and I will find and fit it.

thanks for looking into it. I really like the new theme, so I hope something can be figured out. I do have the ahs-staging update of mesa installed (24.X) so maybe that's a factor, but somehow I don't think so.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:53 pm
thanks for looking into it. I really like the new theme, so I hope something can be figured out. I do have the ahs-staging update of mesa installed (24.X) so maybe that's a factor, but somehow I don't think so.

I found the issue. Working it out now and will retest thoroughly before sending an update.

CharlesV wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:28 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:53 pm
thanks for looking into it. I really like the new theme, so I hope something can be figured out. I do have the ahs-staging update of mesa installed (24.X) so maybe that's a factor, but somehow I don't think so.

I found the issue. Working it out now and will retest thoroughly before sending an update.

oh nice. what was it?

I'm super thankful on how you've dove into plymouth theme configuration. thank you!

dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:29 pm

CharlesV wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:28 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:53 pm
thanks for looking into it. I really like the new theme, so I hope something can be figured out. I do have the ahs-staging update of mesa installed (24.X) so maybe that's a factor, but somehow I don't think so.

I found the issue. Working it out now and will retest thoroughly before sending an update.

oh nice. what was it?

Two things actually.
1) There is a Maximum Call Back value that I was using incorrectly.
2) Because the Max CallBack was not being implemented properly, I had a call to an array member that was going out of bounds :-(

I should have had a better check on the second one... but the first one 'caused' it . HA !

SO, I have a stable and fast moving MXImagine working on xfce without issue. ( Still need more testing, but working on five machines .)

AND on a KDE MX23 ( MX-23_KDE_x64 Libretto July 31 2023 base )

However, the minute I load the 410+ updates.. I get an unstable system ** regardless ** of what splash I use. ( Even spinner! ) If I dont run a splash then it all works fine. ( This is on two of four test KDE systems - the other two run just fine. )

I have backed up, and installed just the mesa and plymouth init update and also works without an issue... so now I am applying the Plasma updates and a few other apps and will keep testing.

Something in the updated files is causing issues with any splash on my test system. And, I am now seeing the blinking cursor at the left top when it goes south on me. ( been seeing this in the forum recently, so something recent is cause on *some* machines)

I used an 8.8mb file called DarkAngles-BootMenus.run in mx21.3 to change the boot ani and it looks a lot similar to the 'MXLiveLogo' theme in the current mx23.4 setup I run now. What would be cool is a different 'coming-out-of-hibernation' animation. It's just a small circle in the center with no variation. Maybe the boot ani in reverse?

Really thanks to CharlesV's effort, If without CharlesV this plymouth theme not deliver to MXer.

My satisfied points in this MXImagine theme:
1. Smaller logo that @dreamer says

I think a logo should be a subtle and small ”mark of quality”. If it takes up a large portion of the screen it’s too much in my opinion.

I agree.

2. Natural shooting star moving
I saw real shooting star in my hometown few years ago, that's very tiny light, vanish in about 2seconds.
THE MX logo and MXLive boot animation expressing "hope from the dark" It is same concept,
hope is fleeting things, that's same as shooting star. People lost to see that little lights and forget that easily.

3. Media-Art like motion design
I'm originally near to the person of media-art field. I was want to make more media-art's motion design more than MXLive.

PS.
MX-21 Honesty, MX-23 THE Darkmetal. these are "dark" taste, I little have regret these dark(depression) taste.
This MXImagine (for MX-25 and later) is different, This expressing the lightness of fleetng hope.
I want to deliver modest light of hope to the MX users.

@CharlesV I'm hard to say because this proposal needs more work.
Shutdown animation is too long I think.
Many user needs speedy shutdown, In past case MXLive, I reduce pictures to half.

At this time, 2x speed reverse animation probably can realize at this method...

On file manger "reduce pictures to half" and at coding, shutdown total processing time set to half.

CharlesV wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:14 am SO, I have a stable and fast moving MXImagine working on xfce without issue. ( Still need more testing, but working on five machines .)

AND on a KDE MX23 ( MX-23_KDE_x64 Libretto July 31 2023 base )

However, the minute I load the 410+ updates.. I get an unstable system ** regardless ** of what splash I use. ( Even spinner! ) If I dont run a splash then it all works fine. ( This is on two of four test KDE systems - the other two run just fine. )

I have backed up, and installed just the mesa and plymouth init update and also works without an issue... so now I am applying the Plasma updates and a few other apps and will keep testing.

Something in the updated files is causing issues with any splash on my test system. And, I am now seeing the blinking cursor at the left top when it goes south on me. ( been seeing this in the forum recently, so something recent is cause on *some* machines)

did that include the ahs-staging mesa updates, or just the standard repos (ahs, but not ahs-staging for KDE).

maybe I should try just changing the splash, without MXImagine, for another set of data points.

Freja wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:19 am @CharlesV I'm hard to say because this proposal needs more work.
Shutdown animation is too long I think.
Many user needs speedy shutdown, In past case MXLive, I reduce pictures to half.

At this time, 2x speed reverse animation probably can realize at this method...

On file manger "reduce pictures to half" and at coding, shutdown total processing time set to half.

I am working at speeding it up.. I found an issue on the version you have.. the latest is WAY speedier :-)

dolphin_oracle wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:47 am
did that include the ahs-staging mesa updates, or just the standard repos (ahs, but not ahs-staging for KDE).

maybe I should try just changing the splash, without MXImagine, for another set of data points.

Strictly the standard repos.

In the latest liqourix, 6.10.12-1, I noticed the 'coming-out-of-hibernation' animation has been completely removed which btw seems to make it boot faster, as least perceptually. I'm good with that.

davidy wrote: Fri Oct 04, 2024 6:14 pm In the latest liqourix, 6.10.12-1, I noticed the 'coming-out-of-hibernation' animation has been completely removed which btw seems to make it boot faster, as least perceptually. I'm good with that.

Well... supposedly... plymouth (the animation at startup and shutdown), is supposed to get out of the way as soon as the OS signals and at no time should the OS wait for it.

However, my understanding of that hand off is ... depending upon what DE your running it could wait for plymouth to exit before doing anything.

I have been working on both the new MXImagine and the current MX Live Logo to make sure they get the heck out of the way as soon as possible. (Still a couple of issues on the MXImagine released a few days ago though.. working that now.)

I changed the MXLiveLogo animation to the percentage one and suddenly had problems rebooting and it not wanting to either show me a display, or, throw an error message (I did not record) and not want to boot. Back on 6.10.11-2 and suddenly realized I had zero battery, and, after booting my mouse was working upside down lol. Back to the LiveLogo and the white circle of unhibernator mode. Thanks for all the hard work you guys put in. This OS with the latest clonezilla iso is da bomb.
I must say the most interesting thing was restoring my hibernated image, booting to it obviously -unbooting?, and then seeing a previous backup image folder that I knew I deleted. No wonder my mouse flipped it's lid. Even though I deleted it I was able to copy it to my exfat portable nvme and use it to go back to 6.10.11-2 which apparently is slightly better at booting than 6.10.12-1. Don't mean to sidetrack the animation thread.

The following updates to the MXLiveLogo and MXImagine boot animations are here and if you wish to see them in advance of the coming update, you can download from here. These versions have been modified as follows:

MXImagine_241003ae.zip
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code ... MauQ7YRWEy

- MXImagine
__ Fixed a logic error in image display which may have contributed to issues at plymouth shutdown
__ Optimized image display
__ Removed dead code


MXLiveLogo_241003aa.zip
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code ... IlfBi7wa3y
- MXLiveLogo
__ Fixed a logic error in image display which may have contributed to issues at plymouth shutdown

updates coming soon.

early debs here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1k3DLh1 ... drive_link

Introducing another variation of MX boot animation ... MX Into Focus
( Not sure why the smaller gif here is low quality, click on it to see the higher quality and what the actual animation looks like )

Half way through this gif, the startup turns to the shutdown animation.



You can download the boot animation and put into place from here:
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code ... TrGjIYYH8k

Thanks Charles. I reinstalled kernel 6.10.12-1 but edited boot to nosplash for the 1st time ever as I was getting the cursor only a couple days ago. Is it just me or does it seem like booting is a tad quicker without the splash? I actually never knew you could, or should, shut it off. "In Focus" is kinda nice . What about different colors, or is that simply more time consuming?

davidy wrote: Mon Oct 07, 2024 2:35 pm Thanks Charles. I reinstalled kernel 6.10.12-1 but edited boot to nosplash for the 1st time ever as I was getting the cursor only a couple days ago. Is it just me or does it seem like booting is a tad quicker without the splash? I actually never knew you could, or should, shut it off. "In Focus" is kinda nice . What about different colors, or is that simply more time consuming?

Your welcome. So, yes... there will be a small speed penalty for any splash, if nothing else then loading images and display as that takes cpu cycles. Even with parallel processes.. your going to slow down the load a little. Plymouth IS supposed to get out of the way when the kernel has completed its load, but even that will be a little penalty.

Colors! YES.. I had started originally wanting to 'fade in colors' but it got to be a 'which color next'... so I bailed and opted for this with the final on a 3-d logo.

I have four more logos on the burner, one of which is a blue flame thing.. but work is getting in the way.. so it will be a while before I can revisit a new creation.

Thank you sir, and of course freja and anyone who helps develop this OS. Love this OS so much I kinda miss my splash now. Can't wait for a colored version too so I can turn it back on.

By the way, I'm not planning MXLive and MXImagine colored version, these are planned as monochrome animation.
If want to colored boot animation, I plan color animation by totally new animation.
I think can not get fine result otherwise thinking color in Imagination process).

In fact, "MXPainting"(Blackboard color and green and blue, Creative one) and "MXShower"(Melber's MXBlue with White, Sentimental one) color animation image
already in my head, but I have Production Costs problem now,
Can't output now, actually production may few month later. (Jan or Feb 2025 I can show prototype probably, these are great in my head!)

Plymouth used color animation have some difficulty than monochrome version.
If animation image have color-gradation, it going not smooth gradation.
Reduce using color to about 2~5 colors, It needs none-gradation image at thinking.

Big-Hint at Thinking new color boot Animation's: MXLive and MXImagine both starts from "Perfect circle".
In other words, Your thinking animation finally reach to perfect circle, MXLive can starts from that perfect circle. (Dont' set movie length too long, keep short) and white-painted-true-circle (or cut-out your image by true-circle) recommended. and, "cut-out painting MXLive" is so good!
(Of course MX forum member everyone CAN create and show animation. MXLive's animation png-image can modify and use for your new animation.)

Good thoughts. My personal preference is monochrome because it is highly effective without becoming annoying over time. Personal!

Looks beautiful.Why gray?

MXCreative


Art painting splash!

960px version Download
https://www.flickr.com/photos/154078448 ... ateposted/

Freja wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 8:45 am MXCreative

Art painting splash!

Super cool!!

Thanks AVLinux, I minded keep it simple expression.

MXCreative for /usr/share/plymouth/themes
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1ggsxhh2 ... ar.gz/file

I tried to run this theme actual machine, (is modify ver of MXLiveboot) but this folder was not works...
This folder contains few mistake, please help me, @CharlesV...

OK, I successfully made working plymouth MXCreative theme folder. (Boot and Shutdown)
@CharlesV please test it, if you want to some improve, that's welcome.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/6og2kxzn ... ar.gz/file

How is this? @dolphin_oracle @asqwerth

Freja wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:28 am OK, I successfully made working plymouth MXCreative theme folder. (Boot and Shutdown)
@CharlesV please test it, if you want to some improve, that's welcome.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/6og2kxzn ... ar.gz/file

How is this? @dolphin_oracle @asqwerth

It works for me. The blue squiggle is cool. Nicely done, Freja.

Somehow I still prefer the current splash theme, but that's my own personal preference.

Thanks, (I'm relieved to hear that) My intention is not replace default, it's make attractive variations.

MXCreative and MXImagine's goal is attractive variations.
Not suitable for all user, because peaky taste both. but there is user like these splash theme.
I want to provide edge theme for specific user likes. not only default for all users.

Freja wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:33 am Thanks, (I'm relieved to hear that) My intention is not replace default, it's make attractive variations.

MXCreative and MXImagine's goal is attractive variations.
Not suitable for all user, because peaky taste both. but there is user like these splash theme.
I want to provide edge theme for specific user likes. not only default for all users.

Actually I haven't been following this thread at all and overlooked MXImagine. I just tested the preview and I like it a lot, about the same as the current one.

MXImagine is my current favorite.

Could someone please remind me of where to place the downloaded folder so I can see it?

@Jerry3904 Please put it here.

Thanks

Freja wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2025 3:28 am OK, I successfully made working plymouth MXCreative theme folder. (Boot and Shutdown)
@CharlesV please test it, if you want to some improve, that's welcome.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/6og2kxzn ... ar.gz/file

How is this? @dolphin_oracle @asqwerth

Sounds like you got it all working, but I shall certainly have a look.

Looks pretty nice!

My own personal preference will be to remain with what we have currently, but both are really fine and will give our users good choices.

Carefully border line image bug fixed, and shutdown reverse sequence bug fixed
Looks FINAL version I submit here.

MXCreative(OK6).tar.gz
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bkb9i876 ... ar.gz/file

Freja wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2025 3:09 am Carefully border line image bug fixed, and shutdown reverse sequence bug fixed
Looks FINAL version I submit here.

MXCreative(OK6).tar.gz
https://www.mediafire.com/file/bkb9i876 ... ar.gz/file

Finally getting back to this... looking great on my test machines! Excellent job Freja!

elegant-linen-neo
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3tsluw5t ... ar.gz/file

New none-animation plymouth theme (animation only progress bar, elegant-linen modify.)

none-animated and new MX logo plymouth theme is not still exist, this is the first case.