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Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:03 am
by mikejade
so decided to challenge myself and tinker around with my machine as i believe learning the hardway is the easyway for me...did a clean install of mxlinux19 then added the KDE DE. and later try and remove the default xfce. and i must admit am rather surprised that everything seems to be working super fine ...greatful to the MXTEAM as alway MX leads the rest follows.....screenshots links below
https://i.imgur.com/hXzNtmN.png

https://i.imgur.com/p5siRkK.png

https://i.imgur.com/yxdScu2.png

https://i.imgur.com/Aq9Bl96.png

INSTALLATION:

open DOLPHIN file manager and click on the desktop folder when running the live usb, you will find the installer icon, or

open konsole and run "sudo minstall'

Passwords:
Root:root
Demo:demo
passwords are the same as the official version

MXJADE_KDE_RESPIN_19.2 WITH LOCALIZATION PACKAGES:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qCXE4 ... EtST47vjPq

MXJADE_KDE_RESPIN _19.2_en-us(american english only) version minimal and slightly tweaked iso:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cTVw2 ... mZfRU07_fz

MXJADE_KDE_RESPIN_19.2_X64_AHS

https://drive.google.com/open?id=17J-e3 ... EdnaabdroI

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:25 am
by Jerry3904
Welcome to the Forum--and nicely done!

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:36 am
by mikejade
Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:25 am Welcome to the Forum--and nicely done!
Thanks lots

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:32 pm
by Stevo
Yes, you did a very nice job! Enough eye-candy to give my eyes diabetes!

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:00 pm
by Pete_J
Looks great !!! do you have a link to download it? would like to give it a go

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:32 am
by mikejade
Pete_J wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:00 pm Looks great !!! do you have a link to download it? would like to give it a go
Thanks pal..so am still doing some little polish up adding the missing essential packages then i can make a snapshot and upload it hopefully it works also for you.so probably bfre end of week will be done will share a link for you to get it

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:33 am
by mikejade
Stevo wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:32 pm Yes, you did a very nice job! Enough eye-candy to give my eyes diabetes!
ahaha thanks for the compliment..i guess i added.too much sauce ...

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:35 am
by dolphin_oracle
very nice!

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:59 pm
by Pete_J
mikejade wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:32 am
Pete_J wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:00 pm Looks great !!! do you have a link to download it? would like to give it a go
Thanks pal..so am still doing some little polish up adding the missing essential packages then i can make a snapshot and upload it hopefully it works also for you.so probably bfre end of week will be done will share a link for you to get it
Great, look forward to it :happy:

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:56 am
by mikejade
Pete_J wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:59 pm
mikejade wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:32 am
Pete_J wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:00 pm Looks great !!! do you have a link to download it? would like to give it a go
Thanks pal..so am still doing some little polish up adding the missing essential packages then i can make a snapshot and upload it hopefully it works also for you.so probably bfre end of week will be done will share a link for you to get it
Great, look forward to it :happy:
here you go....give it a spin and see if it works for you:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cTVw2 ... mZfRU07_fz

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:45 am
by richb
I took it for a spin as a live USB. Very nice and well done. Everything I tried works. The only thing I had to do for my hdpi screen is increase the font size and force a higher dpi. But that needs to be done for the default XFCE as well.
:rock:

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:33 am
by Eadwine Rose
What happens if you install it, given grub?

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:13 pm
by Pete_J
mikejade wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:56 am
Pete_J wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:59 pm
mikejade wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:32 am

Thanks pal..so am still doing some little polish up adding the missing essential packages then i can make a snapshot and upload it hopefully it works also for you.so probably bfre end of week will be done will share a link for you to get it
Great, look forward to it :happy:
here you go....give it a spin and see if it works for you:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cTVw2 ... mZfRU07_fz
Here I am writing from the live USB mikejade MX version :rock: Thanks !! its all working really well for me, all fonts settings are fine. I will back up my previous MX and will definitely install this on my PC.
Great work :happy: :celebrate:

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:38 am
by mikejade
Pete_J wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:13 pm
mikejade wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:56 am
Pete_J wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:59 pm

Great, look forward to it :happy:
here you go....give it a spin and see if it works for you:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cTVw2 ... mZfRU07_fz
Here I am writing from the live USB mikejade MX version :rock: Thanks !! its all working really well for me, all fonts settings are fine. I will back up my previous MX and will definitely install this on my PC.
Great work :happy: :celebrate:
aaah very nice then glad to hear it worked fine....

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:40 am
by mikejade
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:33 am What happens if you install it, given grub?
everything works fine been running it on my machine for almst a week...or what you mean with grub

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:43 am
by mikejade
richb wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:45 am I took it for a spin as a live USB. Very nice and well done. Everything I tried works. The only thing I had to do for my hdpi screen is increase the font size and force a higher dpi. But that needs to be done for the default XFCE as well.
:rock:
awsme and thanks for giving it a try

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:45 am
by richb
mikejade wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:40 am
Eadwine Rose wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:33 am What happens if you install it, given grub?
everything works fine been running it on my machine for almst a week...or what you mean with grub
She means will it show properly in the boot menu. I installed grub to the PBR so my default would still control booting. and then did an update-grub in my default MX 19 install and it picked up the KDE install.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:57 am
by Eadwine Rose
I wager I need more knowledge of grub here to know what to pick haha. I was taught to select ESP (it should be auto ticked on my system).

Needs more investigating in any case on my part that has nothing to do with this respin. Congrats on making it!

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:19 am
by mikejade
Eadwine Rose wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:57 am I wager I need more knowledge of grub here to know what to pick haha. I was taught to select ESP (it should be auto ticked on my system).

Needs more investigating in any case on my part that has nothing to do with this respin. Congrats on making it!
oooh i get you now....you just need to install same way as the official version since the partitioning is same regardless of the DE depending on whether you decide on MBR or GPT Partition.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:25 am
by Eadwine Rose
Yeah.. it IS mx after all. Not a different OS, a different DE :)

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:09 am
by richb
Maybe a screen shot.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:33 pm
by richb
Two issues.

1. Dolphin root actions menu needs Kate or kwrite installed to be able to edit as text in root. Kate is a recommends,
2. The MX Snapshot configuration file has two compression definition lines that conflict and therefore Snapshot will error. Removal of the first line :

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compression = xz will correct the problem.
mksq_opt=-comp lz4 defines the default compression

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[General]
compression=xz
edit_boot_menu=no
force_installer=true
gui_editor=/usr/bin/featherpad
make_isohybrid=yes
make_md5sum=yes
mksq_opt=-comp lz4
snapshot_basename=snapshot
snapshot_dir=/home/snapshot
snapshot_excludes=/usr/local/share/excludes/mx-snapshot-exclude.list
stamp=datetime

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:05 pm
by Stevo
If the window theme's widget elements (buttons, etc), are still too small for your liking on Plasma, you can go into the Display Settings/Scaling and scale them up in fractional increments (1.1, 1.2, 1.3, etc) It's more advanced than what XFCE has at the moment.

If you also want to play around with more style themes, install the qt-style-kvantum package, set the Plasma style and colors to use Kvantum, and mess around with those in the Kvantum Manager.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:24 pm
by richb
@Stevo. Both Kvantum and scaling very nice features.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:44 am
by mikejade
richb wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2019 1:33 pm Two issues.

1. Dolphin root actions menu needs Kate or kwrite installed to be able to edit as text in root. Kate is a recommends,
2. The MX Snapshot configuration file has two compression definition lines that conflict and therefore Snapshot will error. Removal of the first line :

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compression = xz will correct the problem.
mksq_opt=-comp lz4 defines the default compression

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[General]
compression=xz
edit_boot_menu=no
force_installer=true
gui_editor=/usr/bin/featherpad
make_isohybrid=yes
make_md5sum=yes
mksq_opt=-comp lz4
snapshot_basename=snapshot
snapshot_dir=/home/snapshot
snapshot_excludes=/usr/local/share/excludes/mx-snapshot-exclude.list
stamp=datetime
ooh that some good correction to take note of....thanks

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:31 pm
by danielson
Newbie to noobie kde respin - how to install?

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:49 pm
by seaken64
For those who want to install this to HD as a mult-boot:

When the installer gets to the point of asking if you want to install Grub you can either uncheck it (for "No - do not install grub") or choose to install grub to the "Root" of your install, the PBR. Do not use MBR or ESP.

After the install you won't be able to boot the new install from your existing boot menu. Start your current MX install as usual. Then open MX Tools and start up Boot Repair. Reconfigure your existing grub.cfg file choosing your existing partition - the same partition you already had you MX installed on, not the newly installed version. The boot repair routine will re-write your config file and add your newly installed version (KDE spin or whatever) to your grub menu. Now you can reboot and choose the new spin off your grub menu.

If this is too confusing (and it can get confusing at the point where you choose which partition to write the grub.cfg file to) you should probably use a LiveUSB or a Virtual Machine to check out the new spin.

Seaken64

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:26 pm
by rasat
mikejade wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:56 am here you go....give it a spin and see if it works for you:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cTVw2 ... mZfRU07_fz
Adding this spin to MX Desktop List. Is it 32 or 64-bit?
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=48617

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:22 pm
by mikejade
rasat wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:26 pm
mikejade wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:56 am here you go....give it a spin and see if it works for you:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cTVw2 ... mZfRU07_fz
Adding this spin to MX Desktop List. Is it 32 or 64-bit?
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=48617
it's a 64bit will be updating it to fix the few corrections highlighted from this thread....

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:59 am
by grelos
I am trying to install the latest snapshot in a Virtualbox VM, however there is no installation icon on desktop.

When going to terminal and launching:

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sudo -E /usr/sbin/minstall
I get this:

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sudo: sorry, you are not allowed to preserve the environment
What should I do to install it? Thanks.

UPDATE: a simple

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sudo minstall
did it.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:01 pm
by mikejade
grelos wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:59 am I am trying to install the latest snapshot in a Virtualbox VM, however there is no installation icon on desktop.

When going to terminal and launching:

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sudo -E /usr/sbin/minstall
I get this:

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sudo: sorry, you are not allowed to preserve the environment
What should I do to install it? Thanks.

UPDATE: a simple

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sudo minstall
did it.
Glad you were able to find solution...{installer icon can be found by clicking on desktop folder in dolphin file manager when running the live cd}

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:47 pm
by suavedandy
I have a problem with changing Plasma's language. Only American English is available. I tried to install one of those kde-l10n packages but it didn't work. Please, help.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:05 pm
by Stevo
Please go into detail on how you're changing the language from American English to whatever you're aiming for.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:20 am
by Utopia
You must click on the "add language" button at the bottom right of the language settings page. And move the added language to the top position to make it default.
Henry

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:14 am
by suavedandy
Utopia wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:20 am You must click on the "add language" button at the bottom right of the language settings page. And move the added language to the top position to make it default.
Henry
The problem is that there are no languages aside from American English.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:07 pm
by Utopia
The problem is that there are no languages aside from American English
After installing the correct language pack, I could select my language (Swedish) with the "add language" button. And delete the American English alternative.
Did this only a few days ago on the 19.1 AHS version.
Henry

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:30 am
by mikejade
suavedandy wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:14 am
Utopia wrote: Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:20 am You must click on the "add language" button at the bottom right of the language settings page. And move the added language to the top position to make it default.
Henry
The problem is that there are no languages aside from American English.
Unfortunately to make the iso smaller i had to delete the other languages using "localepurge" and manually removed the contents in /usr/share/locale thats why you cant seem to add other languages ....try adding back the localization package for your country using the twoletter (of your country) example for swedish language would be
"sudo apt-get install kde-l10n-sv"
to generate and set the new locale to system default run as root this command

dpkg-reconfigure locales

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:37 am
by suavedandy
mikejade wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:30 am Unfortunately to make the iso smaller i had to delete the other languages using "localepurge" and manually removed the contents in /usr/share/locale thats why you cant seem to add other languages ....try adding back the localization package for your country using the twoletter (of your country) example for swedish language would be
"sudo apt-get install kde-l10n-sv"
to generate and set the new locale to system default run as root this command

dpkg-reconfigure locales
I installed kde-l10n-ru, ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales," clicked "next" two times, rebooted and it doesn't work. I checked that the selected default locale was correct. What am I doing wrong?

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:24 pm
by mikejade
suavedandy wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:37 am
mikejade wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:30 am Unfortunately to make the iso smaller i had to delete the other languages using "localepurge" and manually removed the contents in /usr/share/locale thats why you cant seem to add other languages ....try adding back the localization package for your country using the twoletter (of your country) example for swedish language would be
"sudo apt-get install kde-l10n-sv"
to generate and set the new locale to system default run as root this command

dpkg-reconfigure locales
I installed kde-l10n-ru, ran "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales," clicked "next" two times, rebooted and it doesn't work. I checked that the selected default locale was correct. What am I doing wrong?
Assuming you setting the russian language
open root terminal and type
# export LANG=ru_RU.utf-8
confirm whether default locale settings /etc/defaul/locale contains this line

LANG="ru_RU.utf-8"

ADDITIONALLY you might need to add these line to ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile files, in your home folder to change permanently the locale of the current user to:ru_RU.utf-8

export LANG=ru_RU.utf-8

reboot

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:58 pm
by suavedandy
mikejade wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:24 pm Assuming you setting the russian language
open root terminal and type
# export LANG=ru_RU.utf-8
confirm whether default locale settings /etc/defaul/locale contains this line

LANG="ru_RU.utf-8"

ADDITIONALLY you might need to add these line to ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile files, in your home folder to change permanently the locale of the current user to:ru_RU.utf-8

export LANG=ru_RU.utf-8

reboot
So I tried doing the first command as a normal user, with sudo and as root. Checked the locales file. The line was there. Added the line to ~/.profile and rebooted. Didn't work.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:28 am
by paul1149
Very nice job, @mikejade. I haven't had any problems with it, and the attention to detail, such as carrying over the MX wallpapers, is very nice.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:01 pm
by mikejade
paul1149 wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:28 am Very nice job, @mikejade. I haven't had any problems with it, and the attention to detail, such as carrying over the MX wallpapers, is very nice.
Thanks pal and great to hear is all good.

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:07 pm
by mikejade
suavedandy wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:58 pm
mikejade wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:24 pm Assuming you setting the russian language
open root terminal and type
# export LANG=ru_RU.utf-8
confirm whether default locale settings /etc/defaul/locale contains this line

LANG="ru_RU.utf-8"

ADDITIONALLY you might need to add these line to ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile files, in your home folder to change permanently the locale of the current user to:ru_RU.utf-8

export LANG=ru_RU.utf-8

reboot
So I tried doing the first command as a normal user, with sudo and as root. Checked the locales file. The line was there. Added the line to ~/.profile and rebooted. Didn't work.
to save you from further agony and others who might have same problem, of missing languages decided to make an updated respin with all the localization packages intact.didnt not tweak much just removed the xfce files and added essential KDE packages.should now be possible to add the languages from system settings via add language button.
Download the iso and give a try

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

Re: noobie kde respin...yaah

Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:19 pm
by suavedandy
mikejade wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:07 pm to save you from further agony and others who might have same problem, of missing languages decided to make an updated respin with all the localization packages intact.didnt not tweak much just removed the xfce files and added essential KDE packages.should now be possible to add the languages from system settings via add language button.
Download the iso and give a try

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
Thank you, kind sir.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:11 pm
by paul1149
Mikejade,

Would you know if something was stripped out that would prevent add-ons to Dolphin being installed. I'm trying to add a file search function, and the following is what I get.

Thanks.

https://i.postimg.cc/Hk6DQ8pv/snapshot.png

Edit: Another thing I am unable to do is open synaptic package manager. The consent dialog hangs. When I finally cancel it out it says "unable to find synaptic..."

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:43 pm
by mikejade
paul1149 wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 6:11 pm Mikejade,

Would you know if something was stripped out that would prevent add-ons to Dolphin being installed. I'm trying to add a file search function, and the following is what I get.

Thanks.

https://i.postimg.cc/Hk6DQ8pv/snapshot.png

Edit: Another thing I am unable to do is open synaptic package manager. The consent dialog hangs. When I finally cancel it out it says "unable to find synaptic..."
try and install synaptic via mxpi or terminal.once installed it will be easier to add the dolphin plugins that might be missing..i had uninstalled synaptic but its icon remained in the menu

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:56 pm
by richb
Mike, I do not know if you installed power devil. It is needed for the KDE power module and suspend. By the way I am running my own added KDE. If there is any way I can help with issues let me know.
I am not concerned with size so kept everything that was default that came with MXPI KDE Full install and have added a lot of stuff including downloaded widgets.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:00 pm
by paul1149
mikejade wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:43 pm
try and install synaptic via mxpi or terminal.once installed it will be easier to add the dolphin plugins that might be missing..i had uninstalled synaptic but its icon remained in the menu
Wow, I had tried installing "over" in mxpi, but now I tried an uninstall / reinstall. Still didn't work.

So I did the same via terminal? Instant success. Strange.

Thanks.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:43 pm
by mikejade
richb wrote: Sat Mar 14, 2020 7:56 pm Mike, I do not know if you installed power devil. It is needed for the KDE power module and suspend. By the way I am running my own added KDE. If there is any way I can help with issues let me know.
I am not concerned with size so kept everything that was default that came with MXPI KDE Full install and have added a lot of stuff including downloaded widgets.
Richb,Power devil is installed very important package .couldn't miss it....and sure i would appreciate any help whenever needed thanks alot.... so far all seems good

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:09 pm
by paul1149
BTW, I found out my Synaptic problem. It requires the user password, not root. This is different from XFCE, as I recall. Using the user pw it sails open.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:32 pm
by SwampRabbit
mikejade wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:03 am so decided to challenge myself and tinker around with my machine as i believe learning the hardway is the easyway for me...
I haven't tried your Respin yet, but I want to say you're doing some great work on here engaging and helping users.

I really hope you continue your Respin or at least continue to be part of the community no matter what.

I'll give it a try first chance I get.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:18 pm
by mikejade
paul1149 wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:09 pm BTW, I found out my Synaptic problem. It requires the user password, not root. This is different from XFCE, as I recall. Using the user pw it sails open.
Hi paul1149,been also checking on why the synaptic package manager was showing double entry in menu and found that on top of the already application desktop entry [usr/share/application] carried over from xfce {synaptic.desktop} adding plasma desktop added another {synaptic-kde.desktop} entry and each would executes with different command. have updated the iso and should fix the issue and be run as root.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:23 pm
by mikejade
SwampRabbit wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:32 pm
mikejade wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:03 am so decided to challenge myself and tinker around with my machine as i believe learning the hardway is the easyway for me...
I haven't tried your Respin yet, but I want to say you're doing some great work on here engaging and helping users.

I really hope you continue your Respin or at least continue to be part of the community no matter what.

I'll give it a try first chance I get.
SwampRabbit, Thank you pal, will continue to work on it and hopefully along the way it might attract other community members who will contribute; to better the respin even further...Great work you guys continue to do developing the Distro.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 5:59 pm
by omeringen
I am using your spin about one day on my USB stick and shocked about low system usage(~550MB RAM usage). As far as i see, you didn't change default KDE settings so i didn't need to make a general remaster and there isn't too much extra software so thanks about it, please keep it on next snapshots. I can only suggest adding "plasma-discover" for now.

I experienced some error messages while installing anything via MX Package Installer : https://dpaste.org/uWhA

Checking all KDE spins one by one now and going to stay on one of them definitely.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 2:10 pm
by omeringen
omeringen wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 5:59 pm I am using your spin about one day on my USB stick and shocked about low system usage(~550MB RAM usage). As far as i see, you didn't change default KDE settings so i didn't need to make a general remaster and there isn't too much extra software so thanks about it, please keep it on next snapshots. I can only suggest adding "plasma-discover" for now.

I experienced some error messages while installing anything via MX Package Installer : https://dpaste.org/uWhA

Checking all KDE spins one by one now and going to stay on one of them definitely.
@mikejade,
Tested all KDE spins and recently switched to your spin again for re-test. All respins have a common issue about theming. Some is about SDDM theme, some is about workspace theme but all of them have it.
system settings -> workspace theme -> get a new theme at KDE -> for example Nordic
System settings -> startup and shutdown -> SDDM ->

To be honest, i really like your spin. Please aim for the theming issues on your next spin and keep it vanilla please (no extra software installed).

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:28 am
by pio9a
What is the password?

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:56 am
by mikejade
pio9a wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 11:28 am What is the password?
Root:root

Demo:demo

passwords are the same as the official version

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 12:01 pm
by mikejade
omeringen wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:10 pm
omeringen wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 5:59 pm I am using your spin about one day on my USB stick and shocked about low system usage(~550MB RAM usage). As far as i see, you didn't change default KDE settings so i didn't need to make a general remaster and there isn't too much extra software so thanks about it, please keep it on next snapshots. I can only suggest adding "plasma-discover" for now.

I experienced some error messages while installing anything via MX Package Installer : https://dpaste.org/uWhA

Checking all KDE spins one by one now and going to stay on one of them definitely.
@mikejade,
Tested all KDE spins and recently switched to your spin again for re-test. All respins have a common issue about theming. Some is about SDDM theme, some is about workspace theme but all of them have it.
system settings -> workspace theme -> get a new theme at KDE -> for example Nordic
System settings -> startup and shutdown -> SDDM ->

To be honest, i really like your spin. Please aim for the theming issues on your next spin and keep it vanilla please (no extra software installed).
First of all let me point out that all my respins are using lightdm display manager as the default, so trying to install sddm theme from startup and shutdown settings, you still need to switch to SDDM display manager for you to achieve desired results. from a terminal enter the command 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm' and select sddm from the dialog box drop down menu it will first show lightdm since its the default.

for the themeing issues could you be referring to the 'GTK-warnings theme parsing errors' ??which i found the cause was 'gtkr configs files' probably remained when removing the xfce files .but that can be resolved easily if at all that the main problem you referring to. the warnings for the moment are harmless and you can ignore them but will adress them in next respin. try setting the breeze gtk theme as default in systemsettings gtk section

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:20 pm
by omeringen
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 12:01 pm 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm'
Yeah i know. SDDM thing is common for all spins.
From your spin: https://ibb.co/yFghymH
From another KDE spin: https://ibb.co/wwdb6W9
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 12:01 pm for the themeing issues could you be referring to the 'GTK-warnings theme parsing errors' ??which i found the cause was 'gtkr configs files' probably remained when removing the xfce files .but that can be resolved easily if at all that the main problem you referring to. the warnings for the moment are harmless and you can ignore them but will adress them in next respin. try setting the breeze gtk theme as default in systemsettings gtk section
GTK parsing errors are not that important to me. I am talking about system themes. I also installed most downloaded 3 theme via "system settings -> workspace theme -> get a new theme at KDE" for test. Look at these ugly buttons :
https://ibb.co/G0kw6fm

Thanks for your answer.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 1:40 pm
by mikejade
omeringen wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:20 pm
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 12:01 pm 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm'
Yeah i know. SDDM thing is common for all spins.
From your spin: https://ibb.co/yFghymH
From another KDE spin: https://ibb.co/wwdb6W9
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 12:01 pm for the themeing issues could you be referring to the 'GTK-warnings theme parsing errors' ??which i found the cause was 'gtkr configs files' probably remained when removing the xfce files .but that can be resolved easily if at all that the main problem you referring to. the warnings for the moment are harmless and you can ignore them but will adress them in next respin. try setting the breeze gtk theme as default in systemsettings gtk section
GTK parsing errors are not that important to me. I am talking about system themes. I also installed most downloaded 3 theme via "system settings -> workspace theme -> get a new theme at KDE" for test. Look at these ugly buttons :
https://ibb.co/G0kw6fm

Thanks for your answer.
those buttons do sure loook ugly as hell, but for you to achieve a unified look you need to install kvantum engine then download the Nordic KDE kvantum [https://store.kde.org/p/1326272/] install it in kvantum then in system settings under application style change widget style to kvantum click apply and log out

for the Sddm nordic theme unless i try it out cant help you on that yet, but most likely the cause of the error is from the theme itself and not the system have you tried the default breeze sddm or any other sddm themes?

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 2:58 pm
by omeringen
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:40 pm those buttons do sure loook ugly as hell, but for you to achieve a unified look you need to install kvantum engine then download the Nordic KDE kvantum [https://store.kde.org/p/1326272/] install it in kvantum then in system settings under application style change widget style to kvantum click apply and log out
I already got qt5-style-kvantum and qt5-style-kvantum-themes packages installed and Widget Style and Behavior is set to kvantum. Selecting kvantum-dark also makes no difference. I also realized that "configure" button is deactivated for kvantum and kvantum-dark.

https://ibb.co/DDBQ6zn
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:40 pm for the Sddm nordic theme unless i try it out cant help you on that yet, but most likely the cause of the error is from the theme itself and not the system have you tried the default breeze sddm or any other sddm themes?
Breeze works, Sugar Candy work, Sweet fails, Nordic fails.
I don't need to use SDDM, these issues are not that important but it would be good to see system themes working. Might be my bad, not sure what i did wrong. Maybe i am wrong but i don't think general procedure is selecting a theme at "workspace theme" panel and then try all the "widget style" options one by one. Shouldn't it select the right style automatically ? //edit to this part: Yeah i have never selected widget style before, themes were just working fine on other KDE spins/distros.

On a free time, i will make a fresh bootable MX USB and try again. Thanks again for the answers.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 12:03 pm
by mikejade
omeringen wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 2:58 pm
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:40 pm those buttons do sure loook ugly as hell, but for you to achieve a unified look you need to install kvantum engine then download the Nordic KDE kvantum [https://store.kde.org/p/1326272/] install it in kvantum then in system settings under application style change widget style to kvantum click apply and log out
I already got qt5-style-kvantum and qt5-style-kvantum-themes packages installed and Widget Style and Behavior is set to kvantum. Selecting kvantum-dark also makes no difference. I also realized that "configure" button is deactivated for kvantum and kvantum-dark.

https://ibb.co/DDBQ6zn
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:40 pm for the Sddm nordic theme unless i try it out cant help you on that yet, but most likely the cause of the error is from the theme itself and not the system have you tried the default breeze sddm or any other sddm themes?
Breeze works, Sugar Candy work, Sweet fails, Nordic fails.
I don't need to use SDDM, these issues are not that important but it would be good to see system themes working. Might be my bad, not sure what i did wrong. Maybe i am wrong but i don't think general procedure is selecting a theme at "workspace theme" panel and then try all the "widget style" options one by one. Shouldn't it select the right style automatically ? //edit to this part: Yeah i have never selected widget style before, themes were just working fine on other KDE spins/distros.

On a free time, i will make a fresh bootable MX USB and try again. Thanks again for the answers.
some steps i probably think you miss doing is loading the Nordic theme inside kvantum
.anyway heres how i replicated my look partially

screenshot gallery

[https://postimg.cc/gallery/G37dC6p]

workspace theme look and feel section i didn't change anything from breeze .i found selecting the Nordic theme made the icons invisible.

installed ocs-url from mxpi so that i can install packages direct from store. only download the kvantum theme but for the others recommended packages that go along with the kvantum theme install each of them from the links using ocs-url{best use firefox browser ]

so colour section i choose the NORDIC theme

downloaded the kvantum nordic theme in tar format and extract it to a folder. open kvantum click on install theme and select the nordic theme we have extracted hit install theme inside kvantum{see kvantum install screenshot}

still on kvantum click down section on change/delete theme click drop down menu showing kvantum default and selet the nordic theme we have just installed in previous step. click apply and save.

head to system setting application style change to kvantum {configure button alway inactive so dont worry if you want to configure then open kvantum} click apply

go to windows decoration select nordic [look and feel of win titles] click apply

log out and log in open kvantum to further fine tune your preferred customization such as blur ,buttons size etc ...
since was trying out the theme from live usb stick i incorporated the themes and updated the iso .nordic theme looks kinda nice ...did love it will upload the iso multi section respin .
One thing for sure is that customizing kde to achieve desired looks aint a walk in the park..it can be so confusing at first but once you messed around and known the tricks ...you will be smiling all the way to the theme store lol..
All the best buddy theming. keep safe stay strong.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 10:26 am
by mikejade
mikejade wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:03 pm
omeringen wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 2:58 pm
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:40 pm those buttons do sure loook ugly as hell, but for you to achieve a unified look you need to install kvantum engine then download the Nordic KDE kvantum [https://store.kde.org/p/1326272/] install it in kvantum then in system settings under application style change widget style to kvantum click apply and log out
I already got qt5-style-kvantum and qt5-style-kvantum-themes packages installed and Widget Style and Behavior is set to kvantum. Selecting kvantum-dark also makes no difference. I also realized that "configure" button is deactivated for kvantum and kvantum-dark.

https://ibb.co/DDBQ6zn
mikejade wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 1:40 pm for the Sddm nordic theme unless i try it out cant help you on that yet, but most likely the cause of the error is from the theme itself and not the system have you tried the default breeze sddm or any other sddm themes?
Breeze works, Sugar Candy work, Sweet fails, Nordic fails.
I don't need to use SDDM, these issues are not that important but it would be good to see system themes working. Might be my bad, not sure what i did wrong.
Maybe i am wrong but i don't think general procedure is selecting a theme at "workspace theme" panel and then try all the "widget style" options one by one. Shouldn't it select the right style automatically ? //edit to this part: Yeah i have never selected widget style before, themes were just working fine on other KDE spins/distros.
well generally for distros focused on kde tend to finely polish their themes out of the box and also you must consider the plasma desktop for debian is still old compared to the other distros with rolling-release model but for themes from the kde stores made by users you might need to tweak more than one section to achieve a harmonius look....thats what i think
On a free time, i will make a fresh bootable MX USB and try again. Thanks again for the answers.
some steps i probably think you miss doing is loading the Nordic theme inside kvantum
.anyway heres how i replicated my look partially

screenshot gallery

[https://postimg.cc/gallery/G37dC6p]

workspace theme look and feel section i didn't change anything from breeze .i found selecting the Nordic theme made the icons invisible.

installed ocs-url from mxpi so that i can install packages direct from store. only download the kvantum theme but for the others recommended packages that go along with the kvantum theme install each of them from the links using ocs-url{best use firefox browser ]

so colour section i choose the NORDIC theme

downloaded the kvantum nordic theme in tar format and extract it to a folder. open kvantum click on install theme and select the nordic theme we have extracted hit install theme inside kvantum{see kvantum install screenshot}

still on kvantum click down section on change/delete theme click drop down menu showing kvantum default and selet the nordic theme we have just installed in previous step. click apply and save.

head to system setting application style change to kvantum {configure button alway inactive so dont worry if you want to configure then open kvantum} click apply

go to windows decoration select nordic [look and feel of win titles] click apply

log out and log in open kvantum to further fine tune your preferred customization such as blur ,buttons size etc ...
since was trying out the theme from live usb stick i incorporated the themes and updated the iso .nordic theme looks kinda nice ...did love it will upload the iso multi section respin .
One thing for sure is that customizing kde to achieve desired looks aint a walk in the park..it can be so confusing at first but once you messed around and known the tricks ...you will be smiling all the way to the theme store lol..
All the best buddy theming. keep safe stay strong.

Re: Noobie KDE BUSTER 64bit respin...yaah

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 3:33 pm
by omeringen
@mikejade,
Thanks for detailed explanation, worked ! You have nothing to do with that but what i understand is it's a wrong attitude to list these kind of themes at "get new themes" section at KDE system settings because they need an extra tool to install.