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Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:38 pm
by uncle mark
AVLinux wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:16 am
@uncle mark
So you're saying Linux Mint's head gaskets will fail prematurely!?
*Subaru owners in-joke..
LOL. So I'm told.
The outfit I work for owns six NAPA stores, and the one I work for is the biggest/flagship. Our store tends to get the new vehicles, then they get handed down to one of the smaller stores after around 100K. Hopefully those head gaskets will be someone else's problem in a few years.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:03 pm
by davidy
My buddy swears by subaru's, the older ones with a stick, because he can fix them easily and keep them running a very long time. The newer ones with every conceivable bs addon are simply failures waiting to happen, none of which have anything to do with it being drivable. As for Mint being #1? Total lies. Mint is for the person switching from windows who knows nothing about pc's in general, much less windows itself incl. linux. That there is the problem. The manufactuerer's as well as the distro developers take advantage of people's general naivety as google has done so spectacularly. Make it easy, make it popular, make it an attack vector.
MX is still #1 PERIOD! Distrowatch is only good for browsing the multitude of available iso's. The iso's either do what you need or they get dumped. That simple.
As for buying anything new with every bs addon feature? That only works if you are leasing it.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:05 pm
by asqwerth
davidy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:03 pmAs for Mint being #1? Total lies. Mint is for the person switching from windows who
knows nothing about pc's in general, much less windows itself incl. linux. That there is the problem. The manufactuerer's as well as the
distro developers take advantage of people's general naivety as google has done so spectacularly. Make it easy, make it popular,
make it an attack vector......
Let's not make these sort of unfounded allegations against other distros or the people who use them.
See rules:
viewtopic.php?p=255061#p255061
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:06 pm
by siamhie
Eadwine Rose wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:09 am
People using MX need less help
+1

Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 3:22 am
by Stevo
After all, we've ported over at least one Mint tool. I'm not biased, I'll steal borrow from anyone.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 4:13 am
by DukeComposed
davidy wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:03 pm
As for Mint being #1? Total lies. Mint is for the person switching from windows who knows nothing about pc's in general, much less windows itself incl. linux.
Not necessarily. When I decided to make Linux my daily driver, I first went with an Arch-based distro and gave up after 5 weeks and the roughly one dozen kernel updates that occurred in that time frame. My second choice was Linux Mint, and I made that selection after a careful analysis of how it would satisfy my needs. Mint is an Ubuntu-based distribution, and at the time Ubuntu was shipping ZFS built directly into their kernels. I don't recall how long the standard Ubuntu LTS releases were supported, but Mint's support timeline for their releases is long and steady.
Mint offered multiple choices for a desktop environment, easy-ish ZFS-on-root support, years of updates, and that extra bit of polish and attention to detail that clem and team are renowned for providing. It suits the concept of "it just works" to a tee. While all this boils down to "it's a good distro for beginners", don't make the mistake of thinking that experts can't find something useful about the Mint project.
I switched from Mint 18.3 to MX Linux in large part because I was loathing the extensive systemd overgrowth in Mint 18 and 19 and wanted to reduce my use of and dependency on Lennart Poettering software. Still, the amount of utility I got out of Mints 14-ish through 17 can't be overstated. It's clean, stable, and easy to maintain. I cannot bring myself to look down on Linux Mint or its dev team because they clearly show care and competency when it comes to building a release. I haven't run Mint in any capacity in six or seven years, but when a new Mint Xfce gets released I make a point to download the torrent and seed it. It's the least I can do.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 5:26 am
by Freja
In my view MX like "solid, fast, functional fun, like freedom of LEGO(R)".
In my view Mint like "Finished diecast car model, just works".
I can't say it well, but there are many people who think so. I always needing fun into computing.
Anyway, MX using is similar to the feeling of viewing enjoying model kits.

Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 6:49 am
by Pierre
well - - the latest DW stat has dropped :
- MX-Linux - - 2377
- Mint - - 2326
2024
thus - an win - by an nose -

Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:06 am
by kc1di
I must say that Mint has been and is a good Linux distro. I used it for many years. and Switched to Mx becaus Mint dropped it support of KDE DE. MX has a good solid KDE and that's what draws me away from Mint. Not that Mint is inferior in any way It's been solid also but I'm a KDE type of guy :)
And I don't care for Systemd either at least MX gives me a choice. And Linux is about choice if nothing else. Been using Linux since the 90's Really liked Mepis in the day and that why I was drawn to MX-KDE. Distrowatch list is just a popularity score nothing more. And yes Mint does make it easy for newbies to adopt Linux. That's not bad. MX is just as easy in my opinion.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 8:46 am
by siamhie
kc1di wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 7:06 am
Distrowatch list is just a popularity score nothing more.
Actually, it's not. No-one seems to click on the link at the bottom of the list. DW really needs to put it at the top.
The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring interest in Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website.
They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions.
They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch was accessed each day, nothing more.