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Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 2:06 pm
by asqwerth
5.24 Plasma is an LTS edition, and I understand the problem is with 5.25. Fed 36 has 5.25.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 5:39 pm
by Outlander
AK-47 wrote: Wed Sep 28, 2022 10:35 am
I don't really understand the premise behind Manjaro. They're trying to make Arch user friendly, but honestly aren't there enough "user-friendly" distros out there? It's not like an average user cares about the wonderful command-line package manager and updater, and source code, etc. They want to do things on their PC and they want it to bloody well work. I'm in the same boat myself, which is why i don't use Arch or its derivatives.
1. Arch gets a reputation as a minimal, highly-configurable, and "advanced" distro that gets the newest updates before anyone else.
2. People are attracted to Arch, but struggle to install, configure, and properly maintain a system running it.
3. Manjaro offers the benefits of Arch without the drawbacks of Arch. Of course this is not really the case-- they hold back updates and don't ship a more minimal system than, say, Ubuntu. But the target audience of Manjaro doesn't understand why Arch got a reputation for being minimal and bleeding edge anyway.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:18 pm
by asqwerth
I know we are going more off topic, but "not shipping a more minimal system" is not bad per se: you have to consider who a large part of their users/target audience are.
Having a ready to use system OOTB makes sense, like it does for MX, which people - even in the distrowatch reviews - have accused of being bloated and too full featured.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:22 pm
by Adrian
"not shipping a more minimal system"
I know my builds are not "official" but if somebody wants a minimal system there's nothing like MX-Minimal (still having a Xfce) and MX-CLI (only CLI without Xorg) builds in Community_Respins:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-lin ... y_Respins/
Heck, my CLI ISO is smaller even than the Arch ISO and frankly I think it has more stuff in it, it even has a CLI version of MX Snapshot...
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:43 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
The last 3 comments look like the same (troll) don't they?
Version: 21.2.1
Rating: 1
Date: 2022-12-27
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resou ... &distro=mx
When did this happen?
People loudly complained about the forum being down for weeks.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 6:52 pm
by richb
It has never been down for weeks, not even close. I do not recall it being down for more than a couple hours.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 7:19 pm
by dolphin_oracle
The antix forum had problems for several days but not mx
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:31 pm
by Stevo
Obviously, it happened in the Troll universe, but not here.
Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:33 pm
by siamhie
That third comment down cracked me up
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I decided to go to their official forum and it was down for weeks!
Their website constantly goes down along with their repositories.
For some reason, updates will not install randomly as well.
Mx seems half baked to me. The fact they can't keep their website
or repositories up is a very bad sign. When the forums came back
up I found out Bluetooth stopped working for everyone and there
was no fix in sight. People loudly complained about the forum being
down for weeks.
This is amateur hour. I'm pretty sure this OS is not secure at all either.
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Re: Distrowatch review grumbles
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:40 pm
by Stevo
A lot of those posts have similar wording: "it offers nothing over regular Debian", etc. along with spurious complaints they seem to have scraped from other distro's reviews, such as MX pushing Nvidia drivers by default, KDE missing Discover, "Tried the KDE edition which out of the box was missing Discover" and everyone complaining about "square fonts".
I believe this reviewer may be ready to run for office in New York State. (only slightly political--it's a joke!)
Does Distrowatch have any mechanism to complain about bad faith reviews like these?