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Re: Why only KDE, XFCe and Fluxbox
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:25 pm
by jeffreyC
AVLinux wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:38 pm
Joseph DeGarmo wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:24 pm
And the Buddies of Budgie are working to part ways from the clutches of GNOME and evolve into an EFL-based Wayland platform on the future Budgie 11 release. This is a good move because the dependency on systemd and the Libadwaita theme is not OK.
Do you mean EFL as in the base libraries of Enlightenment?!
That will be interesting to see because the main developer of Enlightenment and EFL has very little use for sysvinit or anything other than systemd.
Which is sort-of odd considering this statement on the project homepage:
"Enlightenment is a Window Manager, Compositor and Minimal Desktop for Linux (the primary platform), BSD and any other compatible UNIX system."
Last time I looked systemd is exclusively for Linux.
Re: Why only KDE, XFCe and Fluxbox
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:00 am
by artytux
This weeks DistroWatch link
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20240617
!/4 way down the page look for this article
The BSDs, X11, and Wayland
That has many links
Re: Why only KDE, XFCe and Fluxbox
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:43 am
by LinuxSpring1
AVLinux wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:03 am
Yes, that is the one..
How long an answer do you want? I personally like it very much which has been to my detriment because it has not been overly well received by AVL Users. I would describe it as "maddeningly brilliant"...lol. It falls somewhere between a Window Manager and a Desktop Environment and it is incomplete in some important areas (ie it's File Manager is lacking some key features so it currently requires an outside File Manager, I use Thunar). It's compositing (window fades, shadows, transitions) are wonderfully rendered and yet Enlightenment is far lighter on RAM than XFCE so it gives you 'bling' at virtually no cost. It is not easy to theme, in fact it's themes are quite complicated to code so it is not easy to make it look like anything else so if you want to do a lot of theme customization it will frustrate you. It's developed with systemd in mind so using it without systemd is not impossible but not easy.. It is a DE with an artists temperament, beautiful while at the same time difficult and I weirdly find that aspect of it attractive..
Thanks
@AVLinux for that answer it was helpfull. I am surpised that it is a mini DE but with a lesser RAM footprint than XFCE. That is indeed impressive. I am assuming consequently it will be light on the CPU too. Is it as polished as KDE is?
Thanks
@artytux that was helpfull.
So KDE can run out of the box but with some functionality missing on SysVInit. GNOME cannot and probably will not. Enlightenment with some effort from the user and so on. So can the developers and moderators of MX Linux comment on whether the support of KDE for SystVInit played a role for its selection against say GNOME or its variants or Enlightenment?
@dolphin_oracle,
@rokytnji.1,
@uncle mark,
@Jerry3904 and others can you please give your thoughts over here. I am not questioning that it was a correct or incorrect decision. Nor am I putting or asking to put any doubt about the soundness of choosing KDE for MX Linux.
Re: Why only KDE, XFCe and Fluxbox
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:21 am
by dolphin_oracle
I think you are overthinking things. See post #4's answer. that is the reason we have xfce, fluxbox, and KDE releases. Because we want to. Its the beauty of running your own linux project, you can do what you want.
Re: Why only KDE, XFCe and Fluxbox
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 10:35 am
by Jerry3904
As Mod I'm closing this thread. The question has been answered, as Lead Dev @dolphin_oracle points out, and no further discussion is needed.