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1. use rofi as appfinder substitute
2. remove Debian menu as default, making installation procedure to include current startup entry AND how to remove
3. refresh rofi-help menu
4. change F2 to rofi runbox
5. include gkrellm in comfort style
6. keys: add easy screen blanking:

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# turn off monitor
none F12 :Exec sleep 1 ; xset dpms force off

7. change desktop files for mxfb-look and mx-rofi-manager into general names: Look manager, Rofi manager
8. figure out how to translate labels in the idesk icon files
9. use a Rofi power manager instead of exit-options ?
10. add Goodies to menu with xkcd and/or weather?
11. switch to viewnior or mirage (< Ceeslans) instead of gThumb
12. [ideas?]
13. develop a session file to pull in defaults for mx-fluxbox if they don't exist already. use /etc/X11/Xsession.d/21xfce4-defaults-mx as a template.
14. develop method in startup that would process autostart entries from /etc/xdg/autostart, and ~/.config/autostart.
15. Fluxbox menu -- edit appearance submenu to hide legacy styles as default
16. Include font-awesome in default installation
17. Amend or include additional links in MX-Tour help tab to open mxfb specific help docs.
18. review MX-Tweak tabs
19. MX-Look: Develop a set of looks to be included in the default installation to give user a choice between a few presets setups.

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:15 am
@dolphin_oracle #2 Currently the Debian menu from mxfb-accessories is incorporated into the rootMenu by default, which requires additional code for updates and an entry into startup. There is no way to remove it that stops the added upgrade activity as well--user needs to remove a file in /etc IIRC that s/he doesn't even know exists.

I'm hoping we can change the script so that on first run a dialog box will describe what will be changed and added, and how to remove (maybe place that removal info in startup along with the commented command, for instance, so user could find again). Something along those lines ...

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 9:15 am
... you were right about it setting the wallpaper, thanks; we would have to set that with the install. I like the low mem usage, speed and basic functions--like everything else, user can use MXPI to upgrade (gThumb, Mirage, Gimp, etc.) as needed.

1. use rofi as appfinder substitute
OK. Would xfce-appfinder still be included in default installation?

Not sure ATM; if not, we would petition DO to add it to MXPI

4. change F2 to rofi runbox
Would another key combo be defined in keys file for the current F2 "rename file" function? eg. ctrl+ F2 currently assigned to "Exec fbrun"

Sorry, I conflated two questions: app and key setting. App: I would urge the much better-looking and capable rofi runbox I posted + video earlier. Key setting: currently default for fbrun is Ctrl + F2 and we could think about whether to keep that. Also not sure ATM

5. include gkrellm in comfort style
Include how? Comfort gkrellm themes as part of default installation or generally include monitor settings in saved looks?

7. change desktop files for mxfb-look and mx-rofi-manager into general names: Look manager, Rofi manager
OK, but not sure why do you want to remove MX "branding"?
New names:
Rofi-manager OK, does what it says on the box
Look Manager/Appearance Manager: not sure manager is the right word. I always liked "Look Library"

Open for discussion for sure

8. figure out how to translate labels in the idesk icon files
fehlix, DO?

I want to think about this first

9. use a Rofi power manager instead of exit-options ?
Thumbs up, all hail Rofi-Master Kobaian

+1

11. switch to viewnior or mirage (< Ceeslans) instead of gThumb
Had a quick look at it. Seems OK for a simple viewer.
What is the problem with gThumb? For me it is too much and too obscure
What is the difference to feh, imagemagick? It's much more user-friendly and attractive than feh, never use imagemagick as a gui
Do we need all three in the default install? Doubt it

siamhie wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:12 am Personally I use nomacs. If i do a fresh install, I replace gThumb with nomacs. It has the ability to print and supports 59 extensions.

Jerry3904 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:49 am It will be hard to convince me that MXFB should come with anything except a basic viewer--and viewnior seems excellent for that purpose. That's the whole development model behind MXFB: provide some basic apps and point to MXPI for easy changes.

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:32 pm Hmmm:

1) how would icons be created without it?
2) what about people who like icons on the desktop?
3) rotate wallpaper ATM uses it to do the work.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:43 pm Alternatively if we want the default link files localized then we should have a scipt generate the links, or maybe just modify the links. maybe as an extension to xdg-update-dirs diversion that we have. That way the captions and names can be put into pot files for transifex.

fehlix wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:25 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:43 pm Alternatively if we want the default link files localized then we should have a scipt generate the links, or maybe just modify the links. maybe as an extension to xdg-update-dirs diversion that we have. That way the captions and names can be put into pot files for transifex.

That's was idea, when the question was raised.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:26 am here's one to add.

develop a session file to pull in defaults for mx-fluxbox if they don't exist already. use /etc/X11/Xsession.d/21xfce4-defaults-mx as a template. I've been working on the xfce one for a while, with the idea of doing one for fluxbox later. will eliminate the mxflux_install script.

develop method in startup that would process autostart entries from /etc/xdg/autostart, and ~/.config/autostart. this would simplify the startup file greatly. we would probably need to add some some of autostart selection tool, like xfce and KDE have.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:42 pm done and sent to repo

switch to go direct to theme tab is --theme

fluxbox-remote restart; idesktoggle idesk refresh 

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 10:03 am the traditional method? wouldn't that be the styles menu? I'm really not catching what you are throwing.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 11:48 am Ok. restarting the whole window manager seems harsh to just change the theme...

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 11:48 am ... I usually set my theme once and forget about it.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 11:48 am I wonder if this is broken in fluxbox 1.3.7? I've never noticed a problem running antiX, which I think is still using 1.3.5. but I haven't been paying close attention either, since I usually set my theme once and forget about it.

anticapitalista wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 2:00 pm Just to let you know that the same issue appears on antiX.
User has to click Restart after changing theme.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 1:47 pm What’s 1.3.7 have that is worth the upgrade?

Fluxbox 1.3.6 - It's about time.
Tue Jan 06 08:53:46 UTC 2015

After a long long long time it's finally time to give the world a new release: 1.3.6. Many thanks to all the contributors who brought you:

Critical Bugfixes:

    Clocktool problems
    Rendering long text
    Race condition on shutdown
    Lost keypresses after workspace switch
    Corruption of fbrun-history

Minor Bugfixes:

    Resize and Move problems

Features:

    'ArrangeWindowsStack' action
    Treat Windows with WM_CLASS == "DockApp" as DockApps

Minor:

    Updated translations (Bulgarian, Hebrew, Japanese)

Let it 'flux'! And a happy and successful 2015!
The Fluxbox team 

Fluxbox 1.3.7 - Bam! Zero Bugs!!11!
Sun Feb 08 12:57:55 UTC 2015

To release 1.3.6 ~ a month ago was a great success: A lot of you, our users, who rarely run bleeding edge fluxbox.git, 
were confronted with what was hidden in the git repository for almost 2 years. Due to the lack of testing power there was 
no other way to get "massive" feedback. 1.3.6 generated the feedback we needed to make 1.3.7. There will be bugs, obviously, 
but we think 1.3.7 is in pretty good shape. Without further ado:

Critical Bugfixes:

    Segfault on startup (mostly *BSD)
    Segfault on shutdown
    Segfault on clicking the Remember menu
    Menu crops on TypeAhead

Minor Bugfixes:

    _NET_REQUEST_FRAME_EXTENTS
    Working autorepeat keys
    Working vertical rotated Tabs and Toolbar
    Proper size of titlebar buttons on restart / detaching tabs
    Missing windowmenu works again
    Several glitches in the menu
    Correct handling of 'maximized' statement in the apps file

Features:

    The improved TypeAhead sytem is not limited to matches on beginning of menu items anymore, the behavior is configurable:
        Nowhere - disables TypeAhead support
        ItemStart - matches typed text only at the start of a menu item
        Somewhere - matches typed text somewhere in a menu item (Currently this is a configfile-only option)

    Minor tweaks to the i18n system
    Updated turkish translations

End User unrelated:

    Code refactoring and cleanup, assisted by Coverity and clang static code analysis

Get it at the usual places, downloading the source is one option.
The Fluxbox team 

anticapitalista wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 2:00 pm Just to let you know that the same issue appears on antiX.
User has to click Restart after changing theme.

siamhie wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 3:41 pm

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 1:47 pm What’s 1.3.7 have that is worth the upgrade?

@dolphin_oracle There's been a lot of upgrades/features between 1.3.5 and 1.3.7. I ran Fluxbox as my default desktop with 2003 Slackware 10 (FB 0.1.14) thru 2015 Slackware 14.2 (FB 1.3.7) with no issues.
I don't understand why Debian still clings onto version 1.3.5 after all these years.

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Fluxbox 1.3.6 - It's about time.
Tue Jan 06 08:53:46 UTC 2015

After a long long long time it's finally time to give the world a new release: 1.3.6. Many thanks to all the contributors who brought you:

Critical Bugfixes:

    Clocktool problems
    Rendering long text
    Race condition on shutdown
    Lost keypresses after workspace switch
    Corruption of fbrun-history

Minor Bugfixes:

    Resize and Move problems

Features:

    'ArrangeWindowsStack' action
    Treat Windows with WM_CLASS == "DockApp" as DockApps

Minor:

    Updated translations (Bulgarian, Hebrew, Japanese)

Let it 'flux'! And a happy and successful 2015!
The Fluxbox team 

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Fluxbox 1.3.7 - Bam! Zero Bugs!!11!
Sun Feb 08 12:57:55 UTC 2015

To release 1.3.6 ~ a month ago was a great success: A lot of you, our users, who rarely run bleeding edge fluxbox.git, 
were confronted with what was hidden in the git repository for almost 2 years. Due to the lack of testing power there was 
no other way to get "massive" feedback. 1.3.6 generated the feedback we needed to make 1.3.7. There will be bugs, obviously, 
but we think 1.3.7 is in pretty good shape. Without further ado:

Critical Bugfixes:

    Segfault on startup (mostly *BSD)
    Segfault on shutdown
    Segfault on clicking the Remember menu
    Menu crops on TypeAhead

Minor Bugfixes:

    _NET_REQUEST_FRAME_EXTENTS
    Working autorepeat keys
    Working vertical rotated Tabs and Toolbar
    Proper size of titlebar buttons on restart / detaching tabs
    Missing windowmenu works again
    Several glitches in the menu
    Correct handling of 'maximized' statement in the apps file

Features:

    The improved TypeAhead sytem is not limited to matches on beginning of menu items anymore, the behavior is configurable:
        Nowhere - disables TypeAhead support
        ItemStart - matches typed text only at the start of a menu item
        Somewhere - matches typed text somewhere in a menu item (Currently this is a configfile-only option)

    Minor tweaks to the i18n system
    Updated turkish translations

End User unrelated:

    Code refactoring and cleanup, assisted by Coverity and clang static code analysis

Get it at the usual places, downloading the source is one option.
The Fluxbox team 

DeepDayze wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 4:05 pm Is FB 1.3.7 packaged in the Test Repo for users to test?

I used FB for a time when I was running AntiX and the little annoyances with themes, especially on multimonitor setups bugged me.

dolphin_oracle wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 3:51 pm
I'll tell you one that is broke, and it bugs me all the time: fluxbox 1.3.7 does not have a right-click settings menu on the fluxbox toolbar. Its very irritating.

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 6:57 am Looking for feedback on pending rootMenu changes for beta:

1. Add "Extras" with the weather in mxfb-goodies, bl-xkcd--if we can get it working--and two other items out of existing Style (which I'm simplifying)

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[submenu] (Extras)
    	[exec] (Weather) {weather_cli}
    	[submenu] (Window options)
    	   	[Exec] (Border size and color) {mxfb-borders}
    		[Exec] (Titlebar mode) {mxfb-top}
        [end]
    [end]

2. radical simplification of Appearance > Theme using @dolphin_oracle's terrific new version of MX Tweak being released today

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   	[Exec] (Theme) {mx-tweak --theme}

[submenu] (Theme)
[exec] (MX Tweak) {mx-tweak --theme}
[exec] (LXAppearance) {lxappearance}
[end]

3. Addition of Appearance > Font, using a lost little app that needs updating of form and content--and perhaps an eventual expansion

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  [Exec] (Font) {mxfb-menufont} 

4. Renaming for clarification that @ceeslans asked for

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    [submenu] (Toolbar)
        [exec] (Fluxbox toolbar) {toggletint2}
        [exec] (tint2 panel) {toggletint2}
    [end]

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 6:57 am 3. Addition of Appearance > Font, using a lost little app that needs updating of form and content--and perhaps an eventual expansion

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  [Exec] (Font) {mxfb-menufont} 

Melber wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 6:32 pm

Jerry3904 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 6:57 am 3. Addition of Appearance > Font, using a lost little app that needs updating of form and content--and perhaps an eventual expansion

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  [Exec] (Font) {mxfb-menufont} 

I didn't know this app even existed!
Just for info, I have started fiddling...
So far options to override fluxbox style font settings for window title, menu title and menu text.
Changing gtk-font setting still to come.


font.png

Jerry3904 wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:00 am @siamhie In development, not packaged/released yet.

first run "sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme" and select a theme.
I then edit ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini and change the gtk-cursor-theme-name entry to match the x-cursor-theme selection.

jb@mx:~$ sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[sudo] password for jb: 
There are 3 choices for the alternative x-cursor-theme (providing /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme).

  Selection    Path                                     Priority   Status
------------------------------------------------------------
  0            /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/cursor.theme     90        auto mode
  1            /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/cursor.theme     90        manual mode
* 2            /usr/share/icons/DMZ-Black/cursor.theme   30        manual mode
  3            /usr/share/icons/DMZ-White/cursor.theme   50        manual mode

Press <enter> to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number:

#!/usr/bin/env bash

fifo="/tmp/themes_script.fifo"
mkfifo "$fifo"

declare -a themes
find /usr/share/icons -maxdepth 2 -type d  -name "cursors" -printf "%P\n" > "$fifo" &
find ~/.icons -maxdepth 2 -type d  -name "cursors" -printf "%P\n" >> "$fifo" &

while IFS= read -r line
do
        themes+=("${line%/*}")
done < "$fifo"
rm "$fifo"

echo ">>> Please enter the number of new theme for cursor"
select opt in "${themes[@]}"
do
     if [ $REPLY -le ${#themes} ]
     then
          gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-theme  \'$opt\' &&
          exit 0
     else
          echo "Improper argument" > /dev/stderr
          exit 1
     fi
done

IMHO best have a launcher on the panel to a pic/ image or even text file with the fluxkey combinations.

We don't put lots of launchers on the panel by default. There is already a conky available and the keys (text) file itself, but your comment makes me think about adding an icon to the Settings Manager.

ceeslans wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:58 pm Am intrigued about your FT10 applications package. How compatible (or which part thereof) is compatible with the MX Fluxbox setup?

PPC wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:39 pm Since I'm not currently a MXFB user, I have no right to "complain", but the tint2 simpledock configuration (maybe adapted from the model I proposed in the past?) does use a lot less resources than the default MXFB toolbar (that uses more RAM for each new icon). I recall having proposed a yad GUI to add/remove quick launch icons to tint2 files- It would be a major change, swapping the default "dock", but I do think it would mean that the end product would be lighter and no features would be lost.

Melber wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 12:29 pm exactly which tint2 configuration do you mean with "simpledock "?
How much is a "lot less" RAM usage?

PPC wrote: Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:18 pm
Adding new "buttons", however, is so complex that I don't recommend anyone below the level of medium/advanced user should try. If the Devs like that and want to add even more features to the default fluxbox toolbar, an yad script can be created to edit fluxbox's config file and add/remove text quicklaunchers (and even offer a list of generic glyphs that can be used as surrogate "icons").

P.