MX-21 Fluxbox RC1 feedback

[Jerry3904]

OK, thanks. Never mind the numbers--does the window show all or most of the icons? Can you attach a pic?

[siamhie]

OK, thanks. Never mind the numbers--does the window show all or most of the icons? Can you attach a pic?

When I initially opened it, it showed two rows of icons but I've since resized it and saved the settings via the title bar.

[Jerry3904]

Thanks.

[PPC]

In MXFB 32bits RC1, live mode, in VirtualBox, when I try to install anything (I tried a couple of packages), it seems there's an error with the fluxbox menu updater hook... I get this:

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Please wait, creating menu file - stored in /home/demo/.fluxbox/submenus/full_menu ...
Menu file created and ready to be used
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E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'su $(logname) /usr/bin/mxfb-menu-generator'
E: Sub-process returned an error code

Edit:
Also, when I open dockmaker, if I click the "edit" button, the default dock file is only displayed if I click the "all files" option on the lower right

P.

[brad]

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Errors were encountered while processing:
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logname: no login name
su: user /usr/bin/mxfb-menu-generator does not exist or the user entry does not contain all the required fields
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'su $(logname) /usr/bin/mxfb-menu-generator'
E: Sub-process returned an error code

[dolphin_oracle]

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Errors were encountered while processing:
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logname: no login name
su: user /usr/bin/mxfb-menu-generator does not exist or the user entry does not contain all the required fields
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'su $(logname) /usr/bin/mxfb-menu-generator'
E: Sub-process returned an error code

just pushed an update for that one a few minutes ago thanks.

[Girafenaine]

Hello,

Thank you very much for this new release of my prefered linux OS ! I post here as a daily MX and antiX user since 2 years, especially with fluxbox windows manager.

Quick infos :

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-8-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet disable_theme splash 
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.7 info: tint2 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 
           Distro: MX-21_fluxbox_rc1_x64 Wildflower Oct 05  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: XPS 15 7590 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0VYV0G v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: 1.13.0 
           date: 07/22/2021 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 71.4 Wh condition: 81.0/97.0 Wh (83%) volts: 12.8/11.4 
           model: SMP DELL GPM0365 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
CPU:       Topology: 6-Core model: Intel Core i7-9750H bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake 
           family: 6 model-id: 9E (158) stepping: A (10) microcode: EA L2 cache: 12.0 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 62399 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/4500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 801 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 
           5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 9: 800 10: 800 11: 800 12: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel CoffeeLake-H GT2 [UHD Graphics 630] vendor: Dell driver: i915 
           v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:3e9b 
           Device-2: NVIDIA TU117M [GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile / Max-Q] vendor: Dell driver: N/A 
           bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1f91 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 630 (CFL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:a348 
           Device-2: Texas Instruments SMSL M-3 Desktop DAC type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio 
           bus ID: 1-2:3 chip ID: 0451:0003 serial: <filter> 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 vendor: Rivet Networks driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
           port: 3000 bus ID: 3b:00.0 chip ID: 8086:2723 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 480.69 GiB used: 359.64 GiB (74.8%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Micron model: 2200S NVMe 512GB size: 476.94 GiB 
           block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> 
           rev: 22001020 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Generic model: Flash Disk size: 3.75 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 8.07 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 26.99 GiB size: 26.40 GiB (97.81%) used: 4.85 GiB (18.4%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2406 fan-2: 2412 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.lip6.fr/pub/linux/distributions/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 300 Uptime: 17m Memory: 15.27 GiB used: 1.62 GiB (10.6%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 

Here are some points I would like to put forward :

1. thanks ! it's a pleaure to see this nice and fast and efficient linux OS to keep evolving.
- thanks for deadbeef and qpdfview as default apps. They have been apps of choice for me since years. I used to met an issue with qpdfview that does not get focus when already opened in the background and you open a new pdf file, but it seems that there is not this issue in MXFB 21... I don't know why but it is great.

2. great to see the new settings manager for MXFB, without the last "xfce settings manager" which was strange in MXFB 19. This setting manager has a few issues in my eyes :
- its window size is strange and does not fit the icons. I have to resize it every time I open it to be able to see all icons (with 3 or 4 icons columns).
- the buttons don't fit the categories as far as I am concerned. You have Pulseaudio, audio card and alsamixer in three different categories, while all of them are about audio ! I suggest :
a. Change "user" category in "Interface and appearance"
b. Put together "System" and "Hardware" in only one "System" category
c. Move "Trashscheck" and "Mugshot" in that "System" category
- For a next update or release, I suggest to put together "Settings manager" and "MX tools", since I guess newcomers will spend time to look in both panels. I don't see any good logical reason to keep them separated. We would have to add some categories (maintenance, utilities...) in the "MXFB settings manager". I think of antiX settings panel as a good way to follow.

3. Appearance :
- I know it's all about personal tastes, but I don't like the default background, and above all I guess it will deter some new users ! The pink tone, the blurry aspect... not very clean and modern. While it's nice to have some choice in the "background/nitrogen" setting, the default background could be much more monotone and elegant. In the available options I suggest picking mxfb_graycubes, mxfb_bluerain or MX_KXF_Blues as default background.
- great to have tint2 as default panel and a choice of preconfigured panels ! thanks for that. I find that the default one is nice, but : too large (menu icon on the left could be a little smaller, and get all the panel to be thinner), and windows buttons are not easy at all to read and pick up ! A default panel with icons and text rather than text alone could be easier to use (+apps buttons should be wider to have more text to read)
- the main app menu on the left in the tint2 panel should be modified with a little script to make it open then close. It would behave as everyone expect from such a menu. I believe that several forum members already suggested that point - and easy script to do that ! I use :

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test=$(ps -C xfce4-appfinder -o pid=)

if [$test == ""]; then
	xfce4-appfinder --disable-server &
else
	kill "$test"
fi

4. For laptop use, I find much more efficient to have two-fingers-click for right-click, and three-fingers-click for middle-click. We could configure libinput and synaptics that way by default, or have an option in MX-adjustement "other" tab. I am used to make the change every time I install an OS, but it would be great to have it out-of-the-box, especially for new users.

5. Right-click fluxbox menu :
- I read "Settings manager", and then "settings". That's confusing, and I suggest : first, to name the second one "Fluxbox settings", and then to name the first one "System settings and tools" and to move it in the last part, next to "Fluxbox Settings".
- "out-of-sight" could be moved into the "appearance" category, as it will not be of daily use, and quite logical to find it under "appearance".

And I should add... I am very proud to see the "recent docs" submenu in the MXFB right-click menu, as I adapted it from BobC script last year :)

I will be happy to help with the above points if I can.

[Jerry3904]

Thanks for the details feedback! It's very late to be making changes, and some of them )menus, for instance) would cause big trouble. But they will definitely all be considered for the future.

We're have just fixed the Settings Manager problem you raise btw.

[mbmalone]

I have an HP Stream-14 Notebook and cannot get the brightness systray app to function at all (systray icon does load). The screen is set to 100% brightness upon boot and I haven't discovered another way to adjust it. The PC105 US keyboard appears to be working properly and normally the F2 and F3 keys would control screen brightness on this notebook. The keys work properly on MX Xfce. I've searched through the forums with people struggling for a solution or workaround. I think this is a bug.

[dolphin_oracle]

I have an HP Stream-14 Notebook and cannot get the brightness systray app to function at all. The screen is set to 100% brightness upon boot and I haven't discovered another way to adjust it. The PC105 US keyboard appears to be working properly and normally the F2 and F3 keys would control screen brightness on this notebook. The keys work properly on MX Xfce.

if you would, try running

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/usr/lib/mx-tweak/backlight-brightness

in a terminal and see if you can adjust brightness that way.

also the output of

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ls /sys/class/backlight

might be useful.