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richb wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:45 am I am considering replacing MX 19.4 installed on old my Acer Inspiron laptop, i5 processor, when MX 21 goes final. Although MX 19.4 runs very well on it.

The problem I have with MX 21 is not with the O.S. but with some programs made in Python that work fine in MX 19.4, but can no longer be installed in MX 21. I will have to consider whether or not to switch.

Gerson wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:13 pm

richb wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:45 am I am considering replacing MX 19.4 installed on old my Acer Inspiron laptop, i5 processor, when MX 21 goes final. Although MX 19.4 runs very well on it.

The problem I have with MX 21 is not with the O.S. but with some programs made in Python that work fine in MX 19.4, but can no longer be installed in MX 21. I will have to consider whether or not to switch.

python2 is going the way of the dodo.

Gerson wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:13 pm The problem I have with MX 21 is not with the O.S. but with some programs made in Python that work fine in MX 19.4, but can no longer be installed in MX 21. I will have to consider whether or not to switch.

dolphin_oracle is absolutely right, this shouldn't be a surprise at this point as its a long time coming.

And we need to know which specific applications you're referring to in order to even attempt to address the issue.

Many python2 applications that their developers have migrated to python3 are already in the MX Repos, the ones that aren't have been abandoned by their developers, and will remain that way until someone forks and updates them.

The real solution is to know which applications are an issue and fix that problem, because sooner or later MX-19 won't be supported, and python2 isn't coming back.

dnkwins wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:27 pm Hi, do not want to create a new topic. Could please help me with installation of MX-21_KDE_beta2_x64.iso

GPT

sda1 EFI
sda2 BOOT
sda3 lvm on luks
home
root
swap
sda4 ntfs partition

After reboot


How to correct?

After some research I found that to run system in my case I need forcibly decrypt luks as follows
cryptsetup open /dev/sda3 any
exit
After that it starts, but it is fanny that it not gives splash to type pswd while boot.


I was need to update following files to boot normally

/etc/crypt-initramfs/conf-hook
CRYPTSETUP=y

/etc/crypttab
any /dev/sda3 none luks,initramfs

Then update initramfs
update-initramfs -c -k all

That's all folks.

Hi,
I wasn't able to manually modify Date & Time, nor select automatic date and time. For a reason, the "Apply" button was 'locked', despite the fact that the logged user is Administrator.
Never happened before with another Linux Distro.
BTW, MX KDE was a pleasant surprise.

hotchilli wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:43 am Hi,
I wasn't able to manually modify Date & Time, nor select automatic date and time. For a reason, the "Apply" button was 'locked', despite the fact that the logged user is Administrator.
Never happened before with another Linux Distro.
BTW, MX KDE was a pleasant surprise.

Did you use the date and time tool in MX Tools?

SwampRabbit wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:34 pm

Gerson wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:13 pm The problem I have with MX 21 is not with the O.S. but with some programs made in Python that work fine in MX 19.4, but can no longer be installed in MX 21. I will have to consider whether or not to switch.

dolphin_oracle is absolutely right, this shouldn't be a surprise at this point as its a long time coming.

And we need to know which specific applications you're referring to in order to even attempt to address the issue.

Many python2 applications that their developers have migrated to python3 are already in the MX Repos, the ones that aren't have been abandoned by their developers, and will remain that way until someone forks and updates them.

The real solution is to know which applications are an issue and fix that problem, because sooner or later MX-19 won't be supported, and python2 isn't coming back.

For me, Disk Manager is the biggest loss, it probably won't matter for people who don't have multiple systems on their computer, but I do! The gnome replacement is extremely fiddly, and its ability to set mount points and update /etc/fstab was not obvious to me when I tried it, in fact when I ran it I wasn't sure of what it was meant to do! And... I ended up making /etc/fstab by hand, and creating the mount point folders by hand, too!

KDE Partition Manager is much better, but still a bit fiddly, and it did update /etc/fstab correctly for me, but I still had to create the mount point folders by hand.

@davemx well Disk Manager is being worked, so no reason to beat that horse. I was bringing it up because people continue to be vague when it comes to abandoned python2 and gtk2 apps.

Nite Coder is working it, so really just have to wait, these things take time. I'm sure it will be great and most likely improved a lot since he is working on it.

In the meantime, there are replacements, so....

I'm not sure I would install Disk Manager on Plasma since we have KDE Partition Manager that pretty much does that, but for Xfce it would be great to have it.

When Disk Manager becomes available I will install it. I still find it easier to use the KDE Partition Manager. That is just a personal choice.