MX-23 RC3 (Xfce) Feedback thread

[Buck Fankers]

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Re: 16 Things to do after installing MX
3. Fire up synaptic and load about 30 programs (adds to maybe 240 packages with all dependencies) Such as audacity, k3b, ksnip, bleachbit, ripperx, handbrake, scid, stockfish, eboard, espeak....I really should automate this with aptik !
4. Run synaptic to get all updates [was only 7 packages]

Probably not that important, but it is my understanding, that generally best practice is, to always install programs after your system is fully updated. Just to be on a safe side. So I would switch the order of the two above and maybe add, after install of all packages, to run update one more time.

[argonaut459]

Good afternoon,
converted a USB-Stick with the latest ventoy. Checked integrity of the iso on the stick.
booted the laptop that had sound card issues ever since.

Happy news: sound works, but very very faint.
Sad news:
- Wifi adapter doesn't work - MX21 was one of the very few distros were this worked right out of box
- Microphone doesn't seem to work, says headset unplugged.
- can't run update, some files seem to be blocked.

attached a sysinfo zip with some of the logs, hope they show what happened.

QSI for the forum, cause it looks nice:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.3.0-2mx-ahs-amd64 [6.3.11-1~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash lang=de_DE kbd=de tz=Europe/Berlin
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23_ahs_RC3_x64 Libretto July 24  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: THOMSON product: GENEO14C-4WH128 v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Eii model: G116X1_1 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends
    v: E.G116X1_1_6.S4.E1.039 date: 07/28/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 26.3 Wh (86.5%) condition: 30.4/30.4 Wh (100.0%) volts: 7.6 min: N/A
    model: GLK MRD Li-ion Battery type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: discharging
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Celeron N4020 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Goldmont Plus level: v2 built: 2017
    process: Intel 14nm family: 6 model-id: 0x7A (122) stepping: 8 microcode: 0x16
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 112 KiB desc: d-2x24 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
    L2: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1492 min/max: 800/2800 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq governor: ondemand
    cores: 1: 1492 2: 1492 bogomips: 4377
  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel GeminiLake [UHD Graphics 600] driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9
    process: Intel 14n built: 2015-16 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1,HDMI-A-2
    bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:3185 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: icSpring camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-7:4 chip-ID: 32e6:9005
    class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: X:
    loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.21x7.99") s-diag: 414mm (16.31")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model-id: CS_ 0x5211 serial: <filter> built: 2013 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 67
    gamma: 1.2 size: 518x333mm (20.39x13.11") diag: 519mm (20.4") ratio: 3:2 modes: 1366x768
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 600 (GLK 2) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor High Definition Audio
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-apl alternate: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl, snd_sof_pci_intel_apl
    bus-ID: 00:0e.0 chip-ID: 8086:3198 class-ID: 0401
  API: ALSA v: k6.3.0-2mx-ahs-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Message: No PCI device data found.
  IF-ID-1: bnep0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek 802.11ac NIC type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:3 chip-ID: 0bda:c820
    class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.2
    sub-v: f098 hci-v: 4.2 rev: 75b8
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
    link-mode: peripheral accept service-classes: rendering, capturing, object transfer, audio,
    telephony
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 292.36 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
  ID-1: /dev/mmcblk1 maj-min: 179:0 vendor: Generic model: SLD128 size: 115.23 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0x8 scheme: GPT
  SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data.
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Intenso model: N/A size: 119.24 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 9A0 scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Verbatim model: STORE N GO size: 57.89 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  Message: No partition data found.
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 6 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2
    maj-min: 8:2
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 58.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2060 libs: 1047 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
    2: deb http://nl.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bookworm ahs
Info:
  Processes: 215 Uptime: 29m wakeups: 2 Memory: 3.65 GiB used: 2.03 GiB (55.5%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12 Client: shell wrapper
  v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

[fehlix]

Tried my first ever manual BTRFS install with RC3 on my device. I followed @dolphin_oracle 's youtube video in that I created a root and home subvolume in the BTRFS partition. In my install, I clicked "new layout", then "reset layout", then checked everything (swap, hibernate, standard snapshot), then I added a "/' and "home" subvolume to the BTRFS partition, which is also my only partition (I didn't create an EFI and swap partition).

Issues:

Timeshift fails to create any BTRFS snapshots.

Works for me, when booted in systemd.
MX-installer:
luks+btrfs+subvol:/@ ( root) , /@home /@swap

minstall-luks-btrfs-efi.jpg

Screensshot shows terminal with "lsblk -f" to list partitons
and timeshift created snapshot:

timeshift-luks-btrfs-systemd.jpg

Here's my QSI:

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System:
  Kernel: 6.3.0-2mx-ahs-amd64 [6.3.11-1~mx23ahs] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-6.3.0-2mx-ahs-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro
    rootflags=subvol=@ quiet splash resume=UUID= resume_offset=809951 init=/lib/systemd/systemd

Somthing seems missing with "resume=UUID=" needed for resume from hibernation.

[dolphin_oracle]

a btrfs snapshot will fail if there is an active swapfile. apparently.

[Willem52]

XFCE i386 ISO still does not boot correctly with Ventoy 1.0.93
64 bit XFCE & KDE boot OK

Can anyone else confirm that 32 bit ISOs of MX-linux boot on Ventoy and this is just my issue?

I cannot confirm the problem, but Ventoy has an update to 1.0.94,
otherwise you could try it with Rufus 4.2

[MXRobo]

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Re: 16 Things to do after installing MX
3. Fire up synaptic and load about 30 programs (adds to maybe 240 packages with all dependencies) Such as audacity, k3b, ksnip, bleachbit, ripperx, handbrake, scid, stockfish, eboard, espeak....I really should automate this with aptik !
4. Run synaptic to get all updates [was only 7 packages]

Probably not that important, but it is my understanding, that generally best practice is, to always install programs after your system is fully updated. Just to be on a safe side. So I would switch the order of the two above and maybe add, after install of all packages, to run update one more time.

Re # 3 above, I'd use Universal Package Installer first, then synaptic or MXPI.

[pbear]

a btrfs snapshot will fail if there is an active swapfile. apparently.

Wasn't accommodating Timeshift+btrfs the reason for switching from /swapfile to /swap/swap? That's what I recall someone (@AK-47?) saying a few days ago. If it still doesn't work - which would be a bug in Timeshift not MX - I'd suggest going back to the default /swapfile. Not an issue for me personally, as I'm fine making the change manually during installation. In fact, most of my systems use a swap partition (more efficient because they're multi-boot). Just seems to me it would be easier for users in general to have what they're likely to see described in articles on the internet. Again, a suggestion, not a bug.

[dolphin_oracle]

a btrfs snapshot will fail if there is an active swapfile. apparently.

Wasn't accommodating Timeshift+btrfs the reason for switching from /swapfile to /swap/swap? That's what I recall someone (@AK-47?) saying a few days ago. If it still doesn't work - which would be a bug in Timeshift not MX - I'd suggest going back to the default /swapfile. Not an issue for me personally, as I'm fine making the change manually during installation. In fact, most of my systems use a swap partition (more efficient because they're multi-boot). Just seems to me it would be easier for users in general to have what they're likely to see described in articles on the internet. Again, a suggestion, not a bug.

its a "feature" of btrfs snapshots, not really timeshift. the scenario of having an active swapfile on the partition to be snapshoted is just not supported by the btrfs file system tools. You *might* be able to put swap on a subvolume, never tried that.

I also just use a traditional swap partition.

[Melber]

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Re: 16 Things to do after installing MX
3. Fire up synaptic and load about 30 programs (adds to maybe 240 packages with all dependencies)
Such as audacity, k3b, ksnip, bleachbit, ripperx, handbrake, scid, stockfish, eboard, espeak....
I really should automate this with aptik !

Re # 3 above, I'd use Universal Package Installer first, then synaptic or MXPI.

Do you mean the MX tool User Installed Packages?

[fehlix]

a btrfs snapshot will fail if there is an active swapfile. apparently.

Hmm, I have an "active" swapfile.

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lsblk -f /dev/vdb
NAME   FSTYPE     FSVER LABEL      UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
vdb                                                                                    
├─vdb1                                                                                 
├─vdb2 vfat       FAT32 EFI-SYSTEM 0908-2208                             510.7M     0% /boot/efi
├─vdb3 ext4       1.0   BOOT       57378566-640d-4fd6-8505-161610023a5b  796.5M    11% /boot
└─vdb4 crypto_LUK 2                2ce85149-7558-4bd0-8f39-e8c9a708a450                
  └─luks-2ce85149-7558-4bd0-8f39-e8c9a708a450
       btrfs            BTRFS      51a2f439-7485-4900-b669-e6f6497c2ba8   13.8G    28% /swap
                                                                                       /home
                                                                                       /

which is on subvolume /@swap, and mounted under "/" root on /swap
timeshift mounts "/" top-subvolume when running
at /run/timeshift/2452/backup

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ls -al /run/timeshift/2452/backup/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 164 Jul 25 13:36 @
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root  12 Jul 25 13:33 @home
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root   8 Jul 25 13:33 @swap
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 210 Jul 25 17:54 timeshift-btrfs

And seems do work when booting with systemd:

timeshift-luks-btrfs-systemd-02.jpg

It fails when booting with SysVinit, b/c of this:

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lsblk -f /dev/vdb
NAME    FSTYPE      FSVER LABEL      UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
vdb                                                                                      
├─vdb1                                                                                   
├─vdb2  vfat        FAT32 EFI-SYSTEM 0908-2208                             510.7M     0% /boot/efi
├─vdb3  ext4        1.0   BOOT       57378566-640d-4fd6-8505-161610023a5b  796.5M    11% /boot
└─vdb4  crypto_LUKS 2                2ce85149-7558-4bd0-8f39-e8c9a708a450                
  └─luks-2ce85149-7558-4bd0-8f39-e8c9a708a450
                                                                            13.8G    28% /swap
                                                                                         /home
                                                                                         /

When running syvinit lsblk does not provide FSTYPE, LABEL and UUID, of the luks partitions.
Recent timshift fails b/c it heavily uses lsblk.
So, seems related to Debian "lsblk" or something within the system setup. .

Note: When running timeshift under "SysVInit" within chroot-rescue
from LiveUSB into the system lsblk works and timeshift also under SysVinit.
on a luks-encrypted btrfs-installed system .
Screenshot: [later here]