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Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:24 am
by radac
Now everything is fine, they say that it is 4 gigabytes swap folder means that this method is much better than swapfile???

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:48 am
by MadMax
/swapfile is a de facto standard for the location of the swapfile. Tools like Timeshift know about it and ignore it on backups. If you put it somewhere else or rename it you lose that advantage and you have to exclude it manually.

I don't really get what you mean by swap folder. There shouldn't be a folder.

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:53 am
by dolphin_oracle
berlin59 wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:47 am
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:35 pm sending up an updated installed to the package repo. There will be a better update later, but this one should allow installs to proceed when made from read-only media.
Sorry, dolphin_oracle,
the latest RC2 fails to create the desired partition. It ends up like the RC2 and RC1 with:

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2023-07-16 09:37:39.462 DBG default: SErr #10: "Error: Partition(s) 1 on /dev/sdc have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes.\n"
I created the live-usb-stick with dd to test it.
We know that creating the usb-live-stick with the MX Live Usb-Maker in full mode results in successfull installation on UEFI-PC.
that's with the updated installer? I didn't update the iso, just the installer.

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sudo apt update && sudo apt install mx-installer
while running live.

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:04 am
by radac
MadMax wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:48 am /swapfile is a de facto standard for the location of the swapfile. Tools like Timeshift know about it and ignore it on backups. If you put it somewhere else or rename it you lose that advantage and you have to exclude it manually.

I don't really get what you mean by swap folder. There shouldn't be a folder.
For me, after the installation of the new 23 version, a swap folder appears instead of a swapfile in the previous version 21, this was not the case, so that's why I'm asking if the change from swapfile to swap folder for me is novelty.

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:04 am
by dolphin_oracle
radac wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:04 am
MadMax wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:48 am /swapfile is a de facto standard for the location of the swapfile. Tools like Timeshift know about it and ignore it on backups. If you put it somewhere else or rename it you lose that advantage and you have to exclude it manually.

I don't really get what you mean by swap folder. There shouldn't be a folder.
For me, after the installation of the new 23 version, a swap folder appears instead of a swapfile in the previous version 21, this was not the case, so that's why I'm asking if the change from swapfile to swap folder is novelty.
the swapfile is in the folder

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:14 am
by radac
Ok thank you

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:03 am
by MadMax
Ah ok, so that's the issue. It's a weird choice to put the file in a folder by default. As I wrote before /swapfile is very common. It's a little like prefixing btrfs subvolumes with @. Then again, Fedora and RPM distros ignore that convention as well.

Swapfiles are easy enough to adjust (their great advantage in comparison to swap partitions), so that's ok by me.

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:03 am
by AlphaElwedritsch
i did the auto install
swap file is 99mb, see my qsi

Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 99 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:49 am
by Eadwine Rose
@AlphaElwedritsch I don't see your QSI in this post?

Re: MX-23 RC2 (Xfce) feedback thread

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:38 am
by berlin59
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:53 am
berlin59 wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:47 am
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:35 pm sending up an updated installed to the package repo. There will be a better update later, but this one should allow installs to proceed when made from read-only media.
Sorry, dolphin_oracle,
the latest RC2 fails to create the desired partition. It ends up like the RC2 and RC1 with:

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2023-07-16 09:37:39.462 DBG default: SErr #10: "Error: Partition(s) 1 on /dev/sdc have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes.\n"
I created the live-usb-stick with dd to test it.
We know that creating the usb-live-stick with the MX Live Usb-Maker in full mode results in successfull installation on UEFI-PC.
that's with the updated installer? I didn't update the iso, just the installer.

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sudo apt update && sudo apt install mx-installer
while running live.
I didn't know that I should update the installer in the live-session.
Sorry.
Since I have a working MX23 installation, I only create live-usb-sticks with the MX-tool to avoid such failures and misunderstandings.