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antiX-19 released

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:45 pm
by anticapitalista
Full announcement to come, but for the early birds, antiX-19 is here!

Various versions can be found here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix- ... /antiX-19/

Enjoy!

Full announcement: https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-isos-available/

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:57 pm
by Stevo
Congratulations!

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:58 pm
by darknetmatrix
nice, download is running

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:36 pm
by SwampRabbit
Congrats!

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:53 pm
by Moltke
Nice! Downloading! Congrats! :happy:

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:46 am
by KoO
Big Thanks to everyone involved.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:54 am
by Eadwine Rose
Congrats! :)

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:01 am
by Malanrich
Got it.

I'm soooo looking forward to firing this up.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:44 am
by Huckleberry Finn
Congratulations and thanks to all Team and to everyone involved with feedbacks.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:53 pm
by dreamer
Congratulations. Should have been featured on Distrowatch, but maybe will show up later.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:54 pm
by manyroads
Downloaded and re-configured with BunsenLabs Lithium. Runs nicely on my old clunker.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:29 pm
by Moltke
anticapitalista wrote: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:45 pm Full announcement to come, but for the early birds, antiX-19 is here!

Various versions can be found here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix- ... /antiX-19/

Enjoy!

Full announcement: https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-isos-available/
Just so you know, there's a typo in the release announcement page regarding the base's .ISO size where reads 7000 MB instead of 700MB, I know people will probably catch on that just like I did but still. :happy:
BTW, is there an upgrade path from antiX 19.b3 to 19 final?

Image

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:09 am
by rasat
I installed antiX 19 base, Gnome and changed to lightdm. Everything works fine. Before base, I tested core with same installs... its is great!!

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:07 am
by anticapitalista
Moltke wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:29 pm
Just so you know, there's a typo in the release announcement page regarding the base's .ISO size where reads 7000 MB instead of 700MB, I know people will probably catch on that just like I did but still. :happy:
BTW, is there an upgrade path from antiX 19.b3 to 19 final?

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Thanks - and fixed.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:54 pm
by Huckleberry Finn
Excuse me, but on both Distrowatch and antiX page it looks a bit confusing :

Distrowatch:

19 which is based on Debian 10 "Buster" and uses SysV init instead of Debian's default systemd init software. The distribution's release announcement lists the changes available in antiX 19: "Based on Debian Stretch, but without systemd and libsystemd0...

and on https://antixlinux.com/antix-19-isos-available/ :

antiX-19 isos available.
October 17, 2019 by anticapitalista
antiX-19 Marielle Franco released

antiX-19 is based on Debian Buster and systemd-free.
...
So what is included?

Lots! Explore!

* Based on Debian Stretch, but without systemd and libsystemd0.
* eudev (3.2...

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:20 pm
by anticapitalista
antiX-19 is based on Debian Buster -thanks for the fix -done now.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:08 am
by Kulmbacher

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:16 pm
by namida12
Can I just update from Beta 3, or is a new install recommended?

JR

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:26 am
by anticapitalista
A new install is recommended.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:37 am
by JayM
Another possible errata, or at least a source of confusion:
Connect to the net with:

* connman – *NEW* default on full and base editions
* gnome-ppp – for those still on dial-up
* ceni – default for core and base editions
Both conman and ceni are the default network connection manager on base editions?

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:39 am
by anticapitalista
JayM wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:37 am Another possible errata:
Connect to the net with:

* connman – *NEW* default on full and base editions
* gnome-ppp – for those still on dial-up
* ceni – default for core and base editions
Thanks - corrected.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:11 am
by rasat
After having technical problems with my machine and now /home is rebuilt, I am able to evaluate this release. Re-installed the base, installed gnome + kde apps, and removed few apps not using. Without saying, works well with fast and snappy respond. Did a change, to have a bit more "classic" login manager for Gnome. :) Replaced Slim with lightdm + new wallpaper.
http://amurt.ro/download/antix/antix-wa ... -login.jpg

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:49 am
by rasat
In antiX19-base, StatCounter web hit number does not work in web browser (Chromium, Firefox, etc.). In core the number is visible. There is a config or package difference between base and core.
http://amurt.ro/download/antix/StatCounter-error.jpg

In core there is a missing font package.
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=53850

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:04 am
by BitJam
rasat wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:49 amIn core there is a missing font package.
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=53850
Since core does not have an X server why should it have fonts for X? It seems reasonable that if someone wants to install a X server then they should also install fonts for it. Am I missing something?

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:28 am
by rasat
With core, after installing large number of software (xorg, Gnome, Libreoffice, Scribus, Dolphin, Gimp, etc.), which add many type of fonts, it will be difficult to realise that there is a missing font package (causing character error). Didn't expect Dejavu, which supposed to be auto installed by other graphic packages. Or, why should a system be depend on Dejavu when xorg is installed??

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:30 am
by BitJam
rasat wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:28 am With core, after installing large number of software (xorg, Gnome, Libreoffice, Scribus, Dolphin, Gimp, etc.), which add many type of fonts, it will be difficult to realise that there is a missing font package (causing character error). Didn't expect Dejavu, which supposed to be auto installed by other graphic packages. Or, why should a system be depend on Dejavu when xorg is installed??
This is a problem when you build your system from scratch (or from core). IMO weighing down core with X fonts is not a good solution to this problem. Perhaps we can have something in the package installer that makes it easy to remember and install the Dejavu fonts or perhaps we could bundle them in when the X server is installed.

Oh. We should probably add this to our command line package installer, cli-aptiX. Have you tried it? It has a list of suggested GUI packages but the X server is not on that list. Perhaps we can come up with a set of packages for installing an X server and associated packages like the dejavu fonts.

You could even play with this yourself by editing the file /usr/local/share/cli-aptiX/suggested/gui.list. The format should be fairly clear. Maybe add an "X Server" category. If you come up with a better gui.list, I'd be glad to use it. Currently we don't have a "meta"package mechanism now so non-comment line in the file corresponds to just one package. I could probably come up with a meta mechanism if it would be really useful. We could also add another list like x-server.list for installing an x-server and related packages.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:45 am
by dolphin_oracle
Don't forget that mx and antix do not pull in "reccommends" by defualt when using apt tools.

Using --install-recommends switch with apt will do the behavior that debian defaults too, and bring in a lot of things like fonts and extra packages that whike nice are really required for apps to run

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:01 am
by anticapitalista
BitJam wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:30 am

Oh. We should probably add this to our command line package installer, cli-aptiX. ...
I have made lots of additions to the suggested/gui file in the latest version. But no fonts (yet)

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:03 pm
by BitJam
anticapitalista wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 7:01 amI have made lots of additions to the suggested/gui file in the latest version. But no fonts (yet)
Excellent! Maybe we could add a 3rd x-server.list suggestion file.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:14 am
by azrielle
The house I am living in has a very good wifi box hooked up to Hughes satellite dish. It is set up with a ssid name, and NO ENCRYPTION, because the house is 15 miles from the nearest town, and therefore is not needed. MX-19, and every other distro I've tried it with finds it and connects with alacrity. AntiX 18.4.1 works great with it using ceni.
AntiX 19's connman is f*****g worthless, useless as tits on a boar hog. I have tried everything, including trying to set it up from the command line (connmanctl). The gui accepts the ssid (DarkCloud2 to be exact) but essentially demands a passphrase, which is nonexistent. I am truly sorry, but divestiture of ceni and wicd are deal breakers. Breaks my heart, and pisses me off at the same time.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:32 am
by Jerry3904
I don't get it: why not install ceni if it works? When I travel with antiX I always have ceni as the backup.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:30 am
by sunrat
From siduction's lead developer:
ceni is dead, can't handle the new device naming scheme.
I guess if you still have eth0, wlan0 etc. it should be ok.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:41 am
by azrielle
what I have a problem with is I don't have physical access to a wired Ethernet connection--just wifi, so I can't get ceni! Much less install it. I need it on the live iso--instead of connman. the current live antiX19 iso does not contain either ceni or wicd--just connman. Which royally sucks.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:05 am
by anticapitalista
The real issue is not whether antiX-19 full/base ships with ceni and/or wicd, but that connman isn't working for you when it should be.
How about starting a thread on that? Give details of what you have done.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:05 pm
by azrielle

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:10 pm
by namida12
Can't use synaptic in live mode?

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  inxi -F
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.193-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.5.5+git20190610 
           Distro: antiX-19_x64-full Marielle Franco 16 October 2019 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: BM2AD_D510MT_D310MT v: Rev X.0x serial: <root required> BIOS: ASUSTeK v: 0701 
           date: 11/27/2014 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-4160 bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           Speed: 3600 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3600 2: 2002 3: 2040 4: 1700 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 4th Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.193-antix.1-amd64-smp 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: f0:79:59:39:f3:57 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 480.29 GiB used: 1.12 GiB (0.2%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0 size: 465.76 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 14.53 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 2.96 GiB used: 2.5 MiB (0.1%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102    <-------- error code?  This system
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Info:      Processes: 162 Uptime: N/A Memory: 3.74 GiB used: 191.6 MiB (5.0%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.36 
demo@antix1:~
I can boot from USB Stick, but can not install to this system - Have turned off secureboot and it appears I am running in UEFI mode, but can't install in UEFI mode.

Running live and can not run Synaptic to update?
Release file for http://security.debian.org/dists/buster ... /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 4h 47min 51s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.Release file for http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/b ... /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 2h 19min 45s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
JR

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:02 pm
by namida12
I am stumped:

I installed antix 19 into the Desktop : ASUSTeK BM2AD_D510MT_D310MT v: Rev X.0x BIOS: ASUSTeK v: 0701 date: 11/27/2014.

Can not boot system after install.

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 inxi -F
System:    Host: antix3 Kernel: 4.9.193-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.6.3+git20191202 
           Distro: antiX-19_x64-full Marielle Franco 16 October 2019 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: BM2AD_D510MT_D310MT v: Rev X.0x serial: <root required> 
           BIOS: ASUSTeK v: 0701 date: 11/27/2014 
CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-4160 bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
           Speed: 805 MHz min/max: 800/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 805 2: 1479 3: 1595 4: 1106 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 4th Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.193-antix.1-amd64-smp 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: f0:79:59:39:f3:57 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 480.67 GiB used: 5.77 GiB (1.2%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0 size: 465.76 GiB 
           ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Glide size: 14.91 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 14.70 GiB used: 4.06 GiB (27.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
           ID-2: /home size: 437.02 GiB used: 283.4 MiB (0.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Info:      Processes: 179 Uptime: 2h 30m Memory: 3.74 GiB used: 189.1 MiB (4.9%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.36 
green607@antix3:~

I can add the live media (USB stick) and boot the hard drive install and not the live mode. Without the flash stick have no way to boot the installed version.
I do not know if i have a UEFI version running or bios version grub install option was to install to root.

JR

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:31 pm
by BitJam
namida12 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:10 pm Can't use synaptic in live mode?
[...]Running live and can not run Synaptic to update?
Release file for http://security.debian.org/dists/buster ... /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 4h 47min 51s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.Release file for http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/b ... /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 2h 19min 45s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
This can happen if you don't set the time correctly on the system (live or not). The system thinks the updates are in the future. Unfortunately, due to a horrendous bug in the kernel we leave ntpd disabled on the live system so you need to set the time manually. Or you could try again in 5 hours.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:34 pm
by asqwerth
If you didn't install grub to mbr and only installed to root, there's nothing being found there by the system for booting.

Your set up looks to be legacy mbr boot. The fat32 partition isn't flagged as esp, after all.

You might be able to run mx boot repair from live mx USB, and write the grub found on root partition (sda2) onto the mbr of /dev/sda. (no number after "sda")

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:39 pm
by BitJam
namida12 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:10 pmI can boot from USB Stick, but can not install to this system - Have turned off secureboot and it appears I am running in UEFI mode, but can't install in UEFI mode.
I can't tell for sure from the inxi -F output if you booted UEFI (others might be able to). If this command succeeds and shows files then you have booted UEFI:

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ls /sys/firmware/efi
If you did not boot UEFI, that would explain why you can't install UEFI. If you did boot UEFI then one of the installer devs can try to help you with installing UEFI.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:46 am
by JayM

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BIOS: ASUSTeK v: 0701 date: 11/27/2014 
looks like legacy BIOS, otherwise it would say UEFI.

Grub needs to be installed in the MBR on legacy BIOS computer systems. You can fix that by booting your live media and running Applications -> System -> Boot Repair and reinstalling grub to the MBR (Master Boot Record.)

Edit: I may be wrong. It may be a UEFI system after all, from looking at the pictures of the "Configuring the USB ports using the BIOS" section of the manual:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/Desk ... _E9646.pdf
It could be that Asus is just calling it BIOS. I don't know. But the images don't look like 8-bit color to me, which is all that legacy BIOS supports IIRC.

Edit 2: Looking at that image in the manual at a higher zoom, I see now that it says "UEFI BIOS."

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:03 am
by namida12
BitJam wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 11:39 pm
namida12 wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:10 pmI can boot from USB Stick, but can not install to this system - Have turned off secureboot and it appears I am running in UEFI mode, but can't install in UEFI mode.
I can't tell for sure from the inxi -F output if you booted UEFI (others might be able to). If this command succeeds and shows files then you have booted UEFI:

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ls /sys/firmware/efi
If you did not boot UEFI, that would explain why you can't install UEFI. If you did boot UEFI then one of the installer devs can try to help you with installing UEFI.

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$ ls /sys/firmware/efi
ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory


Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:20 am
by BitJam
namida12 wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:03 am

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$ ls /sys/firmware/efi
ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory
This confirms what JayM saw in your inxi output (reading comprehension fail on my part). You booted the live system in Legacy (BIOS) mode. This makes it impossible to install in UEFI mode. Our live system supports secure boot, in case that helps. You may need to change the boot mode from Legacy BIOS to UEFI in order to boot the live system in UEFI so you can then install UEFI.

Some of my machines let me choose Legacy and UEFI bootloaders in the BIOS/UEFI bootloader menu. But other machines will only show Legacy bootloaders or UEFI bootloaders in the bootloader menu depending on the settings.

I'm sorry about the added hurdle. It's not our idea. UEFI is set up so you can only install UEFI if you booted UEFI.

On our live system, one easy way to tell if you've boot Legacy or UEFI is the Function Key menus at the bottom of the screen. Those Function Key menus only show up in our live legacy bootloader. The live UEFI bootloader is standard Grub2.

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:41 am
by JayM
See https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/uefi/ and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLFUZ6LtqiE.

Edit: especially the video! Sounds like Dolphin Oracle once experienced the same thing you are and he shows you what to look for in your UEFI settings to force booting in UEFI-only so you can install antiX in UEFI mode. (You have to boot the USB as UEFI to install as UEFI otherwise you can only install in legacy, which sounds a lot like what you experienced.)

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:46 am
by Eadwine Rose
Moi post now here: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=54917

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:00 pm
by Moltke
antiX 19 on KDE's plasma desktop; 352mb on boot! It runs smoothly, guys on KDE community are doing good.

https://imgur.com/C18l47c

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:21 am
by anticapitalista
Moltke wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:00 pm antiX 19 on KDE's plasma desktop; 352mb on boot! It runs smoothly, guys on KDE community are doing good.

https://imgur.com/C18l47c
Seems like you are running live with persistence (which makes the RAM use even more impressive). Frugal or on a usb device?

Re: antiX-19 released

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:10 am
by Moltke
anticapitalista wrote: Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:21 am
Moltke wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:00 pm antiX 19 on KDE's plasma desktop; 352mb on boot! It runs smoothly, guys on KDE community are doing good.

https://imgur.com/C18l47c
Seems like you are running live with persistence (which makes the RAM use even more impressive). Frugal or on a usb device?
On a usb device with static persistence. Yes, indeed. I thought of trying given all the fuss on the web about plasma been lighter and so far I'm really impressed the way it behaves and response; fast! In the past I avoided it because 1, it was too heavy and 2, I found it overwhelming and tiresome with so many options, menus and sub-menus to do simple tasks but that's changed as well, it still requires some learning but it seems to me to a lesser degree. I have another usb with antiX too but running XFCE and ram usage is a bit bigger, 450mb on boot which makes it even more impressive, like I said, those guys on the KDE community are doing really good. BTW, I used the core x64 iso image. I installed kde-plasma-desktop which doesn't install all the KDE stuff but basic ones only plus a few other/neccesary packages: powerdevil, systemsettings, kmenuedit, kde-runtime, ksysguard, kwin-x11, plasma-browser-integration and of course all X related packages. :happy: