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Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:12 pm
by wulf
I don't think the guy is trolling, but a quick Google will show that he moved to Antergos last week. Well, I haven't tried removing MX tools, but looking through the package manager, it seems as though you have the option to uninstall individual tools in theory. As for the Icon appearance, I've had no trouble customising the heck out of MX. I used Adwaita dark theme, with Adwaita Icons, but I replaced some of those by right clicking on an application Icon, selecting properties, and pointing it to an Icon of my own design, and it then displays that, instead, when I launch the whisker menu and shows the Icon on the panel when I drag it onto there. Once I have the system looking how I like it, I do a snapshot and burn it to a USB stick. As long as those icons are stored somewhere in the home folder and you select "preserve home" when reinstalling from the snapshot, things should stay the same. ..Here is one example of a self made Icon I just knocked-up in Pinta for the whisker menu button as an example. Graphically, nothing special, but containing a few subtle references of homage to the Mepis origin. Of course, you can also download an image of choice and use that as an icon as long as it will scale ok to 48x48 or 50x50 pixels. One application I don't use, ( or maybe I do, but not consciously), is Image Magick. Now that really does have a horrible GUI, ( in my opinion ),and looks like something from Windows 95 era. Good luck in trying to remove that without breaking your system as it appears to have multiple hooks.

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:33 pm
by timkb4cq
But the imagemagick libraries are very versatile and efficient so a bunch of applications depend on them. Libreoffice, Calibre, Fotoxx, mozplugger, gscan2pdf, inkscape just to list a few. Just because its GUI isn't very good doesn't mean it's not useful.

And if people want to submit icons for the various MX-Tools consistent with other theme-sets that we package we'll be glad to consider adding them.

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:29 pm
by wulf
timkb4cq wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:33 pm But the imagemagick libraries are very versatile and efficient so a bunch of applications depend on them. Libreoffice, Calibre, Fotoxx, mozplugger, gscan2pdf, inkscape just to list a few. Just because its GUI isn't very good doesn't mean it's not useful.

And if people want to submit icons for the various MX-Tools consistent with other theme-sets that we package we'll be glad to consider adding them.
I kinda guessed that might be the case with ImageMagick. I cited it as the only gui/icon example that I could agree about with the op. Aside from the tweaks I make to personalise the look of my desktop, I'm entirely happy with the overall appearance and performance of MX. It's a great Job you folks did. Thanks

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:44 pm
by asqwerth
if people want to submit icons for the various MX-Tools consistent with other theme-sets that we package we'll be glad to consider adding them.
Another way is to make requests of the devs of a particular icon set you like. Eg Eric Dubois and his Sardi sets has done it of his own accord , or the first dev who ever did this, ZMA, from around the time of mx16.

ZMA started symlinking some of his already existing icons to appropriate mx apps when mx-tweaks was still called mx-defaultlooks.

That of course means though that you don't get original artwork for the MX-Tools or mx-tweaks icons, just generic "tools" or "tweaks" icons. But they would match the icon set that is applied.

If you would like icons that are specific to these mx apps, make specific requests of the icon devs, or create your own and offer them to the dev or this community.

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:35 pm
by skidoo
One application I don't use, ( or maybe I do, but not consciously), is Image Magick. Now that really does have a horrible GUI
AFAIK, imagemagick has no gui. If you are referring to "graphicsmagick", uninstalling that should be no problem ~~ not much depends on it, aside from "webmagick" (which you'll probably never choose to install).

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:30 am
by azrielle
Methinks what he REALLY wants is an "MX-base" distro, probably with KDE enabled instead of Xfce, and not much else, and an MX-PI subcategory of the individual tools and applications, so that one can cherry pick them after installation. Which seems like a lot more work for the unpaid MX Dev Team, for a VERY marginal return on "investment".

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:32 am
by Adrian
Adrian wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:14 am
but you still cant remove ANY MX apps because you try one and there goes all of them
That seems incorrect, if you remove a MX app it might remove a mx-apps metapackage, but it will not remove all the apps. What MX app do you want to remove? I'm asking to check if there's an error in dependency list...

(It would also be nice if people would not pile up and let the OP respond to questions...)
I'm waiting for a response.

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:17 pm
by Stevo
Don't hold your breath, as I'm pretty sure that statement is dead wrong.

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:29 pm
by clicktician
skidoo wrote: Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:35 pm
One application I don't use, ( or maybe I do, but not consciously), is Image Magick. Now that really does have a horrible GUI
AFAIK, imagemagick has no gui. If you are referring to "graphicsmagick", uninstalling that should be no problem ~~ not much depends on it, aside from "webmagick" (which you'll probably never choose to install).
It doesn't?

This is my launcher for imagemagic "/usr/bin/display-im6.q16 -nostdin %F". Is that graphicsmagic? (A sincere question).

When it launches, you right-click to summon the context menu, and it is that ancient Xwin decor that I used to think was cool back in my Sun Workstation days.
Huh. I don't have graphicsmagic installed, so I don't know where that UI could be coming from.

Re: Freedom is the key to success with any distro

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:09 pm
by sunrat
clicktician wrote: Wed Dec 26, 2018 5:29 pmThis is my launcher for imagemagic "/usr/bin/display-im6.q16 -nostdin %F". Is that graphicsmagic? (A sincere question).
display is the image viewer command for ImageMagick, a single command among the many IM functions. It is not a GUI for IM as it doesn't facilitate any processing of the displayed image.