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Re: MX-18
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:48 pm
by log
Richard wrote: Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:48 pm
A stable base is appreciated when doing things that might break it.
It is easier to return to a stable base --via a snapshot from a know good state.
You hit the nail on the head for why I find it so appealing, despite preferring the kde ecosystem over gnome.
Re: MX-18
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:21 am
by Pierre
yet, most folks would be expecting an MX-18 release, this year,
& rather than an extension of the existing MX-17 snapshot.
those of us, in the know, would simply just download an later snapshot,
where some other users, would be looking for an MX-18 to be the later release.
it may just be a numbers thing, but that is what would be expected, in the wider Linux community.
Re: MX-18
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:42 am
by Gordon Cooper
Two things must be considered here:
1. Is there s genuine need to release a version 18 this year? Have been enough changes to warrant a new version ?
2. More important. MX is developed by unpaid volunteers for the benefit of many. They have also to live their private, family lives. Which has priority??
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing.
Re: MX-18
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:27 am
by marlowe221
Pierre wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:21 am
yet, most folks would be expecting an MX-18 release, this year,
& rather than an extension of the existing MX-17 snapshot.
those of us, in the know, would simply just download an later snapshot,
where some other users, would be looking for an MX-18 to be the later release.
it may just be a numbers thing, but that is what would be expected, in the wider Linux community.
So how does it work? Can you update to a later snapshot? Or do you install from scratch?
Re: MX-18
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:41 am
by chrispop99
marlowe221 wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:27 am
So how does it work? Can you update to a later snapshot? Or do you install from scratch?
Snapshots are the current release with all the updates added. If you update the current version, you will already be aligned with the latest snapshot.
There will be an upgrade path across versions
unless the Debian version has changed.
Chris
Re: MX-18
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:12 pm
by Stevo
Maybe providing GIMP 2.10.6 by default could be a feature of a new point release, since it updates a couple of important system libraries used by many other applications. We need to make sure it doesn't break font rendering for anyone, though.
Re: MX-18
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:14 pm
by dolphin_oracle
Stevo wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:12 pm
Maybe providing GIMP 2.10.6 by default could be a feature of a new point release, since it updates a couple of important system libraries used by many other applications. We need to make sure it doesn't break font rendering for anyone, though.
I'm ok as long as it goes OK with a regular dist-upgrade.
Re: MX-18
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 4:33 pm
by zorzi
Why not providing a newer kernel in a potential 17.2 release ? Kernel 4.15 looks outdated in terms of security.
Re: MX-18
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:17 pm
by sdibaja
I trust Debian for security. Stretch now uses
4.9.0-7 4.9.0-8 and it is current with all security patches.
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/linux-image-amd64
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Re: MX-18
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:28 pm
by Richard
the Debian backport kernel:
4.18.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 gives the following summary result of mitigations from the spectre-meltdown-checker, on the T430 :
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> SUMMARY: CVE-2017-5753:OK CVE-2017-5715:OK CVE-2017-5754:OK CVE-2018-3640:OK CVE-2018-3639:OK CVE-2018-3615:OK CVE-2018-3620:OK CVE-2018-3646:OK
And it runs fine without problems. I don't use Suspension on my SSD so don't know about that.