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Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 3:17 am
by Freja
Stevo wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 8:41 pm :frown: I don't know if anyone has reported VLC losing hardware accelerated decoding and encoding in Bookworm, but that seems to be unavoidable with the Debian packages.
5.2.3. Limited hardware-accelerated video encoding/decoding support in VLC

The VLC video player supports hardware-accelerated video decoding and encoding via VA-API and VDPAU. However, VLC's support for VA-API is tightly related to the version of FFmpeg. Because FFmpeg was upgraded to the 5.x branch, VLC's VA-API support has been disabled. Users of GPUs with native VA-API support (e.g., Intel and AMD GPUs) may experience high CPU usage during video playback and encoding.

Users of GPUs offering native VDPAU support (e.g., NVIDIA with non-free drivers) are not affected by this issue.

Support for VA-API and VDPAU can be checked with vainfo and vdpauinfo (each provided in a Debian package of the same name).
(This case is at my "Intel" machine.)
I usually using SMplayer (not VLC), VA-API is not working in MX-23 beta2,
Instead of "gpu-next" worked very well. I think it will be a replacement.
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Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:40 am
by wizardfromoz
Regarding my Previous on How to Disable os-prober:

I have done further work on this, and thank you, the advice on

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sudo dpgk-reconfigure grub-pc
works fine.

That being acknowledged, this statement from @fehlix
Debian did some changes to always have disabled os prober during GRUB upgrade by default.
is at odds with the reality, in my experience.

I have Debian Bookworm, Cinnamon, and a part of its /etc/default/grub reads as follows

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GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
# OS_PROBER re-enabled by Debian Calamares installation:
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false
... and os-prober works fine with that, so Calamares appears to have detected I am a multi-booter and adjusted for that.

No offence to mx-installer (which I have used for years), but once again - mx-tools? A mention in the final release notes? and so on would help.

Cheers

Wizard

Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:44 am
by i_ri
hello dolphin_oracle and everyone
mx23_fluxbox is headed to distro of the decade.
Hello Melber
fluxbox Style MX-comfort
A Wonderful Style.
personalizing;
Made three rows of color at the top of maximize-pressed.xpm to
match the three rows of color in maximize-active.xpm.
Likewise all "pressed" buttons changed to color top three rows if active color.
Our X flashes red on the close-pressed.xpm.
Dot red for stick-toggled-active.xpm.


mxing with the maximize button.

Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:13 am
by fehlix
wizardfromoz wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:40 am Regarding my Previous on How to Disable os-prober:

I have done further work on this, and thank you, the advice on

Code: Select all

sudo dpgk-reconfigure grub-pc
works fine.

That being acknowledged, this statement from @fehlix
Debian did some changes to always have disabled os prober during GRUB upgrade by default.
is at odds with the reality, in my experience.

I have Debian Bookworm, Cinnamon, and a part of its /etc/default/grub reads as follows

Code: Select all

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""

# If your computer has multiple operating systems installed, then you
# probably want to run os-prober. However, if your computer is a host
# for guest OSes installed via LVM or raw disk devices, running
# os-prober can cause damage to those guest OSes as it mounts
# filesystems to look for things.
# OS_PROBER re-enabled by Debian Calamares installation:
GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false
... and os-prober works fine with that, so Calamares appears to have detected I am a multi-booter and adjusted for that.

No offence to mx-installer (which I have used for years), but once again - mx-tools? A mention in the final release notes? and so on would help.

Cheers

Wizard
It's about grub-package upgrade, where grub-install may be triggered, and potentically a debconf popup window is shown to the user , which by the way can happen als in UEFI install. Debian has disabled to run os-probe by default,
and people may face the situation to not find any menu entry for other installs within the generated grub menu. Even in UEFI-install the grub-pc upgrade may be triggerd if user, eg. installed also onto mbr. To avoid this potential show stopper, the place (to define to/set disable/enable os-prober) was moved into debconf.

Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:45 am
by Arnox
Hey, I'm going to download and install the beta now on some bare metal. Would you guys like me to report bugs in this thread or is it preferred to use the official bug tracker?

Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:08 am
by j2mcgreg
Arnox wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:45 am Hey, I'm going to download and install the beta now on some bare metal. Would you guys like me to report bugs in this thread or is it preferred to use the official bug tracker?
Please do it here.

Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:28 am
by Arnox
j2mcgreg wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 9:08 am
Arnox wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:45 am Hey, I'm going to download and install the beta now on some bare metal. Would you guys like me to report bugs in this thread or is it preferred to use the official bug tracker?
Please do it here.
Sounds good. Will report back as soon as I can.

Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:46 am
by andy
Hello @fehlix,
can I rest assured, that the LUKS+BTRFS+Timeshift trio will operate in next beta or RC? Is it planned to fix?
Rougly at what time can we expect next install media iteration?
If the fix will not come in the next iteration, is there any possibility to properly prepare LUKS+BTRFS manually from live session just before install, to achieve proper operation of the trio?
And if yes - will the next iteration's "defaults" be compatible with RC, therefore can I install it and consider it after upgrade the same "quality" as RC or final?
I am eager to try and play with the new bookworm, (to replace bullseye on my not-so-important portable machine), but I do not want to do all the hassle of customizing again after final comes out.

Thank you for your answers and for effort of all the team for making this version real. :number1:

Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:05 am
by fehlix
andy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:46 am Hello @fehlix,
can I rest assured, that the LUKS+BTRFS+Timeshift trio will operate in next beta or RC?
No. B/c it has first to be fixed. And don't think next release will debend on this issue been fixed or not.
andy wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:46 am Is it planned to fix?
Maybe when we find time and see how to fix the showstopper.

Re: MX-23 beta 2 feedback thread

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2023 11:07 am
by siamhie
@Jerry3904 Seems About Fluxbox is not installed. I still have About MX Linux (system) and About Me (settings).

fluxbox-about.jpg


*Edit: Just found the package in MXPI. Seems the package doesn't get installed from the ISO.