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Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:05 pm
by jj1j1
Did you log out and in again?
No. That was without logging out.

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:24 pm
by richb
Eadwine Rose wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:15 pm I'll try this out sometime tomorrow. Thanks Rich!

And thank you too Ghost67


That is quite different from the "old" way.
It is and not obvious at all.

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:44 pm
by Ghost67
richb wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:24 pm
Eadwine Rose wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:15 pm I'll try this out sometime tomorrow. Thanks Rich!

And thank you too Ghost67


That is quite different from the "old" way.
It is and not obvious at all.
I'm curious as to whether there is still any way ('under the hood' so to speak) to add transparency to a panel that uses the system style for its colouring?
It has to still be there somewhere, right?

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:56 pm
by richb
Ghost67 wrote:I'm curious as to whether there is still any way ('under the hood' so to speak) to add transparency to a panel that uses the system style for its colouring?
It has to still be there somewhere, right?
I am not sure it has to be there. The result would be the same. Would it not?

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:08 pm
by Ghost67
richb wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:56 pm
Ghost67 wrote:I'm curious as to whether there is still any way ('under the hood' so to speak) to add transparency to a panel that uses the system style for its colouring?
It has to still be there somewhere, right?
I am not sure it has to be there. The result would be the same. Would it not?
I guess so. Using the eyedropper tool and transparency slider.

(I've edited here): Originally I suggested that 4.12 could add transparency to the panel if an image was used for the background, but testing on MX-18 says I was wrong :)
So I guess we pretty much have the same functionality in 4.14 that we had in 4.12 - just a different GUI.

Cheers Richb.

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:23 pm
by dreamer
Ghost67 wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:44 pm
richb wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:24 pm
Eadwine Rose wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:15 pm I'll try this out sometime tomorrow. Thanks Rich!

And thank you too Ghost67


That is quite different from the "old" way.
It is and not obvious at all.
I'm curious as to whether there is still any way ('under the hood' so to speak) to add transparency to a panel that uses the system style for its colouring?
It has to still be there somewhere, right?
I don't think so. If there was it wouldn't have been removed from Settings Manager? Maybe it's possible to achieve a similar result by using Solid Color option and Alpha Slider in Color chooser. Maybe Xfce devs thought it was redundant?

You found one of the very few regressions in Xfce 4.14.

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:26 pm
by richb
Not a regression. Just a different way to do it.

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:42 pm
by dreamer
richb wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:26 pm Not a regression. Just a different way to do it.
Alpha slider has been removed from "system style".

System Style - Alpha present in 4.12 but NOT in 4.14
Solid Color - Alpha present in both 4.12 and 4.14
Panel background - Alpha was never an option, transparency dictated by the image file.

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:58 pm
by richb
Post #367. Gives the same effect as alpha.If the end result is the same I do not see it as a regression. But whatever.

Re: MX-19 Beta 1 Feedback

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:17 pm
by dolphin_oracle
BTW since the color and transparency are specified together as a color, it's possible for gtk themes to provide a panel that has some transparency, as it does with greybird, without messing with the panel settings themselves.