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SwampRabbit wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:20 am Tim’s the repo man (wizard) not me.

I ain’t even brave enough to be doing what ya’ll doing in here.

You package AHS. If anyone could package an advanced version of plasma and keep it running on stable MX, it would be you.

andyprough wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:38 am You package AHS. If anyone could package an advanced version of plasma and keep it running on stable MX, it would be you.

I don't know about that either, I think Stevo is the person for that task too.

SwampRabbit wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:45 am

andyprough wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:38 am You package AHS. If anyone could package an advanced version of plasma and keep it running on stable MX, it would be you.

I don't know about that either, I think Stevo is the person for that task too.

No, backporting every one of the hundreds of packages required for an up-to-date plasma desktop is too big a job for anyone, it wouldn't be fair at all to ask you or Stevo or anyone to do that. It's absolutely amazing what Norbert was able to do by himself to push it along to work on Sid and Testing. He did all the packaging, hosted his own repos, did the bug squashing for a growing community of people that were using his packages. He's been doing the work of a whole large team this past year. It's a very good thing that the Debian KDE team has finally started working together with him these past few months.

I think that if it is simply a matter of writing an apt pinning file for the hundreds of plasma packages for /etc/apt/preferences.d and keeping it up to date against Norbert's repos, and that MX could update that file through the normal apt update process, then eventually I or Dan could do that. I think we've proven through this experiment on this thread that it's possible to cautiously and painstakingly keep a plasma desktop up to date on MX 19, without breaking anything essential. This assumes several things, including the idea that Norbert or the Debian KDE team will want to continue to package the latest plasma packages. I'm not sure Norbert's going to be interested in continuing to do that over the long run. Maybe the Debian KDE folks will decide they want to keep up with the most recent packages in Sid/Testing.

MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:24 am

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

I noticed Norbert was blogging about that yesterday: https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/02/ ... 021-02-18/

He listed the following repos in the blog post in order to continue getting the latest plasma releases:

Yeah I only have the 2012 one right now.

MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:01 pm Yeah I only have the 2012 one right now.

I'm thinking you might stop getting all the updates unless you enable the other OBS repos, since Debian Bullseye has gone into a freeze and Debian's KDE group may not update the Unstable packages until after Debian 11 is released this summer. But I'm not certain.

Yes, the testing and unstable repos remain more or less closed. One can get the newer stuff (framework 5.79 and plasma 5.21) from experimental or my OBS repos, they are (should be) the same (besides the version number.

norbert wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:51 pm Yes, the testing and unstable repos remain more or less closed. One can get the newer stuff (framework 5.79 and plasma 5.21) from experimental or my OBS repos, they are (should be) the same (besides the version number.

Yes, I think I will stick with your OBS repos, as I've had more problems with Experimental.

A new MX-KDE 5.21 Sid Respin ISO has been posted here: https://mega.nz/folder/SBlQHZCL#Z2oH5THPkz95-JJsDq2gxA
Passwords are the same as the MX Live ISO: demo/demo, root/root
If networking does not work, try 'sudo NetworkManager'
This respin is experimental and for testing purposes only - do not install it on a disk where you have important data. Please backup your data before letting this respin touch your machine in any way.

The repos being used now are as follows: What does not work: MX Package Installer, KDE "Discover" Software center (not sure why). I have not checked all the MX tools, some others may not be working.