PipeWire 1.0.0 for MX-23 main?

[dolphin_oracle]

its just libpipewire-0.3-modules-x11 I think, which the test pipewire-setup-mx brings down.

I think I'll remove the depend.

**just new package up for the test repo, sneak preview here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b19QpY ... drive_link

libpipewire-0.3-modules-x11 should be removable after install, and won't be pulled in for fresh installs.

Yeah, I had noticed that X11 package was a new addition that wasn't pulled in before, does it have something to do with Wayland?

I can't test for the beep really but I will test the new setup package in general in a few minutes just to ensure it smoothly upgrades a fresh system..

no the package is for x11 apparently, but annoying also apparently. I think it existing before, but we did not have it installed by default.

[AVLinux]

Ahhh I see...

I'm booted into a Live session right now but I can't seem to make the downloaded setup package install even if I manually set the MX-Test Repo temporarily and then apt update... I will wait until the update properly syncs into MX-Test via MXPI and try it from there..

This appears to be the culprit:
https://docs.pipewire.org/page_module_x11_bell.html

[AVLinux]

OK,

Just confirming the new 'pipewire-setup-mx' Package successfully worked on a fresh install with Debian's Pipewire 0.3.65 and upgraded everything and did not pull in 'modules-X11'. If we could get confirmation that is was the X11 package for sure that was causing the unwanted beeps I think we have the right recipe here now..

Install snippet from MXPI Console:

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Reading package lists...
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  pipewire-libcamera
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove it.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  gstreamer1.0-pipewire libconfig++9v5 libffado2 libpipewire-0.3-0
  libpipewire-0.3-common libpipewire-0.3-modules libroc0.3
  libspa-0.2-bluetooth libspa-0.2-jack libspa-0.2-libcamera libspa-0.2-modules
  libxml++2.6-2v5 pipewire pipewire-alsa pipewire-bin pipewire-jack
  pipewire-libcamera pipewire-pulse pipewire-v4l2
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libconfig++9v5 libffado2 libpipewire-0.3-common libroc0.3
  libspa-0.2-libcamera libxml++2.6-2v5
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gstreamer1.0-pipewire libpipewire-0.3-0 libpipewire-0.3-modules
  libspa-0.2-bluetooth libspa-0.2-jack libspa-0.2-modules pipewire
  pipewire-alsa pipewire-bin pipewire-jack pipewire-libcamera pipewire-pulse
  pipewire-setup-mx pipewire-v4l2
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Get:15 http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo bookworm/test amd64 pipewire amd64 1.0.0-1~mx23+1 [101 kB]
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Configuration file '/etc/security/limits.d/25-pw-rlimits.conf'
 ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
 ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
    Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
    N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
      D     : show the differences between the versions
      Z     : start a shell to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** 25-pw-rlimits.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? 
n
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Created symlink /etc/systemd/user/default.target.wants/filter-chain.service → /usr/lib/systemd/user/filter-chain.service.
Setting up pipewire-jack:amd64 (1.0.0-1~mx23+1) ...
Setting up gstreamer1.0-pipewire:amd64 (1.0.0-1~mx23+1) ...
Setting up pipewire-alsa:amd64 (1.0.0-1~mx23+1) ...
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Setting up pipewire-pulse (1.0.0-1~mx23+1) ...
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[ForkTheWire]

Hi, new forum member here and 2 year old MX user.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-16-amd64 [6.1.67-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-16-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_x64 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: Z77M-D3H v: x.x serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends
    v: F12 date: 08/21/2012
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-3570 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Ivy Bridge gen: core 3 level: v2
    built: 2012-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 0x21
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB
    L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 6 MiB desc: 1x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1930 high: 2120 min/max: 1600/3800 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2120 2: 1999 3: 1825 4: 1778 bogomips: 27228
  Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB
    filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050] vendor: Gigabyte driver: nvidia v: 525.147.05
    non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm
    built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1c81
    class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logitech Webcam C270 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.3:3
    chip-ID: 046d:0825 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositors: 1: xfwm v: 4.18.0 2: Compton v: 1 driver:
    X: loaded: nvidia gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x286mm (20.00x11.26") s-diag: 583mm (22.95")
  Monitor-1: DP-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 144 dpi: 81 size: 600x340mm (23.62x13.39")
    diag: 690mm (27.15") modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 525.147.05 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 1-1.3:3 chip-ID: 046d:0825 pcie: gen: 3 class-ID: 0102 speed: 8 GT/s serial: <filter>
    lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb9 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Logitech Webcam C270 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
  Device-3: Focusrite-Novation Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio
    bus-ID: 1-1.5:4 chip-ID: 1235:8016 class-ID: fe01
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-16-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte driver: alx v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1091 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 588.73 GiB used: 76.73 GiB (13.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Verbatim model: Vi550 S3 SSD size: 476.94 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: .0 scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: OCZ model: AGILITY3 size: 111.79 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2.15 scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 476.69 GiB size: 468.13 GiB (98.21%) used: 76.73 GiB (16.4%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 30 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 34%
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2301 libs: 1243 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mxlinux.org/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:
  Processes: 223 Uptime: 8h 2m wakeups: 1 Memory: 11.64 GiB used: 2.94 GiB (25.3%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

I've been using MX23 Xfce on my main for about 2 weeks now. I installed PipeWire 1.0.0 from test yesterday and it generally behaves ok; I also tried reproducing that "beep" described by people and it's not there, so probably the latest patch indeed fixed it. The only problem I experience with this version is some occasional subtle crickling (almost like an old Vinyl Record) when playing audio from what appears any source (ie, celluloid either video or audio, strawberry, youtube etc). It doesn't happen thankfully all the time, my only observation thus far is that it has higher chances of happening in the first 30 minutes of a boot when the audio programs/browser have been launched atleast once, or maybe it's more random because I wasn't able to reproduce it accurately. I didn't get that crickling with version 3.65. I should also mention, and as you will see in my QSI above, I use a Scarlett 2i2 Gen 1. On boot I also get a little after kernel selection 8 consecutive red LED input clipping flashes (I think it gets confused with the sampling rate or it can't get to sync properly; I do not posses too much technical knowledge in that field), this particular one was happening on version 3.65 as well; In MX21.3 I didn't get that red LED flashing on boot issue. I just thought this was a relevant place to mention that too.

[AVLinux]

Hi, new forum member here and 2 year old MX user.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-16-amd64 [6.1.67-1] arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-16-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm v: 4.18.0 vt: 7
    dm: LightDM v: 1.26.0 Distro: MX-23.1_x64 Libretto October 15  2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux 12
    (bookworm)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: Z77M-D3H v: x.x serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends
    v: F12 date: 08/21/2012
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-3570 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Ivy Bridge gen: core 3 level: v2
    built: 2012-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6 model-id: 0x3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 0x21
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB
    L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 6 MiB desc: 1x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1930 high: 2120 min/max: 1600/3800 scaling: driver: intel_cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 2120 2: 1999 3: 1825 4: 1778 bogomips: 27228
  Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB
    filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050] vendor: Gigabyte driver: nvidia v: 525.147.05
    non-free: 530.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-03) arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm
    built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1c81
    class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logitech Webcam C270 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.3:3
    chip-ID: 046d:0825 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositors: 1: xfwm v: 4.18.0 2: Compton v: 1 driver:
    X: loaded: nvidia gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x286mm (20.00x11.26") s-diag: 583mm (22.95")
  Monitor-1: DP-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 144 dpi: 81 size: 600x340mm (23.62x13.39")
    diag: 690mm (27.15") modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 525.147.05 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050/PCIe/SSE2
    direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 1-1.3:3 chip-ID: 046d:0825 pcie: gen: 3 class-ID: 0102 speed: 8 GT/s serial: <filter>
    lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb9 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Logitech Webcam C270 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
  Device-3: Focusrite-Novation Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio
    bus-ID: 1-1.5:4 chip-ID: 1235:8016 class-ID: fe01
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-16-amd64 status: kernel-api tools: alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.0 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: active
    2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte driver: alx v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1091 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 588.73 GiB used: 76.73 GiB (13.0%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Verbatim model: Vi550 S3 SSD size: 476.94 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: .0 scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: OCZ model: AGILITY3 size: 111.79 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 2.15 scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 476.69 GiB size: 468.13 GiB (98.21%) used: 76.73 GiB (16.4%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 3 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 file: /swap/swap
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 30 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 34%
Repos:
  Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2301 libs: 1243 tools: apt,apt-get,aptitude,nala,synaptic pm: rpm
    pkgs: 0 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mxlinux.org/packages/mx/repo/ bookworm main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:
  Processes: 223 Uptime: 8h 2m wakeups: 1 Memory: 11.64 GiB used: 2.94 GiB (25.3%) Init: SysVinit
  v: 3.06 runlevel: 5 default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12
  Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.26
Boot Mode: UEFI

I've been using MX23 Xfce on my main for about 2 weeks now. I installed PipeWire 1.0.0 from test yesterday and it generally behaves ok; I also tried reproducing that "beep" described by people and it's not there, so probably the latest patch indeed fixed it. The only problem I experience with this version is some occasional subtle crickling (almost like an old Vinyl Record) when playing audio from what appears any source (ie, celluloid either video or audio, strawberry, youtube etc). It doesn't happen thankfully all the time, my only observation thus far is that it has higher chances of happening in the first 30 minutes of a boot when the audio programs/browser have been launched atleast once, or maybe it's more random because I wasn't able to reproduce it accurately. I didn't get that crickling with version 3.65. I should also mention, and as you will see in my QSI above, I use a Scarlett 2i2 Gen 1. On boot I also get a little after kernel selection 8 consecutive red LED input clipping flashes (I think it gets confused with the sampling rate or it can't get to sync properly; I do not posses too much technical knowledge in that field), this particular one was happening on version 3.65 as well; In MX21.3 I didn't get that red LED flashing on boot issue. I just thought this was a relevant place to mention that too.

Thanks for the report, much appreciated!

As far as the crackling this can sometimes be a buffering issue or as you said sample rate mismatches.. As far as Focusrite Scarletts I've lost the plot on which ones work and which ones don't without special firmware and Kernel drivers, I know there is a lot of confusion but this project allegedly fixes many of these issues:

https://github.com/geoffreybennett/alsa-scarlett-gui

[ForkTheWire]

No problem, I'll be more than happy to test anything else! Audio is quite important to me, the faster we get something working reliably the better!!
Thanks for your suggestion! I think I've stumbled across that page long ago, that GUI is for exposing software controls of newer gen scarletts; no such issue with mine it being a 1stGen.
https://github.com/geoffreybennett/alsa ... 1770149320
https://github.com/geoffreybennett/alsa ... 1770494537

I think the solution is more oriented towards permanently changing what is now the default rate and buffer for "all users" so that each time I login/logout or reboot it stays there without resetting. I had a look at some commands "pw-metadata..." etc but I hesitate to make such tweaks. I prefer a more straightforward GUI approach for such things like I used to do with qjackctl on MX21.3. I know you guys have developed one for the upcoming AVLinux23, will there be any chance we'll get this/these tool(s) in the MX repos?

[AVLinux]

No problem, I'll be more than happy to test anything else! Audio is quite important to me, the faster we get something working reliably the better!!
Thanks for your suggestion! I think I've stumbled across that page long ago, that GUI is for exposing software controls of newer gen scarletts; no such issue with mine it being a 1stGen.
https://github.com/geoffreybennett/alsa ... 1770149320
https://github.com/geoffreybennett/alsa ... 1770494537

I think the solution is more oriented towards permanently changing what is now the default rate and buffer for "all users" so that each time I login/logout or reboot it stays there without resetting. I had a look at some commands "pw-metadata..." etc but I hesitate to make such tweaks. I prefer a more straightforward GUI approach for such things like I used to do with qjackctl on MX21.3. I know you guys have developed one for the upcoming AVLinux23, will there be any chance we'll get this/these tool(s) in the MX repos?

The metadata UI was a napkin sketch idea I sent to @Melber who is the YAD genius behind much of the MX Fluxbox customization stuff. I have made mention of it to the MX Devs but I would guess if there is User demand for it it will get into MX proper at some point in time. The only thing that makes PipeWire seem complicated for Audio work is that most mainline Distros don't follow through and set up both pipewire-pulse and pipewire-jack completely. Once pipewire-jack is completely set up and properly linked it's actually easier than Pulse/JACK was.

For example the current AV Linux 23 Live ISO in Testing boots up and pipewire-jack is a ready to connect with no intervention from the user... As an example Reaper starts and connects instantly and with Ardour and Harrison Mixbus you simply select the JACK Audio Backend when you create a session and off you go. The PipeWire metadata UI only comes into play if you need to change the buffer "Quantum" value for less latency or if you need to work at 44.1khz instead of 48khz..

shot-2023-12-18_16-42-46.jpg

[ForkTheWire]

That would be a great addition!
I think I have a lead for the crackling. Yesterday I had strawberry playing and fired up Audacity to try and figure out inputs and suddenly it began...so yes that threw me back to MX21 when pulseaudio was misbehaving before I had figured out jackd2/p-m-j/qjackctl..
By default I see in the task manager pipewire and pipewire-pulse are running ( I haven't touched anything) and on startup pipewire(sysvinit)(I think if this is configured differently it might solve the 8 blinks on startup and prevent my interface from frying). I don't see anywhere pipewire-jack or "pw-jack" though it is installed as I see in MXPI also I found a pw-jack script in usr/bin.
How would I go about achieving what you mentioned? I couldn't find any post close enough to what you described; you might be the pioneer. Is it complicated to setup on basic MX23 Xfce?

[AVLinux]

That would be a great addition!
I think I have a lead for the crackling. Yesterday I had strawberry playing and fired up Audacity to try and figure out inputs and suddenly it began...so yes that threw me back to MX21 when pulseaudio was misbehaving before I had figured out jackd2/p-m-j/qjackctl..
By default I see in the task manager pipewire and pipewire-pulse are running ( I haven't touched anything) and on startup pipewire(sysvinit)(I think if this is configured differently it might solve the 8 blinks on startup and prevent my interface from frying). I don't see anywhere pipewire-jack or "pw-jack" though it is installed as I see in MXPI also I found a pw-jack script in usr/bin.
How would I go about achieving what you mentioned? I couldn't find any post close enough to what you described; you might be the pioneer. Is it complicated to setup on basic MX23 Xfce?

I would follow the Debian 12 instructions here:

https://wiki.debian.org/PipeWire

In my experience the trickiest part is that getting PipeWire's JACK to work invisibly like 'old' JACK still requires the manual linking instructions from the Debian 11 'For JACK' section and the file location is wrong for Debian 12 (MX-23) so here are the correct instructions:

Create this empty file (may not be necessary but it doesn't do any harm):

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sudo touch /usr/share/pipewire/media-session.d/with-jack

Either run JACK clients using the pw-jack wrapper, or copy:

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sudo cp /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/ld.so.conf.d/pipewire-jack-*.conf /etc/ld.so.conf.d/

And run:

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sudo ldconfig

[Charlie Brown]

Edit: You already wrote that :)