MX 23 Going back to pulseaudio (step-by-step tutorial)

[CharlesV]

@CyberGhost You may also want to try a liquorix kernel, they have less "lag" and are built for speed over power savings. I have found all versions to be better on my machines. (6.2.14 and 6.4.9 are very nice and may help with this too.

Yes but aren't those kernels for newer machines? My HP laptop was made probably back in 2017 or so.

There is a point where the latest and greatest will require a little more work, and yes it can get to where they are not "really" supported well...

However, my oldest test machine ( HP Pavilion dv7 Notebook PC 2009 with 2011 firmware) runs REALLY well on 6.2.14. ( interestingly, I had a lot of trouble in mx21 on the 6.1 non liquorix version your currently running.)

And I have 6.2.14 on A BUNCH of machines (test and in use ) and ALL of them have been stellar !

Moving past that kernel, I have seen issues with deprecated or included dkms support for something etc... ( 6.4 and many Realtek adapters as an example.) But, in every case I have seen, just removing the installed package and letting the kernel handle it has worked for me.

[CyberGhost]

@CharlesV Ok thanks! I don't see the 6.2.14 liquorix kernel in MXPI. Maybe I should be looking in the Enabled Repos? Or I could look via apt aptitude or whatever that CLI command is to see kernels? I do see the 6.4.9 kernel though.

[CyberGhost]

@CharlesV Ok I got it working now! That was the problem! It was a kernel issue! I'm now running the 6.4.9 liquorix kernel and everything is running great! Video and audio now fixed! However, I am going to go ahead and reinstall MX 23 onto my laptop again from the snapshot I made with my new testing desktop computer I acquired. Well it's not new but it works lol. Then, after installation, I'll install the 6.4.9 liquorix kernel and select it in Boot Options so it will run every time. I've done did too much tinkering with this system that it would just make me feel better to have a clean install to work from. At least I know what the problem is now and the solution for it. Thanks everyone for being so patient and helping me resolve this matter!

[CharlesV]

@CharlesV Ok I got it working now! That was the problem! It was a kernel issue! I'm now running the 6.4.9 liquorix kernel and everything is running great! Video and audio now fixed! However, I am going to go ahead and reinstall MX 23 onto my laptop again from the snapshot I made with my new testing desktop computer I acquired. Well it's not new but it works lol. Then, after installation, I'll install the 6.4.9 liquorix kernel and select it in Boot Options so it will run every time. I've done did too much tinkering with this system that it would just make me feel better to have a clean install to work from. At least I know what the problem is now and the solution for it. Thanks everyone for being so patient and helping me resolve this matter!

Excellent! Glad to hear it is working!!

[Charlie Brown]

... and select it in Boot Options so it will run every time...

Glad to hear it's ok now :)

But you don't need to do that, as it'll already become the default once you install (since it'll be the highest numbered one) :)

[CyberGhost]

... and select it in Boot Options so it will run every time...

Glad to hear it's ok now :)

But you don't need to do that, as it'll already become the default once you install (since it'll be the highest numbered one) :)

Yes I see that now thanks!

[Charlie Brown]

You can even remove the 6.1 kernel(s) (if you like only) when booted with the current 6.4 , simply with "MX Cleanup" or MXPI (as it'll go on auto-upgrading ("dot" releases) just for nothing when you don't use, and take most of the upgrade time/process)

[CyberGhost]

You can even remove the 6.1 kernel(s) (if you like only) when booted with the current 6.4 , simply with "MX Cleanup" or MXPI (as it'll go on auto-upgrading ("dot" releases) just for nothing when you don't use, and take most of the upgrade time/process)

I'm aware of that and I was planning on doing just that tonight. Thanks!

[DeepDayze]

Down the road there might be newer audio standards coming but I do hope the people developing such audio standards do it in a way that doesn't need to be forced on distros. Hopefully Pipewire can address the shortcomings of PA to make it arguably a better standard.

[MadMax]

I always like to keep at least one older known good kernel around just in case something goes wrong with a newer kernel. Also it's very easy to just try out something by switching to an old kernel instead of reinstalling it :)

@DeepDayze Well, Pipewire will be the de facto new standard for Linux audio. But I also hope that PulseAudio's development will still continue. It's a little like with systemd as init system and (that's still in the future) Wayland instead of Xorg as window system.