MX Linux Forum

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:08 pm**

Greetings to all,
I was curious about Mx and I'm trying it on a Dell E6410, core i5 64bit 8 giga of ram, MX21.3 on board, so far so good, I've been using it for 15 days, then an update arrives yesterday and firefox goes into crash, I reset firefox from troubleshooting, reinstalled TWP, web page translator, I'm Italian, installed ublock and autodele cookies as before and it often closes with an error message and relative log send crash to firefox, at this point not being a top in linux please what can be done to fix it
Looking forward to suggestions/advice, thanks.
Best regards to all here

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:18 pm**

Please post your Quick System Info using Copy for forum, thanks.

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 3:35 pm**

Thanks for the help; i hope is this that you find......

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-21-amd64 [5.10.162-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-21-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower January 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude E6410 v: 0001 serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 9 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0667CC v: A00 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A17 date: 05/12/2017 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 65.6 Wh (100.0%) condition: 65.6/84.7 Wh (77.5%) volts: 12.4 
           min: 11.2 model: Samsung SDI DELL R289607 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
           Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless Gaming Mouse 
           serial: <filter> charge: 100% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 520 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem 
           family: 6 model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 2 microcode: 11 cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19151 
           Speed: 2355 MHz min/max: 1199/2400 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2355 
           2: 2118 3: 2119 4: 2248 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
           conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell Latitude E6410 
           driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0046 class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: loaded: intel 
           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.3x8.3") 
           s-diag: 398mm (15.7") 
           Monitor-1: eDP1 res: 1280x800 hz: 60 dpi: 107 size: 303x190mm (11.9x7.5") 
           diag: 358mm (14.1") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Dell Latitude E6410 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-21-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network vendor: Dell Latitude E6410 driver: e1000e 
           v: kernel port: 7040 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10ea class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Broadcom BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n 
           vendor: Dell Wireless 1520 Half-size Mini PCIe Card driver: wl v: kernel modules: bcma 
           port: 7000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4353 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 14.15 GiB (3.0%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Intenso model: SSD SATAIII size: 476.94 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: 8A0 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 236.56 GiB size: 231.79 GiB (97.98%) used: 9.44 GiB (4.1%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 58.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: SODIMM C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2884 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1981 lib: 999 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://it.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Info:      Processes: 260 Uptime: 8h 5m wakeups: 10 Memory: 7.7 GiB used: 5.07 GiB (65.9%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:02 pm**

Dear Edwin Rose In the meantime, thanks for answering me, and then I would like to clarify that I have been using mx 21.3 Wild Flower for about 2 weeks, and apart from some management differences from ubuntu mate which I used before, I have not had any problems, I switched to MX because I need many open firefox tabs and until yesterday I received updates never a problem, then I updated and from there the crashes were born ... Thanks in advance for the help ....
I forgot with this version of linux I had problems with the wifi card, it couldn't find my network, I had to change the wifi channel of the router from 13, set channel 3 and when I scan the wifi networks it puts channel 1 first despite the low signal and channel 2, my network with maximum signal only shows in 5th or 6th place, this is the only strange thing I found besides having to do two steps to save a screenshot..

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:53 pm**

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-8mx-rt-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-5.10.0-8mx-rt-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.14.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-19.4_x64 patito feo October 21  2019 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Pavilion g6 Notebook PC 
           v: 0594100000204610000620100 serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1693 v: KBC Version 14.16 serial: <filter> 
           BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: F.37 date: 01/16/2013 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3 M 380 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem 
           family: 6 model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 5 microcode: 7 cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 20213 
           Speed: 1432 MHz min/max: 933/2533 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1432 2: 1333 3: 1391 
           4: 1366 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds 
           status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
           STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0046 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Microdia type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-1.6:4 chip-ID: 0c45:6321 
           class-ID: 0e02 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.14.0 driver: loaded: intel 
           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x193mm (13.5x7.6") 
           diag: 394mm (15.5") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-8mx-rt-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.12 running: no 
           Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 12.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: Hewlett-Packard U98Z062.12 802.11bgn driver: ath9k v: kernel port: 3000 
           bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:002b class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 366.2 GiB (78.6%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST500LM034-2GH17A size: 465.76 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 
           serial: <filter> rev: LXM3 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 29.3 GiB size: 28.71 GiB (98.00%) used: 12.43 GiB (43.3%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
           ID-2: /boot raw-size: 512 MiB size: 487.9 MiB (95.30%) used: 134.5 MiB (27.6%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
           ID-3: /home raw-size: 428.15 GiB size: 420.43 GiB (98.20%) used: 353.64 GiB (84.1%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 76.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2942 lib: 1397 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test
           3: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 236 Uptime: 1h 1m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.58 GiB used: 1.79 GiB (23.6%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 
           alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in default: Bash v: 5.0.3 running-in: quick-system-in 
           inxi: 3.3.06

I too am having issues with this latest version of FF on my MX19.4. I am tempted to uninstall it and reinstall the old version that was previous to this one. I realize it is not an MX issue but a Firefox one but now that I see I am not the only one, is there a fix or update in the works my fellow MXers?

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 8:08 pm**

Yes i update firefox today version 110.0 it is crashing / i download firefox from official site and install it manually still it is crashing when i try to open some website.

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:09 pm**

I know I'm in the minority and wouldn't recommend this to others, but once I get Firefox and Thunderbird dialed in and configured just the way I what them, I lock them and don't update them until I'm forced to, which for me means until I update the OS (which is also something I don't do until I'm forced to).

Posted: **Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:12 pm**

@uncle mark You should add, "Children, please don't try this at home." Virtually all Firefox and Thunderbird updates have a huge number of security fixes. It's the nature of being out on the Internet. For example, here is a link to the current batch of fixes in 110.0:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/ ... sa2023-05/

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:48 am**

I don't use firefox, but has anyone looked on their forums yet, as it is a firefox issue?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 3:04 am**

Same here, the last update of Firefox keeps crashing.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:30 am**

Just tried it, and same here - frequent crashes. Librewolf (my default browser, based on Firefox and also just now upgraded to version 110) doesn't seem to have that problem, at least, I haven't come across any crashes so far. For this and a few other reasons, I recommend Librewolf over Firefox :-)

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:41 am**

After updateing latest version of firefox 110.0, firefox is crashing, this problem is from firefox not with mx or librewolf

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:05 am**

I am sure you are right. I just don't see more Firefox crashes than I normally do and that is pretty rarely.
Youtube Enhancer is the only add on I use so my Firefox install is pretty clean.

Do you have some specific links that can give you a crash every time or is it more random and periodically.?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:50 am**

I too have been having Firefox crashes since update.

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Snapshot created on: 20220109_2331
System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-15mx-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-15mx-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.14.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM 
           Distro: MX-19.4_kde_x64 patito feo March 31  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Portable System: Dell product: Inspiron N5010 v: A15 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0WXY9J v: A15 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A15 date: 07/19/2011 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 76.5 Wh (100.0%) condition: 76.5/73.3 Wh (104.4%) volts: 12.5 min: 11.1 
           model: SMP DELL 8NH5515 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 450 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem family: 6 
           model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 5 microcode: 7 cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19199 
           Speed: 1288 MHz min/max: 1197/2395 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1288 2: 1317 3: 1231 
           4: 1265 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0046 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Microdia type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.6:4 chip-ID: 0c45:6461 class-ID: 0e02 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: loaded: intel display-ID: :0 
           screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 102 size: 340x190mm (13.4x7.5") diag: 389mm (15.3") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-15mx-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 12.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter 
           vendor: Dell Inspiron M5010 / XPS 8300 driver: wl v: kernel modules: bcma port: f000 
           bus-ID: 12:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4727 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel 
           port: e000 bus-ID: 13:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Dell Wireless 365 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 2-1.6.3:6 
           chip-ID: 413c:8160 class-ID: fe01 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: N/A rfk-block: hardware: no 
           software: no address: <filter> 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 64:1 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park link-mode: slave accept 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 447.13 GiB used: 12.12 GiB (2.7%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB block-size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: K1B3 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 50 GiB size: 48.91 GiB (97.83%) used: 8.45 GiB (17.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           maj-min: 8:1 
           ID-2: /home raw-size: 393.11 GiB size: 385.87 GiB (98.16%) used: 3.67 GiB (1.0%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 253:0 mapped: 1.home.fsm 
Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2455 lib: 1361 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 226 Uptime: 10h 37m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.58 GiB used: 2.03 GiB (26.8%) Init: SysVinit 
           v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 
           Shell: quick-system-in default: Bash v: 5.0.3 running-in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.3.06

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:50 am**

figueroa wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:12 pm @uncle mark You should add, "Children, please don't try this at home." Virtually all Firefox and Thunderbird updates have a huge number of security fixes. It's the nature of being out on the Internet. For example, here is a link to the current batch of fixes in 110.0:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/ ... sa2023-05/

I know I know. That said, I would point out my Firefox isn't crashing, either.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:22 am**

Ok.. we know it crashes for a lot of folks. What do the firefox forums say?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:55 am**

Some talk about the passage to number 100 which would bug Firefox and Chrome on certain sites.

Information from a French site 01net.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:52 pm**

Something weird is going on...because,
I had problems with previous version of Freecad
(in MX only but not in another distro running on the same hardware - see:https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=74047)
Since I have updated to this latest version things have been a lot better

I am not saying that what you boys and girls are reporting is not true, just reporting my experience.

Perhaps a comparison of your and my QSI (by someone more knowledgeable than myself) might give some clues?

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System:    Kernel: 6.0.0-6mx-amd64 [6.0.12-1~mx21+1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.0.0-6mx-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm: SDDM 
           Distro: MX-21.3_KDE_x64 Wildflower January 15  2023 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: Gigabyte model: Z97M-D3H v: x.x serial: <filter> 
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: F8 date: 09/18/2015 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i5-4690K bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell family: 6 
           model-id: 3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 28 cache: L2: 6 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 28000 
           Speed: 3073 MHz min/max: 800/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3100 2: 3099 3: 3100 
           4: 3100 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, 
           RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0412 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: NVIDIA TU116 [GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] driver: nouveau v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2187 class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: loaded: modesetting 
           unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 4480x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1185x381mm (46.7x15.0") 
           s-diag: 1245mm (49") 
           Monitor-1: DP-1 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 size: 476x268mm (18.7x10.6") 
           diag: 546mm (21.5") 
           Monitor-2: DVI-D-1 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.2") 
           diag: 685mm (27") 
           OpenGL: renderer: NV168 v: 4.3 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:0c0c class-ID: 0403 
           Device-2: Intel 9 Series Family HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:8ca0 class-ID: 0403 
           Device-3: NVIDIA TU116 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:1aeb class-ID: 0403 
           Device-4: JMTek LLC. USB PnP Audio Device type: USB 
           driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid bus-ID: 2-9.1:3 chip-ID: 0c76:161f 
           class-ID: 0300 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.0.0-6mx-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 12.79 GiB (11.4%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Kingston model: SHFS37A120G size: 111.79 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> 
           rev: BBF0 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 106.16 GiB size: 103.93 GiB (97.90%) used: 12.79 GiB (12.3%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 5.62 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: nouveau temp: 28.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2320 lib: 1296 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb https://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/mxlinux/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onlyoffice.list 
           1: deb https://download.onlyoffice.com/repo/debian squeeze main
Info:      Processes: 203 Uptime: 4h 5m wakeups: 1 Memory: 15.47 GiB used: 2.46 GiB (15.9%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: N/A 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:34 pm**

How about starting "firefox" from a terminal and see if it throws up errors when it crashes?

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:57 pm**

Having the same problem (firefox crashing) on thinkpad t410 running MX19.4 since this evening. Firefox Update was yesterday.

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Snapshot created on: 20200915_1434
System:
  Kernel: 4.19.0-23-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-23-amd64 
  root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet hush 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.5 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.14.0 
  vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-19.4_x64 patito feo May 31  2020 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 253795G v: ThinkPad T410 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 253795G serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO 
  v: 6IET85WW (1.45 ) date: 02/14/2013 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 65.7 Wh (100.0%) condition: 65.7/93.2 Wh (70.5%) 
  volts: 12.8 min: 11.1 model: SANYO 45N1007 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> 
  status: Full 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 520 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Nehalem family: 6 model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 2 microcode: 11 cache: 
  L2: 3 MiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 19151 
  Speed: 1213 MHz min/max: 1199/2400 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 
  1: 1213 2: 1206 3: 1207 4: 1207 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; 
  SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, 
  STIBP: conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0046 class-ID: 0300 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.14.0 driver: 
  loaded: intel display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.3x8.3") 
  s-diag: 398mm (15.7") 
  Monitor-1: LVDS1 res: 1280x800 hz: 60 dpi: 107 size: 303x189mm (11.9x7.4") 
  diag: 357mm (14.1") 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 
  class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.19.0-23-amd64 running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 12.2 running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e 
  v: 3.2.6-k port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10ea class-ID: 0200 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
  modules: wl port: 1880 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4239 class-ID: 0280 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 65.88 GiB (55.3%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: MZ7TE128HMGR-000L1 
  size: 119.24 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 6L0Q scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 20 GiB size: 19.52 GiB (97.59%) used: 10.87 GiB (55.7%) 
  fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
  ID-2: /home raw-size: 95.24 GiB size: 93.56 GiB (98.24%) 
  used: 55 GiB (58.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 4 GiB used: 18.8 MiB (0.5%) 
  priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1963 
Repos:
  Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2043 lib: 960 flatpak: 0 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
  1: deb https://mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/MX_antiX_packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onlyoffice.list 
  1: deb https://download.onlyoffice.com/repo/debian squeeze main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list 
  1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:
  Processes: 200 Uptime: 12h 43m wakeups: 2 Memory: 3.66 GiB 
  used: 1.36 GiB (37.2%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: quick-system-in 
  default: Bash v: 5.0.3 running-in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.3.06

here is what was upgraded alongside firefox 110:

2023-02-17 01:58:38 upgrade libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18 amd64 2.38.4-2~deb10u1 2.38.5-1~deb10u1
2023-02-17 01:58:35 upgrade libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 amd64 2.38.4-2~deb10u1 2.38.5-1~deb10u1
2023-02-17 01:58:35 upgrade gir1.2-webkit2-4.0 amd64 2.38.4-2~deb10u1 2.38.5-1~deb10u1
2023-02-17 01:58:35 upgrade gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0 amd64 2.38.4-2~deb10u1 2.38.5-1~deb10u1
2023-02-17 01:58:25 upgrade firefox amd64 109.0.1~mozillabinaries-1mx19+1 110.0~mozillabinaries-1mx19+1

NOTE: I HAVE ANOTHER LAPTOP (thinkpad x201) WITH SIMILAR SPECS RUNNING MX21.3 AND AM NOT SEEING THIS BEHAVIOUR. THE SAME PACKAGES WERE UPGRADED ALONG WITH FIREFOX 110. Here are the specs:

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-21-amd64 [5.10.162-1] x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-21-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.18.1 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.18.0 vt: 7 
           dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower October 20  2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 3680MG1 v: ThinkPad X201 serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 10 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: LENOVO model: 3680MG1 serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO v: 6QET42WW (1.12 ) 
           date: 03/24/2010 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 29.4 Wh (89.4%) condition: 32.9/57.7 Wh (57.1%) volts: 11.9 
           min: 11.1 model: SANYO 42T4835 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5 M 520 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem 
           family: 6 model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 5 microcode: 7 cache: L2: 3 MiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 19152 
           Speed: 1204 MHz min/max: 1199/2400 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1204 
           2: 1207 3: 1199 4: 1204 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
           Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations 
           Type: retbleed status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass 
           mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
           conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0046 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Lenovo Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-1.6:4 
           chip-ID: 17ef:4816 class-ID: 0e02 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.18.0 driver: loaded: intel 
           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.3x8.3") 
           s-diag: 398mm (15.7") 
           Monitor-1: LVDS1 res: 1280x800 hz: 60 dpi: 125 size: 261x163mm (10.3x6.4") 
           diag: 308mm (12.1") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-21-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl 
           port: 1860 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4238 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 9.99 GiB (2.1%) 
           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
           ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: HTS545050A7E380 
           size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD 
           rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: ACY0 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 11.18 GiB size: 10.9 GiB (97.52%) used: 8.59 GiB (78.8%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
           ID-2: /home raw-size: 450.86 GiB size: 442.71 GiB (98.19%) used: 1.4 GiB (0.3%) 
           fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.73 GiB used: 1.4 MiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2017 lib: 998 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxlinux.mirrors.uk2.net/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
Info:      Processes: 203 Uptime: 1d 9h 42m wakeups: 42912 Memory: 3.64 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (50.9%) 
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 
           alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.06 
Boot Mode: BIOS (legacy, CSM, MBR)

Note that the graphics drivers on my x201 are the same as OP's and it is working fine.

On the firefox forums, people are talking about disabling hardware acceleration and also a new feature called 'GPU Sandboxing'. I looked into both of those settings but it didn't help.
I also tried forcing an older version in Synaptic manager for each of the other packages that were upgraded along with firefox but it shows version 2.36.... (the one prior was 2.38.4) and as such it wants to remove quite a lot of other packages which I don't want.

If anyone is desperate ( I only have one browser), I suggest you download FIREFOX-ESR from the repos for now.

EDIT: Note that over on the forums, people are saying that their youtube video playback is choppy. I didn't notice that on Firefox 110, however I did notice it on Firefox-ESR which is why I posted the info about what else was upgraded alongside Firefox 110 namely all the java and webkit stuff. Firefox-ESR does not have the new 'GPU Sandboxing' feature.
EDIT EDIT: I have a 3 rd laptop also running MX19.4 but it still has firefox 109.1 on it and is working fine. Firefox 109.1 has 'GPU Sandboxing' as well so I'm stumped now.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 12:54 pm**

For what it's worth, I've been trying Firefox 110.0 in EndeavourOS and so far have experienced no crashes, including on pages which repeatedly crashed when running the browser in MX 21.3. Browser addons etc are identical in both systems. I have no idea what to make of this - just thought it worth reporting.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:24 pm**

As Stevo already said: Just any user needs to issue:

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firefox

in a terminal then post the output when it crashes.

(More posts (outputs) from more users will be more helpful for devs.)

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:33 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:24 pm As Stevo already said: Just any user needs to issue:
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firefox
in a terminal then post the output when it crashes.

Okay, this is the terminal output relating to opening tumblr.com, followed by an almost instant crash:

[GFX1-]: glxtest: VA-API test failed: failed to initialise VAAPI connection.
[xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue
[xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called
[xcb] Aborting, sorry about that.
firefox.real: ../../src/xcb_io.c:269: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed.
ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 8364
ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.

Note - the same "failed to initialise VAAPI connection" message appears when starting Librewolf - a Firefox clone also upgraded to version 110 a few days ago - in a terminal. But there, similarities end. Librewolf does NOT crash, whereas Firefox 110 tirelessly does...

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:30 pm**

Huckleberry Finn wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:24 pm ...then post the output when it crashes...

mine doesn't crash (at least not as often as being reported here), but when started gets the same message about VAAPI as reported elsewhere...

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$ firefox
[GFX1-]: glxtest: VA-API test failed: no supported VAAPI profile found.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.

but....

when it crashes (this has happened after I have manually enabled VAAPI in about:config), this is the message:

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$ firefox
[GFX1-]: glxtest: VA-API test failed: no supported VAAPI profile found.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 13494
ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
bambuko@bambuko-mx:~
$ GConf Error: Failed to activate configuration server: The name org.gnome.GConf was not provided by any .service files

Failed to open curl lib from binary, use libcurl.so instead

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:47 pm**

What happens when you disable hardware acceleration?

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:12 pm**

Well... I have returned the settings back to as it was before and it is still running
If it fails I will report obviously, but it is interesting that things went pear shaped as soon as I started messing with:

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media.ffmpeg.vaapi.enabled
media.ffvpx.enabled
media.rdd-vpx.enabled
media.navigator.mediadatadecoder_vpx_enabled

BTW,

1-this is what is happening at the moment (while it is running fine):

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$ firefox
[GFX1-]: glxtest: VA-API test failed: no supported VAAPI profile found.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
[2023-02-19T20:44:43Z ERROR mp4parse] Found 2 nul bytes in "\0\0"
[2023-02-19T20:44:43Z ERROR mp4parse] Found 2 nul bytes in "\0\0"
[2023-02-19T20:44:43Z ERROR mp4parse] Found 2 nul bytes in "\0\0"
[2023-02-19T20:44:43Z ERROR mp4parse] Found 2 nul bytes in "\0\0"

2-changing hardware acceleration settings in Edit>Settngs>General doesn't make a blind bit of difference

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:17 pm**

My problem is solved I think. I haven't had a crash all day after I changed this setting in firefox's about:config:

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gfx.canvas.accelerated                                 true                                                        =====> false

This was because the new release notes mention:

It's now possible to import bookmarks, history and passwords not only from Edge, Chrome or Safari but also from Opera, Opera GX, and Vivaldi for all the folks who want to move over to Firefox instead!

GPU sandboxing has been enabled on Windows.
Note: A bug in the popular X-Mouse Button Control (XMBC) tool may cause mouse wheel scrolling to stop working. The author(s) are working on an update. Meanwhile, scrolling can be restored by reconfiguring XMBC: either disable the Make scroll wheel scroll window under cursor option in the global settings, or enable the Disable scroll window under cursor option if using a custom profile for Firefox.

On Windows, third-party modules can now be blocked from injecting themselves into Firefox, which can be helpful if they are causing crashes or other undesirable behavior.

Date, time, and datetime-local input fields can now be cleared with Cmd+Backspaceand Cmd+Deleteshortcut on macOS and Ctrl+Backspaceand Ctrl+Deleteon Windows and Linux.

GPU-accelerated Canvas2D is enabled by default on macOS and Linux.

WebGL performance improvement on Windows, MacOS and Linux.

Enables overlay of hardware-decoded video with non-Intel GPUs on Windows 10/11, improving video playback performance and video scaling quality.[/list]

Yesterday, I was wrongly chasing 'gpu sandboxing' but that has been enabled since Firefox 109 at least and I had no problems with FF 109. If you want to disable it you can change this setting:

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security.sandbox.gpu.level                                   to '0' (zero)

Mine was already set to '0'. Also disabling hardware acceleration had no effect. DISABLING THE GPU-ACCELERATED CANVAS2D SETTING WORKED.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:42 pm**

That is very interesting @BitterTruth
I have checked my gfx.canvas.accelerated and it is/was set to=true
so maybe this is why I never really had any problems?

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:52 pm**

I think it might be because your on a different graphic driver to the rest of us (@dema2, @mike lovin, @pianokeyjoe) are all using:

OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5

I am using:

OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Mobile v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes

You are using:

OpenGL: renderer: NV168 v: 4.3 Mesa 22.0.5 direct render: Yes

I have to say one of my machines is using the same driver as (@dema2, @mike lovin, @pianokeyjoe) and it has no problems. Not even with gfx.canvas.accelerated = true

COULD IT BE THE INTEL IRONLAKE CPU GRAPHICS AT FAULT HERE in combination with xfce4's compositor which apparently also does 2d hardware accelaration when enabled?

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:36 pm**

Inspector Clouseau :

It may be due to Mesa version:

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dema2		Mesa 20.3.5

pianokeyjoe	Mesa 20.3.5  (MX 19)

mike lovin      Mesa 20.3.5  (MX 19)

BitterTruth	Mesa 18.3.6  (MX 19)


BitterTruth	Mesa 20.3.5	(no issues)

bambuko	        Mesa 22.0.5	(better now, he says)

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:23 pm**

@BitterTruth I am going to see if the next time FF crashes, I try using a different Desktop or WM for a while and see if the crashes stop. You may be right, the XFCE4 compositor is ON on my machines all the time and FF may be having a fit now. But it could be the graphics driver/CPU..

Crashes are very random so.. guessing game anyone?

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:41 am**

BitterTruth wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:17 pm My problem is solved I think. I haven't had a crash all day after I changed this setting in firefox's about:config:
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gfx.canvas.accelerated                                 true                                                        =====> false

This seems to have fixed it for me too, no crashes so far after setting this to FALSE.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:51 am**

hebelwirkung wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:41 am
BitterTruth wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:17 pm My problem is solved I think. I haven't had a crash all day after I changed this setting in firefox's about:config:
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gfx.canvas.accelerated                                 true                                                        =====> false
This seems to have fixed it for me too, no crashes so far after setting this to FALSE.

Seems to have fixed my issue too, so far today.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:28 am**

@pianokeyjoe I have awesomewm installed and it was crashing on that too. Mind you I was using compton with it for the transparency.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:59 pm**

BitterTruth wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:17 pm My problem is solved I think. I haven't had a crash all day after I changed this setting in firefox's about:config:
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gfx.canvas.accelerated                                 true                                                        =====> false

Thank you all here on the forum for your interest and help, I've been trying for a couple of hours the solution provided above by Bitter Truth and so far I've had no crash...

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:00 pm**

This is yet another example of how great this community is. People confirmed the problem, set about troubleshooting and tracking down possible solutions, and arrived at what appears to be the solution, all out in the open and in real time. Bravo.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 pm**

This happened to me too firefox keeps crashing, falkon keeps crashing and slimjet doesn't want to play YouTube videos, this happens on MX linux and AntiX too, maybe when I get home I can post the terminal output on the errors!

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:17 pm**

pianokeyjoe wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:23 pm @BitterTruth I am going to see if the next time FF crashes, I try using a different Desktop or WM for a while and see if the crashes stop. You may be right, the XFCE4 compositor is ON on my machines all the time and FF may be having a fit now. But it could be the graphics driver/CPU..

Crashes are very random so.. guessing game anyone?

I'm thinking the same I think it's the problem with the graphics GPU or drivers or both!

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:47 pm**

Try post 27

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:05 am**

heavy metal wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:15 pm This happened to me too firefox keeps crashing, falkon keeps crashing and slimjet doesn't want to play YouTube videos, this happens on MX linux and AntiX too,..

Since it's a common issue in your case with different browsers:

Other than doing the above solution for FF. :

in all browsers open settings/preferences, search for "hardware acceleration".. disable. Close it, restart, try.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:40 am**

Well guys, crashes continued so I had to revert back to FF 108. Everything works..

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:48 pm**

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$ firefox
[xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue
[xcb] Most likely this is a multi-threaded client and XInitThreads has not been called
[xcb] Aborting, sorry about that.
firefox: ../../src/xcb_io.c:269: poll_for_event: Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed.
ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 8512
ExceptionHandler::SendContinueSignalToChild sent continue signal to child
ExceptionHandler::WaitForContinueSignal waiting for continue signal...
here2@WallE:~
$ Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
Exiting due to channel error.
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Posted: **Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:57 pm**

I too have been experiencing Firefox crashes on some, but not all, web pages. I've tried changing the Firefox setting gfx.canvas.accelerated from true to false, as suggested previously, but the crashes still occur.

When Firefox crashes these are the messages displayed in the console window:

Firefox_Console_Output.txt

As posted by others, the first line is displayed as soon as Firefox is launched. The remaining lines are displayed just before Firefox crashes. Here is a typical Firefox crash report:

Firefox_Crash_Report.txt

I've seen comments on the web that this behavior could be a graphics driver problem so, at their suggestion, I've run "vainfo -G":

vainfo_Output.txt

but it's unclear to me if this is useful. These are the drivers currently installed on my system:

installed_Drivers.txt

Those same comments suggested using the "radeonsi_dri.so" driver (I don't know why) but I don't know how to do that.
As a side note, I do recognize that my graphics hardware is rather old.

I'm at a loss as to how to proceed further. As it stands, I'm hesitant to use Firefox since it crashes rather often. Some posters have reverted to the previous version of Firefox and that stopped the crashes. I'm willing to try that if someone can tell me how to do it. Otherwise, I'm open to any other suggestions.

Thanks for reading this far!

Posted: **Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:33 pm**

Did you also try this?

Settings: search for "hardware acceleration".. uncheck "Use hardware acceleration when available".

Close FF, restart.

Posted: **Tue Feb 28, 2023 6:38 pm**

If still not, uninstall FF (you can simply use MX Package Installer)

then, 109 are available here:

64 bit: http://it.mxrepo.com/antix/bullseye/poo ... _amd64.deb

32 bit: http://it.mxrepo.com/antix/bullseye/poo ... 1_i386.deb

Posted: **Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:01 pm**

No, I did not change "hardware acceleration". Following your suggestion I brought up "settings" from the edit menu and searched for it but Firefox could not find it. When I tried switching to "Performance" under the "General" topic, Firefox crashes.

Thanks for the link to version 109. I'll try it if a fix can't be found.

Sorry I forgot the "Quick System Info" stuff in my original post- here 'tis:

QuickSystemInfo.txt

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:14 am**

@katu902

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2023 1:08 pm**

Thanks a lot for the solution!

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:55 am**

Just switched back to FF 110.1 which is an MX update and instantly crashed. So guess no real solution was ever found? baaack to 108.2 lol. Wow. Mozilla has failed us.

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 4:45 am**

pianokeyjoe wrote: Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:55 am Just switched back to FF 110.1 which is an MX update and instantly crashed. So guess no real solution was ever found? baaack to 108.2 lol. Wow. Mozilla has failed us.

Actually, the solution seems to have been found, as posted in post #27 by @BitterTruth

BitterTruth wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:17 pm My problem is solved I think. I haven't had a crash all day after I changed this setting in firefox's about:config:
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gfx.canvas.accelerated                                 true                                                        =====> false

Okay, I normally use LibreWolf, but I tested all the pages that caused Firefox to crash before the solution, and not a single negative outcome since.

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2023 3:57 pm**

Hmm, I thankyou guys for pointing out a temporary solution as in post 27. But the sad fact is you need accelerated hardware driver support to have a pleasant youtube and facebook, bitchute,rumbl,etc, experience. I have not heard or read back what the outcome of disabling hardware video acceleration has done to the online streaming and video watching experience. My common sense tells me it would be pretty bad. But, I could be wrong. In the end I opted to uninstall FF110 in synaptic and then hunt down a backed up deb file of FF108.2 and then restore my old profile bits that mean the most to me. All is well now. I will have to wait till Mozilla fixes this as it seems to affect alot of folks not just us. Hardware driver issue was the first things I read in the error log(crashlog). So yeah, that is baaaad. Anyways, temp solution does work for most but some machines and setups have been reported to still fail with FF randomly crashing..

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