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MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:21 pm
by SwampRabbit
I'm creating this thread to just consolidate and keep track of MX-21 release posts on the web, reviews, and other relevant items.

As a community it is important to support those who spend their time to write about, support, and review MX Linux (good, bad, indifferent) online.
Even one blog/website/vlog/podcast view or comment can make the difference to these creators.
Edit: they are going to be added in order they were posted/found, order does not endorse one thing over another, all are deserving of notice.

Please feel free to share anything you find online as long as it meets these loose guidelines, I'll review and add whatever anyone posts to this first post:
- is specific to MX-21 Final (and future minor release versions)
- must not be trying to sell or solicit products or services (its already a forum rule)
- must be original content (i.e. no redirects or be copy and paste of other's content)
- reviews must actually be a "review", none of this 5 second video with music just clicking through the menu and opening a few apps
- HowTos must actually be useful and not lead to instability of a user's system (i.e. recommending adding Ubuntu PPAs, etc)
- if you want to share a series or group of things about MX-21 from the same site, please provide the top level link

Outside of that let us know what you've found! :happy:


RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENTS
https://9to5linux.com/systemd-free-mx-l ... 1-bullseye
https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=11379
https://linuxiac.com/mx-linux-21/
https://betanews.com/2021/10/21/mx-linux-21-download/
This Week in Linux (YouTube) - highlights our release - if you use the link and click play it should start at 26:18 where the release is covered for 3mins
https://news.itsfoss.com/mx-linux-21-release/


BLOG/WEBSITE REVIEWS & MENTIONS
ghacks.net - Distrowatch Top 5 Distributions review: MX Linux
Distrowatch Weekly Review
Dedoimedo MX-21 KDE Review
Dedoimedo MX-21 Xfce Review
FOSS Post - MX Linux 21 Is The Best Linux Distribution Of 2021
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20220103


YOUTUBE REVIEWS
The Linux Cast - MX Linux 21 First Look - The Best Debian Distro?
eBuzz Central - MX-21 KDE review
MX Linux 21 Fluxbox Review by Locos por Linux - Espanol/Spanish
MX-21 review by VORO MV - Espanol/Spanish
MX Linux 21 Fluxbox Review - Dansk/Danish
MX Linux 21 Review by Distroナナッキー - Japanese?
SwitchedToLinux - Getting Started with MX Linux (walkthrough for MX-21) non-YouTube version below
Adrien Linuxtricks - MX Linux 21 : Bilan de la distribution en 2021 (walkthrough review for MX-21) - Français/French
G's Multiverse Tour of MX-21 (highlights MX Tour)
Jack Keifer's Review and walkthrough of MX-21 Xfce
ExplainingComputer - MX Linux 21: An Increasingly Popular Distro - Highlights all 3 DEs


PODCAST/VLOG REVIEWS
SwitchedToLinux - Getting Started with MX Linux (walkthrough for MX-21)


HOWTOs/GUIDES
MX-21 Installer Videos by our own dolphin_oracle
MX-21 Fluxbox: what's new (Part 1) by our own Jerry3904
SwitchedToLinux - Getting Started with MX Linux (walkthrough for MX-21)


I'll clean up the links and this whole thing more later.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:12 am
by Rodney

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:53 am
by SwampRabbit
Rodney, thank you for sharing, that is a really great review!

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:15 am
by Adrian
Geez, that Distrowatch rank again, I would much rather we were not on top than to be accused of gaming the system. Even well intentioned people like this guy are confused by that...

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 2:27 am
by SwampRabbit
@Adrian I think he was saying that "he thought that initially before his previous review", everyone knows you can't really game DW, even if you could get more page views Jesse would catch on soon enough. I'm going to watch his other review later... its bed time... that means you too! :happy:

The review is very good, he likes many things (even to the point of shock), doesn't like a few things, but its a really good review. I wish he covered MX Tools a bit more, you can tell he doesn't know MX, but that kinda makes the review even better in a way. Good honest outside perspective.

Edit: for typo cause :needcoffee:

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:58 am
by monsieurzik
Great job again dudes ! Running so well on a MacBook 2.1 from 2007 !
Thanks.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:00 am
by siamhie
Here's a 40 minute review by Old Mate's Backyard Tech of MX 21 XFCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9OelVjBQA

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:25 am
by dsbytes
monsieurzik wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:58 am Great job again dudes ! Running so well on a MacBook 2.1 from 2007 !
Thanks.
My wife has one of those. I got her a new Macbook Air last December. Thanks for this info. Her old MacBook is sitting in a closet collecting dust.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:33 am
by richb
siamhie wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:00 am Here's a 40 minute review by Old Mate's Backyard Tech of MX 21 XFCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9OelVjBQA
I wish he would stop the fabulous, terrific, etc. every 30 seconds and concentrate more on the details.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:41 am
by SwampRabbit
Small ask for those sharing links, if you can format links like I did above so far for some of them already, it would be nice. Just saves me a bit of time, because reviews, posts, etc seem to be increasing, but not mandatory… I started the thread so it’s on me. ;)

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:44 am
by SwampRabbit
siamhie wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:00 am Here's a 40 minute review by Old Mate's Backyard Tech of MX 21 XFCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9OelVjBQA
Thanks let me get through the video, so far its more “personal setup” than review

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:49 am
by topcat

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:51 am
by SwampRabbit
Found an MX-21 Fluxbox review in German… can someone tell me if it fits the bill for addition?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYU7EaI8YMg

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:59 am
by SwampRabbit
topcat wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:49 am Announcement:
https://betanews.com/2021/10/21/mx-linux-21-download/
Thanks topcat, I’ll add it because you shared and there is like a sentence or two added, but it pretty much just names a few things from the release notes, and not pictures at all :(

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 11:42 am
by hebelwirkung
SwampRabbit wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:44 am
siamhie wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 9:00 am Here's a 40 minute review by Old Mate's Backyard Tech of MX 21 XFCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9OelVjBQA
Thanks let me get through the video, so far its more “personal setup” than review
Review? It's one of those rambling monologues which staunchly refuse to be informative. I guess the people watching this kind of youtube clip are the ones interested in trying out a new spin, and they'd expect some substantial info on stuff, from init vs systemd via what's new in XFCE 4.16, to all the fine MX tools which make Debian so much more comfortable to use. But all you get is non-specific enthusiasm. The guy keeps repeating how he absolutely loves MX, how this is awesome, how his wife uses it too, how this is absolutely brilliant, yada yada yada - and that's about it. 40 minutes of it wears you down :-)

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:12 pm
by Melber
SwampRabbit wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 10:51 am Found an MX-21 Fluxbox review in German… can someone tell me if it fits the bill for addition?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kYU7EaI8YMg
Well, it doesn't meet my first requirement for a German review, which is not being in Danish .;)

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:48 pm
by SwampRabbit
Melber wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:12 pm Well, it doesn't meet my first requirement for a German review, which is not being in Danish .;)
Is that in Danish? Lol oops 😅

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:42 pm
by Bamber
SwampRabbit wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:48 pm Is that in Danish? Lol oops 😅
Oh boy, that's a bummer 9_9

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:34 pm
by SwampRabbit
We get 3mins of coverage in This Week in Linux #173, I've added the direct link in the first post to our mention, but for sharing the whole episode is worth a look
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jaJQf0dXjE

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:18 pm
by SwampRabbit
Can someone give some feedback so I can add links for these?

Russian? It’s really long but looks thorough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwDyA2-S_o8

Indonesian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsGQRRmbdp0

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:23 pm
by Eadwine Rose
SwampRabbit wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:18 pm Can someone give some feedback so I can add links for these?

Russian? It’s really long but looks thorough
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UwDyA2-S_o8
Russian yep

Do remove those m. from the links, that is for cell phones.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:32 pm
by SwampRabbit
Eadwine Rose wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:23 pm Do remove those m. from the links, that is for cell phones.
Done, that’s my bad for rushing while carving pumpkins with the family.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:53 am
by Stufe

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:00 pm
by Stufe
Spanish?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe_g0sc0-b8

'an excellent distro, very quick...'

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:05 pm
by Stufe
If you try it, you'll realize how spectacularly good this Distro is.

MX Linux 21. Cuando la pruebas, te das cuenta de lo espectacularmente buena que es esta Distro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Le55MnsGw4

'..one of my favourite distros.'

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:19 pm
by Jerry3904
@Stufe will you be adding some from this thread to the Reviews section of the website at some point?

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:48 pm
by SwampRabbit
@Stufe thanks for sharing, I’ll watch them quick and if they look decent I’ll add them.

If anyone who speaks these languages can confirm and speak to the worthiness that’s even better.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:56 pm
by Stufe
Jerry3904 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:19 pm @Stufe will you be adding some from this thread to the Reviews section of the website at some point?
The two listed on the top post (Ebuzz Central and TheLinuxCast) are now live on the Review page.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:14 pm
by Jerry3904
Nice job--thanks a zillion!

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:27 pm
by SwampRabbit
Updated and cleaned up the first post a bit.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:21 pm
by SwampRabbit
I found someone making lots of MX Linux 21 videos lately, he's a little all over the place sometimes, and the videos are pretty long sometimes. But he hits on some interesting things and seems to really like MXFB. :happy:

He made a video on "Howto Setup BTRFS with Timeshift and autosnap on MX Linux." I watched it at like x1.5 speed and haven't done the steps myself... but sharing right now for the heck of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nRXfH3h99c

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:26 pm
by Jerry3904
Wow, 4 vids on MXFB! Thanks, going to have to take a look.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:27 pm
by SwampRabbit
Jerry3904 wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:26 pm Wow, 4 vids on MXFB! Thanks, going to have to take a look.
He really likes it for sure. He is an interesting dude too, hope he makes more videos. :happy:

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:14 pm
by SwampRabbit
I've updated some links. Please feel free to share anything you find as long as it meets the requirements in the first post, if you're not sure you can still post them here... they just might not get added to the top post.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:39 pm
by danielson
Stufe wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:53 am Thoughts on this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SpZH7I_x1Y
Review might be good, just can't stand AI voice.
Like spam phone calls, i won't bother listening.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:29 pm
by SwampRabbit
danielson wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:39 pm
Stufe wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:53 am Thoughts on this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SpZH7I_x1Y
Review might be good, just can't stand AI voice.
Like spam phone calls, i won't bother listening.
This video mostly just reads the release notes and clicks through things, I don't think it adds anything for new or current users over the better videos out there, and kinda is what I stated that I don't want to include in the list. I will add it if enough users think otherwise though.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:00 pm
by Jerry3904
No, I agree. I am persuaded that we need to stay with substantive reviews for our list on the website to be useful.

Thanks, @Stufe for paying attention to this!

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:40 am
by danielson
@SwampRabbit - just noticed that the YT video recently mentioned here as submitted by @Stufe has almost 700 views.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:37 pm
by Grege
Big deal this is not a hard OS to learn. And it is only an OS after all. This is not to put someone down, just stating a fact.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:19 pm
by JeffA
Grege wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:37 pm Big deal this is not a hard OS to learn. And it is only an OS after all. This is not to put someone down, just stating a fact.
Perhaps that's one of the selling points? Maybe being not hard to learn sets it apart from other OSs, along with being easy to use, stable, and basically providing the things people look for.

Despite being "only an OS" there are differences between MX and other distros that are "only OSs" after all. And I think some could argue that it is more than an OS as it comes packaged with certain other things people use and like.

So regardless of being "only an OS", time, work, and I believe even love, has gone into producing this mere OS, and a lot of people seem to appreciate it.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:42 pm
by SwampRabbit
Grege wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:37 pm Big deal this is not a hard OS to learn. And it is only an OS after all. This is not to put someone down, just stating a fact.
Please stay on topic, which is to share reviews and or postings about the MX-21 as per the first post. Thank you for your understanding.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:56 pm
by Mauser
I found this review. MX Linux | Most Popular Linux Distro? | All Hype? https://open.lbry.com/@RichardCallaby:f ... ust-Hype:2

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:43 pm
by SwampRabbit
@Mauser

Thanks for sharing, but it’s not MX-21 specific.

Hopefully this user will consider a review or walkthrough or something for MX-21 in the future.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:27 am
by markol
Not perfect, but very, very close. So much in fact that I am considering building a serious production system and fully going MX-21.
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mx-21-kde.html

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:38 am
by SwampRabbit
markol wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:27 am
Not perfect, but very, very close. So much in fact that I am considering building a serious production system and fully going MX-21.
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mx-21-kde.html
Thanks markol, I’ll add it to the first post

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:14 am
by Jerry3904
Man, that's a terrific review from someone who's smart and knows all the weeds.

Congrats to all the Devs who were involved, especially @Adrian who was the lead.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:49 am
by Bamber
Dedoimedo's seal of approval is an asset.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:26 pm
by danielson
Don't recall Dedoimedo be so enthused!

9.5 vote on his behalf beats a high standing at Distrowatch!

Bis congrats to Devs + @Adrian

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:10 am
by Auro Kumar Sahoo
What I observed, dedoimedo is a really good on distro testing and his review are almost non biased. I have always observed small things he notes like text colour or sharpness or contrast. Package management or stability. He is probably a kde guy and I myself love kde and a rating of 9.5 Wow.. He says means it's deserving. Only we have to look into that 0.5 and he has mentioned what's it for probably

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:48 pm
by Stevo
Reading dedoimedo's MX 21 KDE review, he seems to think that MX 21 is still based on Buster and that he needs the AHS version for the XFCE spin for his IdeaPad...not true. He seemed surprised that Plasma had been updated! I bet his XFCE experience will be close to KDE's, except that KDE has better scaling.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:49 pm
by asqwerth
He may or may not realize doclike has replaced window buttons initially. Some users are more comfortable with that change than others.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:07 am
by SwampRabbit
asqwerth wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:49 pm He may or may not realize doclike has replaced window buttons initially. Some users are more comfortable with that change than others.
If I remember correctly, the first thing he always does on Xfce is delete the panel and install Plank.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:56 am
by Bamber
SwampRabbit wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:07 am If I remember correctly, the first thing he always does on Xfce is delete the panel and install Plank.
I don't think he ever did that.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:28 am
by SwampRabbit
Bamber wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:56 am
SwampRabbit wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:07 am If I remember correctly, the first thing he always does on Xfce is delete the panel and install Plank.
I don't think he ever did that.
I remembered incorrectly, just went back through his reviews. He removes Window Buttons and moves the panel to the top, and adds Plank to the bottom on the screen.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:06 pm
by Jerry3904
A terrific detailed walk-through of MX-21 (in French) with already 5,600 views. Adrien Linuxtricks understands and tests the internals including download, installation, configuration and package installation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikP46VInIL8

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:23 pm
by SwampRabbit
@Jerry3904 thanks add to the first post

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:13 pm
by Bamber
Just finished watching, good video.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:39 pm
by Jerry3904
A bunch of *old* French Linux users are going xxxxxxx about it...

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:30 pm
by siamhie
Jerry3904 wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:06 pm A terrific detailed walk-through of MX-21 (in French) with already 5,600 views. Adrien Linuxtricks understands and tests the internals including download, installation, configuration and package installation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikP46VInIL8
Google really needs to work on their translations. mrs x linux :rofl:

Screenshot2.jpg


then they translate fluxbox window manager as flu window manager xbox. :rolleyes:

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:54 am
by Jerry3904
Not sure if this counts: same guy as earlier has done a detailed 20 min vid on The Linux Cast about "Top 5 MX Linux Tools (That ALL Distros Should Have)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbNnUqHSxXo

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:05 am
by deanr72
Jerry3904 wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:54 am Not sure if this counts: same guy as earlier has done a detailed 20 min vid on The Linux Cast about "Top 5 MX Linux Tools (That ALL Distros Should Have)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbNnUqHSxXo
Yeah, I like this guy and subscribe to his channel.

He does a good series called "WTF is X Linux?" where he reviews oddball distros he comes across on distrotube. To date he's done WTF is Zelph Linux? WTF is Septor Linux? WTF is Bluestar Linux? WTF is ExTix Linux? Love it :happy:

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:52 am
by Bamber

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:35 am
by Jerry3904
Just read that. Sounds to me like a bad ISO or something similar, since no one has reported anything similar in a month of intense testing.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:39 am
by dolphin_oracle
Jerry3904 wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:35 am Just read that. Sounds to me like a bad ISO or something similar, since no one has reported anything similar in a month of intense testing.
its the ahs release. the suspend/resume issues are noted in the release blog. the 5.14 kernel still has issues I think in the graphics drivers. he would probably do better with the standard release, or at least the 5.10 kernel, which is what the KDE release does. ahs repo + 5.10 kernel. the only reason we released it at all was that we were seeing users reporting that they hardware was new enough to not be supported by the 5.10 kernel. its great that AMD is open source, but forcing a kernel update to get new drivers is the one major weakness of the linux system.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:58 am
by Adrian
but forcing a kernel update to get new drivers is the one major weakness of the linux system.
That would not be a problem if new releases would not create problems. And they wouldn't in general, but because people use closed source drivers then new releases will break those so you cannot win...

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:56 am
by SwampRabbit
Bamber wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:52 am Dedoimedo on MX Xfce.

https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mx-21-xfce.html
What a half-assed, semi-ignorant, and sadly done review.

I spent more time reading it than he did learning the new version.
There is a dock-like applet for the panel, but you cannot manually rearrange icons there, so you need to unpin and then pin icons to get them sorted as you like.
Instead of making uninformed false statements and say that trying to screw in a screw by beating it with a hammer is the only way to do it....
How about RTFM, wiki, or maybe take 5 minutes to look at MX Tour to learn how to move pinned apps in the dock?
Furthermore, during the boot, you can see an AMDGPU error show on the screen, which is NOT there when you boot the KDE one. Hint, this would also most likely explain why Firefox isn't launching, especially if it expects to use hardware acceleration (enabled by default), and there ain't no proper firmware support, so the system can't use the GPU correctly, hence the CPU revving.
Its the same hardware support components (same drivers, same firmware) as in KDE except for the kernel! Plenty of people with newer AMD GPUs don't have an issue at all.

So hot and than cold with this guy. Its like hit or miss the type of review you get, all dependent on what Chinese Festival is taking place that week.
I don't know if he was strapped for time, was too locked into tunnel vision at the time, or is going completely senile.

Either way, I'm pretty much at the point where I am done with giving his site clicks anymore, could care less about what yet another random person on the internet has to say.
Which is exactly what he is turning into when he puts together reviews like this.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:07 am
by IoannisTsoulos
I do not know about XFCE, but I have installed without any serious problem MX 21 KDE on three different machines
1) Macbook PRO Mid 2014
2) Dell Optiplex
3) Tuxedo Aura
In all three cases all my programs (QT Creator, Android Studio, Visual Studio Code, Ms Teams, Skype, Netbeans) work without any problems at all
regards

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 1:18 pm
by SwampRabbit
Post 1 updated with G's Multiverse Tour of MX-21 (highlights MX Tour) link shared by user in another thread

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:06 am
by Richard
Here's a new video review, to me; was posted a couple of days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MCOv8F49Fw

Seems very comprehensive.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:23 am
by SwampRabbit
@Richard thanks I'll look at it first chance I get today, who knows when that's gonna be :needcoffee: lol

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:26 am
by Jerry3904
Guy has no idea of the difference between opinion and fact!
MX Linus is UNDISPUTED the #1 Linux distribution.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:31 am
by SwampRabbit
@Jerry3904 haha yeah I saw the click bait title when I opened it in another browser tab, haven't viewed it yet, not sure how much review it can be at 10mins long anyway.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:40 pm
by SwampRabbit
Just added Jack Keifer's Review and walkthrough of MX-21 Xfce to the first page, its about an hour long, he covers a ton of stuff new and old for MX-21 Xfce.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:23 pm
by SwampRabbit
Just added the FOSS Post review saying MX-21 is their choice for best Distro of 2021.
FOSS Post - MX Linux 21 Is The Best Linux Distribution Of 2021

Side note: they state that apps won’t really get updates since it’s based on Debian stable, and that using flatpaks makes up for that, but anyone that uses and knows MX, knows that isn’t really true since we updated tons of apps all the time ourselves.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:55 pm
by Somewhat Reticent
… they state that apps won’t really get updates since it’s based on Debian stable…
Doesn't that also ignore backports?

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 11:31 pm
by SwampRabbit
Somewhat Reticent wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 10:55 pm Doesn't that also ignore backports?
Yea sort of, but updates from backports are not automatic. I’m talking about the app updates we do for our Repos which are often newer than even Debian backports and do update automatically if they are in our Stable Repo.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:27 pm
by Jerry3904
They also liked the Tour, and even included screenshots!

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:35 pm
by Adrian
One of the Jesse's Top Picks Of 2021
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20220103

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:39 pm
by SwampRabbit
Adrian wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 9:35 pm One of the Jesse's Top Picks Of 2021
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20220103
Thanks Adrian, added real quick to the first post, will edit/clean it up when I’m not replying from my phone.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:04 am
by Jerry3904
Jesse's article is very well written, and it is based on a solid technical understanding of what he is writing about.

Interesting how he introduces MX at the end:
So far I've talked about distributions which I feel are ideal for people who want to be on the cutting edge, people who like a wide range of options, and newcomers who want a super easy first experience with Linux. But what about what I want? Personally, the distribution I felt most at home with this year was MX Linux.
That's a pretty good description of how such an old and ugly duckling (not sure what "old duckling" could even mean) could have the success it has had IMO.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:44 am
by Arnox
I think the biggest problem anymore with getting MX Linux into widespread adoption in the Linux world is to simply get people to freaking try it. As I said in an earlier thread, people have this weird aversion to Debian-Stable-based distros, complaining that the packages are too old (for many of the packages, it doesn't matter), and they don't offer any other options to get newer packages and kernels (absolutely absurd even with standard Debian, but even moreso with MX).

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:13 am
by Jerry3904
Jesse's running a poll on readers' top pick for 2021 (among distros he has reviewed during that year), results are kind of interesting:

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Also *interesting* (actually: serioiusly irritating) is anti's comment:
The last Distrowatch review of antiX was of antiX-15, which was released in 2015.
Since then antiX has released the following

antiX-16, 16.1, 16.2, 16.3
antiX-17, 17.1, 17.2, 17.3, 17.4.1
antiX-19, 19.1, 19.2, 19.3,19.4
antiX-21

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:27 am
by asqwerth
Yep, I read that and was surprised that there hadn't been an antiX review for so long.

PS. I didn't take part in the poll.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:49 am
by Jerry3904
This is pretty unusual: a great video review based on installing and using for 2 months:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWZBfnEBIQ

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:37 am
by Paul..
Wow...this guy is a natural analyst, very smart, and extremely fair. Really good job.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:45 pm
by Adrian
Good stuff, I watched it all, I might even add a checkbox to exclude Steam folder when taking snapshots.

However he tried to add an Ubuntu PPA -- please don't do that.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:58 pm
by richb
Well done. Failed to mention in any detail the Popular Apps Tab in MX Updtaer. The fact that newer packages than in Debian have been compiled and available there.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:11 pm
by Jerry3904
It's a strange perspective for us: a power user used to Arch and abstruse applications (all the rofi mentions) looking *down* at a distro aimed at the everyday user. I wanted to post a correction about the Installer to tell him about its 20-year history, likewise with snapshot, but finally didn't bother.

The point about the repos is half right--we absolutely need to do some weeding before 21.1. I will turn my attention that the next few weeks.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:37 pm
by dolphin_oracle
What weeding @Jerry3904

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:48 pm
by Jerry3904
All the dead repos

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:52 pm
by dolphin_oracle
Jerry3904 wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 7:48 pm All the dead repos
mirrors you mean. gotcha. that's always a pain.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:06 pm
by Jerry3904
Yeah, those

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:25 pm
by asqwerth
I could have sworn that the mirror or repo he said was having errors was the Ubuntu ppa...

Though he did also mention slow mirror speed later on.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:23 pm
by Jerry3904
That's what I saw too.

It annoyed me personally that he would use the MX Fluxbox logo that I designed and Utopia executed and then not mention it at all. (Did I say that already?)

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:57 pm
by dolphin_oracle
asqwerth wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 8:25 pm I could have sworn that the mirror or repo he said was having errors was the Ubuntu ppa...

Though he did also mention slow mirror speed later on.
it was, I mentioned it.

he was also saying that the repos were slower than arch but faster than opensuse. I wouldn't worry to much about it.

I updated localize-repo-mx tonight, which won't help anyone until the next isos (snapshot or official). the list repo manager uses will need gone through.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:26 pm
by nixon
MX Linux 21 Long Term Review (from yesterday)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiWZBfnEBIQ

From The Linux Cast

Edit: Sry has been posted before ;)

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:00 pm
by Richard
I thought I read "artix" not "antix" in the quoted list at viewtopic.php?p=669036#p669036
Maybe I have the reference confused?

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:03 pm
by Ruud_Kuin
This has been posted only 4 hours ago, Explaining Computers testing MX 21.
https://youtu.be/12pCDYOHW5Q

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:34 pm
by dolphin_oracle
Ruud_Kuin wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:03 pm This has been posted only 4 hours ago, Explaining Computers testing MX 21.
https://youtu.be/12pCDYOHW5Q
wow that guy is huge in general computing. 832k+ subscribers. I'm well and truly amazed he did MX. usually those sorts stick to the big boys.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:32 pm
by Bamber
Good video, simple and explanatory.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:07 pm
by 8bit
Something I don't see in reviews is how well Thunar's rick-click menu is configured. (MX Linux Xfce)

8bit

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:17 am
by SwampRabbit
Ruud_Kuin wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 2:03 pm This has been posted only 4 hours ago, Explaining Computers testing MX 21.
https://youtu.be/12pCDYOHW5Q
Thank you for sharing, I've added it to the first post.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 2:15 am
by markol
Ubuntu is our first pick on this list, but this doesn’t mean that it is the only distro that deserves applause for being a great option that ticks all the right boxes. MX Linux is a great Debian-based distro, and it has been one of the fastest-growing Linux distros in the last couple of years. It was developed from antiX and MEPIS distros, which worked well with old hardware. MX Linux is a beautiful and light distro, and it hits many boxes of a good operating system.
https://www.fosslinux.com/49947/the-bes ... ommend.htm

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:10 pm
by Stufe
Number 2 of the Best Debian-based distros for everyone! That's great!

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 7:47 am
by Duliwi
Here is a German review of MX-21 (Xfce):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suLWyAwl9vI

They have rated ...
-desktop (integration and design)
-handling/tools
-packages (update-handling, actuality, package installer)
-memory consumption (HD and RAM)
-total.

MX Linux has achieved the highest score:
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Source of the picture: Snapshot from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Fug4n-FP0

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 11:29 am
by Aronticuz
Meh! I prefer my own reviews and MX21 is good for me. This is my news 8)

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:41 am
by dings
Review on YouTube from a Manjaro User, uploaded 2022-06-08. He has some interesting Linux videos from a user perspective on his channel Low Tech Linux.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_eWXXOAMSc

He doesn't like everything in MX but generally he likes it.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:36 pm
by GuiGuy

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:48 pm
by Jerry3904
That's an amazing review--thanks. IMO probably the best combination of detailed observation and clear understanding of goals I've never seen. And well written...

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:45 pm
by GuiGuy
bump it?

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:13 pm
by Adrian
Liked the register article too.

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:16 am
by hebelwirkung
The Register article praises MX rationally, giving solid reasons for each plus it notes, and it's difficult to disagree with any of it. One other good thing they might have mentioned is this forum, which is amongst the finest in all of Linux world. Okay, I'll stop gushing :-)

Re: MX-21 "in the news" and Reviews

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:23 am
by LU344928
And I like where it says,

'MX ... is in the process of replacing Devuan as our preferred systemd-free distro.'