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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:40 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:30 pm
nice
sid is quiet today
I've added a lot of KDE and Plasma packages .
I have some theme install issues but that is always the case with KDE.
Other than that all is working great for a sid system.
Waiting for 5.20 to hit next.
Sid has been behaving mostly well for me today. I ran into one dependency conflict as I was setting up alsa:
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apt-get install alsaplayer-jack libgcc1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libgcc1 : Depends: gcc-10-base (= 10.1.0-1) but 10.1.0-6 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Fortunately, I got alsa sound working without alsaplayer-jack, so not a big issue. As you said earlier, I'd rather sit back and allow the Debian Sid maintainers to find and fix those problems. If there's a place to report these conflicts, we should probably do so as we see them.
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:15 pm
by andyprough
So this is interesting. I installed antiX Sid (runit version) and installed Norbert's KDE 5.19.3 on it. Then I added the MX 19.2 repo and the MX gpg key, and was able to add the MX Package Installer
MX repo:
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cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
sudo nano mx.list
#Pasted this --
#MX Community Main and Test Repos
deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
MX gpg key:
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git clone https://github.com/MX-Linux/checkaptgpg
cd checkaptgpg/
sudo apt install ./checkaptgpg_19.10.08mx19+1_all.deb
sudo checkaptgpg
Had to run 'sudo checkaptgpg' twice for it to pull in the MX gpg key.
Installing MX Package Installer:
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sudo apt update
sudo apt install mx-packageinstaller
Then the MX Package Installer was added to the 'System' part of the KDE menu, and it started up and I was able to install Palemoon browser without a problem.
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:41 pm
by MAYBL8
Andy,
Looks like your gcc-10-base is ready:
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$ apt list --upgradeable
Listing... Done
cpp-10/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
gcc-10-base/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
gcc-10/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libasan6/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libatomic1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libcc1-0/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libgcc-10-dev/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libgcc-s1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libgfortran5/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libgomp1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libitm1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
liblsan0/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libquadmath0/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libstdc++6/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libtsan0/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libubsan1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
qt5-style-kvantum/mx 0.15.3+repack-0.1~mx19+1 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.14.1+repack-1]
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:43 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:41 pm
Andy,
Looks like your gcc-10-base is ready
Yup, and alsaplayer-jack installed without needing it as a dependency this time. Sid definitely lives up to its unstable label.
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:50 am
by MAYBL8
Let's discuss repos for a minute.
I will list mine below as of this morning.
I've been playing around with them trying some different things.
I know my install is a little different from yours and the dev's seem to be preferring yours. That is fine to me.
I don't want to wonder too far away from MX.
The goal for me in this project was to have the best of MX and MX KDE while also having the most up to date Plasma and KDE I could have on a somewhat rolling basis. I know a lot to ask. Time will tell but it looks like we have something here that works.
I need a lesson in repo understanding with what I am doing.
I want the MX tools in as much as we can make them work with the parameters listed above knowing that some things are probably going to break.
One of the things I would like is the use of the test repo. What I mean by that is if I can use it to install some packages.
Being on sid I might already have access to the latest packages but if I can use the MX package installer to install those packages I wonder if that would be a safer way to install them. An example I will use is Libreoffice. 7.0.xxx is out on sid and I read a post that they were putting that in the test repo. I think it would be easier and maybe safer for me to install it from there.
Right now on my system when I click the test repo it acts like it getting the list of packages but displays nothing in the list.
Maybe I can't do this and that's fine. I know it wasn't designed to work with my Franken Debian system. I don't really need it , it would just be a nice feature to use.
So here is my repo list.
Should I make a changes?
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Repos: Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
1: deb http://mirror.easyname.ch/mxlinux-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable non-free contrib main
2: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ sid non-free main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo/ buster ahs
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list
1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma519/Debian_Unstable/ ./
4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:01 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:50 am
Let's discuss repos for a minute.
I will list mine below as of this morning.
I've been playing around with them trying some different things.
I know my install is a little different from yours and the dev's seem to be preferring yours. That is fine to me.
I don't want to wonder too far away from MX.
The goal for me in this project was to have the best of MX and MX KDE while also having the most up to date Plasma and KDE I could have on a somewhat rolling basis. I know a lot to ask. Time will tell but it looks like we have something here that works.
I need a lesson in repo understanding with what I am doing.
I want the MX tools in as much as we can make them work with the parameters listed above knowing that some things are probably going to break.
One of the things I would like is the use of the test repo. What I mean by that is if I can use it to install some packages.
Being on sid I might already have access to the latest packages but if I can use the MX package installer to install those packages I wonder if that would be a safer way to install them. An example I will use is Libreoffice. 7.0.xxx is out on sid and I read a post that they were putting that in the test repo. I think it would be easier and maybe safer for me to install it from there.
Right now on my system when I click the test repo it acts like it getting the list of packages but displays nothing in the list.
Maybe I can't do this and that's fine. I know it wasn't designed to work with my Franken Debian system. I don't really need it , it would just be a nice feature to use.
So here is my repo list.
Should I make a changes?
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Repos: Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
1: deb http://mirror.easyname.ch/mxlinux-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable non-free contrib main
2: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ sid non-free main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo/ buster ahs
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list
1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma519/Debian_Unstable/ ./
4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
You are missing the MX test repo, and I am missing it also. We'll need to find the line from a working MX install and add it to sources. If it won't update, you'll need to download and run the checkaptgpg package from MX's github per my instructions a few posts back to pull in the correct gpg key. I had to run checkaptgpg twice to get all the keys pulled in.
EDIT - you may have the MX test repo in your sources already but it's just commented out - worth checking on. I don't have it at all on my new antiX Sid install where I added the main MX repo. I have it in my other MX installs, but I'm not next to my computer right now.
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:28 am
by MAYBL8
I think it might be more than that. I believe the code behind the package installer for the test repo tab just loads the repo when you click the tab and then removes it when you are finished.
I think they don't want you to permanently add it to your repository list. So that it doesn't mess up the system.
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:16 am
by SwampRabbit
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:28 am
I think it might be more than that. I believe the code behind the package installer for the test repo tab just loads the repo when you click the tab and then removes it when you are finished.
I think they don't want you to permanently add it to your repository list. So that it doesn't mess up the system.
It “enables” the repo, but it need to be in your repo list in order to enable it.
So from the whole thread you two are testing installing of applications and packages which is great. But how much testing of the applications themselves are you doing?
Debian unstable is more than just a moving target of an packages list... the applications and packages are “unstable” meaning that some of them have major bugs.
For example, when we were backporting for 19.2 AHS .. Mesa and related Intel packages got updated 3 times, one time it sat at 20.0.6 I think it was for a bit and I had to package 20.0.7 myself in order to get a version that didn’t have critical bugs to fix hardware acceleration for video play back.
How much daily use are you getting out of these systems right now?
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:28 am
by MAYBL8
For mine I am using it as my main system. If it becomes a big problem due to unstable I will stop using it.
I would like to keep it updated and running with the sid packages.
I can test whatever you want me to test if it helps.
I will report bugs to debian or to you guys if you want me to do that.
If using the packages in sid is testing then I am doing that for the packages I am using.
I am not testing every possible package there is. I don't have time for that.
Let me know if you want me to do something specific.
On packaging and such if that is what you want me to try you will have to guide me since I haven't done that before. I am willing to give anything a try.
I will add the test repo and see if that works.
Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)
Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:32 am
by MAYBL8
This is the repo list from my MX stable system:
I don't see the test repo here but it works.
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Repos: No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/balena-etcher.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
1: deb https://mirrors.evowise.com/mxlinux-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list