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Posted: **Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:00 pm**

Warren has uploaded a minor revision:

Hi Jerry,

I uploaded 11.9.92.

I fixed the CD init to use Plymouth.

Also did some minor tweaks so 32 and 64 have the same installed packages.

Best,

Warren

Posted: **Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:58 pm**

Downloaded the 64 bit version.
Ran mdsum--OK
Burned to 2G USB drive with unetbootin--OK
Inserted USB drive into computer at 6:38PM Anchorage time
Booted OK--Fast Too.
Installed to HDD
Failed to restart---Same as other previous betas
Hard reset
Booted into version 11.9.92--up & running by 6:50 PM Anchorage time--that is pretty darn quick, I think.
Haven't played with it much yet.
I checked synaptics, & the bug where after Mepis is selected and then checked again, prefer highest version
is automatically selected by the OS. If you then reselect Mepis, it stays as desired. I have reported this before--only a very minor irritant.

Thanks Warren

Jerry in Anchorage

Posted: **Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:48 am**

11.9.92 32-bit on Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Li 1818:
There are still 17 ghost drives in KinfoCenter. Installer freezes when finished and no automatic reboot.
Apart from that, M12 feels slightly more polished for every new release.
Haven't started testing yet, this was only a few first impressions.
The different help screens and tips in the installer need some serious proofreading. Typos like "Aafter you reboot" shouldn't be there.
And what happened to "Press F1 for help" when booting the live-DVD?
Henry

Posted: **Sun Aug 11, 2013 2:56 pm**

- 64-bit download from U of Crete mirror
- Loaded to USB flash with isohybrid/dd method
- Got missing media message on boot...failed
- Then added 'fromhd' cheat and booted fine...very fast
- Installed to HDD fine

Posted: **Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:41 pm**

. hey,
kernel and headers

match :thumup:

easy...

M12-live.jpg

yep, same repo... unetboo.. looks pretty nice.

concerning the panel ... quick launcher

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  root@mepis:~# inxi -Fr
System:    Host: mepis Kernel: 3.9-1-mepis64 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: KDE 4.8.4 Distro: MEPIS 12.0 wheezy
Machine:   System: HP Pavilion 061 product: PX181AV-ABA d4100y version: 0qn1211CT101LITHI00 serial: MXG52500B9 NA531 
           Mobo: ASUSTek model: LITHIUM version: 1.04 serial: MB-1234567890 Bios: Phoenix version: 3.07 date: 08/29/2005
CPU:       Dual core Intel Pentium D CPU (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2800.00 MHz 2: 2800.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA NV43 [GeForce 6600] 
           X.org: 1.12.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) tty size: 99x23 Advanced Data: N/A for root 
Audio:     Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.9-1-mepis64
Network:   Card: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family LAN Controller driver: e100 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1.10:75
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 164.0GB (3.3% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST3160023AS size: 160.0GB 
           2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: Cruzer size: 4.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 2.7G used: 253M (10%) fs: rootfs ID: /boot size: 3.9G used: 3.7G (97%) fs: ext4 
           ID: /home size: 3.9G used: 3.7G (97%) fs: ext4 ID: /usr size: 3.9G used: 3.7G (97%) fs: ext4 
           ID: /var size: 3.9G used: 3.7G (97%) fs: ext4 
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
           deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free
           deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mepis.list
           deb http://mepis.mirrorcatalogs.com/packages/mepis/ mepis-12.0 main
Info:      Processes: 131 Uptime: 3:26 Memory: 651.0/3018.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 1.9.12

Posted: **Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:54 pm**

Experiencing the same things with the non proper reboot. But it spits out the disk, and the reboot button does the rest.

Posted: **Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:49 pm**

Just took the 32 bit version for a quick spin on a USB stick that was made by Unetbootin. Used on a Dell Inspiron 1525, 2 GB RAM. Live Disk only, not installed.

No problems booting up.
Wireless connected and worked just fine.
Bluetooth mouse connected and worked just fine.
Any of the major programs that I would used opened and functioned.
Runs smooth and snappy.

One thing that needs to be updated, is in Iceweasel, the link to the community or forums is not correct. This may have been stated on previous version of the alpha/betas.

Posted: **Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:44 pm**

I downloaded and installed (HD install, not VB) both the 32- and 64-bit versions of .92. No problems (except for the intermitant crash when exiting the Live version; it happened 1 of the 2 installs), I then installed my normal suite of apps on both; again no problems and everything seems to be working.

The graphic while installing the live programs was a surprise (but I'm not sure it is better than the text scrolling up it covers). Installation of the live versions was very quick!

All installs were done from ROM keys written by the Mepis System program in the betas. That is a good program for making M12 keys (it won't do other distros). And, of course, I checked the MD5 of the downloaded files first.

Posted: **Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:13 am**

Well, 11.9.91 suddenly went bottom up (not encouraging), so I burned a DVD of this one and installed it. install all OK, though still hangs on exit from minstall, and reboot dumped me at a login prompt though LiveDVD did fine. I installed sgfxi and an Nvidia driver.

As with 11.9.91, the new driver seems to block plymouth somehow, so I get a minimal Debian screen during boot.

Posted: **Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:57 am**

Jerry3904 wrote:... I installed sgfxi and an Nvidia driver.

As with 11.9.91, the new driver seems to block plymouth somehow, so I get a minimal Debian screen during boot.

To get the Mepis 12 plymouth splash to show up when the proprietary nvidia driver is installed, I need to add the vga=xxx cheatcode (vga=791 in my case).

Edit the /etc/default/grub file and add the vga=xxx cheat to either the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line. Run update-grub afterward.

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:29 pm**

Just installed on my HP 8510p notebook. The HP suspend/resume fan bug ( related to this one... https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56591 and is fixed in 3.10 ) is of course present, but to my horror the 3.5 kernel, which works, has apparently been removed from the Mepis Repository.

I'm installing the 3.2 kernel as I type and we'll see how it goes; does anyone know if there is a repo with the 3.10 kernel? It was still 3.9 in Sid last I checked.

Edit; Synaptic didn't add the 3.2 entry to GRUB...

Edit again: update-grub2 worked, so 3.2 boots. It turns out I saved the 3.5 kernel packages, so I may try installing them later.

One more Edit; Gah! No wireless with 3.2.....

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:19 pm**

rschaffter wrote:Just installed on my HP 8510p notebook. The HP suspend/resume fan bug ( related to this one... https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56591 and is fixed in 3.10 ) is of course present, but to my horror the 3.5 kernel, which works, has apparently been removed from the Mepis Repository. :mad:

I did some searching around and found that the 3.5 kernel packages are still available on the mirrorservice.org mirror: http://mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.mepi ... n/l/linux/ They don't appear to be in the package lists though so you can't install them with apt-get or Synaptic, you would need to manually download the packages and then install them with dpkg or gdebi.

To install the kernel with headers I think you need the following packages
64bit:

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linux-headers-3.5-1-common_3.5.2-1_amd64.deb
linux-headers-3.5-1-mepis64_3.5.2-1_amd64.deb
linux-image-3.5-1-mepis64_3.5.2-1_amd64.deb
linux-kbuild-3.5_3.5-1_amd64.deb (in the ...pool/main/l/linux-tools/ directory)

32bit:

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linux-headers-3.5-1-common_3.5.2-1_i386.deb
linux-headers-3.5-1-mepis_3.5.2-1_i386.deb
linux-image-3.5-1-mepis_3.5.2-1_i386.deb 
linux-kbuild-3.5_3.5-1_i386.deb (in the ...pool/main/l/linux-tools/ directory)

I can't guarantee that the 3.5 kernel packages will remain on the mirrorservice.org mirror, there's a possibility they might be removed at any time.

rschaffter wrote:...does anyone know if there is a repo with the 3.10 kernel? It was still 3.9 in Sid last I checked.

The 3.9 kernel isn't in Sid anymore, the 3.10 kernel is. I haven't checked if the 3.10 Sid kernel is installable in M12/Wheezy or not (and it's not really a good idea to mix stable (Wheezy) and sid).

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:23 pm**

I found 3.10.5 in Unstable. On installation it gripes about missing firmware, but I have video and wireless, at least, and it sleeps and resumes properly.

EDIT: Thanx, kmathern. I have the 32 bit versions of those, so I'll grab the 64-bit ones...

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:37 pm**

Oops! Posted for wrong version.

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:03 pm**

. hey guys,

great work,
this is from a couple of nights ago and all appeared stable

and smooth even using nouveau careful full-size.

snapshot1-thm.png

i didn't check with kinfocenter (forgot) and did start the live usb with > vga=0x0318 added to the kernel line, which achieved the proper plymouth instead of the blue/white progress bar that we're all so familiar with.

thanks again

looks pretty darn sharp and will install as soon as i get around to that other hard drive that's on the floor (seagate barracuda 120) and decide about raid/or not :) probably not.

noticed kde4.11.0 coming down from :ninja:s yesterday, and couldn't help but wonder if we can do something with that or if debian has plans to come up shortly... stevo?

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:14 pm**

Nice! I'm now using 11.9.92 for production, with M11 as a backup in case anything goes wrong. Working well. I hope to see a KDE upgrade sometime, but this one causes no problems so I am in no hurry.

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:57 pm**

kmathern wrote:
Jerry3904 wrote:... I installed sgfxi and an Nvidia driver.

As with 11.9.91, the new driver seems to block plymouth somehow, so I get a minimal Debian screen during boot.
To get the Mepis 12 plymouth splash to show up when the proprietary nvidia driver is installed, I need to add the vga=xxx cheatcode (vga=791 in my case).

Edit the /etc/default/grub file and add the vga=xxx cheat to either the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line. Run update-grub afterward.

That did work, though the resulting splash is very low resolution. I had some trouble finding the correct code for my 2048x1152 monitor, but finally found a way: install hwinfo, then run as root:

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hwinfo --framebuffer | grep "Mode"

Then I took the code from the bottom of the output (though note difference resolution given):

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oot@BondDekstop:/home/jb# hwinfo --framebuffer | grep "Mode"
process 4201: arguments to dbus_move_error() were incorrect, assertion "(dest) == NULL || !dbus_error_is_set ((dest))" failed in file ../../dbus/dbus-errors.c line 282.
This is normally a bug in some application using the D-Bus library.
libhal.c 3483 : Error unsubscribing to signals, error=The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files
  Model: "Build    061010.3
  Mode 0x0300: 640x400 (+640), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0301: 640x480 (+640), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0303: 800x600 (+800), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0305: 1024x768 (+1024), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0307: 1280x1024 (+1280), 8 bits
  Mode 0x030e: 320x200 (+640), 16 bits
  Mode 0x030f: 320x200 (+1280), 24 bits
  Mode 0x0311: 640x480 (+1280), 16 bits
  Mode 0x0312: 640x480 (+2560), 24 bits
  Mode 0x0314: 800x600 (+1600), 16 bits
  Mode 0x0315: 800x600 (+3200), 24 bits
  Mode 0x0317: 1024x768 (+2048), 16 bits
  Mode 0x0318: 1024x768 (+4096), 24 bits
  Mode 0x031a: 1280x1024 (+2560), 16 bits
  Mode 0x031b: 1280x1024 (+5120), 24 bits
  Mode 0x0330: 320x200 (+320), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0331: 320x400 (+320), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0332: 320x400 (+640), 16 bits
  Mode 0x0333: 320x400 (+1280), 24 bits
  Mode 0x0334: 320x240 (+320), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0335: 320x240 (+640), 16 bits
  Mode 0x0336: 320x240 (+1280), 24 bits
  Mode 0x033d: 640x400 (+1280), 16 bits
  Mode 0x033e: 640x400 (+2560), 24 bits
  Mode 0x0345: 1600x1200 (+1600), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0346: 1600x1200 (+3200), 16 bits
  Mode 0x0347: 1400x1050 (+1400), 8 bits
  Mode 0x0348: 1400x1050 (+2800), 16 bits
  Mode 0x0352: 2048x1536 (+8192), 24 bits
root@BondDekstop:/home/jb#

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:20 pm**

@Jerry3904,

Does it show the full background image @2048x1536 (vga=0x0352) ?

With a monitor resolution of 2048x1152, I think you would lose part of the image on the left and/or right.

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:23 pm**

Left and right seemed right, but the smaller number must be the height, right? Top and bottom could have lost something in all that darkness that I would not have noticed.

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:29 pm**

Jerry3904 wrote:Left and right seemed right, but the smaller number must be the height, right? Top and bottom could have lost something in all that darkness that I would not have noticed.

Oops, I did mix them up. The first number's the width, 2048 pixels in your case.

Losing some of the image from the top and bottom might not be all that noticeable.

I forget, is there a Mepis Logo at the bottom?

edit: No logo, there's a "Press Esc for boot messages" in the lower right hand corner. Can you see it?

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:46 pm**

Yes. Everything is just fuzzy, but I don't really care much about the splash screen in the first place, since everything else is now humming along.

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:42 pm**

M12 11.9.92 64 is running fine on my Gateway NV59C laptop.
I used unetbootin for the install preserving my home.
The only issue is when I start konsole I get the following

bash: [: too many arguments
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
bash: [: too many arguments
bash: [: too many arguments
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
bash: [: =: unary operator expected
fred@mepislaptop1:~$

I've never seen that happen before. btw it also happens as root.

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:27 pm**

.hey big guy,

check here...

thanks team

Posted: **Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:48 pm**

loco wrote:.hey big guy,

check here...
thanks team

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried that but no joy :(

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:00 am**

Wrong address for the cr testrepo, Has section "testrepo" instead of "test". And the growing sources.list hasn't been fixed yet.
This is some kind of vacation release, not much changed and it's not getting very much testing.
Henry

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:59 am**

I will be posting a summary for us to work on today.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:09 am**

A few more corrections for the help and tips in the installer:
Fonts in Mepis Linux: The "Font installer" is now called "Font management" in System Settings.
"When in doubt, ask for advice at mepiscommunity.org", should be more useful if changed to forum.mepiscommunity.org
Henry

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:14 am**

Yeah, he keeps getting that URL wrong.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:19 am**

Utopia wrote:A few more corrections for the help and tips in the installer:
Fonts in Mepis Linux: The "Font installer" is now called "Font management" in System Settings.
"When in doubt, ask for advice at mepiscommunity.org", should be more useful if changed to forum.mepiscommunity.org
Henry

The command below might help your proofreading, I think it displays most of the messages that come up during the install.

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strings /usr/sbin/minstall | grep -e '<p><b>' -e '</span>'| sed 's|<p><b>|\n|g;s|</b><br/>|\n|g;s|</p><p>|\n|g;s|</p>|\n|g;s|<p>|\n|g;s|</b>||g' | cut -f3 -d\> | cut -f1 -d\<

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:53 am**

Thanks, it's working for most parts of the text. The missing parts is where I think the errors are. They're probably added later.
Henry

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:11 pm**

Utopia wrote:Thanks, it's working for most parts of the text. The missing parts is where I think the errors are. They're probably added later.
Henry

This might show the "missing parts". It will also show other strings for the cli commands and python/qt4 code mingled in. With the 'grep -v' command at the end I've tried to filter out the most commonly occurring strings that make the output look like nonsense.

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strings /usr/sbin/minstall | sed 's|<p><b>|\n|g;s|</b><br/>|\n|g;s|</p><p>|\n|g;s|</p>|\n|g;s|<p>|\n|g;s|</b>||g' | cut -f3 -d\> | cut -f1 -d\< | grep -v -e ^_ -e ^D[$] -e ^UWVS -e ^t[$] -e ^[[,#,@,+,\\,\(,\),\|,\&,\^,\%] -e '()'$ -e QProcess

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:52 pm**

Utopia wrote: This is some kind of vacation release, not much changed and it's not getting very much testing.
Henry

I noticed that. With my ponderous DSL, it takes over two hours to download so I decided to pass on this one and wait for more substantive changes.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:12 pm**

This might show the "missing parts"

.
Yes, kind of. It shows a lot of text that isn't displayed. The newer text blocks, linked to the main body of the text, still doesn't show up.
If I remember correctly, that's how Warren adds new stuff.
But you don't have to work on that, I'll go through it when the next release comes. The advantage of having a very slow laptop is that it takes an hour and a half to install. That gives plenty of time to proofread.
But it wasn't completely in vain, found something in the copyright message that ought to be fixed. A reference to http://www.mepis.org/source, a page that doesn't exist. Does it mean the source code can't be downloaded anymore? Or has it moved?
Henry

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:40 pm**

Utopia wrote:
A reference to http://www.mepis.org/source, a page that doesn't exist. Does it mean the source code can't be downloaded anymore? Or has it moved?
Henry

I'll ask, thanks.

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:58 pm**

Another proofreading command.
Got rid of the cut commands because they were cutting out some text that shouldn't have been removed, replaced them with a sed command to remove the html-like tags.
Filtered (grepped) out some additional nonsense stuff.
Tried to double space the output to make it easier to distinguish one message from another, the installer probably shows the messages without the added newlines.

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strings /usr/sbin/minstall | sed 's|<p><b>|\n|g;s|</b><br/>|\n|g;s|</p><p>|\n|g;s|</p>|\n|g;s|<p>|\n|g;s|</b>|\n|g' | grep -v -e ^D[$] -e ^UWVS -e '()'$ -e QProcess -e MeInstall -e MMain -e MInstall -e MeMain -e '/mepis/' -e '/mnt/' -e 'rm ' -e 'cp -' -e 'mv -' -e'/dev/' -e 'bin/' -e '/usr/' -e mkdir -e white-space -e ^'Step_' -e '(bool)' -e WStackPage | sed 's/<[^>]\+>//g' | grep -e ^[A-Z] -e ^[0-9] -e ^' ' | sed 's/[[:space:]]*$//' | sed 's|[.]$|.\n|;s|[?]$|?\n|;s|[\!]|\!\n|;s|source$|source\n|;s|Time$|Time\n|;s|gov/$|gov/\n|' | grep root -A999

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:28 am**

Without "F1 for help" at the GRUB screen, how is anyone supposed to figure out which cheatcodes can be used in M12? Couldn't find a text file either, was looking for Kernel-boot-parameters.txt or similar names. Is this something that can added to the summary for Warren?
Henry

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:05 am**

done, thanks

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:53 am**

Utopia wrote:Without "F1 for help" at the GRUB screen, how is anyone supposed to figure out which cheatcodes can be used in M12? Couldn't find a text file either, was looking for Kernel-boot-parameters.txt or similar names. Is this something that can added to the summary for Warren?
Henry

Sort of on the same topic, the MEPIS32_12.0 (Safe Mode) boot option includes a 'xmodule=vesa' cheatcode.

As far as I can tell the cheat doesn't do anything. When I boot from 'Safe Mode' the vesa driver is used with or without that cheat. I also can't see that it gets acted on in any of the scripts in the initrd file.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:06 am**

Just sent off the testing report, so this will have to go on the next one once we get cheatcodes listed on the grub screen.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:43 pm**

You already sent the summary to Warren so here's an item for the next round.

Using my proofreading command I stumbled upon this message in the installer

Custom Install on Existing Partitions
MEPIS will be installed on the existing partitions you choose. If the disk isn't already partitioned appropriately, you can modify the partitions now with PartitionManager. If you modify the partitions, it is best to reboot the system before continuing with the installation. Do NOT use a Linux partioning tool if you are installing on an Apple computer boot drive. Instead you must setup your partitions and boot manager in OSX before installing MEPIS. The SimplyMEPIS Assistant is an OSX application available on the MEPIS DVD to help you prepare your OSX boot volume for MEPIS Linux.

I don't see a OSX folder with the "SimplyMEPIS Assistant.app.zip" file in a loop mounted ISO file, or on my LiveUSB key.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:32 pm**

Inherited from Siduction, Take note Jerry,

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:05 pm**

Of what, exactly? Not following you here.

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:22 pm**

Jerry3904 wrote:Of what, exactly? Not following you here.

http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 29#p321229

Posted: **Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:40 pm**

rschaffter wrote:I found 3.10.5 in Unstable. On installation it gripes about missing firmware, but I have video and wireless, at least, and it sleeps and resumes properly.

EDIT: Thanx, kmathern. I have the 32 bit versions of those, so I'll grab the 64-bit ones...

@rschaffter,
Just noticed this message on the debian-backports-changes list, the 3.10.5 kernel has been accepted to be added to the wheezy-backports repo: http://lists.debian.org/debian-backport ... 00028.html

This is the backport repo sources.list entry (you can use a different locale than 'us')

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

Posted: **Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:21 am**

While installing today I noticed in the tips under " Network Configuration, Fonts in Mepis Linux & Additional System Configuration " pointing to the start menu > System Settings > XXX. Should this not read start menu > Settings > System Settings. Not sure if Utopia has mentioned this before.

Posted: **Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:40 am**

Not sure if Utopia has mentioned this before.

No, I didn't even see it. Usually I can spot very small errors, but sometimes can't see the big ones.
There's a lot more to be found. The part about the cryptographic export restrictions is outdated, with a not working URL and an old country list. But who reads that?
The broken URL to the source code is more important, it could violate some GPL rules.
Henry

Posted: **Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:04 pm**

kmathern wrote:
rschaffter wrote:I found 3.10.5 in Unstable. On installation it gripes about missing firmware, but I have video and wireless, at least, and it sleeps and resumes properly.

EDIT: Thanx, kmathern. I have the 32 bit versions of those, so I'll grab the 64-bit ones...
@rschaffter,
Just noticed this message on the debian-backports-changes list, the 3.10.5 kernel has been accepted to be added to the wheezy-backports repo: http://lists.debian.org/debian-backport ... 00028.html

This is the backport repo sources.list entry (you can use a different locale than 'us')
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

Thanx for this! I had to update GRUB2 manually when I installed it, but it works just fine. :)

Posted: **Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:25 pm**

Could I request that the Mepis Network Assistant be included in the next beta version? I found it valuable in configuring wifi in Mepis 11.

Regards,
Peter Stone

Posted: **Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:41 pm**

Only part of it is useful at this point, and Network Manager is more dependable. I doubt that Warren will put any effort into it, but you never know.

Posted: **Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:58 pm**

FWIW
I can't get the 64 bit version to boot. It's like there isn't any disk in the drive. In Dolphin it looks normal to me.

32 bit will (after a long time) boot to logon in Safe Mode. However minstall will not start at all. Konsole says there's some missing file. Same sort of thing as before. I can put the file (empty) in place and then I don't get an error. Only a blinking cursor with no error noted.

MD5sums were checked. Verification was used. No errors on the burn. I'm not interested in a USB FlashDrive try.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:20 am**

I have booted & installed the 64bit from a Unetbootin usb / dvd with no issues. The dvd was burnt with the new k3b in M12 which I have on VBox. I also did the usb from that install as well.

Posted: **Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:33 pm**

I use Western Digital 3TB hdd with Mepis beta together with Digikam (formatted with parted). I also use crossover and Photoshop and other windows photo editors with it. All works fine. I am a finnish Mepis user so I change KDE to finnish (task-finnish, task-finnish-desktop, task-finnish-kde-desktop ja kde-l10n-fi and change the keyboard to finnish). I use the finnish debian reposities (deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main, deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main).

Also following are available:
# ftp.fi.debian.org
# ftp.funet.fi
# ftp.jyu.fi

Posted: **Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:00 am**

I've only now found time to look at this release. 64-bit Live runs well and installation was fine, although it took a full 20 minutes. The usual hang on reboot, but otherwise everything seems to work. I haven't done much tinkering, but I haven't found anything untoward. My hanging boot problems with earlier releases seem to have disappeared.

I'm using 11.9.90-64 as my production system and 11.9.91-32 on my netbook, and I will probably leave it at that until the final release.

Phil

Posted: **Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:46 am**

Here is one way to install Firefox:

apt-get remove iceweasel

Edit etc/apt/sources.list and add

deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import

apt-get update
apt-get install firefox
apt-get install firefox-l10n-en-us or apt-get install firefox-l10n-fi (finnish!)

Posted: **Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:25 am**

Can't say that ever occurred to me!

Posted: **Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:48 am**

Jerry3904 wrote:Can't say that ever occurred to me!

Yes and Mint will welcome you doing so,

think:- search engine-page hits= cash in the bank for Mint.

Posted: **Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:16 am**

Thanks for your comments...Mint version of Firefox includes Amazon search engine.

I would be very pleased if Mepis 12 have newer version of Digikam. KWheezy has 3.2 version:

http://www.kwheezy.com/en/weblog/2013/0 ... 2-updated/

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:35 pm**

Is it possible to have KMplayer not installed as the default media player and use VLC Media player instead? Like no KMplayer on the live disk.

Just thinking out the final product and not the fact that it can be changed. I just find that KMplayer does not meet my needs and more often than not, it will not work on a lot of video/audio files, at least for me, whereas VLC does.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:48 pm**

smilliken wrote:Is it possible to have KMplayer not installed as the default media player and use VLC Media player instead? Like no KMplayer on the live disk.

Just thinking out the final product and not the fact that it can be changed. I just find that KMplayer does not meet my needs and more often than not, it will not work on a lot of video/audio files, at least for me, whereas VLC does.

KMplayer isn't installed in M11.9.92 from what I can see (I'm not running in it right now). Are you still using the Mepis 11.0 install that you upgraded?

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:52 pm**

kmathern wrote:
smilliken wrote:Is it possible to have KMplayer not installed as the default media player and use VLC Media player instead? Like no KMplayer on the live disk.

Just thinking out the final product and not the fact that it can be changed. I just find that KMplayer does not meet my needs and more often than not, it will not work on a lot of video/audio files, at least for me, whereas VLC does.
KMplayer isn't installed in M11.9.92 from what I can see (I'm not running in it right now). Are you still using the Mepis 11.0 install that you upgraded?

No it was just a thought. Wasn't sure if it was going to show up in the final version. Just know I've had some grieve with most of my installs in the past.

And no it is not installed on my M12 installs.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:50 pm**

All I can say is wow and OMG.

New system

MSI Z68A-GD55 G3 MB

i3 ivy 3.4 Ghz

16 gigs of kingston Hyper X Genisis ( I love virtual box)

SeaSonic PS G series (G450)

ocZ ssd Agility 2 ( not sure if it will stay)

New system so nothing else was installed as of yet

Loaded from a unetbootin flash stick (Sandisk 8G Cruzer Blade) after deleting any ans all sandisk stuff

To get to the demo desktop took 17 mins, what a wait!

When I clicked install it took a little over 3 HOURS to install. What the

EDIT: I was installing M12 11.9.92 (64) Does anyone use 32 bit on new equipment?

After it finished it's install I shut down , removed the stick and rebooted.

First boot on a clean new system with the uefi took about 10 mins.

Sut down after the succesful boot and restarted.

YESSSSSSS everything settled down and now it takes about 12 SECONDS yes seconds to go from power switch to auto log in desktop :)

Every thing works well so far except my Logitech K400r wireless keyboard with touch pad.
Sometimes keystrokes drop out and the touch pad is jerky and slow enough to be a hinderance. Yes sadly it functions perfectly with that other op system and at three times the distance (18 feet) that i have been trying to get it to work with Mepis.

EDIT: it was a timing issue, the boot time out raced the dongle being ready for the driver, works excellent when you restart the driver so it's time to make a script to remove and restart the driver a bit later. (Thanks to timkb4cq) He serarched faster than me lol

All in all this is an excellent release so far and it's time to add in a Hauppauge 2250 dual tuner card.
2 1T 2.5 10,000 rpm drives stripped raid
Slim laptop blue ray drive (Fractal node 605 case)
internal usb hub to hide the blue tooth dongle, logitech unifying dongle and one maybe two flash sticks

After the disapointing load time and install time it has turned out to be excellent and worth the agony of waiting.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:14 pm**

I've seen some threads about problems with that keyboard & debian. In a terminal, try

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su
rmmod hid-logitech-dj
modprobe hid-logitech-dj

It seems to be a timing problem where the driver tried to initialize the receiver before it's ready. If the above commands fix the issue you can put them in a script with an appropriate sleep command between to let the receiver settle.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:21 pm**

That makes sense with the ssd and such a fast boot time. It's a race and the wireless dongle loses.

I think I will do the same for the blue tooth dongle.

I've been searching for the answer Thank you.

Edit: Yep that works, it was a losing race and it even happened with the blue tooth.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:04 pm**

[quote="GDixon"]All I can say is wow and OMG.

Loaded from a unetbootin flash stick (Sandisk 8G Cruzer Blade) after deleting any ans all sandisk stuff

To get to the demo desktop took 17 mins, what a wait!

When I clicked install it took a little over 3 HOURS to install. What the

EDIT: I was installing M12 11.9.92 (64) Does anyone use 32 bit on new equipment?

After it finished it's install I shut down , removed the stick and rebooted.

First boot on a clean new system with the uefi took about 10 mins.

Those stats should be world records. I have never seen times like those in all the years of using Linux. Even when using my old clunky DVD player I can be booted up & installed within 30 mins.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:32 pm**

timkb4cq wrote:I've seen some threads about problems with that keyboard & debian. In a terminal, try
Code: Select all
su
rmmod hid-logitech-dj
modprobe hid-logitech-dj
It seems to be a timing problem where the driver tried to initialize the receiver before it's ready. If the above commands fix the issue you can put them in a script with an appropriate sleep command between to let the receiver settle.

Just saw this and it may or may not have any bearing on what I'm dealing with.

Acer Aspire M5-581T-6807. This was purchased new by my niece last fall. I got it three or four months ago with a totally corrupted load of W8. Could not launch any of the recovery tools from within the OS or through the bios. Of course, no recovery media was made when she boughtt it. After she did absolutely nothing about either buying the recovery media or buying a load of W7, I decided to take matters into my own hands. I took it down to bare metal and loaded Wheezy KDE.

This machine has a 500G sata drive as HD0, and a 20G SSD as HD1. The SSD held two partitions, neither of which I could access, but I assume it held either the "Instant On" stuff this came with or maybe one of the recovery tools that didn't work. Both drives got blown away, and I loaded the root on HD1 and home on HD0. Boots lightening fast, and programs open in the blink of an eye.

The trackpad doesn't work worth a darn. It's all hurky jerky, and the weirdest thing is you can't resize windows. If you grab an edge or a corner with the left mouse button and then try to drag it, nothing happens -- the pointer doesn't move and the edge or corner stays put. It works perfectly fine with a plugged in USB mouse. I've got kde-config-touchpad installed, and nothing in there helps or even makes a difference.

Any chance this could be related to the situated reported upthread? Like the thing loading the desktop before the necessary trackpad modules are ready? Or something? Do I sound desperate?

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:54 pm**

A little research indicates that Laptop has an Elantech touchpad. This page at Arch Linux may have the answer - it's being detected as a ps/2 mouse instead of a touchpad...

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:24 pm**

timkb4cq wrote:A little research indicates that Laptop has an Elantech touchpad. This page at Arch Linux may have the answer - it's being detected as a ps/2 mouse instead of a touchpad...

Okay, that says I need the psmouse-elantech package, which is a tar.gz. I've downloaded and extracted it, but have no idea what to do with it.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:45 pm**

uncle mark wrote:
timkb4cq wrote:A little research indicates that Laptop has an Elantech touchpad. This page at Arch Linux may have the answer - it's being detected as a ps/2 mouse instead of a touchpad...
Okay, that says I need the psmouse-elantech package, which is a tar.gz. I've downloaded and extracted it, but have no idea what to do with it.

I have a simialr situation with my Acer V5-572G, except the touchpad does not work at all.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:47 pm**

It's a patch to the psmouse module that is installed using dkms. See here:
http://redoem.com/2011/07/04/enable-ful ... in-ubuntu/

However this may not work. The original elantech issue I found was reported to be fixed in the 3.0.2 kernel - although it appears to have been broken again by the time the 3.8 kernel came out.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:57 pm**

I've found a newer thread on this. Fixes for some elantech touchpad issues have been accepted into the mainline 3.11 kernel. Ubuntu kernels (and headers) with the relevant patches have been built for Precise (3.2), Quantal (3.5) , Raring (3.

& Saucy (3.10). Could be worth a try.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... mments/100

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:52 pm**

No kidding on a new record...I've always been done with a fresh install in 10 to 15 min tops

But patience paid off.

Had to hunt down firmware for the Hauppauge 2250 tuner but got it into the /lib/firmware directory and am now watching tv with kaffeine. next step is to hook it up to the real tv and see whats what .

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:29 pm**

timkb4cq wrote:I've found a newer thread on this. Fixes for some elantech touchpad issues have been accepted into the mainline 3.11 kernel. Ubuntu kernels (and headers) with the relevant patches have been built for Precise (3.2), Quantal (3.5) , Raring (3. & Saucy (3.10). Could be worth a try.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... mments/100

Thanks for your interest, Tim, but that stuff is above my pay grade.

Niece is getting a load of Mint KDE 15. (Mint KDE 13 LTS had the same problem.) Posting from it now. I've been impressed with it before, and did in fact use it for a new desktop build I did for a paying customer recently. Yes, I'd prefer to use MEPIS or even straight Debian, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. At least with Linux we've got a lot of good choices.

Posted: **Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:34 pm**

uncle mark wrote:
timkb4cq wrote:I've found a newer thread on this. Fixes for some elantech touchpad issues have been accepted into the mainline 3.11 kernel. Ubuntu kernels (and headers) with the relevant patches have been built for Precise (3.2), Quantal (3.5) , Raring (3. & Saucy (3.10). Could be worth a try.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... mments/100
Thanks for your interest, Tim, but that stuff is above my pay grade.

Niece is getting a load of Mint KDE 15. (Mint KDE 13 LTS had the same problem.) Posting from it now. I've been impressed with it before, and did in fact use it for a new desktop build I did for a paying customer recently. Yes, I'd prefer to use MEPIS or even straight Debian, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. At least with Linux we've got a lot of good choices.

The problem is not distro related but kernel related. I have it in Kubuntu 13.04. I tried that kernel but had the same problem. UM you just install the debs and update-grub. I also installed a 3.10 kernel and no fix.

EDIT: Actually probably kernel/driver/xorg or evdev related.

Posted: **Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:00 am**

richb wrote: The problem is not distro related but kernel related. I have it in Kubuntu 13.04.
(...)
EDIT: Actually probably kernel/driver/xorg or evdev related.

I get that. All I can tell you is Wheezy and Mint 13 have the problem; Mint 15 does not. (Odd that Kub 13.04 has it, since Mint 15 is based of Ub 13.04.)

Posted: **Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:19 am**

uncle mark wrote:
richb wrote: The problem is not distro related but kernel related. I have it in Kubuntu 13.04.
(...)
EDIT: Actually probably kernel/driver/xorg or evdev related.
I get that. All I can tell you is Wheezy and Mint 13 have the problem; Mint 15 does not. (Odd that Kub 13.04 has it, since Mint 15 is based of Ub 13.04.)

What kernel and xorg server is Mint 15 using? Does it have an xorg.conf file? And is there an options.conf file in etc/modeprobe.d? I was able to get basic functions (cursor movement and clicks) to work by adding an options.conf file to /etc/modprobe.d with the line "options psmouse proto=imps". It causes the clickpad to be recognized as a mouse.

Posted: **Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:05 pm**

I found the problem with boot and install times with the sandisk cuzer blade 8g flash key..
Do not use unetbootin to make a bottable key.
After getting everything working and working very well indeed on this new system I popped the key in and re did it using the Mepis usb key maker and problem solved.

bootable key times are now as one would expect in both booting and installing.

Has anyone try the talking clock yet? It seems jovie still has unresolved bugs?

Posted: **Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:41 am**

I've run into a curious problem but don't know if it is a M12 B2 problem or what. I am now using the second beta as a production OS, and have it pretty well working as I would like. I upgraded LibreOffice this morning, created a link to soffice in the menu so I could remove all the other entries and just get the portal, and that works both from the menu and from a terminal. I then unlocked widgets, dragged that soffice link to my Quicklaunch, but clicking on that icon gives me an error:

Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///home/jb/.local/share/applications/LibreOffice%25204.desktop does not exist.

I checked for the file, and it is there (assuming %2520 is coding for the space) with the following content:

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[Desktop Entry]
Comment=
Exec=/opt/libreoffice4.1/program/soffice
GenericName=Office suite
Icon=libreoffice4
Name=LibreOffice 4.1
NoDisplay=false
Path[$e]=
StartupNotify=true
Terminal=0
TerminalOptions=
Type=Application
X-KDE-SubstituteUID=false
X-KDE-Username=

Clicking on that entry also fires up the portal screen. I tried logging out and in, but no change. Any thoughts?

EDIT: finally reinstalled after deleting the desktop file, now works as usual.

Posted: **Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:48 pm**

M 11.9.92-64 bit won't run Google Earth ; M 11.9.91-64 bit will. I had remarked on this in another thread, but I thought at that time it was some change in the libraries that was causing the problem.

But I have now located a USB key with the M 11.9.91-64b ISO still on it and installed it to a spare partition. GE still works on that; but does not on .92. So the problem must be in the M 11.9.92-64b ISO.

M 11.9.92-32b is fine with GE.

Burt

Posted: **Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:43 pm**

It appears that something was different in the 64 bit version. There have been other problems noted.

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:49 am**

Apparently the problem with GE in the 64-bit version is in "ia32-libs" itself. I have tried to figure out how to copy that package from .91, but so far no joy.

Burt

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:08 pm**

Try installing ia32-libs-gtk to get GE up and running.

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:18 pm**

Used UNetbootin to create an USB stick, 11.9.92-64. I took a couple of hours to do. Not sure why it took so long.

Installed on my HP-DV4 without any problems. Bluetooth, wireless and everyother item seem to pickup just fine. What I did notice, is my GRUB menu is missing the entry for my Windows 8. I've poked around the files and searched the internet for some help, but it looks like it is going to need the UID number? The menu does have my recovery partition on it, but I would like to add the real partition to get to Windows.

Any simple way to add this?

Going to start to add some packages and play around.

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:23 pm**

Right click on a partition in Gparted, choose information, and it will show the UUID #

or from the Konsole

su -c blkid

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:30 pm**

I tried "update-grub" and it found the partition and added to the menu.

I was hoping it would be this easy. Going to have to learn this new grub menu and the UUID stuff.

This doesn't have anything to do with the beta, but I was trying to set up konsole and there was a post sometime a go by Brook, I think, that shows you how to make the text red when you change from normal user to su. Tried to search the forums, but I'm coming up with a blank.

Not crazy about the white background that comes with the beta. That's easily changeable.

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:30 pm**

[quote="smilliken"]but I was trying to set up konsole and there was a post sometime a go by Brook, I think, that shows you how to make the text red when you change from normal user to su. Tried to search the forums, but I'm coming up with a blank./quote]
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:12 pm**

GDixon wrote:I found the problem with boot and install times with the sandisk cuzer blade 8g flash key..
Do not use unetbootin to make a bottable key.
After getting everything working and working very well indeed on this new system I popped the key in and re did it using the Mepis usb key maker and problem solved.

bootable key times are now as one would expect in both booting and installing.

Has anyone try the talking clock yet? It seems jovie still has unresolved bugs?

I installed the kdeaccessiblity package to see it that helps, but instead of the time, I get a voice telling me that i have voice synthesis working and to read some log file.

I did a fresh install over my upgraded system due to some unresolved bugs, and this time am just using the xorg Radeon drivers for the integrated ATI chipset. HD video playback seems better, and the open GL performance seems about the same at the drivers built by sgfxi, with less hassle. I used the isohybrid method to create a USB key, but had to add the "fromhd" cheat to the boot line to get it to boot correctly. Google Earth from Google installs and works fine after it installs 140 packages on 64-bit.

Has anyone else with a problem Android 4.X device tested connectivity with the new kio-mtp/libmtp9 in the test CR? I think Warren should add it to the release, as it's tiny and adds functionality.

Posted: **Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:01 pm**

Danum wrote:
smilliken wrote:but I was trying to set up konsole and there was a post sometime a go by Brook, I think, that shows you how to make the text red when you change from normal user to su. Tried to search the forums, but I'm coming up with a blank./quote]
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt

Lookss as tho there is a missing package that Arch has. Pacman? All I get is the game.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:59 am**

smilliken wrote:
Danum wrote:
smilliken wrote:but I was trying to set up konsole and there was a post sometime a go by Brook, I think, that shows you how to make the text red when you change from normal user to su. Tried to search the forums, but I'm coming up with a blank./quote]
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Color_Bash_Prompt
Lookss as tho there is a missing package that Arch has. Pacman? All I get is the game.

Open Dolphin as root,
> root, Show Hidden Files, Backup bashrc, open bashrc with Kwrite and edit, as per the picture,
the lines you need to edit is in both instancess is.PS1, replace with the code below.

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PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '

You can also use a wallpaper as the background, and setup a theme by editing the current profile in konsole, as below

Pacman
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:49 am**

smilliken wrote:This doesn't have anything to do with the beta, but I was trying to set up konsole and there was a post sometime a go by Brooko, I think, that shows you how to make the text red when you change from normal user to su. Tried to search the forums, but I'm coming up with a blank.

I thought it was in the Wiki - might have been in the old forums - I couldn't find it either.

Here's what was in my notes:

2. As root navigate to /root folder and create new file .bashrc
Add following line -
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export PS1="\[\e[1;31m\]\u[\w]\\$ \[\e[m\] "
This makes my root text red in a konsole.

3. Create new file .bashrc in your own /home/yourusername directory
Add following line -
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export PS1="\e[1;32m\u[\w]\\$ \e[m "
This makes my text green (as normal user) in konsole

Not sure if it still works the same - I have no MEPIS install any more to test. I was waiting for 12 to show some signs of going final before trying it in vbox - but I've given up waiting. This current 'cycle' unfortunately reinforces to me the state of MEPIS. It's a pity really - he had offers of plenty of help from a lot of people when I was still around. He chose not to take advantage of them. It's no wonder so many people left, and so many others are using a different distro.

For anyone wondering - I went back to Windows, am currently using 8 - and have no regrets. I still miss KDE, and will no doubt go back again (probably Debian or Kubuntu) when it suits. In the meantime - the machine 'just works' - and better, I can work from home (connect with our server) without jumping through hoops.

I really hope you guys get some more action from WW soon. So much promise ...... such a waste of potential.

I still call into the forums a couple of times a week to see what is happening. It's nice to see that a lot of the hard-core community has stayed on.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:00 am**

[quote="Brooko"]
For anyone wondering - I went back to Windows, am currently using 8 - and have no regrets. I still miss KDE, and will no doubt go back again (probably Debian or Kubuntu) when it suits. In the meantime - the machine 'just works' - and better, I can work from home (connect with our server) without jumping through hoops.

To the dark side. Kind of like Napoleon joining the Royal Navy.

Seriously, nice to hear from you. Just tried your console suggestion in Kubuntu and it works, so it should be distro neutral..

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:17 am**

Thanks Rich - for checking the code.

Still amuses me (over last 12 months or so) when I've seen thread after thread pop up regarding Windows and how bad it is. From a reasonably hard-core Linux user - the step back into "Windows world" actually wasn't too bad - for this kid anyway. Installs are still the worst - Linux makes installing and updating so easy - so Windows is just more time consuming in that manner. But the trade offs for me are:
- software and hardware works and acts the way it's supposed to without workarounds
- being able to go back to MS Office again (personal preference - just do not like Libre Office)
- gaming
- the kids stuff just works without freezing / glitching etc

I do miss the flexibility of Linux though.

And if you think my step back into the 'dark-side' is bad - I've even contemplated jumping the fence from time to time and checking out the OSX eco-system

Time will tell. Hows the golf? My handicap is sadly heading up again. Can't hit it off the tee to save myself at the moment

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:20 am**

richb wrote:Just tried your console suggestion in Kubuntu and it works, so it should be distro neutral..

I do hope you have backed up the original bashrc files, because at some time the system will/may need to implement what is in it, which is why you edit the original one, not make a new one, and that applies to Kununtu and Debian.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:22 am**

Danum wrote:
richb wrote:Just tried your console suggestion in Kubuntu and it works, so it should be distro neutral..
I do hope you have backed up the original bashrc files, because at some time the system will/may need to implement what is in it, which is why you edit the original one, not make a new one, and that applies to Kununtu and Debian.

I did edit the original by adding the one line.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:30 am**

richb wrote:
Danum wrote:
richb wrote:Just tried your console suggestion in Kubuntu and it works, so it should be distro neutral..
I do hope you have backed up the original bashrc files, because at some time the system will/may need to implement what is in it, which is why you edit the original one, not make a new one, and that applies to Kununtu and Debian.
I did edit the original by adding the one line.

Then you did not follow Brooko's post, because if you create a new .bashrc file it will over write the original one,

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2. As root navigate to /root folder and create new file .bashrc

3. Create new file .bashrc in your own /home/yourusername directory
Add following line -

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:37 am**

Then you did not follow Brooko's post, because if you create a new .bashrc file it will over write the original one,
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2. As root navigate to /root folder and create new file .bashrc

3. Create new file .bashrc in your own /home/yourusername directory
Add following line -
		

No I did not since there was already a bashrc I felt it prudent not to overwrite it.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:36 am**

My 64-bit Google Earth problem is solved! The USB key Ihad used to install the OS on all 3 of my systems was failing. It did not create any errors I found except the one in GE. Then I started to wonder if it could be the problem, so I rewrote the key - and was greeted with several errors. I have now bought a new key and written M11.9.92_64 on it. When I used this to reinstall the 64bit M12 OP system, it would then run GE! (I filed the key I had been using in the circular file.)

Burt

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:24 pm**

BurtHulland wrote:My 64-bit Google Earth problem is solved! The USB key Ihad used to install the OS on all 3 of my systems was failing. It did not create any errors I found except the one in GE. Then I started to wonder if it could be the problem, so I rewrote the key - and was greeted with several errors. I have now bought a new key and written M11.9.92_64 on it. When I used this to reinstall the 64bit M12 OP system, it would then run GE! (I filed the key I had been using in the circular file.)

I hate it when that happens.

I love it when a bootable USB is working properly, but for me anyway it's easier most of the time to burn a disk.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:34 pm**

richb wrote:
Then you did not follow Brooko's post, because if you create a new .bashrc file it will over write the original one,
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2. As root navigate to /root folder and create new file .bashrc

3. Create new file .bashrc in your own /home/yourusername directory
Add following line -
		
No I did not since there was already a bashrc I felt it prudent not to overwrite it.

Funny, in my home folder .bashrc in Kubuntu, I found this:

# uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; turned
# off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
# should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt
#force_color_prompt=yes

Uncommented the "force_color_prompt=yes" and magic, the user bash line is green.

Seems that there are a four more bash.bashrc files to look at, that seem to be the system wide settings.

I wonder if the .bashrc in the user folder could be copied into my other Deb distros and work.
This is something to play with later.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 12:42 pm**

What was in mine below. I only added the last line.

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# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files (in the package bash-doc)
# for examples

# If not running interactively, don't do anything
case $- in
    *i*) ;;
      *) return;;
esac

# don't put duplicate lines or lines starting with space in the history.
# See bash(1) for more options
HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth

# append to the history file, don't overwrite it
shopt -s histappend

# for setting history length see HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE in bash(1)
HISTSIZE=1000
HISTFILESIZE=2000

# check the window size after each command and, if necessary,
# update the values of LINES and COLUMNS.
shopt -s checkwinsize

# If set, the pattern "**" used in a pathname expansion context will
# match all files and zero or more directories and subdirectories.
#shopt -s globstar

# make less more friendly for non-text input files, see lesspipe(1)
[ -x /usr/bin/lesspipe ] && eval "$(SHELL=/bin/sh lesspipe)"

# set variable identifying the chroot you work in (used in the prompt below)
if [ -z "${debian_chroot:-}" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then
    debian_chroot=$(cat /etc/debian_chroot)
fi

# set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
case "$TERM" in
    xterm-color) color_prompt=yes;;
esac

# uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; turned
# off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
# should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt
#force_color_prompt=yes

if [ -n "$force_color_prompt" ]; then
    if [ -x /usr/bin/tput ] && tput setaf 1 >&/dev/null; then
	# We have color support; assume it's compliant with Ecma-48
	# (ISO/IEC-6429). (Lack of such support is extremely rare, and such
	# a case would tend to support setf rather than setaf.)
	color_prompt=yes
    else
	color_prompt=
    fi
fi

if [ "$color_prompt" = yes ]; then
    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '
else
    PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
fi
unset color_prompt force_color_prompt

# If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir
case "$TERM" in
xterm*|rxvt*)
    PS1="\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1"
    ;;
*)
    ;;
esac

# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
if [ -x /usr/bin/dircolors ]; then
    test -r ~/.dircolors && eval "$(dircolors -b ~/.dircolors)" || eval "$(dircolors -b)"
    alias ls='ls --color=auto'
    #alias dir='dir --color=auto'
    #alias vdir='vdir --color=auto'

    alias grep='grep --color=auto'
    alias fgrep='fgrep --color=auto'
    alias egrep='egrep --color=auto'
fi

# some more ls aliases
alias ll='ls -alF'
alias la='ls -A'
alias l='ls -CF'

# Add an "alert" alias for long running commands.  Use like so:
#   sleep 10; alert
alias alert='notify-send --urgency=low -i "$([ $? = 0 ] && echo terminal || echo error)" "$(history|tail -n1|sed -e '\''s/^\s*[0-9]\+\s*//;s/[;&|]\s*alert$//'\'')"'

# Alias definitions.
# You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
# See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package.

if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then
    . ~/.bash_aliases
fi

# enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable
# this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile
# sources /etc/bash.bashrc).
if ! shopt -oq posix; then
  if [ -f /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion ]; then
    . /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
  elif [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
    . /etc/bash_completion
  fi
fi
export PS1="\e[1;32m\u[\w]\\$ \e[m "

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:19 pm**

richb wrote:What was in mine below. I only added the last line.

Which is a typical Mepis 12 way of doing it, (I know yours is from Kubuntu)
what you are doing is letting the original script setup a color, and then resetting it again, Why? set it up from within the original script then it works as it should, without an extra action,
It is doing things like this that make booting from a Mepis 12 DVD as slow as it is, plus it takes more resources because the system is going round in circles before it finds out just what it should be doing.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:15 pm**

uncle mark wrote: I hate it when that happens.

I love it when a bootable USB is working properly, but for me anyway it's easier most of the time to burn a disk.

Uncle mark, this is the first time a key has gone bad on me. It is much easier and quicker as I see it to use a USB key (assuming I have one available) than to burn a disk. I only do that when I can't use a USB key for some reason.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:24 pm**

Danum wrote:
richb wrote:What was in mine below. I only added the last line.
Which is a typical Mepis 12 way of doing it, (I know yours is from Kubuntu)
what you are doing is letting the original script setup a color, and then resetting it again, Why? set it up from within the original script then it works as it should, without an extra action,
It is doing things like this that make booting from a Mepis 12 DVD as slow as it is, plus it takes more resources because the system is going round in circles before it finds out just what it should be doing.

Why? Because I was too dumb to do any different.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:52 pm**

BurtHulland wrote:
uncle mark wrote: I hate it when that happens.

I love it when a bootable USB is working properly, but for me anyway it's easier most of the time to burn a disk.
Uncle mark, this is the first time a key has gone bad on me. It is much easier and quicker as I see it to use a USB key (assuming I have one available) than to burn a disk. I only do that when I can't use a USB key for some reason.

Burt, my wife teaches photography and burns through USB keys like nobody's business...the kid's all use them to take their photos home and they get heavy use.

Posted: **Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:01 pm**

Just a finding with my 64 bi install. I noticed that when I try to go from Windows 8 to Mepis on a reboot, Mepis get to the login screen and lets me place my password in, I press enter and I get the splash screen, but then the computer hangs, doesn't get to the desktop. If do a hard shutdown from there and then restart the laptop, it comes right to the desktop. I've tried this a half a dozen times with the same results each time.

It may be something simple or nothing at all.

Posted: **Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:40 pm**

pcallahan80 wrote:Burt, my wife teaches photography and burns through USB keys like nobody's business...the kid's all use them to take their photos home and they get heavy use.

That's the difference - I only use them (with one exception) for ISO files to install vaious distributions. So they don't get erased very often; that is what kills flash ROM's.

The exceptioin is a 64-gig chip I use to reinstall the data files in the directories I use in place of a saved 'home'; with that the data files can be used with ANY linux distro. This allows me to make installations for test or production use without losing any data. I rewrite the changed files on it every month or so. (Normally these files are kept up to data via the clouds.)

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:35 pm**

richb wrote:What was in mine below. I only added the last line.

Code:
# ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
# see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files (in the package bash-doc)
# for examples

# If not running interactively, don't do anything
case $- in
*i*) ;;
*) return;;
esac

# don't put duplicate lines or lines starting with space in the history.
# See bash(1) for more options
HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth

# append to the history file, don't overwrite it
shopt -s histappend

# for setting history length see HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE in bash(1)
HISTSIZE=1000
HISTFILESIZE=2000

# check the window size after each command and, if necessary,
# update the values of LINES and COLUMNS.
shopt -s checkwinsize

# If set, the pattern "**" used in a pathname expansion context will
# match all files and zero or more directories and subdirectories.
#shopt -s globstar

# make less more friendly for non-text input files, see lesspipe(1)
[ -x /usr/bin/lesspipe ] && eval "$(SHELL=/bin/sh lesspipe)"

# set variable identifying the chroot you work in (used in the prompt below)
if [ -z "${debian_chroot:-}" ] && [ -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then
debian_chroot=$(cat /etc/debian_chroot)
fi

# set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
case "$TERM" in
xterm-color) color_prompt=yes;;
esac

# uncomment for a colored prompt, if the terminal has the capability; turned
# off by default to not distract the user: the focus in a terminal window
# should be on the output of commands, not on the prompt
#force_color_prompt=yes

if [ -n "$force_color_prompt" ]; then
if [ -x /usr/bin/tput ] && tput setaf 1 >&/dev/null; then
# We have color support; assume it's compliant with Ecma-48
# (ISO/IEC-6429). (Lack of such support is extremely rare, and such
# a case would tend to support setf rather than setaf.)
color_prompt=yes
else
color_prompt=
fi
fi

if [ "$color_prompt" = yes ]; then
PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '
else
PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
fi
unset color_prompt force_color_prompt

# If this is an xterm set the title to user@host:dir
case "$TERM" in
xterm*|rxvt*)
PS1="\[\e]0;${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h: \w\a\]$PS1"
;;
*)
;;
esac

# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
if [ -x /usr/bin/dircolors ]; then
test -r ~/.dircolors && eval "$(dircolors -b ~/.dircolors)" || eval "$(dircolors -b)"
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
#alias dir='dir --color=auto'
#alias vdir='vdir --color=auto'

alias grep='grep --color=auto'
alias fgrep='fgrep --color=auto'
alias egrep='egrep --color=auto'
fi

# some more ls aliases
alias ll='ls -alF'
alias la='ls -A'
alias l='ls -CF'

# Add an "alert" alias for long running commands. Use like so:
# sleep 10; alert
alias alert='notify-send --urgency=low -i "$([ $? = 0 ] && echo terminal || echo error)" "$(history|tail -n1|sed -e '\''s/^\s*[0-9]\+\s*//;s/[;&|]\s*alert$//'\'')"'

# Alias definitions.
# You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
# See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package.

if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then
. ~/.bash_aliases
fi

# enable programmable completion features (you don't need to enable
# this, if it's already enabled in /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile
# sources /etc/bash.bashrc).
if ! shopt -oq posix; then
if [ -f /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion ]; then
. /usr/share/bash-completion/bash_completion
elif [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
. /etc/bash_completion
fi
fi
export PS1="\e[1;32m\u[\w]\\$ \e[m "
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

In every distro that uses the BASH terminal that so far that I have checked, the .bashrc user file is the same, line for line. So all one has
to do is remove the # and save the file. Then there will be green for user and red for root.

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:38 pm**

having occasional system freeze up while watching newscasts on the net... audio continues but video freezes and system becomes unresponsive to all input from keyboard or mouse...requires a hard kill and reboot when it happens. Any ideas appreciated. Using desktop machine in sig is a Dell Optiplex 740 slimline.

Posted: **Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:12 pm**

Joany has said I should post this problem under M12 - originally it was
thread 322381 under 64bit Regulars.
I have M11.9.70_64 installed - for a quite a while - since it was first
released. My problem is is that apps running under Wine will not print.
Originally the app would "hang" and had to be terminated. After changing
the printer settings to "share published printers" and "allow printing
from the Internet" the app no longer "hangs" but still does print.
Nothing every appears in the queue. The Printer is an HP2050 using
hpsups3.12.6, the kernel is 3.5-1-mepis64. Ia32libs and Lib32bss-mdns
are installed. Wine is 1.4.1
I only use two apps unders Wine: neither will print, both are old...
Word97 and PDG7. I only use Word to confirm that saving a doc in
Word format is acceptable to my publisher. PDG7 is label printing app.
It's not a mjor problem, but M12 is long time coming, and maybe no
one else has noticed this problem.

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:15 am**

Sorry if this has been brought up already, but has anyone mentioned this?

http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libwine-print

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:25 am**

Had my first issue, though it was probably KDE and not Mepis. Using Mepis to stream video through my 42" TV. I had all the power management turned off, and it worked fine, but after I recently ran updates it started shutting off the screen after 10 minutes. I looked this up an its a very old KDE issue, which makes me wonder if someone didn't add it back in where it had been fixed. I fixed it by turning on Dim and Power Saver under power managment and setting for 360 min.
I think I'm going to do as suggested by someone on the list and set all my Wheezy installs only to update security. I can't stand updates breaking or otherwise creating issues in systems that worked perfectly. Anyway, everything else has been flawless for me in Wheezy across 4 installations, 3 KDE and 1 Gnome Wheezy.

Posted: **Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:09 pm**

DBeckett wrote:
Sorry if this has been brought up already, but has anyone mentioned this?

http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libwine-print

That fixed the problem. Strange though that I never had to load this
library before. Thanks.

- - - Spoke too soon! After a few minutes using a Wine app the system
now "hangs" - dead! I have to reboot.

"glabels" comes close to what I've been using under Wine, but it doesn't
have the capabilties of even a ancient Windoze app (PDG)

- - - Spoke even much too soon! The Wine app will actually crash the
system and return to the login screen - which fails! Reboot!

Sigh!

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:17 am**

For labels I now just use LO, pulling data from a LO db I keep updated.

M12 is a long time coming, but I am now set up with. 11.9.92 as my production system, so no waiting for me.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:54 am**

Jerry3904 wrote: M12 is a long time coming, but I am now set up with. 11.9.92 as my production system, so no waiting for me.

Is the beta now supported with the necessary repositories and updates?

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:31 am**

joany wrote:
Jerry3904 wrote: M12 is a long time coming, but I am now set up with. 11.9.92 as my production system, so no waiting for me.
Is the beta now supported with the necessary repositories and updates?

Warren's M12 repo, the M12 CRs, and the Debian Wheezy repos have all been up and running for some time now. See: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php? ... t_MEPIS_12

As far as updates are concerned, what updates do you consider to be "necessary" ? [just about every user will have a different answer for that]

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2013 12:49 pm**

Had another crash today but different than the previous and only the browser crashed not a full system lockup like before. This time I was logged in to ebay with 2 tabs open... 1st tab was "my ebay" 2nd tab was viewing search results... at one point when clicking to view an item the browser crashed me back to my desktop. ... This is starting to look like an issue with iceweasel but I want to be sure it's not drivers or kernel related or other unknown. Iceweasel is 19.0.2

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:29 pm**

I'd suggest upgrading IceWeasel no matter what.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:42 pm**

JBoman wrote:Had another crash today but different than the previous and only the browser crashed not a full system lockup like before. This time I was logged in to ebay with 2 tabs open... 1st tab was "my ebay" 2nd tab was viewing search results... at one point when clicking to view an item the browser crashed me back to my desktop. ... This is starting to look like an issue with iceweasel but I want to be sure it's not drivers or kernel related or other unknown. Iceweasel is 19.0.2

lucky9 wrote:I'd suggest upgrading IceWeasel no matter what.

You might also update the flash plugin because M11.9.92 comes with the 11.2.202.275 version, the current version is 11.2.202.310.

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su -c 'update-flashplugin-nonfree --install --verbose'

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:42 pm**

beckwith wrote: That fixed the problem. Strange though that I never had to load this
library before. Thanks.

- - - Spoke too soon! After a few minutes using a Wine app the system
now "hangs" - dead! I have to reboot.

"glabels" comes close to what I've been using under Wine, but it doesn't
have the capabilties of even a ancient Windoze app (PDG)

- - - Spoke even much too soon! The Wine app will actually crash the
system and return to the login screen - which fails! Reboot!

Sigh!

I saw your other thread (in the 64-bit section) about the Wine printing problem. Several years ago I installed the 64-bit version of SM 8.0 (upgrading from SM 6.5) and immediately ran into several problems with Wine I couldn't resolve. I quickly ditched the 64-bit version of MEPIS and installed 32-bit as my production OS. If Wine is one of your mission-critical applications, you might want to consider using 32-bit instead. I know there many proponents of 64-bit in these forums, but I've always found 32-bit to be rock solid in every aspect. The main downside is that it's slower when running heavy number-crunching applications, such as DVD authoring. But for day-to-day use, its speed is certainly adequate, and I think you'll find it has fewer software issues overall.

Posted: **Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:38 pm**

upgraded to the .310 flash plugin and upgraded to the cr Firefox 23.0 Will see if that solves the problems. Thanks again

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:08 pm**

JBoman wrote:Had another crash today but different than the previous and only the browser crashed not a full system lockup like before. This time I was logged in to ebay with 2 tabs open... 1st tab was "my ebay" 2nd tab was viewing search results... at one point when clicking to view an item the browser crashed me back to my desktop. ... This is starting to look like an issue with iceweasel but I want to be sure it's not drivers or kernel related or other unknown. Iceweasel is 19.0.2

Do you by chance have an nVidia card? I have that happen constantly on my openSUSE machine with an nVidia card, but no issues at all on my Mepis 12 machine with a Radeon card...

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:42 pm**

lucky9 wrote:I'd suggest upgrading IceWeasel no matter what.

Would be nice to have it as the rolling version, if those are the words, to be able to have the newest version available much like the beta set up. If one doesn't want to upgrade, don't. But I've been running the on update channel with no problems so far. Some are on version 25.

Just my thoughts.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:51 pm**

The version that Firefox has on their site can be set to auto-update, or inform, or not. Your choice. Look for kmathern's Firefox script. I put stuff like that on a USB FlashDrive/MemoryKey for portability.

Posted: **Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:19 pm**

lucky9 wrote:The version that Firefox has on their site can be set to auto-update, or inform, or not. Your choice. Look for kmathern's Firefox script. I put stuff like that on a USB FlashDrive/MemoryKey for portability.

I'm doing this already. Would like to see Mepis 12 ship with it.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:50 am**

It looks like Warren has done some work recently on M12:

ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/dists/

- - - - &

ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/dists/mepis-12.0/main/
(note that they're timestamped with today's date)

It's kind of hard to tell what's been changed, but it does look like the LibreOffice 1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1 packages have been removed from the M12 repo. I don't know if that's a permanent change, or if he did that in preparation for uploading a newer version of LibreOffice. The wheezy-backports repo has the 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3 version of LibreOffice, so I don't I really see a reason to build a M12 version.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:21 pm**

mepis-install is at .94 and mepis-system is at .96 also. So there is work going on. Plus I note that grub-efi is there.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:23 pm**

lucky9 wrote:mepis-install is at .94 and mepis-system is at .96 also. So there is work going on. Plus I note that grub-efi is there.

Interesting. I wonder if the old goat has been working on UEFI compatibility all this time...

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:26 pm**

uncle mark wrote:
lucky9 wrote:mepis-install is at .94 and mepis-system is at .96 also. So there is work going on. Plus I note that grub-efi is there.
Interesting. I wonder if the old goat has been working on UEFI compatibility all this time...

Likely. Getting the system to boot simply and easily has been a priority for Warren.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:28 pm**

lucky9 wrote:mepis-install is at .94 and mepis-system is at .96 also. So there is work going on. Plus I note that grub-efi is there.

Those aren't new:
ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/pool/main/m/mepis-install/ (mepis-install_11.9.94 = 07/26/2013)
ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/pool/main/m/mepis-system/(mepis-system_11.9.96 = 05/05/2013)
ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/pool/main/g/grub2/ (grub-efi_2.00-7 = 12/22/2012)

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:46 pm**

Just discovered Kinfocenter is showing 16 hard drives that are not present in addition to the 1 that is present. Also having system lockups when viewing video... requires a hard kill & reboot to unlock.

Posted: **Fri Sep 27, 2013 11:46 pm**

The multiple ghost drives are a known problem with recent kernels; I still see it occurring with a homebuilt 3.11 version.

I noticed that the new mepis-config enables wheezy-backports by default, which means the new libreoffice there is now "kosher". I suppose that also means it's OK for packages in the community repo to build upon those updated versions, too, rather then port them over to the CR (like I just did for gettext yesterday [/grumble].

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:22 am**

Amazing, not many updates recently, and today 100 updates... Restarted system and everything appears good on restart. Though this was significant enough to post...

JR

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:40 am**

namida12 wrote:Amazing, not many updates recently, and today 100 updates... Restarted system and everything appears good on restart. Though this was significant enough to post...

JR

The large number of updates might be coming from the http://security.debian.org/ repo. I think they're planning on doing an update from Debian 7.1 -> 7.2 in the next week or two. The updates usually appear in the security repo or the wheezy-updates repo (what used to be 'volatile') before a point update.

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:42 am**

Here is what got upgraded/installed for me this morning:

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Commit Log for Sat Sep 28 11:36:52 2013


Upgraded the following packages:
amd64-microcode (1.20120910-2) to 2.20120910-1~bpo70+1
desktop-file-utils (0.20-0.1) to 0.21-1~bpo70+1
devscripts (2.12.6) to 2.13.2~bpo70+1
file (5.11-2) to 1:5.14-2~bpo70+1
firmware-atheros (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-brcm80211 (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-intelwimax (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-ipw2x00 (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-iwlwifi (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-libertas (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-linux-nonfree (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-ralink (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-realtek (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
fonts-opensymbol (2:102.2+LibO4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 2:102.3+LibO4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
gettext (0.18.1.1-9) to 0.18.3-1~bpo7+1
gettext-base (0.18.1.1-9) to 0.18.3-1~bpo7+1
git (1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1) to 1:1.8.4~rc3-1~bpo70+1
git-man (1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1) to 1:1.8.4~rc3-1~bpo70+1
intel-microcode (1.20130222.1) to 2.20130808.1~bpo70+1
irqbalance (1.0.3-3) to 1.0.6-2~bpo70+1
libarmadillo3 (1:3.2.3+dfsg-1) to 1:3.900.2+dfsg-1~bpo70+2
libasprintf0c2 (0.18.1.1-9) to 0.18.3-1~bpo7+1
libgeoip1 (1.4.8+dfsg-3) to 1.5.0-3~bpo70+1
libgettextpo0 (0.18.1.1-9) to 0.18.3-1~bpo7+1
libgpgme11 (1.2.0-1.4) to 1.4.3-0.1~bpo70+1
libgps20 (3.6-4+deb7u1) to 3.9-3~bpo70+1
libmagic1 (5.11-2) to 1:5.14-2~bpo70+1
libsmbclient (2:3.6.6-6) to 2:3.6.18-1~bpo70+1
libwbclient0 (2:3.6.6-6) to 2:3.6.18-1~bpo70+1
libxapian22 (1.2.12-2) to 1.2.15-2~bpo70+1
lintian (2.5.10.4) to 2.5.19~bpo70+1
module-assistant (0.11.4) to 0.11.6~bpo70+1
openssh-client (1:6.0p1-4) to 1:6.2p2-6~bpo70+1
python-debian (0.1.21) to 0.1.21+nmu2~bpo70+1
python-twisted-bin (12.0.0-1) to 13.0.0-1~bpo70+1
python-twisted-core (12.0.0-1) to 13.0.0-1~bpo70+1
samba-common (2:3.6.6-6) to 2:3.6.18-1~bpo70+1
smbclient (2:3.6.6-6) to 2:3.6.18-1~bpo70+1

Installed the following packages:
gnupg-agent (2.0.19-2)
gnupg2 (2.0.19-2)
iucode-tool (1.0-1~bpo70+1)
libassuan0 (2.0.3-1)
libfile-basedir-perl (0.03-1)
libksba8 (1.2.0-2)
libtevent0 (0.9.16-1)
libtext-levenshtein-perl (0.06~01-1)
pinentry-gtk2 (0.8.1-1)
python-six (1.1.0-2)
python3 (3.2.3-6)
python3-minimal (3.2.3-6)
python3.2 (3.2.3-7)
python3.2-minimal (3.2.3-7)
t1utils (1.37-1)

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:46 am**

Well maybe they're from the backports repo instead of the security repo, the packages with the "~bpo70" suffix are backports.

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:51 am**

My list of updates

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Commit Log for Sat Sep 28 08:10:55 2013


Upgraded the following packages:
mepis-config (11.9.94) to 11.9.96

Commit Log for Sat Sep 28 08:12:19 2013


Upgraded the following packages:
amd64-microcode (1.20120910-2) to 2.20120910-1~bpo70+1
bind9-host (1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2) to 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1
curl (7.26.0-1+wheezy2) to 7.26.0-1+wheezy3
davfs2 (1.4.6-1.1) to 1.4.6-1.1+deb7u1
dbus (1.6.8-1) to 1.6.8-1+deb7u1
dbus-x11 (1.6.8-1) to 1.6.8-1+deb7u1
devscripts (2.12.6) to 2.13.2~bpo70+1
dnsutils (1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2) to 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1
file (5.11-2) to 1:5.14-2~bpo70+1
firmware-atheros (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-brcm80211 (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-intelwimax (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-ipw2x00 (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-iwlwifi (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-libertas (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-linux-nonfree (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-ralink (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
firmware-realtek (0.36+wheezy.1) to 0.39~bpo70+1
fonts-opensymbol (2:102.2+LibO4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 2:102.3+LibO4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
gettext (0.18.1.1-9) to 0.18.3-1~bpo7+1
gettext-base (0.18.1.1-9) to 0.18.3-1~bpo7+1
gnupg (1.4.12-7) to 1.4.12-7+deb7u1
gpgv (1.4.12-7) to 1.4.12-7+deb7u1
icedtea-6-plugin (1.3.2-1) to 1.4-3~deb7u1
icedtea-netx (1.3.2-1) to 1.4-3~deb7u1
icedtea-netx-common (1.3.2-1) to 1.4-3~deb7u1
icedtea-plugin (1.3.2-1) to 1.4-3~deb7u1
imagemagick (8:6.7.7.10-5) to 8:6.7.7.10-5+deb7u2
imagemagick-common (8:6.7.7.10-5) to 8:6.7.7.10-5+deb7u2
intel-microcode (1.20130222.1) to 2.20130808.1~bpo70+1
irqbalance (1.0.3-3) to 1.0.6-2~bpo70+1
libasprintf0c2 (0.18.1.1-9) to 0.18.3-1~bpo7+1
libbind9-80 (1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2) to 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1
libcurl3 (7.26.0-1+wheezy2) to 7.26.0-1+wheezy3
libcurl3-gnutls (7.26.0-1+wheezy2) to 7.26.0-1+wheezy3
libdbus-1-3 (1.6.8-1) to 1.6.8-1+deb7u1
libdns88 (1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2) to 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1
libgcrypt11 (1.5.0-5) to 1.5.0-5+deb7u1
libgeoip1 (1.4.8+dfsg-3) to 1.5.0-3~bpo70+1
libgettextpo0 (0.18.1.1-9) to 0.18.3-1~bpo7+1
libgl1-mesa-dri (8.0.5-4+deb7u1) to 8.0.5-4+deb7u2
libgl1-mesa-glx (8.0.5-4+deb7u1) to 8.0.5-4+deb7u2
libglapi-mesa (8.0.5-4+deb7u1) to 8.0.5-4+deb7u2
libglu1-mesa (8.0.5-4+deb7u1) to 8.0.5-4+deb7u2
libgpgme11 (1.2.0-1.4) to 1.4.3-0.1~bpo70+1
libgps20 (3.6-4+deb7u1) to 3.9-3~bpo70+1
libgssapi-krb5-2 (1.10.1+dfsg-5) to 1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u1
libisc84 (1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2) to 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1
libisccc80 (1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2) to 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1
libisccfg82 (1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2) to 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1
libk5crypto3 (1.10.1+dfsg-5) to 1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u1
libkrb5-3 (1.10.1+dfsg-5) to 1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u1
libkrb5support0 (1.10.1+dfsg-5) to 1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u1
liblwres80 (1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2) to 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1
libmagic1 (5.11-2) to 1:5.14-2~bpo70+1
libmagickcore5 (8:6.7.7.10-5) to 8:6.7.7.10-5+deb7u2
libmagickwand5 (8:6.7.7.10-5) to 8:6.7.7.10-5+deb7u2
libmodplug1 (1:0.8.8.4-3) to 1:0.8.8.4-3+deb7u1+git20130828
libreoffice-base-core (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-calc (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-common (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-core (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-draw (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-help-en-us (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-impress (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-kde (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-style-oxygen (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libreoffice-writer (1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 1:4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
libsmbclient (2:3.6.6-6) to 2:3.6.18-1~bpo70+1
libwbclient0 (2:3.6.6-6) to 2:3.6.18-1~bpo70+1
libxapian22 (1.2.12-2) to 1.2.15-2~bpo70+1
lintian (2.5.10.4) to 2.5.19~bpo70+1
module-assistant (0.11.4) to 0.11.6~bpo70+1
openjdk-6-jre (6b27-1.12.5-1) to 6b27-1.12.6-1~deb7u1
openjdk-6-jre-headless (6b27-1.12.5-1) to 6b27-1.12.6-1~deb7u1
openjdk-6-jre-lib (6b27-1.12.5-1) to 6b27-1.12.6-1~deb7u1
openssh-client (1:6.0p1-4) to 1:6.2p2-6~bpo70+1
python-debian (0.1.21) to 0.1.21+nmu2~bpo70+1
samba-common (2:3.6.6-6) to 2:3.6.18-1~bpo70+1
smbclient (2:3.6.6-6) to 2:3.6.18-1~bpo70+1
tzdata (2013c-0wheezy1) to 2013d-0wheezy1
tzdata-java (2013c-0wheezy1) to 2013d-0wheezy1
uno-libs3 (4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 4.1.0-5~bpo70+3
ure (4.0.3-2~bpo70+1) to 4.1.0-5~bpo70+3

Installed the following packages:
gnupg-agent (2.0.19-2)
gnupg2 (2.0.19-2)
iucode-tool (1.0-1~bpo70+1)
libassuan0 (2.0.3-1)
libfile-basedir-perl (0.03-1)
libksba8 (1.2.0-2)
libtevent0 (0.9.16-1)
libtext-levenshtein-perl (0.06~01-1)
pinentry-gtk2 (0.8.1-1)
python-six (1.1.0-2)
python3 (3.2.3-6)
python3-minimal (3.2.3-6)
python3.2 (3.2.3-7)
python3.2-minimal (3.2.3-7)
t1utils (1.37-1)

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:01 pm**

@namida, the updates without "~bpo70" suffixes look like they're security updates, the first dozen or so that I looked at anyway.

Posted: **Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:09 pm**

The latest mepis-config added and enabled wheezy-backports by default. If this was not a mistake, (it doesn't look like it)* it's going to make an updated M12= Wheezy + MEPIS + wheezy-backports. It should also cut down on duplication of effort, since why should Warren rebuild Libreoffice, when it's already in backports? The same thing goes for many packages in the CR, too.

* /etc/apt/preferences.d/90mepis now contains:

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Package: *
Pin: release v=12.0,o=MEPIS,a=mepis,n=mepis-12.0,l=MEPIS
Pin-Priority: 902

Package: *
Pin: release o=Mepis community repository, n=mepis11cr
Pin-Priority: 901

Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,l=Debian-Security
Pin-Priority: 801

Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,n=wheezy*,l=Debian
Pin-Priority: 800

Package: *
Pin: release a=wheezy-backports
Pin-Priority: 800

Package: *
Pin: release o=Ubuntu
Pin-Priority: 400

Hmm--the CR version is still wrong, but doesn't seem to make much difference to Synaptic if set to prefer "mepis". I don't know what the Ubuntu entry is doing in there at all. Generally, you're on your own when installing those, since the results are unpredictable.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:07 pm**

New update downloaded and it fails in M12 11.9.92 - I can no longer open Google Chrome web browser. Might anyone have a fix or suggestions?

Commit Log for Wed Oct 2 12:56:12 2013

Upgraded the following packages:
google-chrome-stable (29.0.1547.76-r223446) to 30.0.1599.66-1

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:12 pm**

Hmmm. I just checked, and I have no update. Do you have something other than the M12 repositories listed in the Wiki?

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:21 pm**

Jerry3904 wrote:Hmmm. I just checked, and I have no update. Do you have something other than the M12 repositories listed in the Wiki?

Namida's update to Chrome 30 wasn't from Warren's M12 repo or the Debian Wheezy repos, it came from the dl.google.com repo

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deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main

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kent@mepis1:~$ apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable 
google-chrome-stable:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 30.0.1599.66-1
  Version table:
     30.0.1599.66-1 0
        500 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main i386 Packages
kent@mepis1:~$

@Namida, try starting Chrome in a terminal and post any error messages that appear.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:04 pm**

Green451@mepis1:~$ /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome %U
[3976:4004:1002/140204:FATAL:nss_util.cc(396)] NSS_VersionCheck("3.14.3") failed. NSS >= 3.14.3 is required. Please upgrade to the latest NSS, and if you still get this error, contact your distribution maintainer.
Aborted

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Here is link I found searching: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chrom ... 486f87b42b

Somebody please check and correct me if i am wrong: Apparently there are some security updates in the newer version: 3.14.3 contains a number of important security fixes, and support for older systems is no longer desirable.

More info just found: http://www.esecurityplanet.com/browser- ... flaws.html

Related? I do not know for certain...

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:23 pm**

namida12 wrote:Green451@mepis1:~$ /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome %U
[3976:4004:1002/140204:FATAL:nss_util.cc(396)] NSS_VersionCheck("3.14.3") failed. NSS >= 3.14.3 is required. Please upgrade to the latest NSS, and if you still get this error, contact your distribution maintainer.
Aborted

* * *
Here is link I found searching: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chrom ... 486f87b42b

Somebody please check and correct me if i am wrong: Apparently there are some security updates in the newer version: 3.14.3 contains a number of important security fixes, and support for older systems is no longer desirable.

The version of libnss3 in the Wheezy repos is currently the 3.14.3-1 version: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libnss3, actually "2:3.14.3-1" -- but I don't think it checks the "2:" part. The google-chrome-stable package wouldn't have been installable/upgradeable if that version wasn't in the repos.

I'm not sure why it's complaining about the libnss3 version, it looks correct to me.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:33 pm**

kmathern wrote:
namida12 wrote:Green451@mepis1:~$ /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome %U
[3976:4004:1002/140204:FATAL:nss_util.cc(396)] NSS_VersionCheck("3.14.3") failed. NSS >= 3.14.3 is required. Please upgrade to the latest NSS, and if you still get this error, contact your distribution maintainer.
Aborted

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The version of libnss3 in the Wheezy repos is currently the 3.14.3-1 version: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libnss3, actually "2:3.14.3-1" -- but I don't think it checks the "2:" part. The google-chrome-stable package wouldn't have been installable/upgradeable if that version wasn't in the repos.

I'm not sure why it's complaining about the libnss3 version, it looks correct to me.

Technically NSS 3.14.3 depends on NSPR 4.9.5, but Debian stable still ships 4.9.2 on stable, so this is the lower bound. I looked for libnspr in synaptic, libnspr4 2:4.9.2-1 <---could this be the reason?

How would I use apt-get to try the upgrade NSPR 4.9.5

JR

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:38 pm**

From your first link http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chrom ... 486f87b42b

> Technically NSS 3.14.3 depends on NSPR 4.9.5, but Debian stable still
> ships 4.9.2 on stable, so this is the lower bound.

I wonder if maybe the Wheezy libnspr4 version is the problem? It's at version 4.9.2-1 {actually 2:4.9.2-1}.

Maybe Tim or Stevo could backport the sid/jessie version for the CR repo, it's currently at 4.10-1 {actually 2:4.10-1}

edit: oops you already posted the same

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:49 pm**

namida12 wrote:How would I use apt-get to try the upgrade NSPR 4.9.5

The sid/jessie versions aren't installable on M12/Wheezy because of a "libc6 (>= 2.15)" dependency, M12/Wheezy uses libc6 2.13. It needs to be backported to be installable. Put in a request for it to be added to the M12 CRs.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 5:55 pm**

kmathern wrote:From your first link http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chrom ... 486f87b42b

> Technically NSS 3.14.3 depends on NSPR 4.9.5, but Debian stable still
> ships 4.9.2 on stable, so this is the lower bound.

I wonder if maybe the Wheezy libnspr4 version is the problem? It's at version 4.9.2-1 {actually 2:4.9.2-1}.

Maybe Tim or Stevo could backport the sid/jessie version for the CR repo, it's currently at 4.10-1 {actually 2:4.10-1}

I will wait for fix as I can not believe i am the only Google browser Mepis user that would like the latest security updates in their web browser.

That is part of testing a beta, I hope...

JR

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:10 pm**

namida12 wrote:I will wait for fix as Ii can not believe i am the only Google browser mepis user that would like the latest security updates in their web browser.

That is part of testing a beta, I hope...

JR

It's kind of disturbing that Google pushed thru an update that breaks Chrome on a stock Debian Stable/Wheezy install, when it's still a fairly new release.

Back in April their update to Chrome 26 broke it on stock Squeeze installs, but Squeeze was more than 2 years old at that time, it's only been 5 months since Wheezy's release.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:23 pm**

kmathern wrote:It's kind of disturbing that Google pushed thru an update that breaks Chrome on a stock Debian Stable/Wheezy install, when it's still a fairly new release.

Being treated like the bastard stepchild does get kinda old, doesn't it?

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:18 pm**

kmathern wrote:
namida12 wrote:I will wait for fix as Ii can not believe i am the only Google browser mepis user that would like the latest security updates in their web browser.

That is part of testing a beta, I hope...

JR
It's kind of disturbing that Google pushed thru an update that breaks Chrome on a stock Debian Stable/Wheezy install, when it's still a fairly new release.

Back in April their update to Chrome 26 broke it on stock Squeeze installs, but Squeeze was more than 2 years old at that time, it's only been 5 months since Wheezy's release.

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kmathern & uncle mark,

This is the first time I have ever had a broken Google Chrome web browser in Mepis. I was always loading Chromium instead of directly from Google several years ago, but I started downloading directly about three years ago when I began using AntiX more often.

But seeing Google change versions with a large number of security fixes, does not worry me, and seeing the notice of June Sat, 29 Jun 2013 Bug report, a 60 day old item that apparently did not mater to me until this Web browser update is not the end of the world.

I am certain this will be corrected in time, my concern is not having a Google web browser secure as designed...

I am certain this will be a system wide problem for Debian & Debian based distro users something not limited to the Mepis beta.

JR

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:27 pm**

Just got GC Version 30.0.1599.66 today and it runs fine in Kubuntu 13.04. As I recall I downloaded an earlier version and it just keeps upgrading when newer ones come out. None have been a problem. So it does not appear to be a widespread problem. I should not say that as I can only speak for my system.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:42 pm**

richb wrote:Just got GC Version 30.0.1599.66 today and it runs fine in Kubuntu 13.04. As I recall I downloaded an earlier version and it just keeps upgrading when newer ones come out. None have been a problem. So it does not appear to be a widespread problem. I should not say that as I can only speak for my system.

What version is your libnspr4

JR

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:46 pm**

namida12 wrote:
richb wrote:Just got GC Version 30.0.1599.66 today and it runs fine in Kubuntu 13.04. As I recall I downloaded an earlier version and it just keeps upgrading when newer ones come out. None have been a problem. So it does not appear to be a widespread problem. I should not say that as I can only speak for my system.
What version is your libnspr4

JR

nspr (2:4.9.5-1ubuntu1) http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/raring/nspr

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:46 pm**

It is 4.9.5. That explains why there is not a problem.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:15 pm**

I've just managed to get Chrome 30 installed and running in a M12 (M11.9.92) LiveUSB session. It seems to be working just fine with the stock nspr (version 4.9.2-1). {I'm making this post with Chrome 30}

M11.9.92 comes with Warren's version of the libnss3 and libnss3-1d packages installed, they are at version 2:3.14.2-1, the Wheezy version packages are at 2:3.14.3-1.

Apparently apt thinks that the 2:3.14.2-1 version fulfills the "libnss3 (>= 3.14.3)" dependency because it didn't install the Wheezy version when it installed Chrome 30. {it must consider '2:3.14.2-1' to be greater than '3.14.3'}

Btw, here's the Chrome 30 depends:

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Package: google-chrome-stable
Version: 30.0.1599.66-1
Architecture: i386
Maintainer: Chrome Linux Team <chromium-dev@chromium.org>
Installed-Size: 145775
Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: gconf-service, libasound2 (>= 1.0.23), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.11), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), libcups2 (>= 1.4.0), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.14), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.8.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.9), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgconf-2-4 (>= 2.31.1), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.18.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libnspr4 (>= 1.8.0.10), libnss3 (>= 3.14.3), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.22.0), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), libudev0 (>= 147) | libudev1 (>= 198), libx11-6 (>= 2:1.4.99.1), libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxrender1, libxss1, ca-certificates, libcurl3, lsb-base (>= 3.2), xdg-utils (>= 1.0.2), wget

I installed the Wheezy version libnss3 packages with apt-get with

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apt-get install libnss3 -t wheezy

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:57 pm**

Only difference I can see is 32 bit to my 64 bit...

I have dumped Google- will try to download again...
Commit Log for Wed Oct 2 18:55:42 2013
Completely removed the following packages:
google-chrome-stable

New download of 64 bit version -

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Selecting previously unselected package google-chrome-stable.
(Reading database ... (Reading database ... 5%(Reading database ... 10%(Reading database ... 15%(Reading database ... 20%(Reading database ... 25%(Reading database ... 30%(Reading database ... 35%(Reading database ... 40%(Reading database ... 45%(Reading database ... 50%(Reading database ... 55%(Reading database ... 60%(Reading database ... 65%(Reading database ... 70%(Reading database ... 75%(Reading database ... 80%(Reading database ... 85%(Reading database ... 90%(Reading database ... 95%(Reading database ... 100%(Reading database ... 105882 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking google-chrome-stable (from .../google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb) ...
Setting up google-chrome-stable (30.0.1599.66-1) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/google-chrome to provide /usr/bin/x-www-browser (x-www-browser) in auto mode
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/google-chrome to provide /usr/bin/gnome-www-browser (gnome-www-browser) in auto mode
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for menu ...

Would not bootup via new icon

Run in terminal for errors
Green451@mepis1:~$ /opt/google/chrome/google-chrome %U
[3464:3492:1002/190955:FATAL:nss_util.cc(396)] NSS_VersionCheck("3.14.3") failed. NSS >= 3.14.3 is required. Please upgrade to the latest NSS, and if you still get this error, contact your distribution maintainer.
Aborted
Green451@mepis1:~$

I am lost, what next it said dependency met on install...

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:25 pm**

Run the following and post the results

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apt-cache policy libnss3 libnss3-1d

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:58 pm**

I see there are some new kernels and headers in the repos.

Posted: **Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:15 pm**

smilliken wrote:I see there are some new kernels and headers in the repos.

The mepis-config update from last week enabled the wheezy-backports repo. The new kernels you're seeing are from it, Warren didn't build a new kernel.

Posted: **Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:01 am**

kmathern wrote:Run the following and post the results
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apt-cache policy libnss3 libnss3-1d

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Green451@mepis1:~$ apt-cache policy libnss3 libnss3-1d
libnss3:
  Installed: 2:3.14.2-1
  Candidate: 2:3.14.2-1
  Version table:
     2:3.14.3-1 0
        800 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2:3.14.2-1 0
        902 http://mepis.mirrorcatalogs.com/packages/mepis/ mepis-12.0/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
libnss3-1d:
  Installed: 2:3.14.2-1
  Candidate: 2:3.14.2-1
  Version table:
     2:3.14.3-1 0
        800 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2:3.14.2-1 0
        902 http://mepis.mirrorcatalogs.com/packages/mepis/ mepis-12.0/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Green451@mepis1:~$

Posted: **Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:04 am**

namida12 wrote:

kmathern wrote:Run the following and post the results
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apt-cache policy libnss3 libnss3-1d

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Green451@mepis1:~$ apt-cache policy libnss3 libnss3-1d
libnss3:
  Installed: 2:3.14.2-1
  Candidate: 2:3.14.2-1
  Version table:
     2:3.14.3-1 0
        800 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2:3.14.2-1 0
        902 http://mepis.mirrorcatalogs.com/packages/mepis/ mepis-12.0/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
libnss3-1d:
  Installed: 2:3.14.2-1
  Candidate: 2:3.14.2-1
  Version table:
     2:3.14.3-1 0
        800 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
 *** 2:3.14.2-1 0
        902 http://mepis.mirrorcatalogs.com/packages/mepis/ mepis-12.0/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Green451@mepis1:~$

Run the following (as root)

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apt-get install libnss3 libnss3-1d -t wheezy

Posted: **Thu Oct 03, 2013 12:32 am**

I can confirm both the problem, and that installing Wheezy's version of libnss3 will correct it.

So...I guess the older MEPIS version can be considered deprecated, and Warren should purge it from the repo?

Posted: **Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:09 am**

Stevo wrote:I can confirm both the problem, and that installing Wheezy's version of libnss3 will correct it.

So...I guess the older MEPIS version can be considered deprecated, and Warren should purge it from the repo?

That would help, but I think the Google folks should fix the dependency.

The way it is right now the '2:3.14.2-1' version is considered to be greater than or equal to '3.14.3' so apt goes ahead and installs Chrome 30.

The Ubuntu raring and saucy nss packages also use the "2:" prefix (I forgot what the correct term is for that part of versioning).

The earlier buntu versions don't use the prefix though so you would probably break Chrome for them if you changed the dependency to ">= 2:3.14.3".

Can you create a dependency where it would wildcard or filter out the "2:" part for the versions it checks for?

Posted: **Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:39 am**

Green451@mepis1:~$ su
Password:
root@mepis1:/home/Green451# apt-get install libnss3 libnss3-1d -t wheezy
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
libgettextpo0
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.
The following packages will be upgraded:
libnss3 libnss3-1d
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,083 kB of archives.
After this operation, 8,192 B of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main libnss3-1d amd64 2:3.14.3-1 [20.0 kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main libnss3 amd64 2:3.14.3-1 [1,063 kB]
Fetched 1,083 kB in 2s (508 kB/s)
(Reading database ... 105989 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace libnss3-1d:amd64 2:3.14.2-1 (using .../libnss3-1d_2%3a3.14.3-1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libnss3-1d:amd64 ...
Preparing to replace libnss3:amd64 2:3.14.2-1 (using .../libnss3_2%3a3.14.3-1_amd64.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libnss3:amd64 ...
Setting up libnss3:amd64 (2:3.14.3-1) ...
Setting up libnss3-1d:amd64 (2:3.14.3-1) ...
root@mepis1:/home/Green451#

**
Wiki or How to: The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
libgettextpo0
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it.

Now I have a working Google. Thanks Kmathern & Stevo for testing this fix. A humble smile is offered to both of you for setting this right...

JR

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:59 pm**

Just got a new update to Google Stable: Version 30.0.1599.101

I can confirm it is much faster, than the previous version i had troubles getting to run, before libnss3 was installed...

Again thanks Kmathern & Stevo for the knowledge & fix in the latest beta 11.2.92...

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:22 pm**

namida12 wrote:Just got a new update to Google Stable: Version 30.0.1599.101

I can confirm it is much faster, than the previous version i had troubles getting to run, before libnss3 was installed...

Again thanks Kmathern & Stevo for the knowledge & fix in the latest beta 11.2.92...

You're using the 64bit package which seems to have installed okay for you.

It does look like the 32bit package has some problems though according to this forums.debian.net thread: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 75#p515575, because they included some 64bit dependencies in the 32bit package.

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:56 pm**

. aww shucks, that was to easy

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Version 31.0.1650.16 beta

thanks >> you guys are awesome

64bit, actaully typing from iceweasel :) but chrome starts and runs well.

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:06 pm**

Hi All
I am in the process of fixing up a fairly recent PC that i aquired. it is almost 5 years old. i plan on using it to replace the older Dell that i am currently using. it was a custom built box with a MSI MS-7529 Motherboard with a Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller onboard. the kernel driver is i915. the problem is that i cannot get Mepis M12 11.9.92 to boot into a graphical screen. splashy does work, but i found that the boot process was extremely slow. id the i915 driver excluded from Mepis?
i know that usually on most linux distributions, there were usually no issues with Intel Graphics chipsets.

i do not have any trouble with other distributions booting into a full desktop on this PC, only Mepis M12 is giving me trouble. i have tried KWheezy, Debian 7.1 KDE edition, Kubuntu 12-04, & Linux Mint 15. they all work.

is there something i need to do to get it to work? after splashy disappears, all there is is just a black screen with a little flashing curser in the top left corner.

Posted: **Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:10 pm**

Update to Google-Chrome Stable 30.0.1599.101 32bit fails,

Depends: lib32gcc1 (>=1:4.1.1) but it is not installable
Depends: lib32stdc++6 (>=4.6) but it is not installable
Depends: libc6-i386 (>=2.11) but it is not installable

kmathern wrote:
namida12 wrote:Just got a new update to Google Stable: Version 30.0.1599.101

I can confirm it is much faster, than the previous version i had troubles getting to run, before libnss3 was installed...

Again thanks Kmathern & Stevo for the knowledge & fix in the latest beta 11.2.92...
You're using the 64bit package which seems to have installed okay for you.

It does look like the 32bit package has some problems though according to this forums.debian.net thread: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? ... 75#p515575, because they included some 64bit dependencies in the 32bit package.

Patience is needed till Google-Chrome devs spit out another corrected update.
[taken from https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issu ... ?id=304017]
There is a re-package work around if you have to, are bored, run out of cold beer or life's just too long

Posted: **Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:16 pm**

robert1 wrote:Hi All
I am in the process of fixing up a fairly recent PC that i aquired. it is almost 5 years old. i plan on using it to replace the older Dell that i am currently using. it was a custom built box with a MSI MS-7529 Motherboard with a Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller onboard. the kernel driver is i915. the problem is that i cannot get Mepis M12 11.9.92 to boot into a graphical screen. splashy does work, but i found that the boot process was extremely slow. id the i915 driver excluded from Mepis?
i know that usually on most linux distributions, there were usually no issues with Intel Graphics chipsets.
after splashy disappears, all there is is just a black screen with a little flashing curser in the top left corner.

At the boot screen in GRUB type

xdrvr=intel confx

hit the enter key and report back any errors.

Posted: **Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:01 am**

Running the 64 bit and for what ever reason, I have intermittent sound. I watching a video on CBT Nuggets right now and everything is working fine and just finished listening to an mp3 with VLC, but it won't work with Juk. The next time I seem to boot up, there is absolutely no sound at all but the video works.

Just wondering if anyone else having anything similar, or is my sound card going. It is a Dell 1525 Inspiron laptop.

Posted: **Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:33 pm**

I just added this to mepis 12 repositories reloaded and it install google chrome using synaptic with no problems.I'm running 32 bit system.john deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main

Posted: **Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:37 pm**

Found this on google chrom site
Steps to reproduce the problem:
1. Add to /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
2. Try to install (or upgrade from 30.0.1599.66) google-chrome-beta
3. The dependecies cannot be met, hence disallowing to cleanly install (or upgrade) the package.

What is the expected behavior?
All dependencies should be met.

What went wrong?
The dependecies cannot be met due to unavailable libraries, which are specific to 64-bit repos:
lib32gcc1
lib32stdc++6
libc6-i386

Did this work before? Yes 30.0.1599.66

Chrome version: 31.0.1650.11 Channel: beta
OS Version: Ubunu 12.04
Flash Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

What is interesting, the DEB for 64-bit version is working correcly, and even the mentioned packages are not dependants.

Maybe the build script wrongly puts dependencies not in the right arch (32 vs. 64)?

Posted: **Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:47 pm**

golden45 wrote:Found this on google chrom site
Steps to reproduce the problem:
1. Add to /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
2. Try to install (or upgrade from 30.0.1599.66) google-chrome-beta
3. The dependecies cannot be met, hence disallowing to cleanly install (or upgrade) the package.

What is the expected behavior?
All dependencies should be met.

What went wrong?
The dependecies cannot be met due to unavailable libraries, which are specific to 64-bit repos:
lib32gcc1
lib32stdc++6
libc6-i386

Did this work before? Yes 30.0.1599.66

Chrome version: 31.0.1650.11 Channel: beta
OS Version: Ubunu 12.04
Flash Version: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

What is interesting, the DEB for 64-bit version is working correcly, and even the mentioned packages are not dependants.

Maybe the build script wrongly puts dependencies not in the right arch (32 vs. 64)?

They fixed the dependencies of the 32bit google-chrome-stable package yesterday (or two days ago). It's now at version 30.0.1599.114-1 and no longer has the 64bit depends for lib32gcc1, lib32stdc++6 & libc6-i386.

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apt-cache show google-chrome-stable 
Package: google-chrome-stable
Version: 30.0.1599.114-1
Architecture: i386
Maintainer: Chrome Linux Team <chromium-dev@chromium.org>
Installed-Size: 145811
Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.14.0)
Depends: gconf-service, libasound2 (>= 1.0.23), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.4), libc6 (>= 2.11), libcairo2 (>= 1.6.0), libcups2 (>= 1.4.0), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.2.14), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.8.0), libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.9), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgconf-2-4 (>= 2.31.1), libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.18.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libnspr4 (>= 1.8.0.10), libnss3 (>= 3.14.3), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.22.0), libstdc++6 (>= 4.6), libudev0 (>= 147) | libudev1 (>= 198), libx11-6 (>= 2:1.4.99.1), libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfixes3, libxrender1, libxss1, ca-certificates, libcurl3, lsb-base (>= 3.2), xdg-utils (>= 1.0.2), wget
Conflicts: google-chrome
Replaces: google-chrome
Provides: google-chrome, www-browser
Section: web
Priority: optional
Filename: pool/main/g/google-chrome-stable/google-chrome-stable_30.0.1599.114-1_i386.deb
Size: 42193880
SHA1: 140bf3da921a63463af141773a9383116e02ac91
MD5sum: 825385d4a671ea47d820eba0e314348c
Description: The web browser from Google
 Google Chrome is a browser that combines a minimal design with sophisticated technology to make the web faster, safer, and easier.
Description-md5: a2d34067fc33f1c87253c33b9fd975f0

Posted: **Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:07 pm**

Just checked chrome version it is 30.0.1599.114 and it works great,thanks for info .johnI have also tried the beta comming up and it also works great

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:38 am**

I'm wondering when the next beta is going to be released .I know warren is busy but I know how many of us is patiently waiting.john

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2013 10:54 am**

golden45 wrote:I'm wondering when the next beta is going to be released .I know warren is busy but I how know many of us is patiently waiting.john

The rest of us are wondering too.

Posted: **Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:15 am**

I will post on this today in a separate thread, thanks for the question.

Posted: **Thu Nov 21, 2013 3:24 pm**

I just noticed, that I now can not speed up the boot times any longer.

A while ago, I could press escape key to boot quicker, but now it seems my keyboard is loading later in the boot process.

Any one notice this, with the updates?

JR

Posted: **Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:27 am**

I have found a shortcoming in 11.9.92; I should have found it a long time ago, but I rarely use CD's or DVD's (USB keys work all the time). Many of them will not mount under .92, but worked fine under Mepis 11. Live CD/DVD's work properly, but the same disks will not mount as data disks; so the problem is in the beta, not in my BIOS. MSystem also works to write keys. And the same is true on all 4 of the machines I have, including the laptop (which of course has an entirely different BIOS than the desktops - the mainboards are not all from the same manufacturer, anyway).

Posted: **Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:48 am**

I have no problem mounting the M11.9.92-64 DVD. It opens in Dolphin and I can open and read the text files on it.

Phil

Posted: **Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:51 am**

Ah, problem solved - I had to create a mount-point (empty directory) named "/media/cdrom"! Now it mounts all CD's and DVD's I have tried.

Posted: **Wed Nov 27, 2013 10:00 pm**

I've been trying out Mepis 11.9.92, 64 bit on a Dell N5030 that is new to me. The only thing I've been scratching my head over is a problem with wired networking. The wired connection shuts down after a few minutes with rebooting being the only solution.I found https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54021 that should fix this issue. I thought I' bring it up so the patch could possibly be incorporated for all. I've been using Debian for a few years, since I downloaded Rex with a modem, so I've compiled a few kernels. I've been using Mepis on a couple of machines over the years and it's by far my favorite distro. Please keep it up.

Thanks,

Rob

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:39 am**

Running M12 11.9.92 plain vanilla, google-chrome-stable has stopped working. (Version: 31.0.1650.57-1)

Get the following when I execute from terminal:

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$ google-chrome-stable
/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss3.so: version `NSS_3.14.3' not found (required by /usr/bin/google-chrome-stable)

I have the standard M12 repositories for debian enabled:

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deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free

# deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free

They get me to libnss3 Version: 2:3.14.2-1...so that appears to be the problem.

What are my options to get to libnss 3.14.3? Anybody else seeing this?

Note: It's also strange that neither apt-get or aptitude show the problem as a missing dependency, no?

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:57 am**

I think the "2:" epoch number for Warren's libnss3 & libnss3-1d packages is causing the problem. It makes apt think that the "2:3.14.2-1" version fulfills the libnss3 (>= 3.14.3) dependency.

Try installing the Wheezy version of libnss3 & libnss3-1d (Wheezy is currently at version 2:3.14.5-1)

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apt-get install libnss3 libnss3-1d -t wheezy

Posted: **Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:02 am**

kmathern wrote:I think the "2:" epoch number for Warren's libnss3 & libnss3-1d packages is causing the problem. It make's apt think that the "2:3.14.2-1" version fulfills the libnss3 (>= 3.14.3) dependency.

Try installing the Wheezy version of libnss3 & libnss3-1d (Wheezy is currently at version 2:3.14.5-1)
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apt-get install libnss3 libnss3-1d -t wheezy

Kent, you are amazing. Nice catch!!

libnss3 now at Version: 2:3.14.5-1 AND google-chrome-stable working fine...

Many thanks,
-Paul C.

Posted: **Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:58 am**

kmathern wrote:I think the "2:" epoch number for Warren's libnss3 & libnss3-1d packages is causing the problem. It makes apt think that the "2:3.14.2-1" version fulfills the libnss3 (>= 3.14.3) dependency.

Try installing the Wheezy version of libnss3 & libnss3-1d (Wheezy is currently at version 2:3.14.5-1)
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apt-get install libnss3 libnss3-1d -t wheezy

New install and had to perform this to get google to work...
beta: Mepis 64 bit - Google-chrome Version 31.0.1650.63

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apt-get install libnss3 libnss3-1d -t wheezy

All is well now...

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:50 pm**

As an update to my previous post regarding wired networking, there has been a change in my machine.

Sometime late this week, I ran an update. I'm not sure which one since I'm maintaining 3 Linux machines with different distro's on them.

After the update, my wired networking works great, but my wi-fi has been disabled. There is a message regarding wireless being disable by hardware and the wireless option can't be checked under the networking interface widget. The USB wireless adapter is also recognized but hardware disabled.

I haven't been able to much digging yet, but if anyone has any thoughts, I'd appreciate it.

Uname -a returns this: Linux kadath 3.9-1-mepis64 #1 SMP MEPIS 3.9.8-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux.

Thanks,

Rob

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:44 pm**

Can you try the 3.10 kernel in wheezy-backports, or the 3.12 Liquorix kernel in the testing CR?

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:07 pm**

Doh. The F key, wireless switch had turned it off. Maybe I fat fingered something, because I've never used any of them on purpose. I don't have a clue, but it's back working now. Thanks for the help.

Merry Christmas,

Rob

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:06 pm**

I was going to suggest that, but I thought, "Nah! Couldn't be."-)

Posted: **Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:10 pm**

I've chased my tail the same way more than once.

I've also had several people bring me their computers for repair -- "won't connect to the Internet" -- for the same reason. I hate that. Can't charge 'em for pressing the F6 key while they're standing there watching.

Posted: **Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:13 pm**

I have the 32-bit M12 on a flash drive made using UNetbootin, and have been trying to get it to run on an older PC. I have been able to get it to load, and the splash screen looks normal. When it gets to the point where the desktop GUI is supposed to appear the monitor displays a blank screen. I've tried a lot of different cheatcodes making different xdrvr and xres selections and the like. The most that will appear on the screen is a blinking underline cursor in the upper left corner of the screen, and a small white block cursor when the mouse is moved. The PC has an NVIDIA 7300GT AGP video card that is feeding an Acer S231 widescreen flat panel monitor via VGA. This same setup runs MEPIS 11 OK. Any advice will be appreciated.

Posted: **Wed Dec 25, 2013 6:38 pm**

Have you tried the cheatcodes:

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nouveau.modeset=0 nomodeset

?
I need those on some nvidia cards to get M12 to boot to the GUI.

Posted: **Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:51 pm**

GregB wrote:I have the 32-bit M12 on a flash drive made using UNetbootin, and have been trying to get it to run on an older PC. I have been able to get it to load, and the splash screen looks normal. When it gets to the point where the desktop GUI is supposed to appear the monitor displays a blank screen. I've tried a lot of different cheatcodes making different xdrvr and xres selections and the like. The most that will appear on the screen is a blinking underline cursor in the upper left corner of the screen, and a small white block cursor when the mouse is moved. The PC has an NVIDIA 7300GT AGP video card that is feeding an Acer S231 widescreen flat panel monitor via VGA. This same setup runs MEPIS 11 OK. Any advice will be appreciated.

You obviously want to follow Tim's instructions first, but afterwards you may want/need to run sgfxi to get the graphics set up fully. Might need to run it twice.

Totally different problem and hardware, but for grins I recently did an install of Mint 13 on my old laptop with ATI graphics and could only get a screen after choosing Recovery Mode from grub. Didn't have to do anything once I got there -- just chose to boot normally -- but that was the only way to get a screen. When booting in normal mode all I got was a command prompt. Ran sgfxi from that prompt, and even though it threw up a lot of errors and said a lot of things couldn't be done or found or whatever, when it was all over and done with I had good graphics. That sgfxi is a really great tool.
.

Posted: **Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:28 pm**

Thanks for the replies. I tried using the nouveau.modeset=0 nomodeset cheatcodes by selecting the safe mode selection and editing the part after the fromhd to read only the two suggested cheatcodes. The monitor displays a square box saying Input Not Supported. After a little while the blank screen with the blinking cursor and the block mouse cursor is displayed. I can Alt-F1 to a text mode console to do a user login. Will sgfxi permanently alter the Live version on the flash drive? Once the Live version on the flash drive is working OK I can try a test install to the hard drive on the PC.

Posted: **Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:01 pm**

GregB wrote:Thanks for the replies. I tried using the nouveau.modeset=0 nomodeset cheatcodes by selecting the safe mode selection and editing the part after the fromhd to read only the two suggested cheatcodes. The monitor displays a square box saying Input Not Supported. After a little while the blank screen with the blinking cursor and the block mouse cursor is displayed. I can Alt-F1 to a text mode console to do a user login. Will sgfxi permanently alter the Live version on the flash drive? Once the Live version on the flash drive is working OK I can try a test install to the hard drive on the PC.

I wasn't thinking clearly that you were talking about running live, not already installed.

If the 'aufs' cheatcode still works in M12beta (???), then it makes sense to me that yes, you could run sgfxi from the live media. But no, it wouldn't permanently alter the ISO. The drivers pulled in by sgfxi would only be retained for that particular live session.

Couldn't hurt to try.
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Posted: **Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:24 am**

I'd run those cheatcodes from the normal boot choice. I'd also put them at the end. (all you need to do is start typing when the GRUB boot screen shows up)

Unless you do an actual installation to the FlashDrive nothing will be permanent. UNetBooten only makes a Live FlashDrive.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:05 pm**

I tried the aufs setting and the live version didn't want to boot. Replacing the widescreen monitor with an old CRT monitor didn't do any good. I'm not sure where I go from here. Thanks for all the suggestions.

Posted: **Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:12 pm**

Thinking about it, I'm not too sure that aufs is included with the Beta. Specifying nouveau should not be necessary either. Have you tried a 30 second delay cheatcode?

IE: rootdelay=30

See here: http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=Cheatcodes

You might try the above with the modeset cheatcode also.

Posted: **Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:43 pm**

So far no joy. Is there any combination of cheatcodes that can aid in doing a diagnostic as to why X11 is failing to establish a valid GUI screen? I tried doing startx from a text mode console. It produces a log file in /var/log. If this log file has diagnostic value, is there any way that this log file can be saved to a permanent file so that I can post a copy of it?

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