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MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:42 pm
by andyprough
[UPDATE] - YAY!!! The day is finally here that Norbert Preining's latest KDE/plasma 5.22.4 packages now work on the MX21 beta version without having to use the Debian Sid repos or jump through any other hoops. :number1:

Steps to do it:
1. With a fresh install of MX21 beta ISO, apt update and apt upgrade
2. Add Norbert Preining's gpg key and his KDE repos per the instructions below, and apt update
Add these repos from Norbert to a new "norbertpreining.list" text file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_11/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_11/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_11/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_11/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_11/ ./
3. Add Norbert's gpg key to your system as follows:

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cd /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
sudo wget https://www.preining.info/obs-npreining.asc
sudo gpg --import /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc
4. From the MX Package Installer, Popular Apps Tab, Desktop Environments section, install the "KDE5 Standard" desktop.
5. Reboot, select the Plasma desktop at the login screen, and log into your shiny new KDE Plasma 5.22.4 desktop!
:celebrate:

As before - the use of these repos is UNSUPPORTED, although if you have problems you can leave a note at the end of this thread and we will try to help you. It is also EXPERIMENTAL - back up all your valuable data and continue to back it up if you try this method.

Soon, I will post an MX 21 beta Plasma Desktop 5.22.4 respin.

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[NOTE - WITH THE RELEASE OF MX 21 beta ISO, THE INFORMATION BELOW IS NO LONGER NECESSARY. YOU CAN RUN KDE 5.22.4 WITH MX 21 beta WITHOUT USING ANY DEBIAN SID REPOS. IF YOU PREFER TO USE DEBIAN SID REPOS, THEN THE BELOW INFORMATION SHOULD STILL BE HELPFUL]

UPDATE: An MX-KDE 5.21 Sid Respin ISO has been posted here: https://mega.nz/folder/SBlQHZCL#Z2oH5THPkz95-JJsDq2gxA
Passwords are the same as the MX Live ISO: demo/demo, root/root
If networking does not work, try 'sudo NetworkManager'
This respin is experimental and for testing purposes only - do not install it on a disk where you have important data.

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This is a thread for discussing getting KDE version 5.19.3 5.19.5 5.20.4 5.20.5 5.21 5.22 and later running on MX using the KDE repositories from long-time Debian developer and project maintainer Norbert Preining.

We'll be putting steps here for getting it running on MX, and discuss the difficulties we run into.

This is completely experimental and UNSUPPORTED - DO NOT TRY THIS ON A PRODUCTION MACHINE. In fact, just don't try this - it will absolutely turn your system into a franken-MX because it mixes various repos that don't go together, and it will almost certainly ultimately break. However, if you feel adventurous and want to try it in a vm or on non-production hardware, then this is the place to discuss it.

The basic steps for right now appear to be as follows (this will take some ingenuity on the user's part - NOT for newbies, and you will get no support other than other KDE fans urging you on. And your synaptic skills need to be sharp - doing the synaptic steps from the command line would be begging for all kinds of trouble).
1. With a fresh install of MX, apt update and apt upgrade
2. Enable the Debian Sid repo and apt update, but DO NOT apt upgrade
3. Add Norbert Preining's gpg key and one of his repos per the instructions below, and apt update but DO NOT apt upgrade.
Norbert changed his "apps" repo to be "apps2104", so your repos should now be as follows:

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deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2104/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
add the repos from Norbert to a new "norbertpreining.list" text file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/, and add Norbert's gpg key to your system as follows:

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cd /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/
sudo wget https://www.preining.info/obs-npreining.asc
sudo gpg --import /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc
4. run

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apt install task-kde-desktop
Allow MX to pull packages it needs from Debian Sid to handle the dependencies for KDE 5.20.5, but don't upgrade the rest of the system to Sid
5. Immediately disable the Debian Sid repo and Norbert's repos
6. Update and upgrade MX like usual from Debian stable and MX repos. Don't enable Debian Sid or Norbert's repos again except to add specific KDE packages or when Norbert releases a new update. At that time, enable Sid and Norbert's repos and select the specific KDE packages you want to add or upgrade from within synaptic. Your synaptic searching skills need to be quite good. Disable Sid and Norbert's repos again as soon as you are done with the KDE packages
7. This creates a complex franken system that is trying to handle stuff from 4 different and often conflicting repos. It generally works because KDE packages almost always use KDE or qt dependencies. The rest of your system hopefully won't be affected too much. I've run a system like this for several months now with no real problems, and kept all my MX tools working. No guarantees though.
8. task-kde-desktop does not pull in a few of the packages you will need for a good running desktop. You'll need to add the systemsettings package and will possibly have to add a networking package or configure networking by hand, among other things like KDE themes. Once again, synaptic is your friend, search for "kde" or "plasma" packages and you'll find several additional things you want.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:49 pm
by kksmith
thanks for the headsup. good to know since the plasma on MXkde is quite old.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 1:05 am
by andyprough
Here's an initial screenshot.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:28 am
by SwampRabbit
kksmith wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:49 pm thanks for the headsup. good to know since the plasma on MXkde is quite old.
It’s “quite old” because it is the stable and supported version in Debian 10 which MX-19 is based on.

You can’t have your absolutely free cake and eat it too, then complain you don’t like it. Lol

As Andy has so greatly stated this is unstable, unsupported, not fully tested, and should be expected to break.

@Andy great job. Could use some formatting to make it clearer, but good job. Step 3 took a second read at least for me.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:55 am
by kksmith
lol.. i wasnt complaining , just making a comment. plus, i dont eat stale cake, even if free.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:09 am
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 2:28 am@Andy great job. Could use some formatting to make it clearer, but good job. Step 3 took a second read at least for me.
I'm going for a non-newbie friendly writing style on this one. I figure for the folks who can't understand it, it's much better they don't try it.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:54 am
by SwampRabbit
kksmith wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 6:55 am ... i wasnt complaining , just making a comment...
Gotcha, sorry for going on the defensive then.

andyprough wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:09 am I'm going for a non-newbie friendly writing style on this one. I figure for the folks who can't understand it, it's much better they don't try it.
I get ya, I guess we'll have to wait and see it that works. :crossfingers: :happy:

If you and MAYBL8 have time, I may ask at some point what versions of certain packages got pulled in from both those repos.
Or time dependent maybe I'll just give it an attempt in a VM myself.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:15 am
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:54 amIf you and MAYBL8 have time, I may ask at some point what versions of certain packages got pulled in from both those repos.
Or time dependent maybe I'll just give it an attempt in a VM myself.
I can post a text file of my apt history.log from my update from KDE 5.19.2 to 5.19.3 yesterday if you like, although I doubt there will be much of interest there. Better would be to look at a new install like MAYBL8 has been doing. I tried to follow his steps with AHS but mine was broken right away.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:27 am
by MAYBL8
Andy,
Thanks for your work on this.
I have it on a bare metal laptop that I have been installing various distros on trying to get some things to work on it. I have several topics on this forum sharing my trials and tribulations.
I don't mind breaking things and reinstalling if that is what it takes.
I've only had this running a few days now and it hasn't broke yet. Backups will be essential or snapshots if sid is about to change some critical packages if you keep it rolling.

Swamprabbit,
Can you give me a command string to run that will give you a list of packages you are interested in?

Also I was wondering do you guys think if I make a snapshot that someone could use it to do an install with to experiment on? I would suggest creating a separate partition on their system that they could boot to if they wanted to play with it then if they broke it they could just replace it or boot to a working partition that they have.

I'll provide some screen shots of my system in the future.

Also on the networking side. My system when it upgraded to sid broke my network . I had to manually set my interfaces file to pull an ip from dhcp. After I got connected to the internet I installed wicd. That works for me.

If you have any questions let me know.
Thanks
Dan

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:58 am
by MAYBL8
apt list --upgradeable from this morning.
Looks pretty safe but a snapshot looks advisable.

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$ apt list --upgradeable
Listing... Done
akonadi-server/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
akregator/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
ark/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
bluedevil/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
bsdextrautils/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
bsdutils/unstable 1:2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:2.35.2-9]
desktop-defaults-mx-common/mx,mx 20.07.03 all [upgradable from: 20.07.02]
dolphin/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
drkonqi/unknown 5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
eject/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
fdisk/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
fwupd/unstable 1.3.11-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.3.11-1]
gcc-8-base/unstable 8.4.0-4 amd64 [upgradable from: 8.3.0-6]
gcc-8-base/unstable 8.4.0-4 i386 [upgradable from: 8.3.0-6]
gir1.2-ayatanaappindicator3-0.1/unstable 0.5.5-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.5.4-2]
gwenview/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
juk/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
kactivitymanagerd/unknown 5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
kaddressbook/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
kate/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
kcalc/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
kde-cli-tools/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kde-spectacle/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
kde-style-breeze/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kdepim-runtime/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
khelpcenter/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
kinfocenter/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kmail/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
knotes/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
konqueror/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
konsole-kpart/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
konsole/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
korganizer/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
kscreen/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kwalletmanager/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
kwin-style-breeze/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kwrite/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libayatana-appindicator3-1/unstable 0.5.5-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.5.4-2]
libayatana-indicator3-7/unstable 0.7.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.6.3-1]
libblkid1/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
libcolorcorrect5/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libfdisk1/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
libfwupd2/unstable 1.3.11-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.3.11-1]
libfwupdplugin1/unstable 1.3.11-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.3.11-1]
libgcc1/unstable 1:10.1.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:8.3.0-6]
libkdecorations2-5v5/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadiagentbase5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadicontact5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadicore5abi2/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadimime5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadisearch-bin/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadisearch-plugins/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadisearchcore5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadisearchdebug5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadisearchpim5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadisearchxapian5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5akonadiwidgets5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5alarmcalendar5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5baloowidgets5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5calendarsupport5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5calendarutils5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5contacteditor5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5eventviews5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5followupreminder5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5gravatar5abi2/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5identitymanagement5/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5incidenceeditor5abi1/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5kaddressbookgrantlee5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5kaddressbookimportexport5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5kdepimdbusinterfaces5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5khtml-data/unknown 5.72.0-1~np2 all [upgradable from: 5.72.0-1~np1]
libkf5khtml5/unknown 5.72.0-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.72.0-1~np1]
libkf5kmanagesieve5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5konq6/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5ksieve5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5ksieveui5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5libkdepim5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5libkdepimakonadi5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5libkleo5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5mailcommon5abi2/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5mailimporter5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5mailtransport5/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5mailtransportakonadi5/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5messagecomposer5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5messagecore5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5messagelist5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5messageviewer5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5pimcommon5abi2/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5plasma5/unknown 5.72.0-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.72.0-1~np1]
libkf5plasmaquick5/unknown 5.72.0-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.72.0-1~np1]
libkf5screen-bin/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkf5screen7/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkf5templateparser5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5tnef5/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkf5webengineviewer5abi1/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libkfontinst5/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkfontinstui5/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkpimgapicalendar5/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
libkpimgapicontacts5/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
libkpimgapicore5abi1/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
libkpimgapitasks5/unknown 20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.04.3-1~np1]
libkscreenlocker5/unknown 5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
libkwaylandserver5/unknown 5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
libkworkspace5-5/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libmount1/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
libnotificationmanager1/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libokular5core9/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
libplasma-geolocation-interface5/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libpowerdevilcore2/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libsmartcols1/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
libtaskmanager6abi1/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libunwind8/unstable 1.2.1-11 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.2.1-10]
libuuid1/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
libweather-ion7/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
milou/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
mount/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
okular/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
plasma-dataengines-addons/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-desktop/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-discover/unknown 5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-framework/unknown 5.72.0-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.72.0-1~np1]
plasma-integration/unknown 5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-nm/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-pa/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-runners-addons/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-widgets-addons/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-workspace/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
polkit-kde-agent-1/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
powerdevil/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
reiser4progs/unstable 1.2.1-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.2.1-1]
rfkill/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]
systemsettings/unknown 4:5.19.3-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
util-linux/unstable 2.36-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.35.2-9]

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:24 am
by SwampRabbit
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:27 am Swamprabbit,
Can you give me a command string to run that will give you a list of packages you are interested in?
Dan,

There are a couple ways to skin this cat, a full list may be better than asking for specific ones.

Launch terminal from your desktop, Home folder, or where ever.

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dpkg-query --show --showformat='${binary:Package}\t${Version}\t${Architecture}\t${binary:Summary}\n' > kde-modified-packages.txt
Note: I'd prefer the architecture and summary because its good to know if both amd64 and i386 are installed and well the Summary because I don't know the KDE specific packages well.

You can modify the above by simply removing one of the portions.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:44 am
by MAYBL8
Screenshot of my current configuration:
Image

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:56 am
by MAYBL8
Here is my list of files as of this morning:
kde-modified-packages.xlsx

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 11:21 am
by SwampRabbit
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:56 am Here is my list of files as of this morning:
kde-modified-packages.xlsx
Thanks! A spreadsheet works too, saves a bit of time I guess with a few things. ;)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:03 pm
by MAYBL8
After doing a dist-upgrade today:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  gcc-8-base gcc-8-base:i386
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:17 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:44 am Screenshot of my current configuration:
Image
That's looking nice, it must be nice to be able to just apt update, apt upgrade the system. I have to hand select everything related to KDE for updates, which is around 500 packages.

How are your MX tools working? Have you tried MX Package Installer, MX Tweak, MX Boot Options, MX Snapthot, packages like that? I tested them this morning on my vm install, and all still seem to be working for me.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:26 pm
by MAYBL8
Everything seems to working as expected. I have not clicked on every option in every tool but what I have checked is working fine.
I have this error when doing QSI.

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Network:   Device-1: Intel Wireless-AC 9462 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 4000 bus ID: 00:14.3 
           chip ID: 8086:02f0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Use of uninitialized value $row{"type"} in string eq at /usr/local/bin/inxi line 12287.
Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/local/bin/inxi line 12314.
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 10.91 GiB (2.3%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Intel model: HBRPEKNX0202AH size: 476.94 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 15.8 Gb/s lanes: 2 serial: <filter> rev: HPS1 
           scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 vendor: Intel model: HBRPEKNX0202AHO size: 27.25 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 15.8 Gb/s lanes: 2 serial: <filter> rev: HPS2

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:33 pm
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:54 amIf you and MAYBL8 have time, I may ask at some point what versions of certain packages got pulled in from both those repos.
Or time dependent maybe I'll just give it an attempt in a VM myself.
@SwampRabbit - Do you know is there a way in Debian systems to "pin" the KDE repos from Norbert to only grab their dependencies from Debian Sid or Testing, and to tell the system that everything else on the system is to update from the MX repos and from Debian stable? I think there must be a way, because that seems to be how the MX repos are set up.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 12:55 pm
by SwampRabbit
Outside of basic and creative apt pinning and it some scripts? Not sure honestly and can’t really look because I am not at a computer.

I would look at how our MXPI MX Test Repo tab functions. Because I think that is essentially what you are looking for.

Someone else is for sure more experienced with such wizardry too.

I don’t think our repos have anything to do with it really, it’s more of an apt setup and functionality thing.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 3:56 pm
by FraterLinux
kksmith wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:49 pm thanks for the headsup. good to know since the plasma on MXkde is quite old.
Distro testers like to see news and the latest packages. But as they don't use it exhaustively they don't see the bugs. For a home user it is better to have an older and more stable version !!!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:52 pm
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:24 am Launch terminal from your desktop, Home folder, or where ever.

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dpkg-query --show --showformat='${binary:Package}\t${Version}\t${Architecture}\t${binary:Summary}\n' > kde-modified-packages.txt
Note: I'd prefer the architecture and summary because its good to know if both amd64 and i386 are installed and well the Summary because I don't know the KDE specific packages well.

You can modify the above by simply removing one of the portions.
I've attached the output for this command from my VM of MX 19.2 with KDE 5.19.3, using Sid for KDE dependencies. The difference between mine and Dan's is I did not use an AHS base and I did not upgrade the entire system to Sid.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:04 pm
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 4:52 pm I've attached the output for this command from my VM of MX 19.2 with KDE 5.19.3, using Sid for KDE dependencies. The difference between mine and Dan's is I did not use an AHS base and I did not upgrade the entire system to Sid.
Thanks Andy, I am sure this will come in handy in the future for sure.

The main reason I asked you both for this is to see, what specific core/base items may or may not be needed when looking at KDE 5.19.3, it helps to see the delta from your installs.

It will be interesting to see both attempts going forward. The AHS version I don't think makes too much of a difference, I assume that what is specific to the AHS repo doesn't make too much of a difference.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:36 pm
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:04 pmIt will be interesting to see both attempts going forward. The AHS version I don't think makes too much of a difference, I assume that what is specific to the AHS repo doesn't make too much of a difference.
Dan's laptop would not boot without AHS, so that was vital for his machine. I believe the bigger difference in terms of packages is that Dan has upgraded the base system to Sid, whereas I am still pulling the base system upgrades from Buster.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:47 pm
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:36 pm Dan's laptop would not boot without AHS, so that was vital for his machine. I believe the bigger difference in terms of packages is that Dan has upgraded the base system to Sid, whereas I am still pulling the base system upgrades from Buster.
Agree, I think your list helps closer with identifying any potential ability to have newer versions of KDE work on the current base or down the road MX-20.

Will be interesting to see how you and Dan fare.

Not sure if its something you both want or could help, but I keep several Debian QA pages bookmarked
https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?log ... debian.org

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 9:25 am
by MAYBL8
Thanks for that link. I just have to figure out how to use the info in there to help me. I will bookmark it.
I'll take all the links you have. More info is always helpful to understand things.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:32 am
by MAYBL8
Here is another tip on using sid:

If you are smart when doing a "apt-get dist-upgrade" and watch for the maintainer comment warnings or see that half your applications are about to be removed, you stop and wait. That is it. It usually takes the maintainers a couple of days and things are back to normal.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:35 am
by MAYBL8
This is a typical example of using sid, you will get this type of output when trying to install some packages:

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The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 qt5-style-kvantum : Depends: libqt4-svg (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not installable
                     Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.8.0) but it is not installable
                     Depends: libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.8.0) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:28 am
by MAYBL8
This is another good place to help with sid issues:
https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?board=22.0

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:13 pm
by andyprough
New installation on bare metal laptop this morning - antiX Sid runit version. The nice thing about this is I don't have to do anything but add Norbert's repos and go.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:30 pm
by MAYBL8
nice

sid is quiet today

I've added a lot of KDE and Plasma packages .

I have some theme install issues but that is always the case with KDE.

Other than that all is working great for a sid system.

Waiting for 5.20 to hit next.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:40 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 1:30 pm nice

sid is quiet today

I've added a lot of KDE and Plasma packages .

I have some theme install issues but that is always the case with KDE.

Other than that all is working great for a sid system.

Waiting for 5.20 to hit next.
Sid has been behaving mostly well for me today. I ran into one dependency conflict as I was setting up alsa:

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apt-get install alsaplayer-jack libgcc1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libgcc1 : Depends: gcc-10-base (= 10.1.0-1) but 10.1.0-6 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Fortunately, I got alsa sound working without alsaplayer-jack, so not a big issue. As you said earlier, I'd rather sit back and allow the Debian Sid maintainers to find and fix those problems. If there's a place to report these conflicts, we should probably do so as we see them.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:15 pm
by andyprough
So this is interesting. I installed antiX Sid (runit version) and installed Norbert's KDE 5.19.3 on it. Then I added the MX 19.2 repo and the MX gpg key, and was able to add the MX Package Installer
MX repo:

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cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
sudo nano mx.list
#Pasted this -- 
#MX Community Main and Test Repos
deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
MX gpg key:

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git clone https://github.com/MX-Linux/checkaptgpg
cd checkaptgpg/
sudo apt install ./checkaptgpg_19.10.08mx19+1_all.deb
sudo checkaptgpg
Had to run 'sudo checkaptgpg' twice for it to pull in the MX gpg key.

Installing MX Package Installer:

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sudo apt update
sudo apt install mx-packageinstaller
Then the MX Package Installer was added to the 'System' part of the KDE menu, and it started up and I was able to install Palemoon browser without a problem.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:41 pm
by MAYBL8
Andy,
Looks like your gcc-10-base is ready:

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$ apt list --upgradeable               
Listing... Done
cpp-10/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
gcc-10-base/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
gcc-10/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libasan6/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libatomic1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libcc1-0/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libgcc-10-dev/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libgcc-s1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libgfortran5/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libgomp1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libitm1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
liblsan0/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libquadmath0/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libstdc++6/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libtsan0/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
libubsan1/unstable 10.2.0-3 amd64 [upgradable from: 10.1.0-6]
qt5-style-kvantum/mx 0.15.3+repack-0.1~mx19+1 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.14.1+repack-1]

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:43 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:41 pm Andy,
Looks like your gcc-10-base is ready
Yup, and alsaplayer-jack installed without needing it as a dependency this time. Sid definitely lives up to its unstable label.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:50 am
by MAYBL8
Let's discuss repos for a minute.
I will list mine below as of this morning.
I've been playing around with them trying some different things.
I know my install is a little different from yours and the dev's seem to be preferring yours. That is fine to me.
I don't want to wonder too far away from MX.
The goal for me in this project was to have the best of MX and MX KDE while also having the most up to date Plasma and KDE I could have on a somewhat rolling basis. I know a lot to ask. Time will tell but it looks like we have something here that works.

I need a lesson in repo understanding with what I am doing.
I want the MX tools in as much as we can make them work with the parameters listed above knowing that some things are probably going to break.

One of the things I would like is the use of the test repo. What I mean by that is if I can use it to install some packages.
Being on sid I might already have access to the latest packages but if I can use the MX package installer to install those packages I wonder if that would be a safer way to install them. An example I will use is Libreoffice. 7.0.xxx is out on sid and I read a post that they were putting that in the test repo. I think it would be easier and maybe safer for me to install it from there.

Right now on my system when I click the test repo it acts like it getting the list of packages but displays nothing in the list.

Maybe I can't do this and that's fine. I know it wasn't designed to work with my Franken Debian system. I don't really need it , it would just be a nice feature to use.

So here is my repo list.
Should I make a changes?

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Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.easyname.ch/mxlinux-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable non-free contrib main
           2: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ sid non-free main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma519/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:01 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:50 am Let's discuss repos for a minute.
I will list mine below as of this morning.
I've been playing around with them trying some different things.
I know my install is a little different from yours and the dev's seem to be preferring yours. That is fine to me.
I don't want to wonder too far away from MX.
The goal for me in this project was to have the best of MX and MX KDE while also having the most up to date Plasma and KDE I could have on a somewhat rolling basis. I know a lot to ask. Time will tell but it looks like we have something here that works.

I need a lesson in repo understanding with what I am doing.
I want the MX tools in as much as we can make them work with the parameters listed above knowing that some things are probably going to break.

One of the things I would like is the use of the test repo. What I mean by that is if I can use it to install some packages.
Being on sid I might already have access to the latest packages but if I can use the MX package installer to install those packages I wonder if that would be a safer way to install them. An example I will use is Libreoffice. 7.0.xxx is out on sid and I read a post that they were putting that in the test repo. I think it would be easier and maybe safer for me to install it from there.

Right now on my system when I click the test repo it acts like it getting the list of packages but displays nothing in the list.

Maybe I can't do this and that's fine. I know it wasn't designed to work with my Franken Debian system. I don't really need it , it would just be a nice feature to use.

So here is my repo list.
Should I make a changes?

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Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           1: deb http://mirror.easyname.ch/mxlinux-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable non-free contrib main
           2: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ sid non-free main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma519/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
You are missing the MX test repo, and I am missing it also. We'll need to find the line from a working MX install and add it to sources. If it won't update, you'll need to download and run the checkaptgpg package from MX's github per my instructions a few posts back to pull in the correct gpg key. I had to run checkaptgpg twice to get all the keys pulled in.

EDIT - you may have the MX test repo in your sources already but it's just commented out - worth checking on. I don't have it at all on my new antiX Sid install where I added the main MX repo. I have it in my other MX installs, but I'm not next to my computer right now.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:28 am
by MAYBL8
I think it might be more than that. I believe the code behind the package installer for the test repo tab just loads the repo when you click the tab and then removes it when you are finished.
I think they don't want you to permanently add it to your repository list. So that it doesn't mess up the system.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:16 am
by SwampRabbit
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:28 am I think it might be more than that. I believe the code behind the package installer for the test repo tab just loads the repo when you click the tab and then removes it when you are finished.
I think they don't want you to permanently add it to your repository list. So that it doesn't mess up the system.
It “enables” the repo, but it need to be in your repo list in order to enable it.

So from the whole thread you two are testing installing of applications and packages which is great. But how much testing of the applications themselves are you doing?

Debian unstable is more than just a moving target of an packages list... the applications and packages are “unstable” meaning that some of them have major bugs.

For example, when we were backporting for 19.2 AHS .. Mesa and related Intel packages got updated 3 times, one time it sat at 20.0.6 I think it was for a bit and I had to package 20.0.7 myself in order to get a version that didn’t have critical bugs to fix hardware acceleration for video play back.

How much daily use are you getting out of these systems right now?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:28 am
by MAYBL8
For mine I am using it as my main system. If it becomes a big problem due to unstable I will stop using it.
I would like to keep it updated and running with the sid packages.
I can test whatever you want me to test if it helps.
I will report bugs to debian or to you guys if you want me to do that.
If using the packages in sid is testing then I am doing that for the packages I am using.
I am not testing every possible package there is. I don't have time for that.
Let me know if you want me to do something specific.
On packaging and such if that is what you want me to try you will have to guide me since I haven't done that before. I am willing to give anything a try.

I will add the test repo and see if that works.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:32 am
by MAYBL8
This is the repo list from my MX stable system:
I don't see the test repo here but it works.

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Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/balena-etcher.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://mirrors.evowise.com/mxlinux-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:52 am
by SwampRabbit
Hmmm I thought there was a sources list under /etc/apt that still has it. If you look in MX Repo Manager is it there? I could be mis-thinking on all that too.

The problem with Sid is that you can’t test every application and function. You won’t know if it breaks, how long it will be broken, or how bad it’s broken, and the impact on other things to break.

Things in Debian Sid and Testing are tested to a degree though, but not everything is seen. Recently for pdfarranger, Debian was missing a depends, it was like that a long time. I had to reach out to the pdfarranger dev and then a bug got reported to Debian. That was about a week into it being broken after I identified it.

Look at how many issues and of potential issues get brought up about considered stable packages here... compound that by a million... that’s Debian Sid.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:08 am
by MAYBL8
You are right about testing.
I need now that I am using sid how to report bugs. I know there are instructions on the debian web site.

As far as the the test repo goes.
I see it in the repo manager but it is unchecked. Maybe because it it there and when you activate the tab it uses it?
I don't know.
I will add the repo to my list and see what happens.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:16 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:32 am This is the repo list from my MX stable system:
I don't see the test repo here but it works.

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Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/balena-etcher.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://mirrors.evowise.com/mxlinux-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
On my system, MX Testing repo is commented out in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list:

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# MX Community Main and Test Repos
deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
#deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/testrepo/ buster test

#ahs hardware stack repo
#deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
I assume it gets uncommented by MX Package Installer, and then re-commented when MXPI is done using it.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:25 am
by MAYBL8
So here is what I am seeing.
Whether it is checked or unchecked the MX test tab does not show any packages.
I think we will have to or have someone look at the source code to see what it is doing.
That is if we even want to mess with it that much.
I don't really need it as I said I was just going to use it or test it to see if it worked.
using apt-get update and apt upgrade or apt-dist upgrade from the cli is the preferred way.
If the test repo is there it should look there for packages.
If it there I wonder what takes precedent , it or sid?
That might be an apt pinning setup .

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:32 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:25 am So here is what I am seeing.
Whether it is checked or unchecked the MX test tab does not show any packages.
I think we will have to or have someone look at the source code to see what it is doing.
That is if we even want to mess with it that much.
I don't really need it as I said I was just going to use it or test it to see if it worked.
using apt-get update and apt upgrade or apt-dist upgrade from the cli is the preferred way.
If the test repo is there it should look there for packages.
If it there I wonder what takes precedent , it or sid?
That might be an apt pinning setup .
You may be missing the gpg key for the MX Test repo. I'll try adding it to my antiX Sid setup in a little while and see if I need to add the gpg key to get the MX Test repo populated in MXPI.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:01 pm
by SwampRabbit
The MX “Test Repo”, I empathize it because it is not “testing” really.

Much of what is in there may be in Debian Testing and Unstable.

The only things really lost are packages never packaged for Debian at all, packages that we have never versions of that aren’t in Debian at all, and packages that we have fixed bugs in or modified to provide something Debian doesn’t.

As far as someone looking at why it’s not working for Dan with MXPI... not sure if anyone is inclined to right now and we honestly don’t have to if other things take precedence right now like the maintenance of MX, KDE beta, planning for MX-20, etc, etc.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 12:15 pm
by MAYBL8
Swamprabbit,
I understand completely . I know we are out on an island by ourselves.
I appreciate the help you do give us. Thanks for taking the time.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:43 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:25 am So here is what I am seeing.
Whether it is checked or unchecked the MX test tab does not show any packages.
I think we will have to or have someone look at the source code to see what it is doing.
That is if we even want to mess with it that much.
I don't really need it as I said I was just going to use it or test it to see if it worked.
using apt-get update and apt upgrade or apt-dist upgrade from the cli is the preferred way.
If the test repo is there it should look there for packages.
If it there I wonder what takes precedent , it or sid?
That might be an apt pinning setup .
I just tried it, could not get MX Testing repo to show up in the MXPI. I think we could enable the repo and access it from synaptic though. I'll have to try that.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:42 pm
by andyprough
I can verify that MX testing works from within synaptic if I add it to antiX Sid. For example, the attached screenshot is of Synaptic's versions for the blender package, with version 2.80 from the MX stable repo, and version 2.83.2 from both Sid and from the MX testing repo.

However, when I try to install that specific blender package from MX test repo, Synaptic throws up an error message regarding broken packages. So, at least for blender, the Sid libraries are incompatible with the dependencies required by the MX testing version of blender. (see first screenshot)

When I try a simpler package like deadbeef, Synaptic installs the MX test version without a problem. (see second screenshot)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:52 pm
by anticapitalista
Just to point out that MX Test repo (it is not called MX testing) is buster based.
If you are using sid repos, you should probably not use MX test repo.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:05 pm
by andyprough
anticapitalista wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:52 pm Just to point out that MX Test repo (it is not called MX testing) is buster based.
If you are using sid repos, you should probably not use MX test repo.
Good point, and so far I don't see any packages in MX test that give a significant version advantage over the packages in Sid, so it's probably not worth the effort. It was a bit of fun trying it though.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:19 pm
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:05 pm
anticapitalista wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:52 pm Just to point out that MX Test repo (it is not called MX testing) is buster based.
If you are using sid repos, you should probably not use MX test repo.
Good point, and so far I don't see any packages in MX test that give a significant version advantage over the packages in Sid, so it's probably not worth the effort. It was a bit of fun trying it though.
anti is right about that for sure.

But like I said, some of the packages we backport from Bullseye or Sid are actually versions ahead of or modified to be better OOTB for users than what is in Bullseye or Sid. Chromium, MystiQ, Ranger, vokoscreen-ng just to name a few examples really quick. Our versions are superior to anything Debian has IMHO.

We try to make sure our versions of anything in our Stable or Test repo do not trump anything that may come down from Debian... unless we don't want their versions overriding ours. So that can answer why some of our versions may not be "higher" than Debian Bullseye or Sid. One example of this was the intel-microcode recently. It was backported by us shortly before it came down as a forced update from Debian. We don't want to not allow Debian to push security updates to us if they move quickly from Sid > Bullseye > Buster.

But its just not stuff in the MX Test Repo, its many things in stable, but you do miss out I think by not being able to use the MX Test Repo. For your experiments... not really a big deal.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:06 pm
by MAYBL8
I have a small issue in system settings. According to what I have read there should be a selection called Desktop Behavior.
I don't seem to have it.
What I need to do is change the timing on the when the lock screen activates. That should be in that section.
Here is what I have:
Image

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:33 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:06 pm I have a small issue in system settings. According to what I have read there should be a selection called Desktop Behavior.
I don't seem to have it.
What I need to do is change the timing on the when the lock screen activates. That should be in that section.
You need to install the kde-config-screenlocker package. There's no Desktop Behavior section anymore I don't think, but once you install kde-config-screenlocker you'll get a 'Screen Locking' module under the Workspace Behavior section. That's the module with options for changing the screen lock timing.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:43 pm
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:19 pmBut like I said, some of the packages we backport from Bullseye or Sid are actually versions ahead of or modified to be better OOTB for users than what is in Bullseye or Sid. Chromium, MystiQ, Ranger, vokoscreen-ng just to name a few examples really quick. Our versions are superior to anything Debian has IMHO.
Of those four packages, my franken-antiX-Sid-MX-KDE system ( :number1: ) was willing to try to install Ranger and vokoscreen-ng from MX Test, but threw up errors when I selected the Chromium and MystiQ MX Test packages. I did not really install any of them, as I don't want to destroy this unstable beast any faster than necessary.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:43 pm
by MAYBL8
Thanks,
Now I have to figure out what else I am missing so I can stop asking these kinds of questions.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:47 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:43 pm Thanks,
Now I have to figure out what else I am missing so I can stop asking these kinds of questions.
Questions are fine, not a problem, I've been asking you a few too. That's what this whole endeavor is about. It is worth spending a good bit of time searching through all the packages in Synaptic that come up with a 'kde' search, or when searching 'plasma', or 'qt', to see what you could still use. For settings, search 'kde-config' and look at all the modules.

Also, I meant to tell you, I found that Debian has a 'kde-full' package that seems to install quite a few useful things after you've first installed task-kde-desktop. Unfortunately, task-kde-desktop just isn't a great all-encompassing meta-package.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:56 pm
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:43 pm Of those four packages, my franken-antiX-Sid-MX-KDE system ( :number1: ) was willing to try to install Ranger and vokoscreen-ng from MX Test, but threw up errors when I selected the Chromium and MystiQ MX Test packages. I did not really install any of them, as I don't want to destroy this unstable beast any faster than necessary.
Probably because of a dependency or dependency of a dependency that isn’t in your available repos OR conflicts.. hard to say Without seeing the output.

This is the problem with mashing up multiple base OS versions.

When we build packages, they are built against a base OS version like anti was talking about (Buster vs Sid). Now this may or may not cause issues, most of the time what you are probably seeing isn’t what “build depends” are used to create the package but the specifically defined runtime “depends” needed to use the package.
Sometimes packages have specific versions as dependencies, sometimes not.

Edit: this isn’t just us that do this, it’s Debian, Ubuntu, etc, etc. which is why we tell people not to mix and match. Especially with Ubuntu PPAs.

Would both of you be interested in learning more about that sort of stuff? I mentioned it to Stevo already, but I can bring it up again.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:38 pm
by MAYBL8
Sure I will give it a go. I take you need help packaging ?
I guess I would have to set up a different system than this one for doing that?
I have several systems so that is no problem or I could just partition out something on this system.
Just let me know. I will be glad to help in any way I can.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:13 pm
by SwampRabbit
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:38 pm Sure I will give it a go. I take you need help packaging ?
I guess I would have to set up a different system than this one for doing that?
I have several systems so that is no problem or I could just partition out something on this system.
Just let me know. I will be glad to help in any way I can.
One thing at a time, let me talk to Stevo again... he’s the boss. ;)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:35 pm
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:13 pm One thing at a time, let me talk to Stevo again... he’s the boss. ;)
I'm in also - let us know. Do we get to break stuff? :attention: :killcomputer:

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:51 pm
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:35 pm I'm in also - let us know. Do we get to break stuff? :attention: :killcomputer:
I sent Stevo a PM, so unless he gets in contact with you or tells me to, please just hold tight. ;)

I've fudge a thing here and there, luckily nothing that really affected users lol. :p

Don't stop your KDE adventure in the mean time. :cool:

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:12 am
by Stevo
Our Chromium is the same as Bullseye's, so don't install our test repo version. Debian removes the va-api feature for Buster, for unknown reasons. Our MystiQ just has a couple extra mkv presets that I found most useful, but you can get upstream Debian versions with my patch here: https://build.opensuse.org/package/show ... ert/mystiq

We greatly prefer that MX packages be built in "clean rooms" using pbuilder or sbuild. This lets you build for any architecture that Debian supports on your machine, though in practice MX only needs Intel-type 32 and 64-bit builds. Plus your daily driver install can be as insane as can be--the packaging environments are in virtual boring vanilla Debian or MX setups (you can switch back and forth easily from Debian and MX by adding or removing the various MX repos to the build chroots)

Forget all you have ever been told about the "configure, make, sudo make install" way of building programs, which is way too much of a simplification. Backporting can make even complex packaging a breeze, though some can need a lot of tweaking.

There is a Deepin DE PPA that seems to have a manageable number of packages that may be good practice for the much larger chore of doing a newer KDE, and some users have asked for Deepin in our repos. I saw it at the Ubuntu Handbook blog.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:58 am
by sunrat
andyprough wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:47 pmAlso, I meant to tell you, I found that Debian has a 'kde-full' package that seems to install quite a few useful things after you've first installed task-kde-desktop. Unfortunately, task-kde-desktop just isn't a great all-encompassing meta-package.
The package kde-plasma-desktop would install most (or all) of those useful things without flooding the system with lots of extra applications you probably don't want. kde-full gives you everything possibly even including the kitchen sink. ;)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:09 am
by asqwerth
I find even KDE-Standard too chock full of programs I don't need, but it was a useful exercise for me to install the same on my standard MX19 XFCE install prior to work starting on MX-KDE.

I learnt a lot about what was available in KDE and deemed "standard" in Debian's eyes, LOL. Even Neon Developer's Edition didn't have so much stuff, and that comes direct from KDE!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:05 am
by MAYBL8
Andy,
I am having a issue restarting my system. It just hang with the text on the screen saying restarting system.
I was wondering if you were having any restarting issues.
Thanks
Dan

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:35 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:05 am Andy,
I am having a issue restarting my system. It just hang with the text on the screen saying restarting system.
I was wondering if you were having any restarting issues.
Thanks
Dan
I'm not having restart trouble right now but I have had with these systems in the past. Might need to try restarting or shutting down by logging out of KDE first and then using the power button on the login screen.

It's unfortunate that Sid is truly unstable. You might benefit from reinstalling AHS, switching to Debian Testing repo instead of Sid, upgrading the base, and installing from Norbert's Debian Testing KDE repos. I believe you would point your Debian repos to Bullseye instead of Sid. In my experience, Testing gives fewer of these types of problems than Sid.

The good thing about Sid is it's always accessible. With testing, I believe you have to stop updating the system prior to the next Debian release, and then wait until a couple months after that next release when the next Testing repo is open for business. At which point you may have to reinstall.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:58 am
by MAYBL8
I've had issues come and go. Could be a package issue buried deep in there somewhere.
I will take a look at the logs and see if I can what is hanging the restarting process.
Sometimes it's hard to find the exact bug if it is one.
I think my system is pretty stable at the moment. No outstanding items being held back or causing any running issues.
I have doing snapshots. Do you have a backup regimen that you use.
Debian recommends Daily weekly monthly. I don't think all that is necessary when I can just reinstall.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:03 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:58 am I've had issues come and go. Could be a package issue buried deep in there somewhere.
I will take a look at the logs and see if I can what is hanging the restarting process.
Sometimes it's hard to find the exact bug if it is one.
I think my system is pretty stable at the moment. No outstanding items being held back or causing any running issues.
I have doing snapshots. Do you have a backup regimen that you use.
Debian recommends Daily weekly monthly. I don't think all that is necessary when I can just reinstall.
I back up my data to the cloud and external drives. System I don't worry about as I can reinstall quickly like you.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:06 pm
by andyprough
Norbert just updated the KDE repos to 5.19.4. Time to see if this breaks anything. :popcorn:
https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/07/ ... 020-07-30/

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:08 pm
by andyprough
Here is my list of 90 updates and 1 new package for the move from KDE 5.19.3 to KDE 5.19.4 on my antiX Sid install. Getting a bunch of new grub and mesa packages from Sid, which could make things interesting.

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The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libelf-dev libicu63 libx264-159 libx86emu2
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard
The following packages will be upgraded:
  ark breeze breeze-cursor-theme drkonqi firefox-esr fonts-dustin git
  git-man grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common kactivitymanagerd
  kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data kde-config-screenlocker kde-config-sddm
  kde-style-breeze kdeplasma-addons-data kgamma5 kwin-common kwin-data
  kwin-style-breeze kwin-x11 libcolorcorrect5 libcups2 libegl-mesa0 libegl1
  libelf-dev libelf1 libgbm1 libgl-dev libgl1 libgl1-mesa-dri libglapi-mesa
  libgles2 libglvnd0 libglx-dev libglx-mesa0 libglx0 libkdecorations2-5v5
  libkdecorations2private7 libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7
  libkf5sysguard-data libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkscreenlocker5
  libksgrd9 libksysguardformatter1 libksysguardsensorfaces1
  libksysguardsensors1 libkwaylandserver5 libkwin4-effect-builtins1
  libkwineffects12 libkwinglutils12 libkwinxrenderutils12 libkworkspace5-5
  libnotificationmanager1 libnspr4 libnss-myhostname libnss3
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libprocesscore9 libprocessui9
  libqt5webengine-data libqt5webengine5 libqt5webenginecore5
  libqt5webenginewidgets5 libtaskmanager6abi1 libweather-ion7 libxatracker2
  mesa-common-dev milou oxygen-sounds plasma-dataengines-addons
  plasma-desktop plasma-desktop-data plasma-integration plasma-nm plasma-pa
  plasma-runners-addons plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-widgets-addons
  plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-data plasma-workspace-wallpapers
  polkit-kde-agent-1 qml-module-qtwebengine systemsettings
90 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 214 MB of archives.
After this operation, 260 MB disk space will be freed.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:20 pm
by andyprough
and now I've lost all icons and a bunch of other visual stuff, and am having to start kwin manually. Not fun.
:hitmyhead:

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:29 pm
by sunrat
andyprough wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:20 pm and now I've lost all icons and a bunch of other visual stuff, and am having to start kwin manually. Not fun.
:hitmyhead:
I almost posted predicting that after post #1. It was a matter of "when" rather than "if". You did well to have it last this long.
Interesting pastime though. :p ;)
Some people at siduction have added the Norbert repos to do the same thing. They had a few problems including needing to pull several packages from experimental.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:29 am
by andyprough
sunrat wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:29 pm
andyprough wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:20 pm and now I've lost all icons and a bunch of other visual stuff, and am having to start kwin manually. Not fun.
:hitmyhead:
I almost posted predicting that after post #1. It was a matter of "when" rather than "if". You did well to have it last this long.
Interesting pastime though. :p ;)
Some people at siduction have added the Norbert repos to do the same thing. They had a few problems including needing to pull several packages from experimental.
I wonder what they needed from experimental? I haven't seen that. Could be that they were wanting to jump forward to KDE 5.19 from KDE 5.18.5 before Norbert had access to the correct version of the Qt libs in testing and unstable. He did warn at one point that he was having to wait a couple weeks to make those upgrades generally available because the Qt versions he needed were only in experimental.

So, I'm done for the night. kwin is starting normally now, but all icons and icon-type thingies are a disaster. Could be KDE packages, could be the new mesa packages - hard to say. It will be a good mystery to work on tomorrow.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:33 am
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:29 am So, I'm done for the night. kwin is starting normally now, but all icons and icon-type thingies are a disaster. Could be KDE packages, could be the new mesa packages - hard to say. It will be a good mystery to work on tomorrow.
FWIW, I am using the latest Mesa from Sid without issues at least on MX-19 AHS as I test the backport.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:50 am
by norbert
Hi everyone,

Norbert, the one that does the KDE/Plasma packaging, here ;-)

Please let me know if some things don't work, they should! If icons or whatever are missing, then probably some packages are not included and I need to add a Recommends/Depends.

Thanks

Norbert

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:06 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:50 am Hi everyone,

Norbert, the one that does the KDE/Plasma packaging, here ;-)

Please let me know if some things don't work, they should! If icons or whatever are missing, then probably some packages are not included and I need to add a Recommends/Depends.

Thanks

Norbert
Hi Norbert, I'll let you know one way or another, My thought right now is my machine may be having trouble with the mesa package updates that arrived at the same time. I tried adding and trying different themes and icon packs last evening and tried temporarily switching to openbox instead of kwin, but the strange graphics blacking out of these objects was consistent. I also tried deleting my ~/.kde config directory and completely removing and reinstalling KDE, but saw no change. If I have time today I'll dig further, I haven't done much searching yet on this type of bug report, probably there are some workarounds available if I start searching the broader web.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:25 am
by norbert
Uhh ohh, that sounds rather strange. Which GPU are you using? I don't now much about this, my computers use either Intel (laptop) or AMDGPU (desktop).

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:30 am
by sunrat
Hi Norbert and welcome. Not sure if you read the rest of this thread but it's about installing on MX which is based on Debian Buster. Sounds crazy to me but why not be adventurous if it rings your bell. :)
I know some people on siduction (sid based) are running from your repo successfully.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:32 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:25 am Uhh ohh, that sounds rather strange. Which GPU are you using? I don't now much about this, my computers use either Intel (laptop) or AMDGPU (desktop).
Yes, I'm also using an old reliable Intel i3 for cpu and graphics. It's not a problem, it's not my main work machine. I'll have time to experiment with it and see if I can trace down the problem and find a fix. Thanks for checking in, hope we can convince you to try our beautiful MX distro while you are here.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:34 am
by andyprough
sunrat wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:30 am Hi Norbert and welcome. Not sure if you read the rest of this thread but it's about installing on MX which is based on Debian Buster. Sounds crazy to me but why not be adventurous if it rings your bell. :)
I know some people on siduction (sid based) are running from your repo successfully.
Norbert and I had been chatting about my MX experiments with his repos in his blog comments for a few months. I've also gotten his repos running on Devuan and antiX installs - currently I'm having trouble with an antiX Sid install, I haven't even checked my MX install with his KDE repos yet - I should do that.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:36 am
by asqwerth
Now, if only Debian Testing had the Plasma LTS ver 5.18 instead of what appears to be 5.17 right now, it might be worth a punt just running Detbian Testing and enabling MX repos. But I no longer have the time nor energy to do those sorts of experiments.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:50 am
by norbert
Haaaaa, convincing me to MXLinux, hmmm I guess if I would move I first would try Devuan, but let us see how it goes.

Anyway, I'm more than open to help prepare packages specifically for MXLinux if necessary for to library differences.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:54 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:50 am Haaaaa, convincing me to MXLinux, hmmm I guess if I would move I first would try Devuan, but let us see how it goes.

Anyway, I'm more than open to help prepare packages specifically for MXLinux if necessary for to library differences.
Have you thought of any way to ever get these KDE packages running on Debian stable, like MX is using? I use Sid repos to get them running, but if they could ever run natively with Debian stable repos, that would be quite a game changer!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:57 am
by norbert
That is unfortunately practically impossible due to Qt dependencies. One would need to recompile - and fix - all packages that use Qt in stable. And that, sorry, is far out of my time budget ;-)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:30 am
by MAYBL8
Sorry guys I'm late to the game.
Been busy at work. Working some extra hours and not doing anything after work.
Here is what my system is going to update:
Going to push the button after making this post.

Code: Select all

$ apt list --upgradeable   
Listing... Done
ark/unknown 4:20.04.3-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:20.04.3-1~np1]
bluedevil/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
breeze-cursor-theme/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
breeze/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
cups-bsd/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
cups-client/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
cups-common/unstable,unstable 2.3.3-2 all [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
cups-core-drivers/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
cups-daemon/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
cups-ipp-utils/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
cups-ppdc/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
cups-server-common/unstable,unstable 2.3.3-2 all [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
cups/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
dkms/unstable,unstable 2.8.3-3 all [upgradable from: 2.8.2-2]
drkonqi/unknown 5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
firefox/unstable 79.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 78.0.2-1]
gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-4.0/unstable 2.28.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.28.3-2]
gir1.2-webkit2-4.0/unstable 2.28.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.28.3-2]
git-man/unstable,unstable 1:2.28.0-1 all [upgradable from: 1:2.28.0~rc2-1]
git/unstable 1:2.28.0-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1:2.28.0~rc2-1]
grub-common/unstable 2.04-9 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.04-8]
grub-efi-amd64-bin/unstable 2.04-9 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.04-8]
grub-efi-ia32-bin/unstable 2.04-9 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.04-8]
grub-pc-bin/unstable 2.04-9 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.04-8]
grub-pc/unstable 2.04-9 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.04-8]
grub2-common/unstable 2.04-9 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.04-8]
kactivitymanagerd/unknown 5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
kde-cli-tools-data/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kde-cli-tools/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kde-config-gtk-style-preview/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kde-config-gtk-style/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kde-config-screenlocker/unknown 5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
kde-config-sddm/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kde-style-breeze/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kdeplasma-addons-data/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kinfocenter/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kscreen/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
ksysguard-data/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
ksysguard/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
ksysguardd/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kwin-common/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
kwin-data/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
kwin-style-breeze/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
kwin-x11/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libayatana-indicator3-7/unstable 0.7.1-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7.0-1]
libcolorcorrect5/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libcups2/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
libcupsimage2/unstable 2.3.3-2 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.3-1]
libegl-mesa0/unstable 20.1.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.1.2-1]
libegl1/unstable 1.3.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.3.1-1mx19+1]
libgbm1/unstable 20.1.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.1.2-1]
libgl1-mesa-dri/unstable 20.1.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.1.2-1]
libgl1/unstable 1.3.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.3.1-1mx19+1]
libglapi-mesa/unstable 20.1.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.1.2-1]
libgles2/unstable 1.3.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.3.1-1mx19+1]
libglvnd0/unstable 1.3.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.3.1-1mx19+1]
libglx-mesa0/unstable 20.1.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.1.2-1]
libglx0/unstable 1.3.2-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.3.1-1mx19+1]
libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18/unstable 2.28.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.28.3-2]
libkdecorations2-5v5/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkdecorations2private7/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkf5screen-bin/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkf5screen7/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkf5sysguard-bin/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libkf5sysguard-data/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libkfontinst5/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkfontinstui5/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libkscreenlocker5/unknown 5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
libksgrd9/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libksignalplotter9/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libksysguardformatter1/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libksysguardsensorfaces1/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libksysguardsensors1/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libkwaylandserver5/unknown 5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
libkwin4-effect-builtins1/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libkwineffects12/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libkwinglutils12/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libkwinxrenderutils12/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libkworkspace5-5/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libnotificationmanager1/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libnspr4/unstable 2:4.27-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2:4.25-1]
libnss3/unstable 2:3.55-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2:3.53.1-1]
libostree-1-1/unstable 2020.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2020.3-1]
libplasma-geolocation-interface5/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libpowerdevilcore2/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libpowerdevilui5/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libprocesscore9/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libprocessui9/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np2]
libqt5webengine-data/unstable,unstable 5.14.2+dfsg1-4 all [upgradable from: 5.14.2+dfsg1-3]
libqt5webengine5/unstable 5.14.2+dfsg1-4 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.14.2+dfsg1-3]
libqt5webenginecore5/unstable 5.14.2+dfsg1-4 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.14.2+dfsg1-3]
libqt5webenginewidgets5/unstable 5.14.2+dfsg1-4 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.14.2+dfsg1-3]
libtaskmanager6abi1/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libweather-ion7/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37/unstable 2.28.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.28.3-2]
libxatracker2/unstable 20.1.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.1.2-1]
mesa-va-drivers/unstable 20.1.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.1.2-1]
mesa-vdpau-drivers/unstable 20.1.4-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 20.1.2-1]
milou/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
oxygen-sounds/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-dataengines-addons/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-desktop-data/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-desktop/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-discover-common/unknown 5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-discover/unknown 5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-integration/unknown 5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-nm/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-pa/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-runners-addons/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-wallpapers-addons/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-widgets-addons/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-workspace-data/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
plasma-workspace/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
polkit-kde-agent-1/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
powerdevil-data/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 all [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
powerdevil/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
qml-module-qtwebengine/unstable 5.14.2+dfsg1-4 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.14.2+dfsg1-3]
qt5-style-kvantum-themes/mx,mx 0.16.0+repack-0.1~mx19+1 all [upgradable from: 0.15.3+repack-0.1~mx19+1]
qt5-style-kvantum/mx 0.16.0+repack-0.1~mx19+1 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.14.1+repack-1]
sddm-theme-breeze/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
sddm-theme-debian-breeze/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np2 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
systemsettings/unknown 4:5.19.4-1~np1 amd64 [upgradable from: 4:5.19.3-1~np1]
xfce4-timer-plugin/unstable 1.7.1-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 1.7.0-1]
xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/unstable 2.4.6-1 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.4.5-1]
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:54 am
by MAYBL8
I have updated and rebooted .
No icon issues here.
Everything looks fine.
Still having my restart issue but I will look into that.

@Norbert,
I want to thank you for the work you are doing to get us able to get the latest KDE working.
I hope you can keep up the good work.
Looking forward to 5.20 in the near future.
Thanks
Dan

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:57 am
by norbert
Good to hear that it worked out for you. 5.20 is still a bit away, and will arrive around Japanese summer holidays, so don't expect immediate availability ;-) I need to come back from holiday before looking at it.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:09 am
by SwampRabbit
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:50 am Haaaaa, convincing me to MXLinux, hmmm I guess if I would move I first would try Devuan, but let us see how it goes.

Anyway, I'm more than open to help prepare packages specifically for MXLinux if necessary for to library differences.
Welcome Norbert, I am sure these two brave guys are happy to see you even pop in here.
They have taken on quite a little adventure that's for sure.

Don't hesitate to stick around, we really do have a great community here on both sides of the fence.

Please check out MX in a VM or two, especially our KDE beta in the works, don't let that its an older KDE scare you off. ;)
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:57 am That is unfortunately practically impossible due to Qt dependencies. One would need to recompile - and fix - all packages that use Qt in stable. And that, sorry, is far out of my time budget ;-)
That right there is the issue, there have been a few stabs at doing it. The last time I even looked at it I hit what seemed like a circular dependency issue... so I moved on to more important things. Compile time for all of it doesn't bother me, but I'm not fooling around with the other things especially when I'm not a Qt or KDE expert or even close.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:50 pm
by andyprough
My MX19.2 installation updated to KDE 5.19.4 without the graphics problems I ran into on antiX Sid. MX is now showing two broken packages: ksnip (an MX package) and its dependency libkimageannotator0 (a Sid package). Otherwise the desktop is working well in limited testing.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:08 pm
by MAYBL8
Andy,
I didn't have ksnip on my system.
This is what I got trying to install it:

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$ sudo apt-get install ksnip
[sudo] password for dcihon: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libkcolorpicker libkcolorpicker-dev libkcolorpicker0 libkimageannotator libkimageannotator-common libkimageannotator-dev
  libkimageannotator0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ksnip libkcolorpicker libkcolorpicker-dev libkcolorpicker0 libkimageannotator libkimageannotator-common libkimageannotator-dev
  libkimageannotator0
0 upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 769 kB of archives.
After this operation, 3,911 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 libkcolorpicker amd64 0.1.4-1mx19+1 [16.8 kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 libkcolorpicker0 amd64 0.1.4-1 [16.9 kB]
Get:3 https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 libkcolorpicker-dev amd64 0.1.4-1mx19+1 [4,968 B]
Get:4 https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 libkimageannotator amd64 0.3.1-1mx19+1 [214 kB]
Get:5 https://mirror.genesisadaptive.com/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 ksnip amd64 1.7.1-1mx19+1 [284 kB]
Get:6 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 libkimageannotator-common all 0.3.1-5 [9,940 B]
Get:7 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 libkimageannotator0 amd64 0.3.1-5 [214 kB]
Get:8 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 libkimageannotator-dev amd64 0.3.1-5 [8,648 B]
Fetched 769 kB in 1s (1,431 kB/s)               
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
Selecting previously unselected package libkcolorpicker.
(Reading database ... 380089 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../0-libkcolorpicker_0.1.4-1mx19+1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libkcolorpicker (0.1.4-1mx19+1) ...
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Unpacking libkcolorpicker0:amd64 (0.1.4-1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/3-libkcolorpicker0_0.1.4-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkColorPicker.so.0.1.4', which is also in package libkcolorpicker 0.1.4-1mx19+1
Selecting previously unselected package libkimageannotator-common.
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Selecting previously unselected package libkimageannotator0:amd64.
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Unpacking libkimageannotator0:amd64 (0.3.1-5) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/5-libkimageannotator0_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkImageAnnotator.so.0.3.1', which is also in package libkimageannotator 0.3.1-1mx19+1
dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Selecting previously unselected package libkimageannotator-dev:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../6-libkimageannotator-dev_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libkimageannotator-dev:amd64 (0.3.1-5) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/6-libkimageannotator-dev_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkImageAnnotator.so', which is also in package libkimageannotator 0.3.1-1mx19+1
Selecting previously unselected package ksnip.
Preparing to unpack .../7-ksnip_1.7.1-1mx19+1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking ksnip (1.7.1-1mx19+1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/3-libkcolorpicker0_0.1.4-1_amd64.deb
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/5-libkimageannotator0_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/6-libkimageannotator-dev_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:14 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:08 pm Andy,
I didn't have ksnip on my system.
This is what I got trying to install it:
Yup, same errors as me, I would assume it's a problem on the Sid side of things unless Norbert pops in and determines otherwise. It's Sid's libkimageannotator0 that is causing dpkg to throw up the "overwrite" error.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:09 pm
by norbert
Hi
SwampRabbit wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:09 am Don't hesitate to stick around, we really do have a great community here on both sides of the fence.

Please check out MX in a VM or two, especially our KDE beta in the works, don't let that its an older KDE scare you off. ;)
Will do for sure, both! KDE beta in the works - how can I test this?
SwampRabbit wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:09 am That right there is the issue, there have been a few stabs at doing it. The last time I even looked at it I hit what seemed like a circular dependency issue... so I moved on to more important things. Compile time for all of it doesn't bother me, but I'm not fooling around with the other things especially when I'm not a Qt or KDE expert or even close.
A quick look at the rdepends of libqtcore5a in sid gives 2354 packages ... of course, many are in the KDE family, but there are still loads and loads that need to be recompiled and possibly fixed. I don't think this is a good idea to do for a stable release.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:18 pm
by norbert
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:08 pm

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$ sudo apt-get install ksnip
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/5-libkimageannotator0_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkImageAnnotator.so.0.3.1', which is also in package libkimageannotator 0.3.1-1mx19+1
Well, that seems to be messed up in various reasons: first, there seems to be a package libkimageannotator in mxlinux while Debian has libkimageannotator0 (which btw is generally the better idea when dealing with ABI changes). I am not sure whether the former (without the 0) ever was in Debian.

Now how to solve this - it is not trivial: If there are packages in mxlinux that depend on libkimageannotator (without the 0), then there are troubles ahead. One would need to build a new package libkimageannotator0 that replaces/breaks with the non-0 version, as well as provides the non-0 version to satisfy the dependencies. Not sure this is a good idea either.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:38 pm
by SwampRabbit
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:09 pm Will do for sure, both! KDE beta in the works - how can I test this?
viewtopic.php?f=94&t=59297

😉

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:04 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:18 pm
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:08 pm

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$ sudo apt-get install ksnip
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-nruVtr/5-libkimageannotator0_0.3.1-5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkImageAnnotator.so.0.3.1', which is also in package libkimageannotator 0.3.1-1mx19+1
Well, that seems to be messed up in various reasons: first, there seems to be a package libkimageannotator in mxlinux while Debian has libkimageannotator0 (which btw is generally the better idea when dealing with ABI changes). I am not sure whether the former (without the 0) ever was in Debian.

Now how to solve this - it is not trivial: If there are packages in mxlinux that depend on libkimageannotator (without the 0), then there are troubles ahead. One would need to build a new package libkimageannotator0 that replaces/breaks with the non-0 version, as well as provides the non-0 version to satisfy the dependencies. Not sure this is a good idea either.
On my MX19.2 install, I disabled the Sid and the KDE OBS repos and told Synaptic to 'fix broken packages', and it fixed ksnip by upgrading libkimageannotator and libkimageannotator-dev (MX versions) and by removing libkimageannotator0 (Debian version):

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Start-Date: 2020-07-30  23:36:50
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic
Requested-By: andy (1000)
Upgrade: libkimageannotator-dev:amd64 (0.2.1-1mx19+1, 0.3.1-1mx19+1), libkimageannotator:amd64 (0.2.1-1mx19+1, 0.3.1-1mx19+1)
Remove: libkimageannotator0:amd64 (0.3.1-5)
End-Date: 2020-07-30  23:36:52
Now apt is advising to autoremove libkimageannotator-common (Debian version):

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$ sudo apt autoremove
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libcrypt-dev libebml4v5 libenchant-2-2 libgsoap-2.8.91
  libkimageannotator-common libmatroska6v5 libprotobuf-lite22 libre2-7
  libvncserver1 libwpe-1.0-1 libwpebackend-fdo-1.0-1 xsel
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 12 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:04 am
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:04 amNow apt is advising to autoremove libkimageannotator-common
That’s because the system doesn’t know there is something that depends on it probably.

You can take a look and see if if it’s depends or just a recommends for ksnip.

I’d just ignore any auto remove items for the time being unless they get out of hand, in that case you should manually remove some instead.

Random question. You haven’t had issues booting or issues with GRUB have you? What version are you on?

Edit: you might want to consider pinning some items you run across like knsip

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:25 am
by Stevo
We need to modify our kimageannotator build to be the same as Debian's, and have it conflict with the packages we did before Debian. That's why we don't have the "0" at the end or the -common package.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:16 am
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:04 am
andyprough wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:04 amNow apt is advising to autoremove libkimageannotator-common
That’s because the system doesn’t know there is something that depends on it probably.

You can take a look and see if if it’s depends or just a recommends for ksnip.
libkimageannotator-common doesn't come up as either a dependency or a recommended package for ksnip.
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:04 amRandom question. You haven’t had issues booting or issues with GRUB have you? What version are you on?

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grub-efi-amd64-bin/mx,now 2.04-3mx19+3 amd64 [installed,automatic]
No issues booting. This system is MX19.2 with everything kept on the Debian Buster and MX repos, except Norbert's KDE packages are pulling their dependencies from Debian Sid. I have to manually update the KDE packages and then disable Sid in order to keep the rest of the system running on packages from Buster and MX. Neither this system nor the antiX Sid system with Norbert's KDE packages has had any trouble booting for me. This MX19.2 system has run remarkably well for about 3 months now, despite mixing it with the KDE+Sid packages.
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:04 amEdit: you might want to consider pinning some items you run across like knsip
Yes, but I've been actually trying to let things break to give feedback to you and some of the other devs. So far all I've found on MX is this little ksnip thing and that virtualbox will only install from the Sid repo.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:41 am
by norbert
Stevo wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:25 am We need to modify our kimageannotator build to be the same as Debian's, and have it conflict with the packages we did before Debian. That's why we don't have the "0" at the end or the -common package.
Yes yes yes!!! Please, for the sake of compatibility and consistency!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:44 am
by norbert
BTW, of topic, pushed by all your positive input I tried to install MXLinux KDE beta2 iso today in a VM (kvm), but selecting a Japanese kbd and removing the US one ended in a hanged system, no response for hours. Will retry ....

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:11 am
by Jerry3904
This is not only off topic, but will never be seen by the Devs working on that Beta 2. Please post this in the feedback thread:

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=59297

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:17 am
by norbert
I know, but before I cannot reproduce the issue I will not post and bother them there ;-)
And before that there is weekend with sawanobori (inverse canyoning) and kid's time :-D

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:16 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:17 am I know, but before I cannot reproduce the issue I will not post and bother them there ;-)
And before that there is weekend with sawanobori (inverse canyoning) and kid's time :-D
Are you mountain climbing up the inside of a waterfall Norbert?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:18 pm
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:16 am No issues booting. This system is MX19.2 with everything kept on the Debian Buster and MX repos, except Norbert's KDE packages are pulling their dependencies from Debian Sid. I have to manually update the KDE packages and then disable Sid in order to keep the rest of the system running on packages from Buster and MX. Neither this system nor the antiX Sid system with Norbert's KDE packages has had any trouble booting for me.
Gotcha, I couldn't remember exactly if and what you pulled from Sid. Figured I'd ask if you were running the GRUB from Sid by chance. No worries, thanks.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:22 pm
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:18 pmGotcha, I couldn't remember exactly if and what you pulled from Sid. Figured I'd ask if you were running the GRUB from Sid by chance. No worries, thanks.
Dan is running everything from Sid, and I've got my antiX Sid KDE 5.19.4 setup. antiX is running well, no boot problems, but best to ask Dan about his MX experience with Sid.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:07 pm
by MAYBL8
No real issues from sid here.
I do have an error message that shows up from grub but it doesn't stop it from booting.
I'll try to catch it and post it here.

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$ grub-install --version
grub-install (GRUB) 2.04-9

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 2:16 pm
by SwampRabbit
thanks Dan, good to know

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 9:44 pm
by andyprough
Norbert has posted an update: https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/08/ ... 020-08-13/

So there's probably some packages for us to upgrade to now.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:14 pm
by nathan2423
Andy --

I have a specific goal I want to accomplish by getting an MX installation functioning with the latest KDE:

I use my computers in a business environment where I am constantly working with Microsoft Word and excel documents. My goal has been for years to get a file manager that has a preview pane comparable to what is available in windows. Dolphin allows that but I gather that only in the latest versions of KDE does the dolphin information panel actually display previews of excel and word documents. The PDF preview in the info panel has worked for a while, but I could never get word and excel files to show previews. Apparently even now Calligra must be installed alongside Dolphin in order for all the previews to work, but I have experimented with Manajaro and Kubuntu and I know that it can be made to work in the latest versions. Calligra may be a pale shadow of other competitors, but if it brings with it Word and Excel previews then I'll gladly keep it installed.

I am coming to the realization that flatpaks and appimages will in the future provide upgrade paths forward on major application programs, but I really want Dolphin running to full capacity with all available previews, and perhaps integration with Dropbox, etc. For that I need a base operating system that has the latest updates to KDE working properly, because the Flatpak version of Dolphin has few (if any) working previews. I haven't asked or tested the latest standard MX19.2KDE, but I am thinking that these previews I am talking about are probably not working in new KDE MX, given the older version of KDE that they are working with. I am willing and experienced enough to tweak things and am willing to treat your MXmodified on an "as is" basis with knowledge that it's extremely experimental

So I have two questions:

1 - Do you have Microsoft Word and Excel documents working in your latest version of your MX Modified installation?

2 - If so, do you have the snapshot system working, and do you have a snapshot available anywhere to download that I could test out?

Thanks very much!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:15 pm
by norbert
andyprough wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:16 am Are you mountain climbing up the inside of a waterfall Norbert?
Not **inside** but climbing up mountain streams, yes. The best thing one can do in the heat of the summer!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:53 am
by andyprough
nathan2423 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:14 pm Andy --

I have a specific goal I want to accomplish by getting an MX installation functioning with the latest KDE:

I use my computers in a business environment where I am constantly working with Microsoft Word and excel documents. My goal has been for years to get a file manager that has a preview pane comparable to what is available in windows. Dolphin allows that but I gather that only in the latest versions of KDE does the dolphin information panel actually display previews of excel and word documents. The PDF preview in the info panel has worked for a while, but I could never get word and excel files to show previews. Apparently even now Calligra must be installed alongside Dolphin in order for all the previews to work, but I have experimented with Manajaro and Kubuntu and I know that it can be made to work in the latest versions. Calligra may be a pale shadow of other competitors, but if it brings with it Word and Excel previews then I'll gladly keep it installed.

I am coming to the realization that flatpaks and appimages will in the future provide upgrade paths forward on major application programs, but I really want Dolphin running to full capacity with all available previews, and perhaps integration with Dropbox, etc. For that I need a base operating system that has the latest updates to KDE working properly, because the Flatpak version of Dolphin has few (if any) working previews. I haven't asked or tested the latest standard MX19.2KDE, but I am thinking that these previews I am talking about are probably not working in new KDE MX, given the older version of KDE that they are working with. I am willing and experienced enough to tweak things and am willing to treat your MXmodified on an "as is" basis with knowledge that it's extremely experimental

So I have two questions:

1 - Do you have Microsoft Word and Excel documents working in your latest version of your MX Modified installation?

2 - If so, do you have the snapshot system working, and do you have a snapshot available anywhere to download that I could test out?

Thanks very much!
Hi Nathan, no I'm not going to start sharing snapshots, my system is being held together with duct tape and glue, I'm afraid I would be handing you something you couldn't ever update or add packages to. Also, Dan and I found out that our systems were entirely incompatible - even if I made him a snapshot it wouldn't even boot on his machine. If you want to try it out though, just follow along with the instructions we've left here and continue to leave, and see where it gets you. It's quite fun if you have the time.

As far as the Dolphin previews for Word documents are concerned, I am not that impressed - they are really just a big icon (see screenshot). I could be doing something wrong, as this is not a topic I'm very much aware of, but if this is the "preview", it doesn't give me any useful visual info. I do have calligra installed. Maybe there are other packages or settings I need to work with to get previews actually showing something useful?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:01 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:15 pm
andyprough wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:16 am Are you mountain climbing up the inside of a waterfall Norbert?
Not **inside** but climbing up mountain streams, yes. The best thing one can do in the heat of the summer!
Nice! That would be very welcome relief here in Texas, except our mountains are desert mountains. I'll bet we could do this in New Mexico though.

And I see you've been updating packages and one repo.

Dan, if you're reading this, there's a change to Norbert's "apps" repo: https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/08/ ... or-debian/

The repo is now going to be changed from "apps" to "apps2008":

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/ ./
And the KDE 20.08 apps are now available! I've been upgrading tonight.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:36 am
by norbert
Yes, I have decided to switch to versioned repositories also for the apps, since every new major update requires quite some time to fix, adjust, and package.

I know it is a bit of a nuisance for the users, but it is more on the safe side for me ;-)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:37 am
by nathan2423
Andy no problem as to snapshots I understand. You are correct that you must be missing something on your installation as to the screenshot with the preview. On the latest KDEs I have seen (Manjaro for instance) both word documents and excel spreadsheets show as full and complete previews of the first page of the document, just like they do in the default File Explorer in Windows and many third party file managers in the windows world.

In my limited experience in order to get that to work you first have to have Calligra installed and then you get more options to check in Dolphin's preview files option box , including more Microsoft office file types.

In my experience the ability to scroll through a list of office document files and see a large readable preview on the right is a highly valuable feature, but in the Linux world only Dolphin seems interested in providing it, and only in the most recent versions.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:59 am
by MAYBL8
Did the update with the 2008 this morning. Got this message:

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Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-jpWNZW/009-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:06 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:59 am Did the update with the 2008 this morning. Got this message:

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Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-jpWNZW/009-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Yes I ran into the same error with kdepim-runtime

That seems to be part of the kmail back end. I uninstalled kmail and kdepim-runtime and maybe a couple of other kdepim packages, since I don't use kmail. I got it to the point where apt was happy again.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:03 pm
by MAYBL8
I think I'm fixed:

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$ sudo apt --fix-broken install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  gparted-common libpoppler82
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  kdepim-runtime
The following packages will be upgraded:
  kdepim-runtime
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
171 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/2,764 kB of archives.
After this operation, 26.6 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
Reading changelogs... Done
Setting up nvidia-legacy-check (450.57-3) ...
(Reading database ... 378566 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking kdepim-runtime (4:20.08.0-1~np1) over (4:20.04.3-1~np1) ...
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Setting up nvidia-detect (450.57-3) ...
Setting up reiserfsprogs (1:3.6.27-4) ...
update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
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insserv: Script bootlogd has overlapping Default-Start and Default-Stop runlevels (S) and (S). This should be fixed.
Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/systemd-resolved.service.wants/resolvconf-pull-resolved.service → /lib/systemd/system/resolvconf-pull-resolved.service.
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:15 pm
by andyprough
I tried that a few times last night. Maybe someone fixed the package today. It's nice that most of these problems are short lived.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:50 pm
by norbert
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:59 am Did the update with the 2008 this morning. Got this message:

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Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-jpWNZW/009-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Please, in such a case, look up in the terminal log for any previous errors. Normally this is a file conflict or similar. The last lines aren't helpful, there need to be some display of what went wrong before.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:09 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:50 pm
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:59 am Did the update with the 2008 this morning. Got this message:

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Errors were encountered while processing:
 /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-jpWNZW/009-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Please, in such a case, look up in the terminal log for any previous errors. Normally this is a file conflict or similar. The last lines aren't helpful, there need to be some display of what went wrong before.
Here's the error messages I had during installation in my /var/log/apt/term.log Norbert:

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Preparing to unpack .../08-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking kdepim-runtime (4:20.08.0-1~np1) over (4:20.04.3-1~np1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-LVek3N/08-kdepim-runtime_4%3a20.08.0-1~np1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kservices5/kcmldap.desktop', which is also in package libkf5libkdepim-data 4:20.04.3-1~np1
dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
And my ending error was similar to Dan's:

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Errors were encountered while processing:
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Let me know if you want to see the entire term.log, or see that entire failed installation.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:21 pm
by norbert
Thanks, I updated the package to include the necessary replace/breaks. Thanks for the report

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:31 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:21 pm Thanks, I updated the package to include the necessary replace/breaks. Thanks for the report
OK great. We can just report our term.log error messages here for you as we go forward, I would imagine. If that's convenient for you.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:44 pm
by norbert
Well, mailing me makes it easier for me, but here is also fine.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:38 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:44 pm Well, mailing me makes it easier for me, but here is also fine.
OK. Norbert at preining dot info, as on your blog?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:09 pm
by norbert
Yup, that is fine! Thanks

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:49 am
by nathan2423
andyprough wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:53 am
nathan2423 wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:14 pm Thanks very much!
Hi Nathan, ... As far as the Dolphin previews for Word documents are concerned, I am not that impressed - they are really just a big icon (see screenshot). I could be doing something wrong, as this is not a topic I'm very much aware of, but if this is the "preview", it doesn't give me any useful visual info. I do have calligra installed. Maybe there are other packages or settings I need to work with to get previews actually showing something useful?
Andy:

I know this is peripheral to the thrust of your thread but as to the Dolphin previews of Word and excel documents I wanted to give you an example of how this looks in the latest KDE versions (in this case, opensuse tumbleweed). It is highly useful in an office environment where people are working with lots of documents and spreadsheets. In Tumbleweed, to get this working I installed Calligra, and at that point the Configure Dolphin / Previews selection panel gave me almost twice as many preview options as before, including all sorts of office documents not there previously. I would really like to get this kind of functionality working in a version of MXLinux but so far all my efforts have failed. In my existing MX versions of KDE, after installing Calligra the preview options appear in the Dolphin Configuration panel, but the preview of these file types just does not work and gives only the big icon you mention. I am thinking this must have been a defect in previous versions of KDE that is now corrected, but I haven't been able to figure it out.

I think I have attached a screenshot here, but I am not good with attachments on this forum so not sure if it will work.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.3 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:14 pm
by andyprough
nathan2423 wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:49 amAndy:

I know this is peripheral to the thrust of your thread but as to the Dolphin previews of Word and excel documents I wanted to give you an example of how this looks in the latest KDE versions (in this case, opensuse tumbleweed). It is highly useful in an office environment where people are working with lots of documents and spreadsheets. In Tumbleweed, to get this working I installed Calligra, and at that point the Configure Dolphin / Previews selection panel gave me almost twice as many preview options as before, including all sorts of office documents not there previously. I would really like to get this kind of functionality working in a version of MXLinux but so far all my efforts have failed. In my existing MX versions of KDE, after installing Calligra the preview options appear in the Dolphin Configuration panel, but the preview of these file types just does not work and gives only the big icon you mention. I am thinking this must have been a defect in previous versions of KDE that is now corrected, but I haven't been able to figure it out.

I think I have attached a screenshot here, but I am not good with attachments on this forum so not sure if it will work.
Hi Nathan, I've attached a screenshot showing my config options for preview - I don't see anything that would be helpful in this regard. Probably the folks at openSUSE have some special magic they are using. I used openSUSE for many years because their KDE was so superior to anyone else's, and they contribute a big percentage of the code to the KDE project. Might be worth sticking with openSUSE on the machines where you need advanced KDE functions.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 am
by MAYBL8
Looks like 5.19.5 hit today

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:02 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 am Looks like 5.19.5 hit today
No new blog post from Norbert. It's in his repos?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:01 pm
by MAYBL8
When I updated it came through the update.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:06 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:01 pm When I updated it came through the update.
You still running it as your main system? How's it running?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:45 pm
by MAYBL8
I've been running great as far as KDE goes. I have an occasional error when trying to install a KDE Theme .
Some MX Tools don't work like the updater so I use discover and it works just fine.
If there is anything you would like me try let me know.
My laptop has an issue with sound and bluetooth but I have had that issue ever since I got it. Has nothing to do with KDE or what distro I am using or what repo I use. Trying all different combinations of firmware and kernels. Just haven't found the right ones yet.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:16 pm
by norbert
andyprough wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:02 am
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 am Looks like 5.19.5 hit today
No new blog post from Norbert. It's in his repos?
Yes, I updated to 5.19.5 yesterday, but the blog post needs to be written ;-) Real life!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:04 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 5:16 pmYes, I updated to 5.19.5 yesterday, but the blog post needs to be written ;-) Real life!
Just finished my upgrade, this was the smoothest one ever, absolute perfection. Also, 4 months into this experiment and all my MX tools are still working, which was my big concern.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:11 am
by norbert
andyprough wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:04 am Just finished my upgrade, this was the smoothest one ever, absolute perfection.
Well, considering it was a really really minor update from 5.19.4, some translation and small fixes, it is not surprising that nothing big happens.

The next stumbling block is 5.20 which will bring considerable changes from what I read.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:44 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:11 amWell, considering it was a really really minor update from 5.19.4, some translation and small fixes, it is not surprising that nothing big happens.
Yes, maybe not too surprising going from 5.19.4 to 5.19.5. But when I think about what I'm doing - upgrading incrementally from 5.18.5 to 5.19.5 using Debian Sid packages for any dependencies KDE needs, but otherwise maintaining a Debian Buster base plus all the MX packages which rely on Buster. I'm surprised it ever worked at all, and here it is 4 months later and 4 or 5 KDE upgrades later and still running strong.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:53 am
by norbert
Indeed indeed!!!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:02 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:53 am Indeed indeed!!!
Seems like at some point us MX'ers need to say, "with enough apt pinning wizardry, we could consistently run the latest KDE on plain old MX without having to rebuild all the KDE packages".

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:20 am
by norbert
The problem is with libQt, not with the KDE/Plasma packages. Updating to Qt 5.14 and then running KDE/Plasma should be fine, but all other packages that depend/use Qt 5.12 will be (mostly?) broken.

Honestly said - but I am not a Qt expert - I was always surprised why *EVERY* package needs to be recompiled when a new version of Qt came out. All - and I mean practically ALL - libraries I know are different, that is that they are mostly backward compatible. So maybe there are quite some packages in Debian/buster compiled against libQt 5.12 that would actually run with libQt 5.14, but this is wild guess, I have no deeper insights into the Qt packaging.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:44 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:20 am The problem is with libQt, not with the KDE/Plasma packages. Updating to Qt 5.14 and then running KDE/Plasma should be fine, but all other packages that depend/use Qt 5.12 will be (mostly?) broken.

Honestly said - but I am not a Qt expert - I was always surprised why *EVERY* package needs to be recompiled when a new version of Qt came out. All - and I mean practically ALL - libraries I know are different, that is that they are mostly backward compatible. So maybe there are quite some packages in Debian/buster compiled against libQt 5.12 that would actually run with libQt 5.14, but this is wild guess, I have no deeper insights into the Qt packaging.
This is interesting. So I should find which of our MX packages are dependent on libQt 5.12 and look at them specifically in a libQt 5.14 environment. I know Dan is running his installation differently - he upgraded the entire system to the Debian Sid repos and then added your KDE repos and packages, while keeping the regular MX repo enabled. He said that his MX tools still seem to be working. We should look into his system and see if we can find some broken MX packages. I can't find any broken MX tools on my system.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:03 am
by MAYBL8
My system as of the latest updates:
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.19.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.74.0
Qt Version: 5.14.2
Kernel Version: 5.7.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:50 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:03 am My system as of the latest updates:
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.19.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.74.0
Qt Version: 5.14.2
Kernel Version: 5.7.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
Did you get more updates today? I haven't checked lately.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:35 am
by MAYBL8
@Norbert
Should we be seeing 5.20 from you soon?
Thanks
Dan

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:02 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Oct 01, 2020 10:35 am @Norbert
Should we be seeing 5.20 from you soon?
Thanks
Dan
Your timing is perfect Dan. He just posted a blog article about it this morning: https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/10/ ... to-debian/

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:04 pm
by norbert
It is Qt 5.15 that holds me back ;-)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:56 pm
by andyprough
Norbert has a new blog post up. The exciting news is that KDE 5.19.4 should be getting accepted directly into Debian unstable soon, as the Debian KDE devs are working with Norbert now. Also, Norbert has been updating a bunch of packages recently: https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/10/ ... 020-10-12/

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:41 pm
by MAYBL8
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.19.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0
Qt Version: 5.14.2
Kernel Version: 5.8.0-2-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:52 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:41 pm Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.19.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0
Qt Version: 5.14.2
Kernel Version: 5.8.0-2-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
Still using it for your daily driver Dan?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:05 pm
by MAYBL8
I am
I haven't had any big issues so far.
I also have a partition with base MX that I am using for when I am doing the packaging which I have been away from in a while.
I hope to get back to helping out soon.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:28 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:05 pm I am
I haven't had any big issues so far.
I also have a partition with base MX that I am using for when I am doing the packaging which I have been away from in a while.
I hope to get back to helping out soon.
Did you have any trouble with the "ksnip" package with this latest update Dan? I couldn't update libkcolorpicker, which forced me to remove ksnip.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:33 pm
by norbert
Interesting, at least here on Debian unstable I have no problems with ksnip, it is running always on my desktop. Which version of Qt and ksnip?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:04 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:33 pm Interesting, at least here on Debian unstable I have no problems with ksnip, it is running always on my desktop. Which version of Qt and ksnip?
ksnip was trying to upgrade from version 1.7.1-1mx19+1 to 1.7.3-3. I force installed version 1.7.1-1mx19+1 again after the upgrade error.
Qt is version 5.14.2-3

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:08 am
by MAYBL8
I don't have it installed.
Which one would you like me to install?
The one from popular applications or from Debian?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:28 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:08 am I don't have it installed.
Which one would you like me to install?
The one from popular applications or from Debian?
Try to install the latest one from Norbert's repo if you can. 'apt policy ksnip' should show that Norbert's is the top installation candidate.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:39 am
by norbert
andyprough wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:28 am Try to install the latest one from Norbert's repo if you can. 'apt policy ksnip' should show that Norbert's is the top installation candidate.
Huuh? I don't ship ksnip in my repos .... at least here I see

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$ apt-cache policy ksnip
ksnip:
  Installed: 1.7.3-3
  Candidate: 1.7.3-3
  Version table:
 *** 1.7.3-3 500
        500 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:42 am
by MAYBL8

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$ apt policy ksnip
ksnip:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.7.3-3
  Version table:
     1.7.3-3 500
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
     1.7.1-1mx19+1 500
        500 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 Packages

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:53 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:42 am

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$ apt policy ksnip
ksnip:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.7.3-3
  Version table:
     1.7.3-3 500
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
     1.7.1-1mx19+1 500
        500 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 Packages
Try installing 1.7.3-3, see what happens. That's the one I had a problem with.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:04 pm
by MAYBL8

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$ sudo apt --fix-broken install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libkdsoap-bin
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libkcolorpicker0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libkcolorpicker0
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
41 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/16.9 kB of archives.
After this operation, 77.8 kB of additional disk space will be used.

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Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
(Reading database ... 383745 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libkcolorpicker0_0.1.4-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libkcolorpicker0:amd64 (0.1.4-1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libkcolorpicker0_0.1.4-1_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkColorPicker.so.0.1.4', which is also in package libkcolorpicker 0.1.4-1mx19+1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libkcolorpicker0_0.1.4-1_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:43 pm
by MAYBL8
The problem is here:

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$ sudo apt-get install ksnip
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libkcolorpicker0 libkimageannotator0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ksnip libkcolorpicker0 libkimageannotator0
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 485 kB/502 kB of archives.
After this operation, 2,554 kB of additional disk space will be used.
It wants to install 2 different libkcolorpicker0 packages.

I don't know how to fix that problem except maybe remove sid repository and I don't want to do that.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:51 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:43 pm The problem is here:

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$ sudo apt-get install ksnip
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libkcolorpicker0 libkimageannotator0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ksnip libkcolorpicker0 libkimageannotator0
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 485 kB/502 kB of archives.
After this operation, 2,554 kB of additional disk space will be used.
It wants to install 2 different libkcolorpicker0 packages.

I don't know how to fix that problem except maybe remove sid repository and I don't want to do that.
OK, same problem. Here's what Norbert sent me last night about fixing the problem:
Ahh, library name differences:
MX: libkcolorpicker
Debian: libkcolorpicker0

Probably you can get rid of libkcolorpicker (dpkg --purge) and then
installation should work. This might remove some packages depending on
libkcolorpicker.
Before he sent that email, I was able to fix it on my machine by starting a new instance of synaptic and running a "complete removal" on the 'libkcolorpicker' package.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:00 pm
by MAYBL8
OK got it installed.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 6:37 pm
by norbert
This is the same item as with one of the kf5 libraries back then, the same actual file is shipped in two different packages. If there are reverse dependencies onto the MX version (libkcolorpicker), removing it would remove the other packages, too. If there aren't, it can be removed without harm.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:56 am
by MAYBL8
Trying to add a global theme today I am getting the following error:

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Download of "Adapta KDE" failed, error: Error transferring https://dllb2.pling.com/api/files/download/j/eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpZCI6IjE1MDU3MTA4MTAiLCJvIjoiMSIsInMiOiIyNWE2MGQ0YzlhNjQ4NmJkY2VmODNmNzJkODQ3ZmQyMDU4NTc4MzFjOGY1NzRkMjlmYWM2ZmM5YzRiMDMwYjAzM2U2OGViZTRjY2Y1NzU0ODczNmQ2NTg4NWE4ZjRjYjY0OWExNTgzZGU2MTY4ODk5NmRlNzkzNzc4YzIxMzI0MiIsInQiOjE2MDI5NTAxMzEsInN0ZnAiOm51bGwsInN0aXAiOiI3MS44MS43NC4yMDIifQ.KYtbJyx4E_bOOIRUDwqqRIMrnLiiD3yUFHaluzK7NXE/com.github.varlesh.adapta.tar.gz - server replied: Bad Gateway

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:53 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:56 am Trying to add a global theme today I am getting the following error:

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Download of "Adapta KDE" failed, error: Error transferring https://dllb2.pling.com/api/files/download/j/eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpZCI6IjE1MDU3MTA4MTAiLCJvIjoiMSIsInMiOiIyNWE2MGQ0YzlhNjQ4NmJkY2VmODNmNzJkODQ3ZmQyMDU4NTc4MzFjOGY1NzRkMjlmYWM2ZmM5YzRiMDMwYjAzM2U2OGViZTRjY2Y1NzU0ODczNmQ2NTg4NWE4ZjRjYjY0OWExNTgzZGU2MTY4ODk5NmRlNzkzNzc4YzIxMzI0MiIsInQiOjE2MDI5NTAxMzEsInN0ZnAiOm51bGwsInN0aXAiOiI3MS44MS43NC4yMDIifQ.KYtbJyx4E_bOOIRUDwqqRIMrnLiiD3yUFHaluzK7NXE/com.github.varlesh.adapta.tar.gz - server replied: Bad Gateway
Hi Dan, looks like a problem with the adapta kde github server? Maybe try again a little later? The github page is archived and the last release was in 2018, maybe it's not being actively developed.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 12:48 am
by asqwerth
The Adapta dev changed the look of Adapta theme but kept the same name and repo/github. This led to a huge negative response and lots of complaints when people suddenly saw their Adapta theme change overnight after a seemingly innocuous update.

Upset by those responses, he reverted the changes to Adapta, then archived it. He then released his "new Adapta" as Plata theme. Plata is now Solus's default theme, I believe.

The fallout extended to the Papirus icon devs, because they had been making a cyan folder variant of the Papirus icons to suit old Adapta colours, and also maintaining a KDE theme that followed the original Adapta look. After this incident Papirus devs decided they would no longer name or base any icon or theme variant on a specific theme of another creator, since the creator could make drastic changes to their own theme without notice.

Such drama in the world of theming.

Thus, if people are still using old Adapta gtk themes in Buster or distros with newer versions of gtk3, that theme might eventually not work right or look wonky.

Similarly, Adapta KDE might one day not work right. Maybe right now the issue for MAYBL8 is simply the github access [to the Papirus dev's Adapta KDE theme], but that's something to consider. I believe there are Kvantum themes that emulate the look of Adapta.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:29 am
by MAYBL8
@asqwerth
Thanks for the informative explanation. It was just a temporary situation.
Question I have is how did you find out all that info. I would like to find out these kinds of things so I wouldn't have to ask these questions.
Thanks
Dan

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:10 am
by asqwerth
MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:29 am @asqwerth
Thanks for the informative explanation. It was just a temporary situation.
Question I have is how did you find out all that info. I would like to find out these kinds of things so I wouldn't have to ask these questions.
Thanks
Dan
The Adapta overnight change happened to me in Manjaro, because as a rolling distro, these changes get packaged immediately and implemented upon your next update. There was a rather busy forum thread on the issue, with lots of unhappiness, and people posting with updates on what was happening - e.g. when the dev reverted the changes but then stopped all development on it, and then what the Papirus devs did.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:11 pm
by MAYBL8
@Norbert
Do you have this yet:
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pla ... eview.html

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:14 am
by norbert
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:11 pm @Norbert
Do you have this yet:
https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pla ... eview.html
Hi @MAYBL8

I have packages ready, but they need Qt 5.15 which is not available in Debian unstable and need a full transition.

If you want to try them out, get them at

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma520/Debian_Unstable/ ./
I have a VM with Plasma 5.20(.1) running, but cannot install it on my main desktop due to too many Qt dependencies that would be removed.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:30 am
by MAYBL8
I already have that repo:

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./ 
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./ 
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma519/Debian_Unstable/ ./ 
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/ ./ 
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.19.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0
Qt Version: 5.14.2
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:36 am
by norbert
SOrry how stupid a C&P error from me, of course it should be

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma520/Debian_Unstable/ ./
unsurprisingly ;-) Fixed the original post, too. Thanks!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:24 am
by MAYBL8
Looks like this would break my system:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  apt-config-icons-hidpi apt-config-icons-large apt-config-icons-large-hidpi ksysguard-data libibus-1.0-5
  libkf5emoticons-bin libkf5emoticons-data libkf5emoticons5 libkf5sysguard-bin libkf5unitconversion-data
  libkf5unitconversion5 libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libksignalplotter9 libmarkdown2 libscim8v5 libxcb-record0
  oxygen-sounds plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover-common qml-module-qtwebengine qml-module-qtwebkit
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kde-plasma-desktop kde-standard ksysguard plasma-dataengines-addons plasma-desktop plasma-discover
  plasma-runners-addons plasma-widgets-addons
The following packages have been kept back:
  breeze-cursor-theme kde-cli-tools-data kwin-data libkf5sysguard-data powerdevil-data
The following packages will be upgraded:
  kde-config-gtk-style-preview kdeplasma-addons-data ksysguard-data ksysguardd oxygen-sounds
  plasma-desktop-data plasma-discover-common plasma-wallpapers-addons plasma-workspace-data sddm-theme-breeze
  sddm-theme-debian-breeze
11 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 8 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
Need to get 34.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 5,081 kB disk space will be freed.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:51 am
by norbert
Yeah I wouldn't try it on a normal system for now .. it works in a clean vm, that is what I tested, but real life need the transition first.

The transition will start these days, so in about one week hopefully we have working system with 5.20

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:19 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:51 am Yeah I wouldn't try it on a normal system for now .. it works in a clean vm, that is what I tested, but real life need the transition first.

The transition will start these days, so in about one week hopefully we have working system with 5.20
Hey, that's very exciting, Norbert! Do you have any clues which version of KDE that Debian Bullseye will be likely to have when it moves to stable next year?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:24 am
by norbert
Transition of Qt 5.15 started today, so I expect that it will be finished in 5 days.

After that we upload Plasma 5.19 to unstable. That will go surely into BUllseye, but we start immediately on getting 5.20 on, too. So I hope that Bullseye will have 5.20

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:23 am
by MAYBL8
Getting this error this morning:

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Ign:10 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Err:11 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ Release
  Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The received OCSP status response is invalid.  Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification. [IP: 195.135.221.134 443]

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am
by dreamer
Sorry for being off topic. This should probably be posted on Debian forum (I'm currently not a member there).

Anyway, LXQt 0.15 was released April 2020. It's still not in Debian Sid. I fear it will not be in Bullseye. It only requires Qt 5.10 so it's a valid release for Debian Buster as well.

I could make an official package request on the MX forum, but before that I wanted to know if you know anything about the status of LXQt in Debian.
:cat:

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:33 pm
by norbert
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:23 am Getting this error this morning:

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Ign:10 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Err:11 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ Release
  Certificate verification failed: The certificate is NOT trusted. The received OCSP status response is invalid.  Could not handshake: Error in the certificate verification. [IP: 195.135.221.134 443]
Some hiccup on the OBS servers, nothing I can do.

Anyway, everything is in flux now due to the transition, don't expect to be able to install anything. The dust will settle in a few days.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:29 pm
by andyprough
dreamer wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:58 am Sorry for being off topic. This should probably be posted on Debian forum (I'm currently not a member there).

Anyway, LXQt 0.15 was released April 2020. It's still not in Debian Sid. I fear it will not be in Bullseye. It only requires Qt 5.10 so it's a valid release for Debian Buster as well.

I could make an official package request on the MX forum, but before that I wanted to know if you know anything about the status of LXQt in Debian.
:cat:
I don't have any knowledge about LXQt myself, sorry. Looks like you can go to this page to get access to the mailing list for the Debian devs involved with that project: https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin ... lxqt-devel

There are instructions on that page on how to subscribe to the list, how to read through the list archives, and how to post a message to the list. I think you might be able to ask your question there.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:33 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:24 am Transition of Qt 5.15 started today, so I expect that it will be finished in 5 days.

After that we upload Plasma 5.19 to unstable. That will go surely into BUllseye, but we start immediately on getting 5.20 on, too. So I hope that Bullseye will have 5.20
That's excellent news! Glad to see that they are working with you now.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:25 pm
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.2
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:35 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:25 pm

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.2
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
It's here!! Notice any difference at all?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:10 pm
by MAYBL8
I haven't had much time to spend in it.
I don't have all of it installed and I don't know if everything is there yet.
I will be testing over the next few days.
If I find something to share I will post it.
I wasn't told it was ready. I just went for it.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:15 pm
by norbert
Woooww ... and does it work???? On my installation it didn't work at all, so I haven't announced it :-D Couldn't log in, or better, the plasamshell did hang.

You obviously are better with my packages than myself ;-)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:33 pm
by MAYBL8
Well I removed some packages I got errors with. Can't tell you what those were now.
Then installed kde-standard and added some other packages like kscreen and I'm up and running.
Let me know if you want me to give you some package list data.
I am not good with grep but if you tell me the command I can run it.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:14 pm
by dreamer
andyprough wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:29 pm I don't have any knowledge about LXQt myself, sorry. Looks like you can go to this page to get access to the mailing list for the Debian devs involved with that project: https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin ... lxqt-devel
OK, thanks. After posting I realized that the most likely reason LXQt hadn't been built for Bullseye is probably because the version of Qt hadn't been decided. It will likely land before release. If not, after MX "Bullseye" has been released I can make a package request on the MX forum which will likely result in an even newer version, maybe even version 1.0 since that is what the devs are working towards.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 7:28 pm
by norbert
norbert wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 4:15 pm Woooww ... and does it work???? On my installation it didn't work at all, so I haven't announced it :-D Couldn't log in, or better, the plasamshell did hang.
Actually found the problem was a Plasmoid that doesn't work with Qt 5.15, so I saw the same crashes with Qt 5.15 based Plasma 5.19. After removing and re-updating everything works now ;-)

Now I need to write the blog post!

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:30 am
by MAYBL8
Big changes today

Code: Select all

$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-contacts-data akonadi-mime-data akonadi-server akregator ark colord
  colord-data dmidecode dolphin dragonplayer elisa gwenview juk kaddressbook kate kate5-data kcalc
  kde-spectacle kdeconnect kdenetwork-filesharing kdepim-runtime kdialog keditbookmarks
  kf5-kdepim-apps-libs-data kf5-messagelib-data kfind khelpcenter kio-extras kio-extras-data kio-ldap kmail
  knotes konqueror konsole konsole-kpart ksystemlog kwalletmanager kwrite libcolord2 libcolorhug2
  libdolphinvcs5 libkaccounts2 libkf5akonadi-data libkf5akonadiagentbase5 libkf5akonadicalendar-data
  libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1 libkf5akonadicontact5 libkf5akonadicore5abi2 libkf5akonadimime5
  libkf5akonadinotes5 libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2 libkf5akonadisearch-bin libkf5akonadisearch-data
  libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5
  libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 libkf5akonadiwidgets5abi1 libkf5alarmcalendar-data libkf5alarmcalendar5abi1
  libkf5baloowidgets-bin libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5calendarsupport-data libkf5calendarsupport5abi1
  libkf5calendarutils5 libkf5contacteditor5 libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5grantleetheme5
  libkf5gravatar-data libkf5gravatar5abi2 libkf5identitymanagement5 libkf5imap-data libkf5imap5
  libkf5kaddressbookgrantlee5 libkf5kaddressbookimportexport5 libkf5kdcraw5 libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0
  libkf5kipi-data libkf5kipi32.0.0 libkf5kmanagesieve5 libkf5konq6 libkf5kontactinterface-data
  libkf5kontactinterface5 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5 libkf5ksieveui5 libkf5ldap-data libkf5ldap5abi1
  libkf5libkdepim-data libkf5libkdepim5 libkf5libkleo-data libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailcommon-data
  libkf5mailcommon5abi2 libkf5mailimporter5 libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5mailtransport5
  libkf5mailtransportakonadi5 libkf5mbox5 libkf5messagecomposer5abi1 libkf5messagecore5abi1
  libkf5messagelist5abi1 libkf5messageviewer5abi1 libkf5mime-data libkf5mime5abi1 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1
  libkf5pimcommon-data libkf5pimcommon5abi2 libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1 libkf5pimtextedit-data
  libkf5pimtextedit5abi2 libkf5templateparser5 libkf5tnef5 libkf5webengineviewer5abi1 libkpimgapi-data
  libkpimgapicalendar5 libkpimgapicontacts5 libkpimgapicore5abi1 libkpimgapitasks5 libkpimsmtp5abi1
  libokular5core9 libpipewire-0.3-0 libqmobipocket2 libsasl2-modules-kdexoauth2 libspa-0.2-modules manpages
  manpages-dev okular openjdk-11-jre openjdk-11-jre-headless simple-scan sweeper
134 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 126 MB of archives.
After this operation, 154 kB disk space will be freed.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:40 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:30 am Big changes today

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-contacts-data akonadi-mime-data akonadi-server akregator ark colord
  colord-data dmidecode dolphin dragonplayer elisa gwenview juk kaddressbook kate kate5-data kcalc
  kde-spectacle kdeconnect kdenetwork-filesharing kdepim-runtime kdialog keditbookmarks
  kf5-kdepim-apps-libs-data kf5-messagelib-data kfind khelpcenter kio-extras kio-extras-data kio-ldap kmail
  knotes konqueror konsole konsole-kpart ksystemlog kwalletmanager kwrite libcolord2 libcolorhug2
  libdolphinvcs5 libkaccounts2 libkf5akonadi-data libkf5akonadiagentbase5 libkf5akonadicalendar-data
  libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1 libkf5akonadicontact5 libkf5akonadicore5abi2 libkf5akonadimime5
  libkf5akonadinotes5 libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2 libkf5akonadisearch-bin libkf5akonadisearch-data
  libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5
  libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 libkf5akonadiwidgets5abi1 libkf5alarmcalendar-data libkf5alarmcalendar5abi1
  libkf5baloowidgets-bin libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5calendarsupport-data libkf5calendarsupport5abi1
  libkf5calendarutils5 libkf5contacteditor5 libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5grantleetheme5
  libkf5gravatar-data libkf5gravatar5abi2 libkf5identitymanagement5 libkf5imap-data libkf5imap5
  libkf5kaddressbookgrantlee5 libkf5kaddressbookimportexport5 libkf5kdcraw5 libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0
  libkf5kipi-data libkf5kipi32.0.0 libkf5kmanagesieve5 libkf5konq6 libkf5kontactinterface-data
  libkf5kontactinterface5 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5 libkf5ksieveui5 libkf5ldap-data libkf5ldap5abi1
  libkf5libkdepim-data libkf5libkdepim5 libkf5libkleo-data libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailcommon-data
  libkf5mailcommon5abi2 libkf5mailimporter5 libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5mailtransport5
  libkf5mailtransportakonadi5 libkf5mbox5 libkf5messagecomposer5abi1 libkf5messagecore5abi1
  libkf5messagelist5abi1 libkf5messageviewer5abi1 libkf5mime-data libkf5mime5abi1 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1
  libkf5pimcommon-data libkf5pimcommon5abi2 libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1 libkf5pimtextedit-data
  libkf5pimtextedit5abi2 libkf5templateparser5 libkf5tnef5 libkf5webengineviewer5abi1 libkpimgapi-data
  libkpimgapicalendar5 libkpimgapicontacts5 libkpimgapicore5abi1 libkpimgapitasks5 libkpimsmtp5abi1
  libokular5core9 libpipewire-0.3-0 libqmobipocket2 libsasl2-modules-kdexoauth2 libspa-0.2-modules manpages
  manpages-dev okular openjdk-11-jre openjdk-11-jre-headless simple-scan sweeper
134 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 126 MB of archives.
After this operation, 154 kB disk space will be freed.
I'm going to take the plunge today.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:54 pm
by MAYBL8

Code: Select all

Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:18 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 3:54 pm

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.75.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
Another upgrade to 5.20.3, very nice. I'm old enough to remember when we were on 5.19.3, the good old days.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:17 am
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.76.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
5.76.0

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:17 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:17 am

Code: Select all

Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.76.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
5.76.0
Norbert's got those repos cooking now. Should be merging everything into Debian unstable soon.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:17 pm
by MAYBL8

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$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for dcihon: 
Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
Hit:2 http://deb.debian.org/debian-debug unstable-debug InRelease                                         
Hit:3 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster InRelease                                          
Hit:4 http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid InRelease                                                         
Hit:5 https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable InRelease                                      
Err:6 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
  Could not connect to download.opensuse.org:443 (2001:67c:2178:8::13). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) Could not connect to download.opensuse.org:443 (195.135.221.134), connection timed out
Err:7 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
  Unable to connect to download.opensuse.org:https:
Err:8 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma520/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
  Unable to connect to download.opensuse.org:https:
Err:9 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
  Unable to connect to download.opensuse.org:https:
Err:10 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
  Unable to connect to download.opensuse.org:https:
Reading package lists... Done
W: Failed to fetch https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/./InRelease  Could not connect to download.opensuse.org:443 (2001:67c:2178:8::13). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) Could not connect to download.opensuse.org:443 (195.135.221.134), connection timed out
W: Failed to fetch https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/./InRelease  Unable to connect to download.opensuse.org:https:
W: Failed to fetch https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma520/Debian_Unstable/./InRelease  Unable to connect to download.opensuse.org:https:
W: Failed to fetch https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/./InRelease  Unable to connect to download.opensuse.org:https:
W: Failed to fetch https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/./InRelease  Unable to connect to download.opensuse.org:https:
W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:18 pm
by andyprough
Those OBS repos are not always available, if I recall Norbert's warnings to others on his blog correctly. Sometimes they have to do something like refresh themselves - maybe check back tomorrow.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:34 pm
by MAYBL8
Today's messages

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Reading package lists... Done     
W: No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/download.opensuse.org_repositories_home:_npreining:_debian-kde:_other-deps_Debian%5fUnstable_._InRelease
E: The repository 'https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease' provides only weak security information.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:29 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:34 pm Today's messages

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Reading package lists... Done     
W: No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/download.opensuse.org_repositories_home:_npreining:_debian-kde:_other-deps_Debian%5fUnstable_._InRelease
E: The repository 'https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease' provides only weak security information.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
Hi Dan, someone reported that on Norbert's blog yesterday, and Norbert responded, "Please remove the other-deps repository, it is not available and necessary anymore."
https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/11/ ... ent-112806

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:58 pm
by MAYBL8
thanks
I didn't think to look there .
I will start watching that blog

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:06 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:58 pm thanks
I didn't think to look there .
I will start watching that blog
I was able to set it up to email me when there are updates. I don't remember how, but if you poke around his website it might be obvious.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:52 am
by andyprough
Hi Dan,
Norbert has a new blog post with a comprehensive overview on the repos and package status this morning:
https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/12/ ... 020-12-02/

I didn't see anything that would make you update right away or change your repo sources, but you may want to review it to be sure.

The exciting news is that 5.19.5 has finally moved into Debian testing, and 5.20.4 is moving into Experimental, and should hopefully be in Bullseye in time for the upcoming freeze. He's even hoping to get 5.20.5 in before the freeze. The next couple of years should be much better for KDE on MX as a result.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:03 am
by asqwerth
Good news.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:52 am
by MAYBL8
Updated and working just fine.

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.76.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.19.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:55 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:52 am Updated and working just fine.

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.76.0
Qt Version: 5.15.1
Kernel Version: 5.9.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
Looking good. I wonder if I could pull the packages directly from Experimental instead of from Norbert's repos? Might be worth trying it in a vm.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:21 pm
by andyprough
Norbert's got 5.20.4 packages in Debian Experimental now, hoping to get them into testing before the freeze so that they are a part of Bullseye next year. Which means they can be the base for MX KDE 20 or 21. He's asking for people to change to the Experimental repos and make bug reports in order to get it moving quickly enough into testing: https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/12/ ... in-debian/

I'll switch to Experimental now, probably try it on Debian and Devuan as well as on MX. Instructions for adding the Experimental repo and adding packages from it are here: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental
We need to have Sid enabled, and then add Experimental on top of it. Add into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list -

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deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main
Adding a package or set of packages will involve:

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apt update
apt -t experimental install packagename

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:52 am
by andyprough
This is not going well, difficult dependency conflicts. You do have to be fully using Sid in order to use Experimental, and they've got some tricky package conflicts when I try to install the plasma desktop.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:03 am
by MAYBL8
Looks like I don't want to do this today:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-contacts-data akonadi-mime-data anthy anthy-common baloo-kf5 breeze-cursor-theme command-not-found debconf-kde-data
  default-mysql-client-core default-mysql-server-core digikam-data drkonqi fonts-hack fonts-noto-hinted frameworkintegration hwdata ibverbs-providers ieee-data
  im-config kasumi kate5-data kde-cli-tools-data kde-style-breeze kdenlive-data kdeplasma-addons-data kdoctools5 kf5-kdepim-apps-libs-data kf5-messagelib-data
  kinit kio-ldap ktexteditor-data ktorrent-data kwayland-data kwin-data kwin-style-breeze libaccounts-glib0 libaccounts-qt5-1 libanthy1 libanthyinput0
  libappstreamqt2 libastro1 libdebconf-kde1 libdmtx0b libdolphinvcs5 libebur128-1 libeditorconfig0 libevent-core-2.1-7 libevent-pthreads-2.1-7 libfabric1
  libfakekey0 libgcroots0 libgdcm3.0 libgeoip1 libgeos-3.8.1 libgit2-28 libgl2ps1.4 libgps26 libgrantlee-templates5 libhdf5-openmpi-103-1 libhttp-parser2.9
  libhwloc-plugins libhwloc15 libibus-1.0-5 libibverbs1 libjs-underscore libkaccounts2 libkdsoap1 libkf5activitiesstats1 libkf5akonadi-data
  libkf5akonadicalendar-data libkf5akonadicore5abi2 libkf5akonadinotes5 libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2 libkf5akonadisearch-data libkf5akonadisearchcore5
  libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5 libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 libkf5alarmcalendar-data libkf5auth5 libkf5bluezqt-data libkf5bluezqt6
  libkf5bookmarks-data libkf5calendarcore5abi2 libkf5calendarevents5 libkf5calendarsupport-data libkf5contacteditor5 libkf5contacts-data libkf5contacts5
  libkf5dav-data libkf5dav5 libkf5eventviews-data libkf5globalaccel-bin libkf5globalaccel-data libkf5globalaccel5 libkf5globalaccelprivate5
  libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5gravatar-data libkf5holidays-data libkf5holidays5 libkf5idletime5 libkf5imap-data libkf5imap5 libkf5incidenceeditor-data
  libkf5js5 libkf5jsapi5 libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kdcraw5 libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0 libkf5khtml-data libkf5kipi-data libkf5kmanagesieve5
  libkf5kontactinterface-data libkf5krosscore5 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5 libkf5ldap-data libkf5ldap5abi1 libkf5libkdepim-data libkf5libkdepim5
  libkf5libkleo-data libkf5mailcommon-data libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5mbox5 libkf5mime-data libkf5mime5abi1 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1 libkf5modemmanagerqt6
  libkf5newstuff-data libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5 libkf5parts-data libkf5people-data libkf5people5 libkf5peoplebackend5 libkf5peoplewidgets5
  libkf5pimcommon-data libkf5pimtextedit-data libkf5plotting5 libkf5prison5 libkf5pty-data libkf5pty5 libkf5pulseaudioqt2 libkf5purpose-bin libkf5purpose5
  libkf5sane-data libkf5sane5 libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libkf5style5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5 libkf5syndication5abi1 libkf5syntaxhighlighting-data
  libkf5syntaxhighlighting5 libkf5sysguard-data libkf5texteditor-bin libkf5threadweaver5 libkf5unitconversion-data libkf5unitconversion5 libkf5waylandclient5
  libkf5waylandserver5 libkf5xmlgui-bin libkf5xmlgui-data libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkgantt2 libkolabxml1v5 libkpimgapi-data libkpimsmtp5abi1 libksgrd9
  libksysguardformatter1 libksysguardsensorfaces1 libksysguardsensors1 libkuserfeedbackwidgets1 libkwaylandserver5 libkwineffects12a libkwinglutils12
  libkwinxrenderutils12 libkworkspace5-5 libm17n-0 libmagick++-6.q16-8 libmarblewidget-qt5-28 libmarkdown2 libmbedcrypto3 libmbedtls12 libmbedx509-0 libmlt++3
  libmlt-data libmlt6 libmovit8 libnetcdf-c++4 libopencv-calib3d4.2 libopencv-contrib4.2 libopencv-core4.2 libopencv-dnn4.2 libopencv-features2d4.2
  libopencv-flann4.2 libopencv-highgui4.2 libopencv-imgcodecs4.2 libopencv-imgproc4.2 libopencv-ml4.2 libopencv-objdetect4.2 libopencv-photo4.2 libopencv-shape4.2
  libopencv-stitching4.2 libopencv-superres4.2 libopencv-video4.2 libopencv-videoio4.2 libopencv-videostab4.2 libopencv-viz4.2 libopenmpi3 libotf0
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libplymouth4 libpmix2 libprocesscore9 libpsm-infinipath1 libpsm2-2 libqalculate20 libqalculate20-data libqapt3 libqapt3-runtime
  libqgpgme7 libqmobipocket2 libqrencode4 libqt5multimedia5-plugins libqt5multimediagsttools5 libqt5multimediawidgets5 libqt5networkauth5 libqt5quickparticles5
  libqt5script5 libqt5test5 libqt5waylandclient5 libqt5webengine-data libqt5xmlpatterns5 librdmacm1 librtaudio6 librttr-core0.9.6 libsasl2-modules-kdexoauth2
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Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:43 am
by andyprough
That's a big one Dan. You didn't switch to the Debian Experimental repo did you? I wouldn't recommend it - not working at all for me so far.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:44 am
by MAYBL8
No I'm still on the original SID repos.
I'm going to stay that way as long as it keeps getting updated.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:52 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:44 am No I'm still on the original SID repos.
I'm going to stay that way as long as it keeps getting updated.
Yeah, I'll wait until after Christmas to see if Experimental somehow works itself out, but it's just a testing vm for me, I'll probably end up discarding it and starting over.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:23 am
by MAYBL8
Thought I would try the experimental. I have never used it before.
What do I need to do to install plasma from there?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:48 am
by frmald
Not a direct reply, but prepare for pain; I'm writing up my own writeup

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:05 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:23 am Thought I would try the experimental. I have never used it before.
What do I need to do to install plasma from there?
I do not know - I managed to brick my Experimental vm somehow. Started with all kinds of dependency problems, now there's no network. I'm trashing this one and starting over.

I would try installing plasma-desktop if you can get to that point. That's probably when you'll run into dependency hell, although hopefully you'll have a better time of it than me.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:07 am
by andyprough
frmald wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:48 am Not a direct reply, but prepare for pain; I'm writing up my own writeup
Agreed, this attempt with Experimental has not been fun so far. Feel free to use this thread for your writeup if you like, I'm sure Dan and I would be glad to learn from your experiences.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:20 am
by MAYBL8
frmald wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:48 am Not a direct reply, but prepare for pain; I'm writing up my own writeup
Does this write up take you from a standard MX install to experimental?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:28 am
by MAYBL8
So I tried this and this is what I am getting. I am sure I don't have something setup correctly.
I thought it was loaded into experimental so it should be able to be tested.

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root@mx-kde-sid:~# apt -t experimental install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 plasma-desktop : Depends: breeze (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: kactivitymanagerd (>= 5.20~) but 5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: kde-cli-tools (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-desktop-data (= 4:5.20.4-1) but 4:5.14.5.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-integration (>= 5.20~) but 5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-workspace (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: polkit-kde-agent-1 (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: qml-module-org-kde-qqc2desktopstyle (>= 5.58.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.29) but 2.28-10 is to be installed
                  Depends: libcrypt1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libibus-1.0-5 (>= 1.5.16) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkaccounts2 (>= 4:20.07.90) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkf5activities5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5activitiesstats1 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5authcore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkf5baloo5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configcore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1+deb10u1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1+deb10u1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configwidgets5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5dbusaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5declarative5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5globalaccel5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5guiaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5i18n5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kcmutils5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kdelibs4support5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiocore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiofilewidgets5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiogui5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiowidgets5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5notifications5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5notifyconfig5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5plasma5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5plasmaquick5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5quickaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5runner5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5service5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5sonnetcore5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5sonnetui5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5wallet5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5widgetsaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5windowsystem5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5xmlgui5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkworkspace5-5 (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libnotificationmanager1 (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libprocesscore9 (>= 4:5.18.90) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5concurrent5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5core5a (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5dbus5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5gui5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed or
                           libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.0~) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libqt5network5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5qml5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5quick5 (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed or
                           libqt5quick5-gles (>= 5.15.1) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5quickwidgets5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5sql5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5x11extras5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-2 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5xml5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libtaskmanager6abi1 (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libxkbfile1 (>= 1:1.1.0) but 1:1.0.9-2+b11 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:50 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:28 am So I tried this and this is what I am getting. I am sure I don't have something setup correctly.
I thought it was loaded into experimental so it should be able to be tested.

Code: Select all

root@mx-kde-sid:~# apt -t experimental install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 plasma-desktop : Depends: breeze (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: kactivitymanagerd (>= 5.20~) but 5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: kde-cli-tools (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-desktop-data (= 4:5.20.4-1) but 4:5.14.5.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-integration (>= 5.20~) but 5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: plasma-workspace (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: polkit-kde-agent-1 (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: qml-module-org-kde-qqc2desktopstyle (>= 5.58.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.29) but 2.28-10 is to be installed
                  Depends: libcrypt1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libibus-1.0-5 (>= 1.5.16) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkaccounts2 (>= 4:20.07.90) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkf5activities5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5activitiesstats1 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5authcore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libkf5baloo5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configcore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1+deb10u1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configgui5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1+deb10u1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5configwidgets5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5dbusaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5declarative5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5globalaccel5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5guiaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5i18n5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kcmutils5 (>= 5.74.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kdelibs4support5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiocore5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiofilewidgets5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiogui5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5kiowidgets5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5notifications5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5notifyconfig5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5plasma5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5plasmaquick5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5quickaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5runner5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5service5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5sonnetcore5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5sonnetui5 (>= 5.69.0) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5wallet5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5widgetsaddons5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5windowsystem5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkf5xmlgui5 (>= 5.74.0~) but 5.54.0-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libkworkspace5-5 (>= 4:5.20~) but 4:5.14.5.1-1 is to be installed
                  Depends: libnotificationmanager1 (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libprocesscore9 (>= 4:5.18.90) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5concurrent5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5core5a (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5dbus5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5gui5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed or
                           libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.15.0~) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libqt5network5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5qml5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5quick5 (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed or
                           libqt5quick5-gles (>= 5.15.1) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5quickwidgets5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5sql5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.15.1) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5x11extras5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3-2 is to be installed
                  Depends: libqt5xml5 (>= 5.15.0~) but 5.11.3+dfsg1-1+deb10u4 is to be installed
                  Depends: libtaskmanager6abi1 (>= 4:5.20~) but it is not going to be installed
                  Depends: libxkbfile1 (>= 1:1.1.0) but 1:1.0.9-2+b11 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
This is strange. It looks to me like your system is not looking to Experimental for dependencies. Could be that there's more to the command than just "apt -t experimental install plasma-desktop". There must be an option for telling apt to look for dependencies from Experimental that I'm missing.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:01 pm
by MAYBL8
I'm sure this is wrong but all I did was change the debian.list to experimental:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:43 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:01 pm I'm sure this is wrong but all I did was change the debian.list to experimental:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
You are mixing Experimental with Debian buster-updates. Experimental requires Sid repos in order fulfill dependencies. And Experimental can't be the main repo - that has to be Sid. Experimental is just an add-on repo to Sid.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:35 pm
by MAYBL8
ok making this change:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
resulted in this change:

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$ sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:17 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:35 pm ok making this change:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
resulted in this change:

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$ sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
That's the first error I ran into. And then when I forced my way past that, there were many other dependency errors. And then after a bit of experimenting, I had a bricked vm with no networking, and thus no ability to accomplish anything with apt. Might be worth trying it on a plain vanilla Debian or Devuan vm. Maybe there's something about the way that MX pins its repos that makes it harder to work with Experimental.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:23 pm
by MAYBL8
This is a good exercise in learning how this works anyway.
There must be some way to do this or people couldn't do the testing they are asking for?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:33 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:23 pm This is a good exercise in learning how this works anyway.
There must be some way to do this or people couldn't do the testing they are asking for?
Yup, I think it works on Debian and Devuan, but not on MX. I just ran a live Devuan ISO in a vm and changed the repos to this ("ceres" is Devuan's version of Sid):

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deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main
I did an apt update but not an apt upgrade, and then 'apt -t experimental install kate', to see what it would do just installing the KDE text editor. It installed a ton of stuff, including the 5.20.4 versions of kacvitivtymanagerd and kwayland-integration. Right now it's showing KDE Frameworks 5.74.0 and Qt 5.15.2 (built against 5.15.2). KDE Frameworks is behind your Sid version of 5.76, but Qt is ahead of your Sid version of 5.15.1.

So, it looks like it basically works in a Debian/Devuan setup, at least from my quick look at a Devuan live environment. The only repos I had active were:

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deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main
- all other repos were commented out. I'll fully install Devuan into a vm and play with it some more. Probably will end up bricking this vm also fairly soon, as I'm mixing Debian's experimental with Devuan's unstable. But, it has basic workability. kate works fine.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:32 am
by andyprough
Exciting news today - Norbert's latest packages have been accepted into Debian unstable!

https://www.preining.info/blog/2020/12/ ... -bullseye/

So they are nearly certain to make it into Bullseye, and we can have the latest while staying with Sid repos. Instructions in the blog post.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:24 pm
by MAYBL8
I must have messed up something.
I can't get any updates to work:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Error!
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:29 pm
by asqwerth
I doubt your install will work with buster repos still there. I think only pure Sid packages and repos will work at this stage.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:40 pm
by MAYBL8
No change:

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
$ sudo apt-get update
[sudo] password for dcihon: 
Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
Hit:2 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2008/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Error!
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 6:28 pm
by norbert
First of all I suggest using the apps2012 repository ... ooh, I haven't written about it, but it is there, just replace "apps2008" with "apps2012" ;-)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:48 am
by MAYBL8
Still the same problem with libc6-dev

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Error!
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: libgcc-8-dev (< 8.4.0-2~) but 8.3.0-6 is to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2012/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:15 am
by MAYBL8
I installed gcc-8-base per a google search, after many removals and adds with dist-upgrade I am now here:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
6 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 0 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Setting up locales (2.31-6) ...
Can't exec "debconf-kde-helper": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Kde.pm line 43.
Unable to execute debconf-kde-helper - is debconf-kde-helper installed?dpkg: error processing package locales (--configure):
 installed locales package post-installation script subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Setting up tzdata (2020e-1) ...
Can't exec "debconf-kde-helper": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Kde.pm line 43.
Unable to execute debconf-kde-helper - is debconf-kde-helper installed?dpkg: error processing package tzdata (--configure):
 installed tzdata package post-installation script subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of ntp:
 ntp depends on tzdata; however:
  Package tzdata is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package ntp (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libtcl8.6:amd64:
 libtcl8.6:amd64 depends on tzdata; however:
  Package tzdata is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package libtcl8.6:amd64 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tcl8.6:
 tcl8.6 depends on libtcl8.6 (>= 8.6.0); however:
  Package libtcl8.6:amd64 is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package tcl8.6 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tcl:
 tcl depends on tcl8.6 (>= 8.6.10+dfsg-1~); however:
  Package tcl8.6 is not configured yet.

dpkg: error processing package tcl (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 locales
 tzdata
 ntp
 libtcl8.6:amd64
 tcl8.6
 tcl
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:23 am
by MAYBL8
After a reboot it left me at a console login prompt.
I think I am going to do a base debian install on this system and try from there to get unstable working.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:28 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:15 am I installed gcc-8-base per a google search, after many removals and adds with dist-upgrade I am now here:
I'm going to try it with a fresh MX 19.3 VM.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 12:28 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:15 amI installed gcc-8-base per a google search, after many removals and adds with dist-upgrade I am now here:
Here's what worked for me on a fresh MX19.3 vm -
1. immediately changed to the Sid repo and Norbert's 2012 repo and disabled the MX repo before updating any packages.
2. I tried to install plasma-desktop and got the same "libc6-dev breaks libgcc-8-dev" error.
3. I did the following:

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sudo apt purge libgcc-8-dev libc6-dev
and apt removed a lot of the build-essential tools and reinstalled some new ones.
4. Rebooted
5. ran 'sudo apt install plasma-desktop', and apt went to work installing about 468 packages
6. Rebooted
7. Plasma desktop came right up

Obviously don't do these steps unless you don't mind breaking your system and reinstalling and have everything very carefully backed up. But it did work for my freshly installed MX19.3 vm. It appears to me that the MX-supplied versions of libc6-dev and libgcc-8-dev are incompatible with whatever Sid is trying to do right now.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:52 am
by norbert
`debconf-kde-helper` ??? What is that? I have heard the first time of it and on my computer there is nowhere a trace of it ...???

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:55 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:52 am `debconf-kde-helper` ??? What is that? I have heard the first time of it and on my computer there is nowhere a trace of it ...???
It's a real package:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/debconf-kde-helper

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:15 pm
by MAYBL8
Thanks guys I am back up and running.

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.77.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.8.0-3-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
I still have some errors but I will investigate those:
must be something that is being worked on in unstable:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  gcc-8-base gcc-8-base:i386
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:21 pm
by norbert
Good to hear! I don't know about the gcc-8-base, it is uptodate here, and I don't see any strange dependencies.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 5:15 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:15 pm Thanks guys I am back up and running.
You are basically running what will eventually be MX KDE 21 right now Dan. Pretty cool.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:43 am
by norbert
@andyprough Anything you would like from our side to get ready?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:31 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:43 am @andyprough Anything you would like from our side to get ready?
I'll send a message to the devs and ask them this question, thanks Norbert. For Dan and I it still appears to be working great on both MX and Devuan. But maybe Dan or the devs know of a change that would be beneficial.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:28 am
by MAYBL8
From my standpoint since I am on unstable not all unstable packages will be brought over so I am not sure how stable this would be for MX. I'm sure the devs already have enough to deal with.
If we knew for sure the KDE packages would stay at this version for the next stable release then they could probably use the packages for the next MX release.
I have some issues with network packages not installing . I am using cmst to get my networking working.
I have only played around with some of the themes at this point so I haven't done much with it yet.
Sorry I can't help more.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:36 am
by MAYBL8
I installed gcc-8-base from here and no more packages kept back:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/g ... e/download

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:18 pm
by dolphin_oracle
andyprough wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 7:55 am
norbert wrote: Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:52 am `debconf-kde-helper` ??? What is that? I have heard the first time of it and on my computer there is nowhere a trace of it ...???
It's a real package:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/debconf-kde-helper
that thing is the gui for dpkg --configure operations that have prompts, like steam or some firmware packages, virtualbox, lots of things. when you install more than one display manager, there is a prompt to decide which display manager to actually use.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:20 pm
by dolphin_oracle
norbert wrote: Sat Dec 26, 2020 2:43 am @andyprough Anything you would like from our side to get ready?
I think we are just happy that you are involved with the KDE updates. KDE/plasma has always felt like a second-class citizen on debian.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:24 pm
by norbert
Hopefully not anymore, I'll try to push updates as far s possible, and new release should also be available via OBS.

OTOH I feel less and less motivated to care for Cinnamon, which I don't use anymore but I'm not it less the only one (and Fabio).

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:04 pm
by andyprough
Hi Norbert,
One MX dev said to always keep in mind that we are wanting to avoid any hard dependencies on systemd. I'm assuming that won't be too much problem, since unlike Gnome, KDE does not seem to have any init dependence issues.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:07 pm
by norbert
Well, with Plasma 5.21 there will be more and more systemd creep coming in. I'm not happy about it myself, but this is what is going on. I'll try to keep KDE/plasma working without systemd, but this also friend on upstream.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:51 pm
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.77.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.8.0-3-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:34 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:51 pm

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.77.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.8.0-3-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
What's your repos now Dan?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:39 pm
by MAYBL8

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2012/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:43 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:39 pm

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2012/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
OK good. Were you able to just apt update and apt upgrade? Did you have to manually deal with anything?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:47 pm
by MAYBL8
I didn't document the process.
If I remember I had to update several times and remove some packages . I think in my previous posts I documented what I removed.
If you want I can go through the process and document it?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.4 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:56 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:47 pm I didn't document the process.
If I remember I had to update several times and remove some packages . I think in my previous posts I documented what I removed.
If you want I can go through the process and document it?
That's OK. I updated the first post of this thread with your current repos and with the latest version number.

Exciting times! Everything running OK now?

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:16 pm
by MAYBL8
I haven't tested everything but it seems to be working as expected.
Some issues with some themes but there are so many and theme issues in KDE have always been there since they are user created.
I would think that if it is a global theme it would include everything with it like icons and cursors etc but that is not always the case.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:32 am
by MAYBL8
I don't expect the MX tools to work the way I am installed but I thought I would try the MXPI and got this error:

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$ Starting /usr/bin/mx-packageinstaller
mx-packageinstaller version: 21.1.02
+++ void MainWindow::setProgressDialog() +++
+++ void MainWindow::setup() +++
dpkg-query -f '${Version}' -W flatpak
"1.8.4-2"
cat /etc/debian_version | cut -f1 -d'.'
"bullseye/sid"
Could not detect Debian version

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:24 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:32 am I don't expect the MX tools to work the way I am installed but I thought I would try the MXPI and got this error:

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$ Starting /usr/bin/mx-packageinstaller
mx-packageinstaller version: 21.1.02
+++ void MainWindow::setProgressDialog() +++
+++ void MainWindow::setup() +++
dpkg-query -f '${Version}' -W flatpak
"1.8.4-2"
cat /etc/debian_version | cut -f1 -d'.'
"bullseye/sid"
Could not detect Debian version
MXPI is going to be looking for the MX Testing and the Debian Buster repos - probably won't start without them enabled. And if you did enable them and use it to install a package, MXPI would probably pull in a Buster version of some libraries or some gcc package or something as part of the install and then you'd be completely hosed.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:22 pm
by MAYBL8
I think I had it working before my last rebuild of the repos. And you are correct about bringing in buster packages.
I probably caused some of my own issues before due to being a frankendebian.

I have a stable sid right now so I am not going to rock the boat.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:59 pm
by andyprough
Debian Bullseye now has plasma 5.20.4: https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/plasma-desktop

The Bullseye freeze schedule began yesterday with a "transition and (build-)essential freeze". A soft freeze starts on Feb. 12th and a hard freeze on March 12th. I don't know which of those affects the final package version for plasma, but maybe at least 5.20.5 can get in under the deadline. https://release.debian.org/bullseye/freeze_policy.html

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:10 pm
by norbert
Bullseye will have:
- Plasma 5.20.5
- Apps 20.12.0/1 (with exception of PIM which remains at 20.08)
- Frameworks 5.77 or 5.78 (experimental has already 5.78, but I am not sure we will push that to unstable/testing)

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:48 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:10 pm Bullseye will have:
- Plasma 5.20.5
- Apps 20.12.0/1 (with exception of PIM which remains at 20.08)
- Frameworks 5.77 or 5.78 (experimental has already 5.78, but I am not sure we will push that to unstable/testing)
That's excellent news.

Will you continue to help package beyond 5.20.5 for Sid, Norbert? I'm wondering if the MX devs could tie their Qt apps to your repos instead of Debian Stable for MX 21, allowing them to keep up with the latest plasma versions.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:12 pm
by norbert
I haven't decided by now (mostly due to some changes coming up personally)
- I plan to work in the Debian Qt/KDE Team towards updates of KDE/Plasma. In particular, new versions of plasma (5.21) will got to experimental
- After bullseye release I plan to add the new stable (bullseye) to the OBS repositories and push updates and newer versions to OBS as they come in
- if, at some time in the future, Qt in bullseye will not support newer Plasma anymore, this will probably has to stop

Hope that makes my intention more or less clear.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:28 am
by Alt
norbert wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 6:12 pm I haven't decided by now (mostly due to some changes coming up personally)
- I plan to work in the Debian Qt/KDE Team towards updates of KDE/Plasma. In particular, new versions of plasma (5.21) will got to experimental
- After bullseye release I plan to add the new stable (bullseye) to the OBS repositories and push updates and newer versions to OBS as they come in
- if, at some time in the future, Qt in bullseye will not support newer Plasma anymore, this will probably has to stop

Hope that makes my intention more or less clear.
KDE users would love to finally see backports for Stable. According to QT Company, QT 5.15 is their last LTS for QT5 series. QT6 is not ready yet and KDE wouldn't jump into it anyway. If there won't be some QT5 community fork I really don't see how Plasma/Applications could become incompatible with minor QT5 updates/backports/fixes.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:31 am
by norbert
I cannot provide official backports, I just try to get things compile on different releases. No guarantee, no strings attached.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:41 am
by andyprough
Alt wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:28 am KDE users would love to finally see backports for Stable. According to QT Company, QT 5.15 is their last LTS for QT5 series. QT6 is not ready yet and KDE wouldn't jump into it anyway. If there won't be some QT5 community fork I really don't see how Plasma/Applications could become incompatible with minor QT5 updates/backports/fixes.
That's a good point, Qt version should be pretty stable for a couple of years. Maybe MX devs could allow plasma and Qt to track with Debian testing or sid for awhile without breaking their own homemade Qt apps.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:13 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:22 pm I think I had it working before my last rebuild of the repos. And you are correct about bringing in buster packages.
I probably caused some of my own issues before due to being a frankendebian.

I have a stable sid right now so I am not going to rock the boat.
Since things are so stable right now, maybe we should create an MX Sid KDE respin. If we left off the MX Package Installer hopefully most other things would still work. We could try to base it off of MX KDE, change out the repos, remove MXPI, and see if we get an ISO that will actually install for us.

Re: MX Modified - KDE 5.20.5 on MX (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:41 am
by andyprough
I made a respin, with MX-KDE base, then added Sid and Norbert's repos, and upgraded to plasma 5.20.5. Calling it "MX KDE Sid Respin" for now. Download the ISO from here: https://mega.nz/folder/TNtGURKb#yZKlbP2R9kEIcIQEAWbipw

It's in alpha condition, has a few rough edges. When I tried it as a live ISO in Virtualbox I had to run 'sudo NetworkManager' in a terminal to start up networking. MX Package Installer does not work, and is not likely to work as long as it is using Debian Sid repos. Passwords are the same for the MX Live ISO's - demo/demo, root/root.

Not production ready, not by a long shot. This is just for experimentation. Try it in a vm or as a live usb, but don't install it on a disk where you are keeping important data.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:41 am
by andyprough
Updated respin ISO is here: https://mega.nz/folder/KUtCmBiY#RtWPSb5OSNYgQADc8ZLibg

Passwords are the same as the MX Live ISO: demo/demo, root/root

Still alpha condition, still not recommended for anything but experimentation. It has a fairly large number of updated packages, with plasma 5.20.5, Frameworks 5.78.0, and Qt 5.15.2

Networking still does not work automatically, you need to run 'sudo NetworkManager' after logging in. Seems to be due to a Sid version of NetworkManager that requires systemd - I'll look into whether I can revert to the MX version of NetworkManager for the next respin.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:17 pm
by MAYBL8
@andy,
I haven't tried your respin yet but I use CMST conman system tray for my network manager and that works quite well.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:25 pm
by dolphin_oracle
on network-manager, its worth just trying the init script from the previous version.

place the script contained in the attached archive into /etc/init.d and then issue

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sudo update-rc.d network-manager defaults
reboot and see if that helps.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:13 pm
by andyprough
dolphin_oracle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:25 pm on network-manager, its worth just trying the init script from the previous version.

place the script contained in the attached archive into /etc/init.d and then issue

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sudo update-rc.d network-manager defaults
reboot and see if that helps.
OK, yes, that should do it. I noticed I was missing any reference to network-manager in /etc/init.d. Probably got deleted when I upgraded to the Sid packages. This should probably fix it right up, thank you.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:57 pm
by MAYBL8
I saw mention of a 5.20.90.
Is this something I can update to on my sid install?

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:16 pm
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 all I see on my Sid respin are options to upgrade to some 5.20.5-3 packages. I don't see any 5.20.9 being available. If you find it on your Sid install then more power to you.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:19 pm
by MAYBL8
https://download.opensuse.org/repositor ... n_Testing/

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:27 pm
by andyprough
I see it! 5.20.90. Is this a repo that you have now? I just have his unstable apps2012 repo.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:37 pm
by MAYBL8
No I don't have it.
I didn't know if it was safe to use it.
Would like to hear from Norbert

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:00 pm
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 just email him and ask - norbert at preining dot info

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:11 pm
by norbert
I use it on both of my working machines, but then, out is a beta release, so expect rough edges.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:38 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:11 pm I use it on both of my working machines, but then, out is a beta release, so expect rough edges.
How would we use it? Replace the apps2012 repo with that plasma521 repo?

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:11 pm
by norbert
No, just add it

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:13 pm
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.90
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:15 pm
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 You did it! Living on the true bleeding edge now.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:19 pm
by MAYBL8
That's me.
But I think experimental is the most bleeding edge.
I think that is what it is called.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:50 am
by markol
Hey guys, thank you all for a really great job you're doing!

I followed the instructions in the first post and trying to update the fresh install (19.3) in my VM

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 10
KDE Plasma Version: 5.20.5
Qt Version: 5.15.2
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0
Kernel Version: 5.8.0-3-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Processor: 1 × Intel® Core™ i7-4720HQ CPU @ 2.60GHz
Memory: 3,8 GiB of RAM
Update went well, but System Settings did not work
I had to reinstall qml-module-org-kde-newstuff and qml-module-org-kde-kcm and ta-daaa, settings were there :)

After that I tried Kmail but there were some weird errors. Soon I've found out that kdepim-addons didn't install.
I purged kdepim and tried to reinstall addons, but no success. There are some broken packages (libphonenumber7 if I remember correctly?)
I couldn't get accountwizzard to work (I tried adding email accounts and calendars to Thunderbird without problems).

The last thing I noticed is that apt-notifier stopped working 8MX Updater missing from menu as well)

As far as I can tell, other things work. Great success!

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:14 am
by MAYBL8
Can you give us a QSI or an inxi -Frxz so we can have some info on your system?
If you are new to Debian Testing or SID you probably should go do some reading on that.
You will have some packages that are in the middle up being changed so there will be some packages being held or broken.

When I first installed norberts repo I had to manually install some packages to get kde working.
Andy created a respin . You could try that it might have some of those already installed.

I just updated to norberts plazma521 last night and am working to see what changes that has made to my system.
All is working pretty good so far.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:37 am
by andyprough
markol wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:50 amAfter that I tried Kmail but there were some weird errors. Soon I've found out that kdepim-addons didn't install.
I purged kdepim and tried to reinstall addons, but no success. There are some broken packages (libphonenumber7 if I remember correctly?)
I couldn't get accountwizzard to work (I tried adding email accounts and calendars to Thunderbird without problems).
To my knowledge, Kmail has been broken on and off for over ten years and regularly fails to add email accounts and calendars. I have not tried to use it at all with this method, and would advise against it. Good on you to just go with Thunderbird, you should have a much better experience.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:00 pm
by markol
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:14 am Can you give us a QSI or an inxi -Frxz so we can have some info on your system?
If you are new to Debian Testing or SID you probably should go do some reading on that.
You will have some packages that are in the middle up being changed so there will be some packages being held or broken.

When I first installed norberts repo I had to manually install some packages to get kde working.
Andy created a respin . You could try that it might have some of those already installed.

I just updated to norberts plazma521 last night and am working to see what changes that has made to my system.
All is working pretty good so far.
As I said, everything else is working well. This was a fresh install of MX Linux 19.3 in VM for testing purposes. I really wanted to have latest Plasma, but not had the balls to do it on my working machine (which is running MX Linux :) )
Repos were looking exactly the same as in the first post of this topic. I switched them back after I stopped playing with broken/held packages so inxi wouldn't do much good

andyprough wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:37 am To my knowledge, Kmail has been broken on and off for over ten years and regularly fails to add email accounts and calendars. I have not tried to use it at all with this method, and would advise against it. Good on you to just go with Thunderbird, you should have a much better experience.
Haha I know :D
I've been using Thunderbird (and its predecessors) since Netscape times. I just wanted to give Kmail/Korganizer another chance since I really love apps that are well integrated into the environment. No worries there, TB stays on my main machine :)

I switched to MX Linux not so long ago, but my machines have been running Debian user since... well, long.
MX Linux is what Debian should be in the first place.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:20 pm
by markol
I switched back to unstable repos and reinstalled kdepim-addons. No errors now, but Kmail still doesn't add new account. I reinstalled accountwizard but still no luck.
Here's my inxi -Frxz

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System:    Host: mentarix Kernel: 5.8.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.5 
           Distro: MX-19.3_KDE_x64 patito feo November 11 2020 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
Machine:   Type: Virtualbox System: innotek product: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Oracle model: VirtualBox v: 1.2 serial: <filter> BIOS: innotek v: VirtualBox 
           date: 12/01/2006 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 50.0 Wh condition: 50.0/50.0 Wh (100%) model: innotek 1 status: Full 
CPU:       Topology: Single Core model: Intel Core i7-4720HQ bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Haswell rev: 3 
           L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 5189 
           Speed: 2595 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2595 
Graphics:  Device-1: VMware SVGA II Adapter driver: vmwgfx v: 2.18.0.0 bus ID: 00:02.0 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 driver: vmware unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
           resolution: 1356x747~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 10.0.0 256 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.1.8 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 82801AA AC97 Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus ID: 00:05.0 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.8.0-3-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: d020 
           bus ID: 00:03.0 
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI type: network bridge driver: piix4_smbus v: N/A 
           port: d200 bus ID: 00:07.0 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 15.09 GiB used: 2.68 TiB (18217.9%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: VirtualBox model: VBOX HARDDISK size: 15.09 GiB 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 12.79 GiB used: 8.08 GiB (63.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:   Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://ftp.arnes.si/mirrors/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb https://ftp.arnes.si/mirrors/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/unstable.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2012/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 161 Uptime: 26m Memory: 3.85 GiB used: 872.4 MiB (22.2%) Init: systemd runlevel: 5 
           Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 inxi: 3.0.36

MX Updater still not showing.

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sudo apt install apt-notifier --upgrade
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The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 apt-notifier : Depends: python-pyqt5 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Other MX Tools seem to be working.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:02 pm
by andyprough
markol wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:20 pmMX Updater still not showing.

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sudo apt install apt-notifier --upgrade
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The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 apt-notifier : Depends: python-pyqt5 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
Other MX Tools seem to be working.
I don't know that we've managed to get MX Updater running with MX KDE Sid. What you could try is to trick apt into installing it - disable Sid and Norbert's repos and enable the Buster repo. Then 'sudo apt update' but do not upgrade. Then try 'sudo apt install apt-notifier' without the '--upgrade' (or with it if it helps). If it installs, then quickly disable Buster repo and enable Sid and Norbert's repos again. Something like that. Could be that it's just incompatible with this advanced plasma desktop no matter what you try though.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:34 pm
by dolphin_oracle
apt-notifier for the post-python2 world is under development but not ready yet.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:13 pm
by MAYBL8
@dolphin_oracle If you need it tested based on sid let us know. I would be happy to test something for you.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:51 pm
by fehlix
MAYBL8 wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:13 pm @dolphin_oracle If you need it tested based on sid let us know. I would be happy to test something for you.
apt-notifier will be soonish available for testing, after some unit-tests made on sid and bullseye.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:54 pm
by fehlix
@richb
Opps, I clicked on the wrong "solved" button as is it is too close to the quote-reply button,
please, revoke the [solved] on this thread
thanks

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:47 am
by markol
andyprough wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:02 pm I don't know that we've managed to get MX Updater running with MX KDE Sid. What you could try is to trick apt into installing it - disable Sid and Norbert's repos and enable the Buster repo. Then 'sudo apt update' but do not upgrade. Then try 'sudo apt install apt-notifier' without the '--upgrade' (or with it if it helps). If it installs, then quickly disable Buster repo and enable Sid and Norbert's repos again. Something like that. Could be that it's just incompatible with this advanced plasma desktop no matter what you try though.
Tried that :)

I'll just wait for the official release, my system is running fine. Keep up the good work!

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:23 pm
by MAYBL8
dist-upgrade from today.
Typical sid error:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libelf1 : Breaks: libelf1:i386 (!= 0.182+20210203-1.1) but 0.182-3 is installed
 libelf1:i386 : Breaks: libelf1 (!= 0.182-3) but 0.182+20210203-1.1 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:29 pm
by norbert
Same here, borken package ...

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:43 pm
by andyprough
Norbert is taking a job at Fujitsu Research Labs: https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/02/ ... arch-labs/

Best of luck Norbert! I feel a bit sad for him as it sounds like he will be having to deal with some Windows machines. One thing I would note is that Windows 10 runs like chained lightning in a vm on MX if you keep the virtual machine files on an NVMe SSD drive. On my laptop, Windows 10 is noticeably faster on an MX vm than it was in its pre-installed state on the hard drive.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 5:48 pm
by norbert
Thanks Andy!
Yes there is considerable Windows requirements, mostly due to the smart card that is necessary to connect to the VPN. I will surely set up a VM (another) for that ;-)

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:05 am
by SwampRabbit
@andyprough and @MAYBL8

Saw this and figured I'd share in here since its related (kinda)
https://salsa.debian.org/JJRcop-guest/d ... -tightrope

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:16 am
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:05 am @andyprough and @MAYBL8

Saw this and figured I'd share in here since its related (kinda)
https://salsa.debian.org/JJRcop-guest/d ... -tightrope
Looks OK. I use negative numbers for pinning repos when I want to achieve this effect. But the problem with trying to keep an advanced version of plasma running on MX is that you wouldn't just be pinning a couple of repos, you'd be pinning hundreds of individual packages, some of which would be likely to be added or removed from one update to the next. I'm sure that repo wizards like you and Tim that keep MX running could figure it out, but it's beyond me.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:20 am
by SwampRabbit
Tim’s the repo man (wizard) not me.

I ain’t even brave enough to be doing what ya’ll doing in here. :p

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:38 am
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:20 am Tim’s the repo man (wizard) not me.

I ain’t even brave enough to be doing what ya’ll doing in here. :p
You package AHS. If anyone could package an advanced version of plasma and keep it running on stable MX, it would be you.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:45 am
by SwampRabbit
andyprough wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:38 am You package AHS. If anyone could package an advanced version of plasma and keep it running on stable MX, it would be you.
I don't know about that either, I think Stevo is the person for that task too.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:12 am
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:45 am
andyprough wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:38 am You package AHS. If anyone could package an advanced version of plasma and keep it running on stable MX, it would be you.
I don't know about that either, I think Stevo is the person for that task too.
No, backporting every one of the hundreds of packages required for an up-to-date plasma desktop is too big a job for anyone, it wouldn't be fair at all to ask you or Stevo or anyone to do that. It's absolutely amazing what Norbert was able to do by himself to push it along to work on Sid and Testing. He did all the packaging, hosted his own repos, did the bug squashing for a growing community of people that were using his packages. He's been doing the work of a whole large team this past year. It's a very good thing that the Debian KDE team has finally started working together with him these past few months.

I think that if it is simply a matter of writing an apt pinning file for the hundreds of plasma packages for /etc/apt/preferences.d and keeping it up to date against Norbert's repos, and that MX could update that file through the normal apt update process, then eventually I or Dan could do that. I think we've proven through this experiment on this thread that it's possible to cautiously and painstakingly keep a plasma desktop up to date on MX 19, without breaking anything essential. This assumes several things, including the idea that Norbert or the Debian KDE team will want to continue to package the latest plasma packages. I'm not sure Norbert's going to be interested in continuing to do that over the long run. Maybe the Debian KDE folks will decide they want to keep up with the most recent packages in Sid/Testing.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:24 am
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:28 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:24 am

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.78.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
I noticed Norbert was blogging about that yesterday: https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/02/ ... 021-02-18/

He listed the following repos in the blog post in order to continue getting the latest plasma releases:

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma521/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2012/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:01 pm
by MAYBL8
Yeah I only have the 2012 one right now.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 8:08 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:01 pm Yeah I only have the 2012 one right now.
I'm thinking you might stop getting all the updates unless you enable the other OBS repos, since Debian Bullseye has gone into a freeze and Debian's KDE group may not update the Unstable packages until after Debian 11 is released this summer. But I'm not certain.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:51 pm
by norbert
Yes, the testing and unstable repos remain more or less closed. One can get the newer stuff (framework 5.79 and plasma 5.21) from experimental or my OBS repos, they are (should be) the same (besides the version number.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.20.5 Sid Respin (UNSUPPORTED - extremely experimental)

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:21 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:51 pm Yes, the testing and unstable repos remain more or less closed. One can get the newer stuff (framework 5.79 and plasma 5.21) from experimental or my OBS repos, they are (should be) the same (besides the version number.
Yes, I think I will stick with your OBS repos, as I've had more problems with Experimental.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:44 pm
by andyprough
A new MX-KDE 5.21 Sid Respin ISO has been posted here: https://mega.nz/folder/SBlQHZCL#Z2oH5THPkz95-JJsDq2gxA
Passwords are the same as the MX Live ISO: demo/demo, root/root
If networking does not work, try 'sudo NetworkManager'
This respin is experimental and for testing purposes only - do not install it on a disk where you have important data. Please backup your data before letting this respin touch your machine in any way.

The repos being used now are as follows:

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deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma521/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2012/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
What does not work: MX Package Installer, KDE "Discover" Software center (not sure why). I have not checked all the MX tools, some others may not be working.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:44 am
by MAYBL8
After changing to Norbert repos:

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.79.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:40 am
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 Hey Dan, try my respin on a live usb if you get a second. Want to see if it gives you any trouble.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:52 pm
by MAYBL8
I have it on a live-usb. What specifically would you want me to test out.
Just launched it and changed the settings for my Display. This laptop has trouble with persistence . That has nothing to do with the test you want.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:18 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:52 pm I have it on a live-usb. What specifically would you want me to test out.
Just launched it and changed the settings for my Display. This laptop has trouble with persistence . That has nothing to do with the test you want.
Just wanted to see if it started up for you, see if graphics and networking worked, or if you saw any obvious showstopping bugs. I've tried it on a couple of machines but hadn't heard any other feedback. I'm hoping that networking works better on this version than on the last version of the respin.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:33 pm
by MAYBL8
Before I tried it I ran sudo NetworkManager so I'm not sure if i needed to or not.
Next time I restart I'll see if it works without having to run that.
I've tried a few MX Tools and so far so good. I am running the live-usb kernel updater right now.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:34 pm
by MAYBL8

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Snapshot created on: 20210220_1520
System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.8.0-3-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht nosplash menus 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.21.0 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM Distro: MX-19.3_KDE_x64 patito feo November 11 2020 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid 
Machine:   Type: Convertible System: HP product: HP Spectre x360 Convertible 15-df1xxx v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: 
           type: 31 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: HP model: 863F v: 54.23 serial: <filter> UEFI: AMI v: F.22 date: 06/01/2020 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 72.8 Wh condition: 72.8/72.8 Wh (100%) volts: 13.1/11.6 model: HP Primary type: Li-ion 
           serial: <filter> status: Full cycles: 129 
           Device-1: hid-0018:04F3:2992.0002-battery model: ELAN2514:00 04F3:2992 serial: N/A charge: N/A status: N/A 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-10510U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 model-id: 8E (142) 
           stepping: C (12) microcode: CA L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 36799 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 400/4900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800 8: 800 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: TSX disabled 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel CometLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
           chip ID: 8086:9b41 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX250] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: N/A bus ID: 3b:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1d13 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa compositor: kwin_x11 
           resolution: 3840x2160~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (CML GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.4 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP cAVS vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: sof-audio-pci bus ID: 00:1f.3 
           chip ID: 8086:02c8 
           Device-2: DisplayLink Dell Universal Dock D6000 type: USB driver: cdc_ncm,snd-usb-audio bus ID: 4-1.1:3 
           chip ID: 17e9:6006 serial: <filter> 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.8.0-3-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 4000 bus ID: 00:14.3 chip ID: 8086:02f0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: usb0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 939.01 GiB used: 4.35 GiB (0.5%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 512 B 
           logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> rev: 2B2QEXM7 scheme: GPT 
           ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB model: N/A size: 7.50 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> 
           rev: 2.00 scheme: MBR 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 12.16 GiB used: 1.49 GiB (12.2%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102 
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 16.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache pressure: 100 (default) 
           dev: /dev/nvme0n1p9 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma521/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2012/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Info:      Processes: 234 Uptime: 1h 35m Memory: 15.28 GiB used: 3.07 GiB (20.1%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 
           default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36 
Video Tweaks:
Detected possible Hybrid Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:43 pm
by norbert
I'm building Plasma 5.21.1 now, if all goes well it should be ready in experimental as well as OSC later today (JST time).

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:41 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:33 pm Before I tried it I ran sudo NetworkManager so I'm not sure if i needed to or not.
Next time I restart I'll see if it works without having to run that.
I've tried a few MX Tools and so far so good. I am running the live-usb kernel updater right now.
Ok thank you, sounds like it's progressing towards a bit more stability. Yes let me know your experience with networking if you can. I'm especially interested to see if networking connects and disconnects repeatedly.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:50 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:43 pm I'm building Plasma 5.21.1 now, if all goes well it should be ready in experimental as well as OSC later today (JST time).
I tried to backport Okular from Bullseye for MX yesterday, and it was a huge dependency mess. For some reason dozens of packages are required to be an exact package version number, and it's not the latest testing version. I figured I must be going about it all wrong, and if I asked you maybe there's an easier way to do it. I'm using pbuilder with the Bullseye Okular sources, and had to try to get about 675 dependencies in local_repo. Once I saw the cascading problem of dozens of packages, maybe hundreds, demanding a lower version number, I gave up for the time being. Let me know if there's an easier and smarter way to go about it.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:09 am
by MAYBL8
I updated to the 5.21.1 and my sddm is broken. I can get to a login screen that has sddm errors on it and then enter my username and password and end up with a blank screen.
Working out how to fix that.
I may just reinstall and start again.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:22 am
by norbert
Hmmm nothing changed in that area... so I'm really surprised

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:18 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:09 am I updated to the 5.21.1 and my sddm is broken. I can get to a login screen that has sddm errors on it and then enter my username and password and end up with a blank screen.
Working out how to fix that.
I may just reinstall and start again.
I had the exact same problem when I installed the slim login manager on antiX Sid yesterday. Something is broken with Sid right now it would seem.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:38 am
by tony37
andyprough wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:18 amSomething is broken with Sid right now it would seem.
sorry for stating the obvious, but that's exactly why it's called Sid ;)

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:26 pm
by andyprough
tony37 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:38 am sorry for stating the obvious, but that's exactly why it's called Sid ;)
I remember wanting to punch Sid in the face the first time I saw that movie. :hitonhead:

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:43 pm
by MAYBL8
All good now.

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sudo apt-get install kde-standard
I guess i wasn't paying attention as I should have and uninstalled something.
Not sure what just moving on .

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:08 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:43 pm All good now.

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sudo apt-get install kde-standard
I guess i wasn't paying attention as I should have and uninstalled something.
Not sure what just moving on .
I got a bunch of PAM updates on Sid today, which help control login authentication. If PAM was broken with the last update that could be what was preventing you from logging in, I think.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 3:09 am
by norbert
So I am running SID and I don't see all these problems ... thus it might be a combination of stuff specific to MX Linux.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:27 pm
by MAYBL8
I installed the MX bullseye apt-notifier and did a update and it worked. I haven't tested everything with it.
Since I am on SID and not testing it might have some differences.

I would like to use it in a Dock . I have plank running but don't know how to make it show up. So i added a panel so I could see it.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:03 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:27 pm I installed the MX bullseye apt-notifier and did a update and it worked. I haven't tested everything with it.
Since I am on SID and not testing it might have some differences.

I would like to use it in a Dock . I have plank running but don't know how to make it show up. So i added a panel so I could see it.
Can you share a screenshot Dan?

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:16 am
by MAYBL8
I downloaded it from this post:
viewtopic.php?f=86&t=63309

I don't know what tool to use to give you a screen capture from this system.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:28 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 10:16 am I downloaded it from this post:
viewtopic.php?f=86&t=63309

I don't know what tool to use to give you a screen capture from this system.
Should be ksnapshot 'spectacle' on KDE. Works pretty good.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:03 am
by MAYBL8
Image

Is it possible to get this to show up in a plank dock?

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:06 am
by asqwerth
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 11:03 am Image

Is it possible to get this to show up in a plank dock?
What do you wish to show up? The MX-updater notification icon?

From what I understand, Plank is a dock for launchers, not notification icons. So you will get the normal app launcher icon for the mx-updater app, ie a green-filled box, not the notification icon which changes depending on whether there are updates or not.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:47 am
by kc1di
Latte dock is the equivalent dock for Plasma - Plank is more suited to GTK install like XFCE.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:48 am
by MAYBL8
I will try the Latte dock.
I have seen some docks that show a separate area for items that would appear in a task bar. Maybe Latte does that.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Yes I was wanting the apt-notifier in the dock to show if it had updates and launch it from there.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 5:50 am
by kc1di
Let us know how you make out with it.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:05 pm
by MAYBL8
Looks like a big update today:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  accountwizard akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-contacts-data akonadi-mime-data akonadi-server akonadiconsole akregator analitza-common ark artikulate blinken
  bomber bovo cantor dolphin dragonplayer ffmpegthumbs filelight granatier gwenview iso-codes juk k3b k3b-data kaccounts-providers kaddressbook kalarm
  kalgebra kalgebra-common kalzium kalzium-data kamera kapman kate kate5-data katomic kblackbox kblocks kbounce kbreakout kbruch kcalc kcharselect
  kcolorchooser kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron kde-config-mailtransport kde-spectacle kdeconnect kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data kdegames-card-data-kf5
  kdegames-mahjongg-data-kf5 kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdepim-runtime kdf kdialog kdiamond keditbookmarks kf5-messagelib-data kfind kfourinline kgeography
  kgeography-data kget kgoldrunner kgpg khangman khelpcenter kig kigo killbots kio-audiocd kio-extras kio-extras-data kio-ldap kiriki kiten kjumpingcube
  kleopatra klettres klettres-data klickety klines kmahjongg kmail kmines kmplot knavalbattle knetwalk knights knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint konqueror
  konquest konsole konsole-kpart konsolekalendar kontact korganizer kpat krdc kreversi krfb kruler kshisen ksirk ksnakeduel kspaceduel ksquares ksudoku
  ksystemlog ktexteditor-data ktexteditor-katepart ktimer ktouch ktouch-data ktuberling ktuberling-data kturtle kubrick kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite
  libanalitza8 libanalitzagui8 libanalitzaplot8 libanalitzawidgets8 libarchive13 libastro1 libcantorlibs28 libdolphinvcs5 libk3b7 libkaccounts2
  libkeduvocdocument5 libkf5akonadi-data libkf5akonadiagentbase5 libkf5akonadicalendar-data libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1 libkf5akonadicontact5
  libkf5akonadicore5abi2 libkf5akonadimime5 libkf5akonadinotes5 libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2 libkf5akonadisearch-bin libkf5akonadisearch-data
  libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5 libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 libkf5akonadiwidgets5abi1
  libkf5akonadixml5 libkf5alarmcalendar-data libkf5alarmcalendar5abi1 libkf5baloowidgets-bin libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5calendarsupport-data
  libkf5calendarsupport5abi1 libkf5calendarutils5 libkf5cddb5 libkf5compactdisc5 libkf5contacteditor5 libkf5eventviews-data libkf5eventviews5abi1
  libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5grantleetheme5 libkf5gravatar-data libkf5gravatar5abi2 libkf5identitymanagement5 libkf5imap-data libkf5imap5
  libkf5incidenceeditor-data libkf5incidenceeditor5abi1 libkf5kdcraw5 libkf5kdegames7 libkf5kdegamesprivate1 libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0 libkf5kipi-data
  libkf5kipi32.0.0 libkf5kmahjongglib5 libkf5kmanagesieve5 libkf5konq6 libkf5kontactinterface-data libkf5kontactinterface5 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5
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Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:23 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:05 pm Looks like a big update today:
Looks to me like everything is ready to upgrade to 5.21.2: https://download.opensuse.org/repositor ... _Unstable/

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:05 pm
by MAYBL8
Before the last few updates and when I changed to the new npreining repos I could get this info from a link on the settings page.
I don't have that link anymore. I think some package needs installed but I don't know which one it is.

Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.79.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:52 pm
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 - do you have ksysguard installed?

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:56 am
by MAYBL8
Installed it and logged out and back in and still don't see it . It was at the bottom of system settings as I remember.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:10 am
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 - OK, I see, it's called 'kinfocenter' on my KDE Sid respin. See if you have that in your repo.
Here's the Sid download location for it if you need it: https://packages.debian.org/sid/kinfocenter

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:13 am
by baldyeti
It appears ksysguard has been replaced by "System Monitor", which leaves dedoimedo unimpressed ;-)

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:30 pm
by MAYBL8
that's what it was.
I wonder what else I am missing?

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.80.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 9:08 pm
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 - If you want to figure out what you are missing, then install Synaptic, and use the Search tool to search for terms like "KDE" and "Plasma". Synaptic has a little button that just says "S" right next to the word "Package" in its column headers (see my picture). Click on the "S", and it will show you all of the installed packages first. Then you can scroll down and see which are not yet installed, and if any of them look like something you might need.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:34 pm
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.80.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:22 pm
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 - did you see @norbert has a new Plasma blog post up today? https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/04/ ... 021-04-07/

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:13 pm
by MAYBL8
Just read it. Looks good.
My unstable is still pretty stable.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:34 pm
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.81.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:15 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:34 pm

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.81.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics
New KDE Frameworks version. These are the same version numbers as KDE Neon, so Norbert and the Debian KDE devs are keeping pace so far.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:04 pm
by MAYBL8
I noticed when I close the lid on this laptop which forces the computer to suspend that when I open the laptop back up I can ping ip addresses on the internet but I can't get to websites. I think somehow I lose DNS. If I ping www.something.com I don't get a response and none of the web pages in the browser responds. When I reboot everything is back.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sat May 01, 2021 9:41 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:04 pm I noticed when I close the lid on this laptop which forces the computer to suspend that when I open the laptop back up I can ping ip addresses on the internet but I can't get to websites. I think somehow I lose DNS. If I ping www.something.com I don't get a response and none of the web pages in the browser responds. When I reboot everything is back.
I've lost networking a lot too, although not while suspending or hibernating, as I don't do those. Usually I try killing the NetworkManager process and restarting it with sudo NetworkManager. You might try looking through the tlpui program to see if there is any power setting for suspend that would be of use to try adjusting. If you don't have tlpui installed then just sudo apt install tlpui, and then you can start it from the command line with tlpui or find it in the main menu. Its options are very well documented at https://linrunner.de/tlp/

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 9:41 am
by MAYBL8
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.81.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 11:55 am
by MAYBL8
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.21.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.82.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:57 am
by norbert
Hi all
today Plasma 5.22 was released and as usual the builds (as well as KDE Gear (Apps) 21.04 etc) are my OBS builds.
Details: https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/06/ ... or-debian/

Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.82.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.12.9+ (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
Memory: 62.8 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:56 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:57 am Hi all
today Plasma 5.22 was released and as usual the builds (as well as KDE Gear (Apps) 21.04 etc) are my OBS builds.
Details: https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/06/ ... or-debian/

Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.82.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.12.9+ (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
Memory: 62.8 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
I came here to comment about your new blog post and KDE 5.22, but you beat me to it Norbert. For Dan or anyone else using Norbert's repos, you are going to need to update them as follows in order to get all the new KDE goodies (details in Norbert's blog post):

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2104/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
Any news you can share on when Debian 11 is likely to land Norbert?

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:21 pm
by norbert
Probably

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
is also necessary to ensure the availability of recent enough plasma-wayland-protocols and qalculate stuff - or use Debian/experimental.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:22 am
by danielson
Updated link on initial post maybe...

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:03 am
by andyprough
danielson wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:22 am Updated link on initial post maybe...
OK I did it. That first post has been updated so many times now it's taken on a life of its own. It's like raising a child. :happybday:

I wonder how many people have tried to follow those instructions? One? None? 10? We have some readers who don't speak up, it's hard to say, maybe a couple more people are using franken-MX-KDE-Sid as their daily driver. It would be fun to gather any available testimonials one of these days.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:28 am
by baldyeti
Running Plasma5 on a Commodore 64 sure is impressive ;-)

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:48 am
by andyprough
baldyeti wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:28 am Running Plasma5 on a Commodore 64 sure is impressive ;-)
Just wait till I get it running on the old TRS-80 with 4kb of ram. Just need a hammer and chisel to fit it in there... :killcomputer:

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:04 pm
by MAYBL8
Upgraded as shown below.
One issue not sure what it is yet is my latte dock is not working correctly.
Getting this error:
Cannot assign to non-existent property "toolTipItem

Might have nothing to do with KDE , might be SID. Still investigating.

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.83.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:19 pm
by norbert
latte dock doesn't work nicely with Plasma 5.22 at the moment. A new version is released upstream but not packaged by now. Thanks for the reminder, I will try to put it into the "other" repo

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.21 Sid Experimental Respin (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:26 pm
by danielson
andyprough wrote: Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:03 am
danielson wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:22 am Updated link on initial post maybe...
OK I did it. That first post has been updated so many times now it's taken on a life of its own. It's like raising a child. :happybday:

I wonder how many people have tried to follow those instructions? One? None? 10? We have some readers who don't speak up, it's hard to say, maybe a couple more people are using franken-MX-KDE-Sid as their daily driver. It would be fun to gather any available testimonials one of these days.
If it's of any consolation... have started with Plasma 5.21 - busy with lawn mowing these days...

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:56 pm
by norbert
norbert wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:19 pm latte dock doesn't work nicely with Plasma 5.22 at the moment. A new version is released upstream but not packaged by now. Thanks for the reminder, I will try to put it into the "other" repo
Now updated and available in

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other
repo.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:05 pm
by MAYBL8
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.2
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.83.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 12:04 am
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:05 pm Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
How interesting...

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:29 pm
by MAYBL8
Not sure why it says that except I am on SID.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:22 pm
by norbert
Came in recently with the preparation for Bullseye

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:16 pm
by MAYBL8
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.3
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.84.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:40 pm
by MAYBL8
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.84.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:27 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:40 pm KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.4
@norbert is charging pretty far ahead now. Bullseye and Sid are stuck on 5.20.5-4. I have a bad feeling that Bullseye is going to be several major versions behind again by next spring, and will fall farther and farther behind again. Too bad Norbert's repos can't be added to a Debian stable base, without the extreme workaround I laid out in the first post in this thread.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 12:30 pm
by dolphin_oracle
I would have thought the slowing down of open-source Qt support would have allowed later versions of KDE/plasma to be backported more easily, but maybe not.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:51 pm
by norbert
@andyprough the problem with bullseye is that it got frozen months ago, before the release of 5.21, so we couldn't get 5.21 in. As soon as bullseye is released (mid August) uploads to unstable and transition to the new testing of 5.22 will begin.

Concerning the backport: current stable has a too old Qt, so no way to backport. I will provide builds for *bullseye* as long as possible (that is, as long as Plasma doesn't switch to Qt6, but that is far off).

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 11:45 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:51 pm @andyprough the problem with bullseye is that it got frozen months ago, before the release of 5.21, so we couldn't get 5.21 in. As soon as bullseye is released (mid August) uploads to unstable and transition to the new testing of 5.22 will begin.

Concerning the backport: current stable has a too old Qt, so no way to backport. I will provide builds for *bullseye* as long as possible (that is, as long as Plasma doesn't switch to Qt6, but that is far off).
Oh right, I didn't think about that - your backports still work on Bullseye!!

I wonder if MX could incorporate your backports into MX 21? @dolphin_oracle ??

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:00 am
by norbert
Yes, bullseye (current testing) should and will be supported as long as possible.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:20 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:00 am Yes, bullseye (current testing) should and will be supported as long as possible.
Oh wow, it's installing without issue on MX 21 beta right now for me. No weird contortions required - just add the repos and the gpg key and go. Screenshots coming...

Why did I not think of this before?? I've been spending too much time customizing my DWM setup.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:37 am
by norbert
andyprough wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:20 am Oh wow, it's installing without issue on MX 21 beta right now for me. No weird contortions required - just add the repos and the gpg key and go. Screenshots coming...
That was like this since the very beginning ... all the time I provided repos for testing=bullseye ... ;-)

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:42 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:37 am
andyprough wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:20 am Oh wow, it's installing without issue on MX 21 beta right now for me. No weird contortions required - just add the repos and the gpg key and go. Screenshots coming...
That was like this since the very beginning ... all the time I provided repos for testing=bullseye ... ;-)
Yes, of course, and I've used it on testing myself. I just was not thinking for some reason that means we are good to go on MX 21.

Anyway, it works! Just take the MX 21 beta, add norbert's repos and gpg key per post #1 in this thread, sudo apt update, and install the "KDE5 Standard" desktop from MX Package Installer - Popular Apps tab - Desktop Environments section.

Need to tell neofetch that this is MX, not Debian. And I need to update the thread title, update the instructions in post #1, and maybe put up a new MX 21 Plasma 5.22.4 beta respin.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:06 am
by norbert
Great too hear!

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:11 am
by MAYBL8
Unless I am mis reading something that will work as long as "Bullseye" is considered "testing". Once it leaves testing and becomes stable MX-21 won't get KDE updates that norbert has.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 am
by SwampRabbit
A potential downside to using Norbert’s repos is any conflicts with Qt packages in the Stable Bullseye, especially building any of the ones we do for users. We don’t want to jump to these repos and find out we have long term issues with non-KDE packages in a Stable Bullseye. Remember Debian supports all packages, not just the KDE specific ones.

Norbert would know if this could be a problem really or not, but for the Stable MX-KDE, I’d prefer to stick with the KDE in Bullseye to reduce any headaches.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:33 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:11 am Unless I am mis reading something that will work as long as "Bullseye" is considered "testing". Once it leaves testing and becomes stable MX-21 won't get KDE updates that norbert has.
I don't think it will matter - norbert just uses "testing" as part of his repo name. From what he said yesterday, he "will provide builds for *bullseye* as long as possible (that is, as long as Plasma doesn't switch to Qt6, but that is far off)." So, since Bullseye will soon be stable, I would assume there's no problem with his repos continuing to work on it.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:37 pm
by andyprough
SwampRabbit wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:56 am A potential downside to using Norbert’s repos is any conflicts with Qt packages in the Stable Bullseye, especially building any of the ones we do for users. We don’t want to jump to these repos and find out we have long term issues with non-KDE packages in a Stable Bullseye. Remember Debian supports all packages, not just the KDE specific ones.

Norbert would know if this could be a problem really or not, but for the Stable MX-KDE, I’d prefer to stick with the KDE in Bullseye to reduce any headaches.
Yup, and it's very late to switch just prior to the MX21 launch, and it's really not in keeping with MX's philosophy of providing the stable base PLUS other stuff. I was thinking that maybe MX could make all of norbert's stuff available as a big backport meta-update, subject to testing and so forth. Similar to how the newer LibreOffice stuff is made available as a backport meta-update, only in this case it would be much bigger.

Re: MX Modified - MX KDE 5.22 Using Sid Repos (UNSUPPORTED)

Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2021 7:11 pm
by norbert
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:11 am Unless I am mis reading something that will work as long as "Bullseye" is considered "testing". Once it leaves testing and becomes stable MX-21 won't get KDE updates that norbert has.
No, that is not the intention. I will continue building for bullseye even after it was released. I only mentioned that bullseye is the current testing to make clear that I cannot support the **current** stable (buster).

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:58 am
by MAYBL8
Guys I am having an issue with my laptop. I thought I would post it here since I am on experimental and dev's won't help.
It seems that when I close the lid on my laptop, after I open it back up DNS is not working. I can ping an ip address but web pages won't load.
I have done some research but can't come up with anything.
Thanks
Dan

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System:    Host: <filter> Kernel: 5.10.0-1-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-1-amd64 root=UUID=<filter> 
           ro quiet splash model=hp model=laptop modprobe.nouveau=0 "acpi_osi=!Windows 2017" 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.22.4 tk: Qt 5.15.2 info: latte-dock wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
           Distro: MX-19.4_KDE_x64 patito feo November 11 2020 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Convertible System: HP product: HP Spectre x360 Convertible 15-df1xxx v: N/A 
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 31 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: HP model: 863F v: 54.24 serial: <filter> UEFI: AMI v: F.25 date: 04/01/2021 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 51.5 Wh condition: 67.2/67.2 Wh (100%) volts: 12.2/11.6 model: HP Primary 
           type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown cycles: 157 
           Device-1: hid-0018:04F3:2992.0001-battery model: ELAN2514:00 04F3:2992 serial: N/A charge: N/A 
           status: N/A 
           Device-2: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M325 serial: <filter> 
           charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: Discharging 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-10510U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Kaby Lake family: 6 
           model-id: 8E (142) stepping: C (12) microcode: EA L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 36799 
           Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 400/4900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 799 5: 800 6: 800 
           7: 799 8: 799 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds mitigation: TSX disabled 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel CometLake-U GT2 [UHD Graphics] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:9b41 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX250] vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nvidia v: 470.57.02 
           bus ID: 3b:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1d13 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,nouveau,vesa 
           alternate: nv compositor: kwin_x11 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (CML GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP cAVS vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:02c8 
           Device-2: DisplayLink Dell Universal Dock D6000 type: USB driver: cdc_ncm,snd-usb-audio 
           bus ID: 4-1.1:3 chip ID: 17e9:6006 serial: <filter> 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.0-1-amd64 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Comet Lake PCH-LP CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 4000 bus ID: 00:14.3 
           chip ID: 8086:02f0 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           IF-ID-1: usb0 state: up speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 213.46 GiB (22.9%) 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> rev: 2B2QEXM7 
           scheme: GPT 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 40.00 GiB size: 39.12 GiB (97.81%) used: 11.95 GiB (30.5%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 
           ID-2: /home raw size: 564.57 GiB size: 554.71 GiB (98.25%) used: 201.44 GiB (36.3%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/nvme0n1p7 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 16.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 15 (default 60) 
           cache pressure: 100 (default) dev: /dev/nvme0n1p9 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 58.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/anydesk-stable.list 
           1: deb http://deb.anydesk.com/ all main
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:stevenpusser:QCAD.list 
           1: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser:/QCAD/Debian_Unstable/ /
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster main non-free
           2: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2104/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
           1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ buster ahs-staging
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list 
           1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:      Processes: 277 Uptime: 1h 33m Memory: 15.28 GiB used: 3.05 GiB (20.0%) Init: systemd v: 241 
           runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10/8 Shell: quick-system-in 
           running in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.0.36

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:20 pm
by asqwerth
You can't be using mx21 beta if your mx repos are buster?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:39 pm
by andyprough
asqwerth wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:20 pm You can't be using mx21 beta if your mx repos are buster?
He doesn't need mx21 beta, he knows how to run Norbert's KDE packages with the MX Buster repos.

It's hard to do though. Not surprising that he's having the networking issue. Networking is usually the first thing that goes out for me. @MAYBL8, have you been able to re-establish your network connection through the normal method of killing the NetworkManager process and re-starting it?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:06 pm
by MAYBL8
No killing the process doesn't work if you mean running :
sudo service NetworkManager restart.

Only restarting the laptop seems to work.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:33 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:06 pm No killing the process doesn't work if you mean running :
sudo service NetworkManager restart.

Only restarting the laptop seems to work.
No, you have to run 'ps -A | grep Net' (or something like that), find the NetworkManager process ID number, then 'sudo kill -KILL [processID#]'. Then do a 'sudo NetworkManager start'. Trying it with restart never worked for me. And even finding and killing the process and starting from scratch didn't work all the time.

But then again, I don't ever use hybernate or close the laptop lid, so you are working in territory I have not explored at all. What I have done on all my machines is use the tlpui program to set networking so that it is not ever put to sleep. My big problems have come when the wifi card on my Asus laptop would be put to sleep by some power management utility.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:46 pm
by asqwerth
andyprough wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:39 pm
asqwerth wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:20 pm You can't be using mx21 beta if your mx repos are buster?
He doesn't need mx21 beta, he knows how to run Norbert's KDE packages with the MX Buster repos.

It's hard to do though. Not surprising that he's having the networking issue. Networking is usually the first thing that goes out for me. @MAYBL8, have you been able to re-establish your network connection through the normal method of killing the NetworkManager process and re-starting it?
Look at the title of his thread now. He's changed it to say he's using plasma 5.22 on mx21 beta. He's not, I think. Just pointing it out based on his qsi.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:04 am
by andyprough
asqwerth wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 10:46 pm
andyprough wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:39 pm
asqwerth wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 12:20 pm You can't be using mx21 beta if your mx repos are buster?
He doesn't need mx21 beta, he knows how to run Norbert's KDE packages with the MX Buster repos.

It's hard to do though. Not surprising that he's having the networking issue. Networking is usually the first thing that goes out for me. @MAYBL8, have you been able to re-establish your network connection through the normal method of killing the NetworkManager process and re-starting it?
Look at the title of his thread now. He's changed it to say he's using plasma 5.22 on mx21 beta. He's not, I think. Just pointing it out based on his qsi.
That's because I changed the title and the content of the first post in this thread to reflect that the KDE packages now run on MX21 beta. When he starts a new post, then it reflects the edited title of the first post. It's a funny quirk of the forum's software.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:43 am
by MAYBL8
Sorry that didn't work either.
Also when I killed the process it started up on its own, thought that was curious.
Only reboot got it working again.

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$ ps -A | grep Net
  861 ?        00:00:01 NetworkManager
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo kill -KILL 861
[sudo] password for dcihon: 
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ ps -A | grep Net
 3893 ?        00:00:00 NetworkManager
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo NetworkManager start
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ ps -A | grep Net
 3893 ?        00:00:00 NetworkManager
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:19 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 7:43 am Sorry that didn't work either.
Also when I killed the process it started up on its own, thought that was curious.
Only reboot got it working again.
What's your version of NetworkManager? I wonder if your system pulled in a newer version to support some KDE 5.22 packages?

Are you using the Debian unstable repo to provide your required dependencies?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:32 pm
by MAYBL8

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dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$   Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
^C
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ apt list network-manager
Listing... Done
network-manager/unstable,now 1.30.0-2 amd64 [installed]
network-manager/unstable 1.30.0-2 i386

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:26 pm
by andyprough
I got a strange error today when running 'apt upgrade':

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E: Failed to fetch https://widehat.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Testing/amd64/plasma-desktop_5.22.4-1~np1_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:343d869e6ed1a63925b7a12c9b54704d0bb25c4653566af0cc3ebcaa4fbee4ab
    - SHA1:4197498272485f222056e967db99f2fc165e495c [weak]
    - MD5Sum:dccf8d3f5d5671eedfc0a1c165ced279 [weak]
    - Filesize:1032636 [weak]
   Hashes of received file:
    - SHA256:0949183902a774d399e38e5bfeea380059b5863586b3b9860b730e26eac46625
    - SHA1:1edb421edb3bd45c162eb2b3b895af33a4d09a60 [weak]
    - MD5Sum:9101191919f7cc5d31abf0e9bc18cc66 [weak]
    - Filesize:1032636 [weak]
   Last modification reported: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 15:12:04 +0000
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
Don't think I've ever seen this kind of an error message with apt before. apt recommended I run the command again with a "--fix-missing" tag on the end. That worked, although it appears to have simply caused apt to accept and install the package with the mismatched hash.

EDIT - I was wrong. Running the command with "--fix-missing" allowed all the rest of the upgraded packages to be installed, but plasma-desktop still gets the mismatched hash error and refuses to upgrade. Running "apt clean" or "apt-get clean" do not fix it.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:01 pm
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.85.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2021 12:01 pm
by andyprough
Big update from @norbert on his blog today: https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/08/ ... 021-08-18/

He posts lots of information on the progress of moving the various plasma, frameworks, and "gears" packages into the current Debian Experimental and Unstable repos.

If you want to continue accessing the very latest packages directly from Norbert's OBS repos, you'll still be able to do that.

Depending on your setup, you may need to update your OBS repos to access these latest packages.

OBS repos for systems running Debian Sid [Unstable] currently reside at:

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Unstable/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
OBS repos for systems running Debian Testing ("Bookworm") are the same, but change out the word "Unstable" for "Testing".

If you are running the newest KDE packages on Bullseye, you will need an extra repo called "other-deps", and your OBS repos will look like:

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Testing/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Testing/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Testing/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Testing/ ./
deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Testing/ ./
A final note on the page warns:
Expect continued breakage of the next weeks until the upload storm subsides a bit.
I'm assuming that he's referring to the Debian Experimental, Unstable, and Testing packages as those get uploaded. I don't think this warning probably applies to the normal OBS repos. Now that we can move the OBS repos to the stable Bullseye branch, we should actually see fewer problems (I think/hope).

[Note - the above message will probably be confusing to some people to read because of all the different repos that are being discussed. If you are reading this message and you are confused, that means you are probably not the target audience and should probably not try installing these updated KDE packages. As always - this is experimental and completely unsupported. As always - back up all your data before you add any repos and try anything experimental, so that you don't make a mess of things and lose data somehow.]

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:05 pm
by MAYBL8
Looks like I might have several issues today:

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dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo apt-get update      
Get:1 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster InRelease [19.9 kB]
Hit:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease                                                                                              
Hit:3 http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo buster InRelease                                                                                                      
Ign:4 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease                                                                                             
Hit:5 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release                                                                                               
Hit:6 http://deb.anydesk.com all InRelease                                                           
Get:7 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main i386 Packages [427 kB]                   
Hit:8 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser:/QCAD/Debian_Unstable  InRelease           
Get:9 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 Packages [433 kB]                           
Get:10 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main i386 Contents (deb) [3,320 kB]
Hit:12 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:13 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:14 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Get:15 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 Contents (deb) [3,329 kB]
Hit:16 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:17 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Get:18 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/non-free amd64 Packages [35.3 kB]      
Get:19 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/non-free i386 Packages [33.1 kB]
Get:20 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/non-free i386 Contents (deb) [14.7 kB]
Get:21 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/non-free amd64 Contents (deb) [18.0 kB]
Get:22 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/ahs i386 Packages [193 kB]
Get:23 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/ahs amd64 Packages [202 kB]
Get:24 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/ahs amd64 Contents (deb) [2,996 kB]
Get:25 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/ahs i386 Contents (deb) [3,417 kB]
Fetched 14.4 MB in 3s (5,622 kB/s)                                        
Reading package lists... Done
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  cryptsetup-run libalkimia5-7 libaqbanking-data libaqbanking44 libcmis-0.5-5v5 libgwengui-qt5-79 libgwenhywfar-data libgwenhywfar79 libkchart2
  libkchart2-l10n libkf5torrent6abi1 libkf5webkit5 libkpimgapidrive5 libllvm11 libllvm11:i386 libofx7 libosp5 libqrcodegencpp1 librest-0.7-0
  libsqlcipher0 libstrictures-perl libxdamage1:i386 libxmlb1
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kde-full kdeutils kgpg kio-gdrive kmymoney libavresample4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libhandy-1-0 libicu67:i386 libidn12 libkf5torrent6abi2 libllvm12 libllvm12:i386 liblzma5:i386 libxml2:i386 libxmlb2 libzimg2 libzxingcore1
  rpcsvc-proto
The following packages have been kept back:
  step vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
The following packages will be upgraded:
  accountwizard adwaita-icon-theme akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-contacts-data akonadi-mime-data akonadi-server akonadiconsole akregator anacron
  analitza-common ark artikulate base-files blinken bomber bovo bsdextrautils bsdutils bubblewrap busybox cantor coinor-libcoinutils3v5 cpio
  cryptsetup cryptsetup-bin cryptsetup-initramfs cryptsetup-run dconf-editor debianutils deborphan dictionaries-common dmidecode dolphin
  dolphin-plugins dragonplayer e2fsprogs eject elinks elisa fdisk ffmpegthumbs filelight firefox firmware-amd-graphics firmware-atheros firmware-bnx2
  firmware-bnx2x firmware-brcm80211 firmware-intel-sound firmware-intelwimax firmware-ipw2x00 firmware-iwlwifi firmware-libertas firmware-linux
  firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree firmware-myricom firmware-netxen firmware-qlogic firmware-realtek fonts-opensymbol fwupd ghostscript
  ghostscript-x gir1.2-freedesktop gir1.2-glib-2.0 glib-networking glib-networking-common glib-networking-services gnome-keyring gnome-keyring-pkcs11
  granatier gwenview hunspell-en-gb hyphen-en-gb ifupdown juk k3b k3b-data kaccounts-integration kaccounts-providers kaddressbook kaddressbook-data
  kalarm kalgebra kalgebra-common kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kapman kate kate5-data katomic kblackbox kblocks kbounce kbreakout kbruch
  kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron kde-config-mailtransport kde-spectacle kdeconnect kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data
  kdegames-card-data-kf5 kdegames-mahjongg-data-kf5 kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdenetwork-filesharing kdepim-runtime kdf kdialog kdiamond
  keditbookmarks kf5-messagelib-data kfind kfourinline kgeography kgeography-data kget kgoldrunner khangman khelpcenter kig kigo killbots kio-audiocd
  kio-extras kio-extras-data kio-ldap kiriki kiten kjumpingcube kleopatra klettres klettres-data klickety klines kmahjongg kmail
  kmailtransport-akonadi kmines kmplot kmymoney-common knavalbattle knetwalk knights knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint konqueror konquest konsole
  konsole-kpart konsolekalendar kontact korganizer kpat krdc kreversi krfb kruler kshisen ksirk ksnakeduel ksnip kspaceduel ksquares ksudoku
  ksystemlog ktimer ktorrent ktorrent-data ktouch ktouch-data ktuberling ktuberling-data kturtle kubrick kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite libanalitza8
  libanalitzagui8 libanalitzaplot8 libanalitzawidgets8 libasound2 libasound2-data libasound2-plugins libassuan0 libastro1 libatopology2 libavcodec58
  libavfilter7 libavformat58 libavutil56 libblkid1 libbpf0 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc-l10n libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dev libcantorlibs28 libcfitsio9
  libcolorcorrect5 libcom-err2 libcom-err2:i386 libcryptsetup12 libdatetime-format-strptime-perl libdeflate0 libdolphinvcs5 libdrm-amdgpu1
  libdrm-amdgpu1:i386 libdrm-common libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-nouveau2:i386 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2
  libdrm2:i386 libdv4 libdvdnav4 libdvdread8 libegl-mesa0 libegl1-mesa libext2fs2 libfdisk1 libfwupd2 libfwupdplugin1 libgbm1 libgirepository-1.0-1
  libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-bin libglib2.0-data libglx-mesa0
  libglx-mesa0:i386 libgpg-error0 libgpg-error0:i386 libgpgme11 libgpgmepp6 libgs9 libgudev-1.0-0 libio-socket-ssl-perl libk3b7 libkaccounts2
  libkcolorpicker0 libkeduvocdocument5 libkf5akonadi-data libkf5akonadiagentbase5 libkf5akonadicalendar-data libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1
  libkf5akonadicontact5 libkf5akonadicore5abi2 libkf5akonadimime5 libkf5akonadinotes5 libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2 libkf5akonadisearch-bin
  libkf5akonadisearch-data libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5
  libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 libkf5akonadiwidgets5abi1 libkf5akonadixml5 libkf5alarmcalendar-data libkf5alarmcalendar5abi1 libkf5baloowidgets-bin
  libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5calendarsupport-data libkf5calendarsupport5abi1 libkf5calendarutils5 libkf5cddb5 libkf5compactdisc5 libkf5contacteditor5
  libkf5eventviews-data libkf5eventviews5abi1 libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5grantleetheme5 libkf5gravatar-data libkf5gravatar5abi2
  libkf5identitymanagement5 libkf5imap-data libkf5imap5 libkf5incidenceeditor-data libkf5incidenceeditor5abi1 libkf5kdcraw5 libkf5kdegames7
  libkf5kdegamesprivate7 libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0 libkf5kipi-data libkf5kipi32.0.0 libkf5kmahjongglib5 libkf5kmanagesieve5 libkf5konq6
  libkf5kontactinterface-data libkf5kontactinterface5 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5 libkf5ksieveui5 libkf5ldap-data libkf5ldap5abi1
  libkf5libkdepim-data libkf5libkdepim5 libkf5libkleo-data libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailcommon-data libkf5mailcommon5abi2 libkf5mailimporter5
  libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5mailtransport5 libkf5mailtransportakonadi5 libkf5mbox5 libkf5messagecomposer5abi1 libkf5messagecore5abi1
  libkf5messagelist5abi1 libkf5messageviewer5abi1 libkf5mime-data libkf5mime5abi1 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1 libkf5pimcommon-data libkf5pimcommon5abi2
  libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1 libkf5pimtextedit-data libkf5pimtextedit5abi2 libkf5sane-data libkf5sane5 libkf5templateparser5 libkf5tnef5
  libkf5webengineviewer5abi1 libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkimageannotator-common libkimageannotator0 libkpimaddressbookimportexport5
  libkpimgapi-data libkpimgapicalendar5 libkpimgapicontacts5 libkpimgapicore5abi1 libkpimgapidrive5 libkpimgapitasks5 libkpimsmtp5abi1 libkpmcore11
  libktorrent-l10n libkworkspace5-5 liblibreoffice-java libmarblewidget-qt5-28 libmatroska7 libmoo-perl libmount1 libmtp-common libmtp-runtime
  libmtp9 libnotificationmanager1 libokular5core9 libopenmpt-modplug1 libopenmpt0 libpam-gnome-keyring libpangomm-1.4-1v5
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpostproc55 libproc-processtable-perl libqgpgme7 libqmobipocket2 libqt5qml5 libqt5qmlmodels5
  libqt5qmlworkerscript5 libqt5quick5 libqt5quickcontrols2-5 libqt5quickparticles5 libqt5quickshapes5 libqt5quicktemplates2-5 libqt5quicktest5
  libqt5quickwidgets5 libqt5webengine-data libqt5webengine5 libqt5webenginecore5 libqt5webenginewidgets5 libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
  libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk3
  libreoffice-help-common libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
  libreoffice-style-breeze libreoffice-style-colibre libreoffice-writer libsane-common libsane1 libsasl2-modules-kdexoauth2 libsmartcols1 libss2
  libswresample3 libswscale5 libtaskmanager6abi1 libtirpc-common libtirpc-dev libtirpc3 libtirpc3:i386 libuno-cppu3 libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3
  libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3 libuno-sal3 libuno-salhelpergcc3-3 libunoloader-java libupower-glib3 libuuid1 libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common
  libweather-ion7 libxatracker2 libzbar0 locales logsave lskat lskat-data mailcap marble marble-data marble-plugins marble-qt-data mesa-va-drivers
  mesa-vdpau-drivers mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 minuet minuet-data mlocate mount mythes-en-us netcat-traditional okular okular-extra-backends
  openssh-client palapeli palapeli-data parley parley-data partitionmanager picmi plasma-desktop plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-data plocate
  print-manager python3-distro python3-gi python3-gi-cairo python3-ptyprocess python3-pycurl qml-module-org-kde-analitza qml-module-org-kde-charts
  qml-module-org-kde-games-core qml-module-org-kde-kaccounts qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel qml-module-qt-labs-platform
  qml-module-qt-labs-settings qml-module-qtqml qml-module-qtqml-models2 qml-module-qtqml-statemachine qml-module-qtquick-controls2
  qml-module-qtquick-layouts qml-module-qtquick-particles2 qml-module-qtquick-shapes qml-module-qtquick-templates2 qml-module-qtquick-window2
  qml-module-qtquick2 qml-module-qtwebengine qt5-qmltooling-plugins qtdeclarative5-dev qtdeclarative5-dev-tools rfkill rocs rpcbind rpl rsyslog
  sane-utils sddm-theme-breeze sddm-theme-debian-breeze signon-kwallet-extension simple-scan sweeper uno-libs-private upower ure ure-java usbutils
  util-linux virtualbox-ext-pack vivaldi-stable vpnc-scripts x11-common xfsprogs xkb-data xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-video-all xutils yakuake
522 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 6 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,033 kB/1,032 MB of archives.
After this operation, 254 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-desktop 4:5.22.4-1~np1 [1,033 kB]
Err:1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-desktop 4:5.22.4-1~np1
  File has unexpected size (1032636 != 1032932). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:20eb72f3d90c1c07a5623700f5f4cf2e478fa28cb7f252cd428e1dcd3b27257a
   - SHA1:220da94a9606d1a8a7533b7abd8cf4fc28314a0c [weak]
   - MD5Sum:ceb4b3a1bac2c7eb4c870cdce71a25da [weak]
   - Filesize:1032932 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/plasma-desktop_5.22.4-1~np1_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (1032636 != 1032932). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:20eb72f3d90c1c07a5623700f5f4cf2e478fa28cb7f252cd428e1dcd3b27257a
    - SHA1:220da94a9606d1a8a7533b7abd8cf4fc28314a0c [weak]
    - MD5Sum:ceb4b3a1bac2c7eb4c870cdce71a25da [weak]
    - Filesize:1032932 [weak]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:09 pm
by Eadwine Rose
There is a KDE beta 1 out now, check the announcements: viewtopic.php?f=131&t=66088

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:38 pm
by andyprough
Eadwine Rose wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:09 pm There is a KDE beta 1 out now, check the announcements: viewtopic.php?f=131&t=66088
Excellent! We will be doing a little bit of hacking on this beta. See if we break anything if we point it at the newest KDE repos. Pretty soon we should be able to create the first stable MX respin in years and years that has the latest KDE fresh off the presses. Might not have had a spin like this since the Mepis days.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:42 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:05 pm Looks like I might have several issues today:

Code: Select all

dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo apt-get update      
Get:1 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster InRelease [19.9 kB]
Hit:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease                                                                                              
Hit:3 http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo buster InRelease                                                                                                      
Ign:4 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable InRelease                                                                                             
Hit:5 http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb stable Release                                                                                               
Hit:6 http://deb.anydesk.com all InRelease                                                           
Get:7 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main i386 Packages [427 kB]                   
Hit:8 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser:/QCAD/Debian_Unstable  InRelease           
Get:9 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 Packages [433 kB]                           
Get:10 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main i386 Contents (deb) [3,320 kB]
Hit:12 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:13 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:14 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Get:15 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/main amd64 Contents (deb) [3,329 kB]
Hit:16 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:17 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Get:18 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/non-free amd64 Packages [35.3 kB]      
Get:19 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/non-free i386 Packages [33.1 kB]
Get:20 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/non-free i386 Contents (deb) [14.7 kB]
Get:21 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/non-free amd64 Contents (deb) [18.0 kB]
Get:22 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/ahs i386 Packages [193 kB]
Get:23 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/ahs amd64 Packages [202 kB]
Get:24 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/ahs amd64 Contents (deb) [2,996 kB]
Get:25 http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/mx/repo buster/ahs i386 Contents (deb) [3,417 kB]
Fetched 14.4 MB in 3s (5,622 kB/s)                                        
Reading package lists... Done
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  cryptsetup-run libalkimia5-7 libaqbanking-data libaqbanking44 libcmis-0.5-5v5 libgwengui-qt5-79 libgwenhywfar-data libgwenhywfar79 libkchart2
  libkchart2-l10n libkf5torrent6abi1 libkf5webkit5 libkpimgapidrive5 libllvm11 libllvm11:i386 libofx7 libosp5 libqrcodegencpp1 librest-0.7-0
  libsqlcipher0 libstrictures-perl libxdamage1:i386 libxmlb1
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kde-full kdeutils kgpg kio-gdrive kmymoney libavresample4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libhandy-1-0 libicu67:i386 libidn12 libkf5torrent6abi2 libllvm12 libllvm12:i386 liblzma5:i386 libxml2:i386 libxmlb2 libzimg2 libzxingcore1
  rpcsvc-proto
The following packages have been kept back:
  step vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
The following packages will be upgraded:
  accountwizard adwaita-icon-theme akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-contacts-data akonadi-mime-data akonadi-server akonadiconsole akregator anacron
  analitza-common ark artikulate base-files blinken bomber bovo bsdextrautils bsdutils bubblewrap busybox cantor coinor-libcoinutils3v5 cpio
  cryptsetup cryptsetup-bin cryptsetup-initramfs cryptsetup-run dconf-editor debianutils deborphan dictionaries-common dmidecode dolphin
  dolphin-plugins dragonplayer e2fsprogs eject elinks elisa fdisk ffmpegthumbs filelight firefox firmware-amd-graphics firmware-atheros firmware-bnx2
  firmware-bnx2x firmware-brcm80211 firmware-intel-sound firmware-intelwimax firmware-ipw2x00 firmware-iwlwifi firmware-libertas firmware-linux
  firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree firmware-myricom firmware-netxen firmware-qlogic firmware-realtek fonts-opensymbol fwupd ghostscript
  ghostscript-x gir1.2-freedesktop gir1.2-glib-2.0 glib-networking glib-networking-common glib-networking-services gnome-keyring gnome-keyring-pkcs11
  granatier gwenview hunspell-en-gb hyphen-en-gb ifupdown juk k3b k3b-data kaccounts-integration kaccounts-providers kaddressbook kaddressbook-data
  kalarm kalgebra kalgebra-common kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kapman kate kate5-data katomic kblackbox kblocks kbounce kbreakout kbruch
  kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron kde-config-mailtransport kde-spectacle kdeconnect kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data
  kdegames-card-data-kf5 kdegames-mahjongg-data-kf5 kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdenetwork-filesharing kdepim-runtime kdf kdialog kdiamond
  keditbookmarks kf5-messagelib-data kfind kfourinline kgeography kgeography-data kget kgoldrunner khangman khelpcenter kig kigo killbots kio-audiocd
  kio-extras kio-extras-data kio-ldap kiriki kiten kjumpingcube kleopatra klettres klettres-data klickety klines kmahjongg kmail
  kmailtransport-akonadi kmines kmplot kmymoney-common knavalbattle knetwalk knights knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint konqueror konquest konsole
  konsole-kpart konsolekalendar kontact korganizer kpat krdc kreversi krfb kruler kshisen ksirk ksnakeduel ksnip kspaceduel ksquares ksudoku
  ksystemlog ktimer ktorrent ktorrent-data ktouch ktouch-data ktuberling ktuberling-data kturtle kubrick kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite libanalitza8
  libanalitzagui8 libanalitzaplot8 libanalitzawidgets8 libasound2 libasound2-data libasound2-plugins libassuan0 libastro1 libatopology2 libavcodec58
  libavfilter7 libavformat58 libavutil56 libblkid1 libbpf0 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc-l10n libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dev libcantorlibs28 libcfitsio9
  libcolorcorrect5 libcom-err2 libcom-err2:i386 libcryptsetup12 libdatetime-format-strptime-perl libdeflate0 libdolphinvcs5 libdrm-amdgpu1
  libdrm-amdgpu1:i386 libdrm-common libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-nouveau2:i386 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2
  libdrm2:i386 libdv4 libdvdnav4 libdvdread8 libegl-mesa0 libegl1-mesa libext2fs2 libfdisk1 libfwupd2 libfwupdplugin1 libgbm1 libgirepository-1.0-1
  libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-bin libglib2.0-data libglx-mesa0
  libglx-mesa0:i386 libgpg-error0 libgpg-error0:i386 libgpgme11 libgpgmepp6 libgs9 libgudev-1.0-0 libio-socket-ssl-perl libk3b7 libkaccounts2
  libkcolorpicker0 libkeduvocdocument5 libkf5akonadi-data libkf5akonadiagentbase5 libkf5akonadicalendar-data libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1
  libkf5akonadicontact5 libkf5akonadicore5abi2 libkf5akonadimime5 libkf5akonadinotes5 libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2 libkf5akonadisearch-bin
  libkf5akonadisearch-data libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5
  libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 libkf5akonadiwidgets5abi1 libkf5akonadixml5 libkf5alarmcalendar-data libkf5alarmcalendar5abi1 libkf5baloowidgets-bin
  libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5calendarsupport-data libkf5calendarsupport5abi1 libkf5calendarutils5 libkf5cddb5 libkf5compactdisc5 libkf5contacteditor5
  libkf5eventviews-data libkf5eventviews5abi1 libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5grantleetheme5 libkf5gravatar-data libkf5gravatar5abi2
  libkf5identitymanagement5 libkf5imap-data libkf5imap5 libkf5incidenceeditor-data libkf5incidenceeditor5abi1 libkf5kdcraw5 libkf5kdegames7
  libkf5kdegamesprivate7 libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0 libkf5kipi-data libkf5kipi32.0.0 libkf5kmahjongglib5 libkf5kmanagesieve5 libkf5konq6
  libkf5kontactinterface-data libkf5kontactinterface5 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5 libkf5ksieveui5 libkf5ldap-data libkf5ldap5abi1
  libkf5libkdepim-data libkf5libkdepim5 libkf5libkleo-data libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailcommon-data libkf5mailcommon5abi2 libkf5mailimporter5
  libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5mailtransport5 libkf5mailtransportakonadi5 libkf5mbox5 libkf5messagecomposer5abi1 libkf5messagecore5abi1
  libkf5messagelist5abi1 libkf5messageviewer5abi1 libkf5mime-data libkf5mime5abi1 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1 libkf5pimcommon-data libkf5pimcommon5abi2
  libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1 libkf5pimtextedit-data libkf5pimtextedit5abi2 libkf5sane-data libkf5sane5 libkf5templateparser5 libkf5tnef5
  libkf5webengineviewer5abi1 libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkimageannotator-common libkimageannotator0 libkpimaddressbookimportexport5
  libkpimgapi-data libkpimgapicalendar5 libkpimgapicontacts5 libkpimgapicore5abi1 libkpimgapidrive5 libkpimgapitasks5 libkpimsmtp5abi1 libkpmcore11
  libktorrent-l10n libkworkspace5-5 liblibreoffice-java libmarblewidget-qt5-28 libmatroska7 libmoo-perl libmount1 libmtp-common libmtp-runtime
  libmtp9 libnotificationmanager1 libokular5core9 libopenmpt-modplug1 libopenmpt0 libpam-gnome-keyring libpangomm-1.4-1v5
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpostproc55 libproc-processtable-perl libqgpgme7 libqmobipocket2 libqt5qml5 libqt5qmlmodels5
  libqt5qmlworkerscript5 libqt5quick5 libqt5quickcontrols2-5 libqt5quickparticles5 libqt5quickshapes5 libqt5quicktemplates2-5 libqt5quicktest5
  libqt5quickwidgets5 libqt5webengine-data libqt5webengine5 libqt5webenginecore5 libqt5webenginewidgets5 libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
  libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk3
  libreoffice-help-common libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
  libreoffice-style-breeze libreoffice-style-colibre libreoffice-writer libsane-common libsane1 libsasl2-modules-kdexoauth2 libsmartcols1 libss2
  libswresample3 libswscale5 libtaskmanager6abi1 libtirpc-common libtirpc-dev libtirpc3 libtirpc3:i386 libuno-cppu3 libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3
  libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3 libuno-sal3 libuno-salhelpergcc3-3 libunoloader-java libupower-glib3 libuuid1 libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common
  libweather-ion7 libxatracker2 libzbar0 locales logsave lskat lskat-data mailcap marble marble-data marble-plugins marble-qt-data mesa-va-drivers
  mesa-vdpau-drivers mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 minuet minuet-data mlocate mount mythes-en-us netcat-traditional okular okular-extra-backends
  openssh-client palapeli palapeli-data parley parley-data partitionmanager picmi plasma-desktop plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-data plocate
  print-manager python3-distro python3-gi python3-gi-cairo python3-ptyprocess python3-pycurl qml-module-org-kde-analitza qml-module-org-kde-charts
  qml-module-org-kde-games-core qml-module-org-kde-kaccounts qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel qml-module-qt-labs-platform
  qml-module-qt-labs-settings qml-module-qtqml qml-module-qtqml-models2 qml-module-qtqml-statemachine qml-module-qtquick-controls2
  qml-module-qtquick-layouts qml-module-qtquick-particles2 qml-module-qtquick-shapes qml-module-qtquick-templates2 qml-module-qtquick-window2
  qml-module-qtquick2 qml-module-qtwebengine qt5-qmltooling-plugins qtdeclarative5-dev qtdeclarative5-dev-tools rfkill rocs rpcbind rpl rsyslog
  sane-utils sddm-theme-breeze sddm-theme-debian-breeze signon-kwallet-extension simple-scan sweeper uno-libs-private upower ure ure-java usbutils
  util-linux virtualbox-ext-pack vivaldi-stable vpnc-scripts x11-common xfsprogs xkb-data xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-video-all xutils yakuake
522 upgraded, 12 newly installed, 6 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,033 kB/1,032 MB of archives.
After this operation, 254 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-desktop 4:5.22.4-1~np1 [1,033 kB]
Err:1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-desktop 4:5.22.4-1~np1
  File has unexpected size (1032636 != 1032932). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:20eb72f3d90c1c07a5623700f5f4cf2e478fa28cb7f252cd428e1dcd3b27257a
   - SHA1:220da94a9606d1a8a7533b7abd8cf4fc28314a0c [weak]
   - MD5Sum:ceb4b3a1bac2c7eb4c870cdce71a25da [weak]
   - Filesize:1032932 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/plasma-desktop_5.22.4-1~np1_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (1032636 != 1032932). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:20eb72f3d90c1c07a5623700f5f4cf2e478fa28cb7f252cd428e1dcd3b27257a
    - SHA1:220da94a9606d1a8a7533b7abd8cf4fc28314a0c [weak]
    - MD5Sum:ceb4b3a1bac2c7eb4c870cdce71a25da [weak]
    - Filesize:1032932 [weak]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$
Yeah, looks like your repos are all over the place, I can't follow them anymore. I see a bunch of buster i386 stuff in there and some Sid stuff and some buster AHS stuff. Looks like a highly flammable brew.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:20 pm
by MAYBL8
Yeah I have neglected them. I will clean things up and see where that takes me.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:54 pm
by MAYBL8
Cleaned things up and still have some issues:

Code: Select all

$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
dci

Code: Select all

$ sudo apt-get update      
Hit:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease
Hit:2 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:3 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:5 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Hit:6 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable ./ InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  cryptsetup-run libalkimia5-7 libaqbanking-data libaqbanking44 libcmis-0.5-5v5 libgwengui-qt5-79 libgwenhywfar-data libgwenhywfar79 libkchart2
  libkchart2-l10n libkf5torrent6abi1 libkf5webkit5 libkpimgapidrive5 libllvm11 libllvm11:i386 libofx7 libosp5 libplacebo72 libqrcodegencpp1
  libsqlcipher0 libstrictures-perl libxdamage1:i386 libxmlb1
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kde-full kdeutils kgpg kio-gdrive kmymoney libavresample4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libhandy-1-0 libicu67:i386 libidn12 libkf5torrent6abi2 libllvm12 libllvm12:i386 liblzma5:i386 libplacebo120 libxml2:i386 libxmlb2 libzimg2
  libzxingcore1 rpcsvc-proto
The following packages have been kept back:
  step
The following packages will be upgraded:
  accountwizard adwaita-icon-theme akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-contacts-data akonadi-mime-data akonadi-server akonadiconsole akregator anacron
  analitza-common ark artikulate base-files blinken bomber bovo bsdextrautils bsdutils bubblewrap busybox cantor coinor-libcoinutils3v5 cpio
  cryptsetup cryptsetup-bin cryptsetup-initramfs cryptsetup-run dconf-editor debianutils deborphan dictionaries-common dmidecode dolphin
  dolphin-plugins dragonplayer e2fsprogs eject elinks elisa fdisk ffmpegthumbs filelight firmware-amd-graphics firmware-atheros firmware-bnx2
  firmware-bnx2x firmware-brcm80211 firmware-intel-sound firmware-intelwimax firmware-ipw2x00 firmware-iwlwifi firmware-libertas firmware-linux
  firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree firmware-myricom firmware-netxen firmware-qlogic firmware-realtek fonts-opensymbol fwupd ghostscript
  ghostscript-x gir1.2-freedesktop gir1.2-glib-2.0 glib-networking glib-networking-common glib-networking-services gnome-keyring gnome-keyring-pkcs11
  granatier gwenview hunspell-en-gb hyphen-en-gb ifupdown juk k3b k3b-data kaccounts-integration kaccounts-providers kaddressbook kaddressbook-data
  kalarm kalgebra kalgebra-common kalzium kalzium-data kamera kanagram kapman kate kate5-data katomic kblackbox kblocks kbounce kbreakout kbruch
  kcalc kcharselect kcolorchooser kde-config-cddb kde-config-cron kde-config-mailtransport kde-spectacle kdeconnect kdeedu-data kdeedu-kvtml-data
  kdegames-card-data-kf5 kdegames-mahjongg-data-kf5 kdegraphics-thumbnailers kdenetwork-filesharing kdepim-runtime kdf kdialog kdiamond
  keditbookmarks kf5-messagelib-data kfind kfourinline kgeography kgeography-data kget kgoldrunner khangman khelpcenter kig kigo killbots kio-audiocd
  kio-extras kio-extras-data kio-ldap kiriki kiten kjumpingcube kleopatra klettres klettres-data klickety klines kmahjongg kmail
  kmailtransport-akonadi kmines kmplot kmymoney-common knavalbattle knetwalk knights knotes kolf kollision kolourpaint konqueror konquest konsole
  konsole-kpart konsolekalendar kontact korganizer kpat krdc kreversi krfb kruler kshisen ksirk ksnakeduel ksnip kspaceduel ksquares ksudoku
  ksystemlog ktimer ktorrent ktorrent-data ktouch ktouch-data ktuberling ktuberling-data kturtle kubrick kwalletmanager kwordquiz kwrite libanalitza8
  libanalitzagui8 libanalitzaplot8 libanalitzawidgets8 libasound2 libasound2-data libasound2-plugins libassuan0 libastro1 libatopology2 libavcodec58
  libavfilter7 libavformat58 libavutil56 libblkid1 libbpf0 libc-bin libc-dev-bin libc-l10n libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dev libcantorlibs28 libcfitsio9
  libcolorcorrect5 libcom-err2 libcom-err2:i386 libcryptsetup12 libdatetime-format-strptime-perl libdeflate0 libdolphinvcs5 libdrm-amdgpu1
  libdrm-amdgpu1:i386 libdrm-common libdrm-intel1 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-nouveau2:i386 libdrm-radeon1 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2
  libdrm2:i386 libdv4 libdvdnav4 libdvdread8 libegl-mesa0 libegl1-mesa libext2fs2 libfdisk1 libfwupd2 libfwupdplugin1 libgbm1 libgirepository-1.0-1
  libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-bin libglib2.0-data libglx-mesa0
  libglx-mesa0:i386 libgpg-error0 libgpg-error0:i386 libgpgme11 libgpgmepp6 libgs9 libgudev-1.0-0 libio-socket-ssl-perl libk3b7 libkaccounts2
  libkcolorpicker0 libkeduvocdocument5 libkf5akonadi-data libkf5akonadiagentbase5 libkf5akonadicalendar-data libkf5akonadicalendar5abi1
  libkf5akonadicontact5 libkf5akonadicore5abi2 libkf5akonadimime5 libkf5akonadinotes5 libkf5akonadiprivate5abi2 libkf5akonadisearch-bin
  libkf5akonadisearch-data libkf5akonadisearch-plugins libkf5akonadisearchcore5 libkf5akonadisearchdebug5 libkf5akonadisearchpim5
  libkf5akonadisearchxapian5 libkf5akonadiwidgets5abi1 libkf5akonadixml5 libkf5alarmcalendar-data libkf5alarmcalendar5abi1 libkf5baloowidgets-bin
  libkf5baloowidgets5 libkf5calendarsupport-data libkf5calendarsupport5abi1 libkf5calendarutils5 libkf5cddb5 libkf5compactdisc5 libkf5contacteditor5
  libkf5eventviews-data libkf5eventviews5abi1 libkf5grantleetheme-plugins libkf5grantleetheme5 libkf5gravatar-data libkf5gravatar5abi2
  libkf5identitymanagement5 libkf5imap-data libkf5imap5 libkf5incidenceeditor-data libkf5incidenceeditor5abi1 libkf5kdcraw5 libkf5kdegames7
  libkf5kdegamesprivate7 libkf5kexiv2-15.0.0 libkf5kipi-data libkf5kipi32.0.0 libkf5kmahjongglib5 libkf5kmanagesieve5 libkf5konq6
  libkf5kontactinterface-data libkf5kontactinterface5 libkf5ksieve-data libkf5ksieve5 libkf5ksieveui5 libkf5ldap-data libkf5ldap5abi1
  libkf5libkdepim-data libkf5libkdepim5 libkf5libkleo-data libkf5libkleo5 libkf5mailcommon-data libkf5mailcommon5abi2 libkf5mailimporter5
  libkf5mailtransport-data libkf5mailtransport5 libkf5mailtransportakonadi5 libkf5mbox5 libkf5messagecomposer5abi1 libkf5messagecore5abi1
  libkf5messagelist5abi1 libkf5messageviewer5abi1 libkf5mime-data libkf5mime5abi1 libkf5mimetreeparser5abi1 libkf5pimcommon-data libkf5pimcommon5abi2
  libkf5pimcommonakonadi5abi1 libkf5pimtextedit-data libkf5pimtextedit5abi2 libkf5sane-data libkf5sane5 libkf5templateparser5 libkf5tnef5
  libkf5webengineviewer5abi1 libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkimageannotator-common libkimageannotator0 libkpimaddressbookimportexport5
  libkpimgapi-data libkpimgapicalendar5 libkpimgapicontacts5 libkpimgapicore5abi1 libkpimgapidrive5 libkpimgapitasks5 libkpimsmtp5abi1 libkpmcore11
  libktorrent-l10n libkworkspace5-5 liblibreoffice-java libmarblewidget-qt5-28 libmatroska7 libmoo-perl libmount1 libmtp-common libmtp-runtime
  libmtp9 libnotificationmanager1 libokular5core9 libopenmpt-modplug1 libopenmpt0 libpam-gnome-keyring libpangomm-1.4-1v5
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpostproc55 libproc-processtable-perl libqgpgme7 libqmobipocket2 libqt5qml5 libqt5qmlmodels5
  libqt5qmlworkerscript5 libqt5quick5 libqt5quickcontrols2-5 libqt5quickparticles5 libqt5quickshapes5 libqt5quicktemplates2-5 libqt5quicktest5
  libqt5quickwidgets5 libqt5webengine-data libqt5webengine5 libqt5webenginecore5 libqt5webenginewidgets5 libreoffice-base libreoffice-base-core
  libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk3
  libreoffice-help-common libreoffice-help-en-us libreoffice-impress libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
  libreoffice-style-breeze libreoffice-style-colibre libreoffice-writer libsane-common libsane1 libsasl2-modules-kdexoauth2 libsmartcols1 libss2
  libswresample3 libswscale5 libtaskmanager6abi1 libtirpc-common libtirpc-dev libtirpc3 libtirpc3:i386 libuno-cppu3 libuno-cppuhelpergcc3-3
  libuno-purpenvhelpergcc3-3 libuno-sal3 libuno-salhelpergcc3-3 libunoloader-java libupower-glib3 libuuid1 libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common
  libweather-ion7 libxatracker2 libzbar0 locales logsave lskat lskat-data mailcap marble marble-data marble-plugins marble-qt-data mesa-va-drivers
  mesa-vdpau-drivers mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 minuet minuet-data mlocate mount mythes-en-us netcat-traditional okular okular-extra-backends
  openssh-client palapeli palapeli-data parley parley-data partitionmanager picmi plasma-desktop plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-data plocate
  print-manager python3-distro python3-gi python3-gi-cairo python3-ptyprocess python3-pycurl qml-module-org-kde-analitza qml-module-org-kde-charts
  qml-module-org-kde-games-core qml-module-org-kde-kaccounts qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel qml-module-qt-labs-platform
  qml-module-qt-labs-settings qml-module-qtqml qml-module-qtqml-models2 qml-module-qtqml-statemachine qml-module-qtquick-controls2
  qml-module-qtquick-layouts qml-module-qtquick-particles2 qml-module-qtquick-shapes qml-module-qtquick-templates2 qml-module-qtquick-window2
  qml-module-qtquick2 qml-module-qtwebengine qt5-qmltooling-plugins qtdeclarative5-dev qtdeclarative5-dev-tools rfkill rocs rpcbind rpl rsyslog
  sane-utils sddm-theme-breeze sddm-theme-debian-breeze signon-kwallet-extension simple-scan sweeper uno-libs-private upower ure ure-java usbutils
  util-linux virtualbox-ext-pack vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output vpnc-scripts x11-common xfsprogs xkb-data xorg xserver-xorg
  xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all xutils yakuake
523 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 6 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,033 kB/891 MB of archives.
After this operation, 261 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-desktop 4:5.22.4-1~np1 [1,033 kB]
Err:1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-desktop 4:5.22.4-1~np1
  File has unexpected size (1032636 != 1032932). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:20eb72f3d90c1c07a5623700f5f4cf2e478fa28cb7f252cd428e1dcd3b27257a
   - SHA1:220da94a9606d1a8a7533b7abd8cf4fc28314a0c [weak]
   - MD5Sum:ceb4b3a1bac2c7eb4c870cdce71a25da [weak]
   - Filesize:1032932 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/plasma-desktop_5.22.4-1~np1_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (1032636 != 1032932). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:20eb72f3d90c1c07a5623700f5f4cf2e478fa28cb7f252cd428e1dcd3b27257a
    - SHA1:220da94a9606d1a8a7533b7abd8cf4fc28314a0c [weak]
    - MD5Sum:ceb4b3a1bac2c7eb4c870cdce71a25da [weak]
    - Filesize:1032932 [weak]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 5:02 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:54 pm Cleaned things up and still have some issues:
I'm also getting the unexpected file size error right now. I'm assuming that means we need to give the obs repos a few hours or a day to catch up to the package sizes that apt is being told that they are supposed to have? You can possibly try to force the upgrade with 'sudo apt upgrade --fix-missing' but that can also lead to other bad problems if that doesn't work.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:21 pm
by norbert
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:05 pm Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
kde-full kdeutils kgpg kio-gdrive kmymoney libavresample4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libhandy-1-0 libicu67:i386 libidn12 libkf5torrent6abi2 libllvm12 libllvm12:i386 liblzma5:i386 libxml2:i386 libxmlb2 libzimg2 libzxingcore1
rpcsvc-proto
The following packages have been kept back:
step vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
To be expected. Some packages need a binnmu to be rebuild against the new version of KDE PIM: step kgpg kmymoney (working on that)

kio-gdrive problem is suprising.

libavresample4 has disappeared from sid, it is deprecated. This **IS** a pain also for me, I have my own rebuilds of ffmpeg including non-free codices etc.
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:05 pm E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repo ... _amd64.deb File has unexpected size (1032636 != 1032932). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
Should be fixed, soon, I just kicked off a rebuild

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:24 am
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 7:21 pmTo be expected. Some packages need a binnmu to be rebuild against the new version of KDE PIM: step kgpg kmymoney (working on that)

kio-gdrive problem is suprising.

libavresample4 has disappeared from sid, it is deprecated. This **IS** a pain also for me, I have my own rebuilds of ffmpeg including non-free codices etc.
MAYBL8 wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 2:05 pm E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repo ... _amd64.deb File has unexpected size (1032636 != 1032932). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
Should be fixed, soon, I just kicked off a rebuild
I'd never heard of a "binnmu" before. Interesting.

I've updated the first post of this thread to reflect the new "Debian_11" repo names for MX21 beta, based on Norbert's new blog post: https://www.preining.info/blog/2021/08/ ... -unstable/
Also, if you are using Testing or Unstable, you'll need to adjust your repo names. Be sure and read the new blog post thoroughly. Looks to me like @MAYBL8 has his Debian_Unstable repos written out correctly with his most recent posts.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:29 am
by norbert
Hmmm, Testing and Unstable should not change anything...?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 10:54 am
by MAYBL8
All cleaned up and back to unstable normal:

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dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  step
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.85.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:19 am
by MAYBL8
Trying to make my google drive work in Dolphin:

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Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kio-gdrive : Depends: libkpimgapicore5-20.08 but it is not installable
              Depends: libkpimgapidrive5-20.08 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:57 am
by norbert
Should be fixed now

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:49 am
by MAYBL8
Not yet:

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$ sudo apt-get install kio-gdrive
[sudo] password for dcihon: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kio-gdrive : Depends: libkpimgapicore5-20.08 but it is not installable
              Depends: libkpimgapidrive5-20.08 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:01 pm
by andyprough
What's the output from

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apt policy libkpimgapicore5
and from

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apt policy libkpimgapicore5abi1
If you try sudo apt --fix-broken install and then sudo apt install kio-gdrive libkpimgapicore5abi1 libkpimgapicore5, what happens?

Edit: The Debian packages page for this package looks messy - those two dependencies show "not available": https://packages.debian.org/sid/kio-gdrive

And when I extract the control file from the kio-gdrive deb, it almost looks to me like there is an error in this control file. It calls for Depends including

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libkpimgapicore5-20.08, libkpimgapicore5abi1 (>= 20.08.3), libkpimgapidrive5 (>= 20.08.3), libkpimgapidrive5-20.08,
, but both libkpimgapicore5 and lipkpimgapidrive5 are supposed to be virtual packages that are provided by ' libkpimgapicore5abi1' and 'libkpimgapidrive5', which are already set to be installed.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 12:42 pm
by MAYBL8
Yeah it looks like I need to wait until it gets updated.

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$ apt policy libkpimgapicore5
N: Unable to locate package libkpimgapicore5
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ sudo apt policy libkpimgapicore5
[sudo] password for dcihon: 
N: Unable to locate package libkpimgapicore5
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ apt policy libkpimgapicore5abi1
libkpimgapicore5abi1:
  Installed: 21.08.0-1
  Candidate: 21.08.0-1
  Version table:
 *** 21.08.0-1 500
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     21.08.0-1~np1 500
        500 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Unstable ./ Packages

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:40 pm
by andyprough
@MAYBL8 - I extracted the control file from the kio-gdrive deb and deleted the reference to libkpimgapicore5 and lipkpimgapidrive5. Then I rebuilt the deb and tried installing it. The program works, but it only offers to sign into an account with "opendesktop.org" - there's no option for a Google sign-in. So I think you are right - have to hope that the Debian Unstable packagers are working on it. I guess you could submit a bug report if it doesn't get fixed soon.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:56 pm
by norbert
I have

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Package: kio-gdrive
Version: 21.08.0-1~np2
Architecture: amd64
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
Installed-Size: 533
Depends: kaccounts-integration, kio, libaccounts-qt5-1 (>= 1.13), libc6 (>= 2.14), libkaccounts2 (>= 4:21.07.80~), libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 4.99.0), libkf5i18n5 (>= 5.71.0~), libkf5kiocore5 (>= 5.71.0~), libkf5kiogui5 (>= 5.74.0), libkf5kiowidgets5 (>= 5.71.0~), libkf5notifications5 (>= 5.71.0~), libkf5widgetsaddons5 (>= 4.96.0), libkpimgapicore5-21.08, libkpimgapicore5abi1 (>= 21.08.0), libkpimgapidrive5 (>= 21.08.0), libkpimgapidrive5-21.08, libqt5core5a (>= 5.15.1), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.7.0) | libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.7.0), libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.2.0~), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1)
Enhances: dolphin
Filename: ./amd64/kio-gdrive_21.08.0-1~np2_amd64.deb
Size: 107932
MD5sum: 6ff614a4d24b8314e32a74308bd37535
SHA1: 8b88bb19d3ffdfdc427f772acf87af34343ad546
SHA256: 1be53087b16735e2a74523d1d8df41256ca579d930f60056013a18536ef4b4ec
Section: kde
Priority: optional
Homepage: https://invent.kde.org/network/kio-gdrive
Description-en: KIO access for GDrive
 KIO GDrive enables KIO-aware applications (such as Dolphin, Kate
 or Gwenview) to access and edit Google Drive files in the cloud.
Description-md5: f5412023114ff968cfc1f7c112157bda
and can install it ...

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:26 pm
by andyprough
norbert wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 6:56 pm I have

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Package: kio-gdrive
Version: 21.08.0-1~np2
Architecture: amd64
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
Installed-Size: 533
Depends: kaccounts-integration, kio, libaccounts-qt5-1 (>= 1.13), libc6 (>= 2.14), libkaccounts2 (>= 4:21.07.80~), libkf5coreaddons5 (>= 4.99.0), libkf5i18n5 (>= 5.71.0~), libkf5kiocore5 (>= 5.71.0~), libkf5kiogui5 (>= 5.74.0), libkf5kiowidgets5 (>= 5.71.0~), libkf5notifications5 (>= 5.71.0~), libkf5widgetsaddons5 (>= 4.96.0), libkpimgapicore5-21.08, libkpimgapicore5abi1 (>= 21.08.0), libkpimgapidrive5 (>= 21.08.0), libkpimgapidrive5-21.08, libqt5core5a (>= 5.15.1), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.7.0) | libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.7.0), libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.2.0~), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1)
Enhances: dolphin
Filename: ./amd64/kio-gdrive_21.08.0-1~np2_amd64.deb
Size: 107932
MD5sum: 6ff614a4d24b8314e32a74308bd37535
SHA1: 8b88bb19d3ffdfdc427f772acf87af34343ad546
SHA256: 1be53087b16735e2a74523d1d8df41256ca579d930f60056013a18536ef4b4ec
Section: kde
Priority: optional
Homepage: https://invent.kde.org/network/kio-gdrive
Description-en: KIO access for GDrive
 KIO GDrive enables KIO-aware applications (such as Dolphin, Kate
 or Gwenview) to access and edit Google Drive files in the cloud.
Description-md5: f5412023114ff968cfc1f7c112157bda
and can install it ...
Wonder why @MAYBL8's system wasn't pulling it from your repo?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:18 pm
by MAYBL8
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:32 pm

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dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$   Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
^C
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ apt list network-manager
Listing... Done
network-manager/unstable,now 1.30.0-2 amd64 [installed]
network-manager/unstable 1.30.0-2 i386
I was doing some research on problems similar to mine and one solution was to check /etc/resolv.conf
I didn't have this file so I created it and put in there
nameserver 8.8.8.8

now it is working.
So my questions is why i didn't have that file.
How would it normally get there and what should be in that file?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:54 pm
by andyprough
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:18 pm
MAYBL8 wrote: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:32 pm

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dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$   Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
^C
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~
$ apt list network-manager
Listing... Done
network-manager/unstable,now 1.30.0-2 amd64 [installed]
network-manager/unstable 1.30.0-2 i386
I was doing some research on problems similar to mine and one solution was to check /etc/resolv.conf
I didn't have this file so I created it and put in there
nameserver 8.8.8.8

now it is working.
So my questions is why i didn't have that file.
How would it normally get there and what should be in that file?
According to the Debian wiki, dhclient is the daemon which most commonly overwrites /etc/resolv.conf. Do you have dhclient installed? Could be that Sid is set up a bit differently in that regard than Debian stable.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:31 am
by MAYBL8

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$ apt policy dhclient
N: Unable to locate package dhclient

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:18 pm
by MAYBL8
Finally got kio-gdrive installed.
I was able to get access to my gdrive once.
I modified a file but it wouldn't upload it back. That has never worked since I have been trying to use it.
Now when I try to load the gdrive it just says loading and never shows anything.
I wanted to setup nextcloud on a server I have here but I have a wordpress with nginx running and was going to add nextcloud to that but it looks more complicated than I have the time for right now to make them both work on the same physical server.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:03 am
by MAYBL8
Getting these errors this morning when trying to update:

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Get:13 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ ksysguard-data 4:5.21.90-1~np2 [451 kB]
Err:13 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ ksysguard-data 4:5.21.90-1~np2
  File has unexpected size (451468 != 451340). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:7add3cfd1242aef6170bd8808136be37c6fe5c50fdb210f8de5037ba8218469d
   - SHA1:cdd651e1f79d4e5e16eda3d28e980572019c928c [weak]
   - MD5Sum:3457cabcc8f0682e6d42cbe2002e38b3 [weak]
   - Filesize:451340 [weak]
Get:18 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ ksysguard 4:5.21.90-1~np2 [183 kB]
Err:18 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ ksysguard 4:5.21.90-1~np2
  File has unexpected size (166940 != 182736). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:00f27df1002b0e48aa2bc042cbcd627b9b0a20efaf0e61faa0ef3a016c2292bd
   - SHA1:c9f0855da9c047c10875b9642bd776b4b002845c [weak]
   - MD5Sum:a5e0fec370ac96ce09ccb0343b42125e [weak]
   - Filesize:182736 [weak]
Fetched 3,627 kB in 3s (1,072 kB/s)
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/all/ksysguard-data_5.21.90-1~np2_all.deb  File has unexpected size (451468 != 451340). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:7add3cfd1242aef6170bd8808136be37c6fe5c50fdb210f8de5037ba8218469d
    - SHA1:cdd651e1f79d4e5e16eda3d28e980572019c928c [weak]
    - MD5Sum:3457cabcc8f0682e6d42cbe2002e38b3 [weak]
    - Filesize:451340 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/ksysguard_5.21.90-1~np2_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (166940 != 182736). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:00f27df1002b0e48aa2bc042cbcd627b9b0a20efaf0e61faa0ef3a016c2292bd
    - SHA1:c9f0855da9c047c10875b9642bd776b4b002845c [weak]
    - MD5Sum:a5e0fec370ac96ce09ccb0343b42125e [weak]
    - Filesize:182736 [weak]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
When I try to change the repo through MX Tools Repo manager I get the error:
Could not change the repo.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 10:47 am
by norbert
ksysguard is gone, no need to install it anymore. THere might be a version rebased on the current code base of libksysguard, but the standard way is now ksystemstat.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:01 pm
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.85.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:12 am
by MAYBL8
Still having these errors:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  breeze-gtk-theme plasma-desktop plasma-discover plasma-discover-backend-flatpak plasma-workspace
5 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,382 kB of archives.
After this operation, 10.1 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ breeze-gtk-theme 5.22.5-1~np1 [217 kB]
Err:1 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ breeze-gtk-theme 5.22.5-1~np1
  File has unexpected size (236328 != 217152). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:f748da19142634713d16dc2996248cff0d047c0a92a7515cdc548da15cfe011f
   - SHA1:6277837c4966fa25810fe5b43f45aa85ebbd6696 [weak]
   - MD5Sum:0c73f8d5afe420b0a7dce210de477921 [weak]
   - Filesize:217152 [weak]
Get:2 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-workspace 4:5.22.5-1~np4 [2,554 kB]
Err:2 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-workspace 4:5.22.5-1~np4
  File has unexpected size (2555732 != 2553808). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:71a7d93478fb883abcbc9e5362a684bb5c94443627131fccd87bc3e7425948e3
   - SHA1:c18c5694753974dba5d679f1b43c3e9e7e54363b [weak]
   - MD5Sum:e6e14bb511fabc545c44bec3f16968c6 [weak]
   - Filesize:2553808 [weak]
Get:3 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-desktop 4:5.22.5-1~np1 [1,107 kB]
Err:3 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-desktop 4:5.22.5-1~np1
  File has unexpected size (1107772 != 1107460). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:ecec87e0de162578162fa12a0197d76af0187f0ab9ef6fd7d79ca122993f1b75
   - SHA1:57bcf94a60e8c775df306daee80e7fb5593844c6 [weak]
   - MD5Sum:481b135a385d30b32bc54b4f1d5c1b05 [weak]
   - Filesize:1107460 [weak]
Get:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-discover-backend-flatpak 5.22.5-1~np1 [86.7 kB]
Err:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-discover-backend-flatpak 5.22.5-1~np1
  File has unexpected size (86572 != 86708). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:7966a1a417493ff19abcf70335ca78c4d5d8b9aa3b700b242aa3e44b52fc3ae8
   - SHA1:5b74581134fc2e11ccc36ddc31dec05b7002dffd [weak]
   - MD5Sum:503d61491fc242463b7efbc661c07f1f [weak]
   - Filesize:86708 [weak]
Get:5 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-discover 5.22.5-1~np1 [416 kB]
Err:5 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable ./ plasma-discover 5.22.5-1~np1
  File has unexpected size (417960 != 416388). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
  Hashes of expected file:
   - SHA256:abbfb1979502feb410fcb4582844db6bc7143bede04eef2a0a474454c5b934b8
   - SHA1:16dd5c108f4874ece9706c41192a8470b97c2665 [weak]
   - MD5Sum:e58390c97b98679ff4d93460e54cc8fc [weak]
   - Filesize:416388 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/breeze-gtk-theme_5.22.5-1~np1_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (236328 != 217152). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:f748da19142634713d16dc2996248cff0d047c0a92a7515cdc548da15cfe011f
    - SHA1:6277837c4966fa25810fe5b43f45aa85ebbd6696 [weak]
    - MD5Sum:0c73f8d5afe420b0a7dce210de477921 [weak]
    - Filesize:217152 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/plasma-workspace_5.22.5-1~np4_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (2555732 != 2553808). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:71a7d93478fb883abcbc9e5362a684bb5c94443627131fccd87bc3e7425948e3
    - SHA1:c18c5694753974dba5d679f1b43c3e9e7e54363b [weak]
    - MD5Sum:e6e14bb511fabc545c44bec3f16968c6 [weak]
    - Filesize:2553808 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/plasma-desktop_5.22.5-1~np1_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (1107772 != 1107460). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:ecec87e0de162578162fa12a0197d76af0187f0ab9ef6fd7d79ca122993f1b75
    - SHA1:57bcf94a60e8c775df306daee80e7fb5593844c6 [weak]
    - MD5Sum:481b135a385d30b32bc54b4f1d5c1b05 [weak]
    - Filesize:1107460 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/plasma-discover-backend-flatpak_5.22.5-1~np1_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (86572 != 86708). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:7966a1a417493ff19abcf70335ca78c4d5d8b9aa3b700b242aa3e44b52fc3ae8
    - SHA1:5b74581134fc2e11ccc36ddc31dec05b7002dffd [weak]
    - MD5Sum:503d61491fc242463b7efbc661c07f1f [weak]
    - Filesize:86708 [weak]
E: Failed to fetch https://provo-mirror.opensuse.org//repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma522/Debian_Unstable/amd64/plasma-discover_5.22.5-1~np1_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (417960 != 416388). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 91.193.113.70 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:abbfb1979502feb410fcb4582844db6bc7143bede04eef2a0a474454c5b934b8
    - SHA1:16dd5c108f4874ece9706c41192a8470b97c2665 [weak]
    - MD5Sum:e58390c97b98679ff4d93460e54cc8fc [weak]
    - Filesize:416388 [weak]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
dcihon@mx-kde-sid:~

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.86.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2021 10:50 am
by norbert
I need to kick of ya complete rebuild, I'll do that when I'm back from camping ;-)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 6:51 am
by MAYBL8
Ok no problem.
Enjoy your vacation.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:16 am
by norbert
Kicked off a rebuild now, will take a bit of time, though.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:17 am
by MAYBL8
Updated my sources to the 523 and updated.

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.22.90
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.86.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:38 am
by MAYBL8
I haven't updated in a while:

Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.0
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.86.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:42 pm
by fladd
Can I use these repos to upgrade the new MX21 KDE to Plasma 5.23?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:37 pm
by MAYBL8
Since MX-21 just came out. I have not tried it yet.

Go read the first several posts in this thread to make sure you are following the instructions carefully.

Remember if you go this route I would not use this as a production machine and if you do back up your files that are important to you.
You will only get support from us that are using this unsupported version. You are pretty much on your own when you do this.

Also this is not considered an upgrade at all. It is experimental.

Let us know if you have any other questions. I will try to help the best I can.
Thanks
Dan

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:44 pm
by MAYBL8
Trying todays update:

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  kwayland-data libkf5auth-data libkf5bluezqt-data libkf5bookmarks-data libkf5codecs-data libkf5completion-data libkf5config-data libkf5configwidgets-data
  libkf5contacts-data libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5dav-data libkf5dbusaddons-data libkf5declarative-data libkf5dnssd-data libkf5filemetadata-data
  libkf5globalaccel-data libkf5holidays-data libkf5i18n-data libkf5iconthemes-data libkf5itemviews-data libkf5jobwidgets-data libkf5kcmutils-data
  libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5khtml-data libkf5newstuff-data libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5package-data libkf5parts-data
  libkf5people-data libkf5pty-data libkf5service-data libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data libkf5su-data libkf5syntaxhighlighting-data libkf5textwidgets-data
  libkf5unitconversion-data libkf5wallet-data libkf5widgetsaddons-data libkf5windowsystem-data libkf5xmlgui-data
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt apt-utils breeze-icon-theme cpp-11 g++-11 gcc-11 gcc-11-base gcc-11-base:i386 libapt-pkg6.0 libasan6 libatomic1 libatomic1:i386 libcc1-0 libfaad2
  libgcc-11-dev libgcc-s1 libgcc-s1:i386 libgfortran5 libgomp1 libitm1 libllvm12 libllvm12:i386 liblsan0 libpipewire-0.3-0 libquadmath0 libspa-0.2-modules
  libstdc++-11-dev libstdc++6 libstdc++6:i386 libtsan0 libubsan1 oxygen-icon-theme printer-driver-c2050
33 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 42 not upgraded.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:45 pm
by norbert
I just uploaded frameworks 5.87, are you using the unstable or testing repo? And can you find out why those packages are held back?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:52 pm
by MAYBL8
I am on unstable.
I will see what I can find out.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:57 pm
by MAYBL8

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$ apt policy kwayland-data
kwayland-data:
  Installed: 4:5.86.0-1
  Candidate: 4:5.87.0-1~np1
  Version table:
     4:5.87.0-1~np1 500
        500 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ Packages
 *** 4:5.86.0-1 500
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     4:5.86.0-1~np1 500
        500 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable ./ Packages

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$ inxi -r
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma523/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial-added-by-mxpi.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:59 pm
by norbert
Well, that doesn't tell me *why* it cannot be updated, though.

Ahh, the builds are simply not ready by now ... still building ... please wait a bit more!

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:09 am
by fladd
MAYBL8 wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:37 pm Since MX-21 just came out. I have not tried it yet.

Go read the first several posts in this thread to make sure you are following the instructions carefully.

Remember if you go this route I would not use this as a production machine and if you do back up your files that are important to you.
You will only get support from us that are using this unsupported version. You are pretty much on your own when you do this.

Also this is not considered an upgrade at all. It is experimental.

Let us know if you have any other questions. I will try to help the best I can.
Thanks
Dan
I see. Mmh, are there plans to update Plasma in MX21 officially in the near future?
I really want those Anniversary Edition of Plasma. It adds so many nice things. It's a fantastic release!
And I would really like to use an MX/Antix base. I mean, KDE Neon is fine, but it runs systemd and I have no interest in this.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:22 pm
by MAYBL8

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.1
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.87.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:27 pm
by MAYBL8
I see. Mmh, are there plans to update Plasma in MX21 officially in the near future?
I really want those Anniversary Edition of Plasma. It adds so many nice things. It's a fantastic release!
And I would really like to use an MX/Antix base. I mean, KDE Neon is fine, but it runs systemd and I have no interest in this.
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The devs for MX-21 will follow stable debian releases so unless stable debian upgrades MX will follow.

You can try in a virtual box to use the unstable or testing repo following the instructions at the beginning of this topic.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 1:07 pm
by MAYBL8
I updated today:

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.2
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.87.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.10.0-1-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:54 pm
by MAYBL8
Guys,
I just updated my system and KDE system settings crashes when opening it.
I filled out a KDE bug report.
Not sure if it update related.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:09 am
by dskouras
Hi,

I am currently running MX-21 (release version) KDE. I would like to update to Plasma 5.21 or newer - I've done this in Debian by updating to testing, but I am not sure how to do this in MX. I already tried to follow the instructions at the start of this thread but it didn't work - no errors, but it didn't update Plasma, I am still on the release version.

One possible problem may be that the Beta iso is no longer available (or I failed to find it).

Is there any advice someone could possibly give me?

Many thanks!

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:45 am
by MAYBL8
In looking at the instructions from page one. I see that our instructions need updated. I can't edit the first post so I can't do that there.
I would start by checking your repos.

Mine look like this:

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Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/npreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma523/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2108/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_Unstable/ ./
           5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_Unstable/ ./

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:01 am
by MAYBL8
Looks like some upstream work is being done in sid (unstable)

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$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  lightning thunderbird vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:32 am
by dskouras
Thank you - I will experiment with this

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:30 pm
by MAYBL8
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.89.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.14.0-4-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:39 pm
by norbert
MAYBL8 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:30 pm KDE Frameworks Version: 5.89.0
When did you do this ... I am just now building the packages and they are not all finished ... incredible :-D

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:46 pm
by MAYBL8
Just now .
I was on the machine and it told me there were 200 + updates.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:00 pm
by norbert
Ohh, and I am still doing rebuilds ... I would like to have this all in a staging area

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:04 pm
by MAYBL8
At this point my system is running fine.
If you want just let me know when it is good to upgrade.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:06 pm
by MAYBL8
On this system I am having an issue saving ,modifying documents on my NAS drive.
I have determined that it is this system that is the issue not the NAS drive.
Other installs of MX work just fine with the NAS drive.

So I am going to reinstall this system and bring it up to the latest KDE plasma at the moment of 5.23
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.23.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.89.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.15.0-2-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-10510U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Memory: 15.3 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics

I will document my steps as I go. I will modify this post with the steps.
First step will be overwriting this partition with the MX 21 kde standard edition.
I have to do some documenting what I have installed since I started.

Reinstalled the /root partition and left /home and reused it. System can now save changes to the NAS drive.
On this system the first change I made is the screen resolution. I had to reduce it to 1920x1080 so I could read the screen.
The login screen is still small. I need to find where to change that.
Now to add my apps back in and then change to sid and npreinings repos

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 4:33 pm
by markol
So I upgraded a clean install of MX21 to Plasma 5.22 :)
Looks like everything is working (at least after an hour of playing around)

I wanted to try the new Kalendar app from kde.org but could not install it via appstream/Discover ("Could not open appstream://org.kde.kalendar"). I tried several other applications but no success.
appstream is still version 0.14.4-1 (bullseye), however bookworm and sid have 0.15.1. Could this be the problem?
I installed Kalendar smoothly in the latest KDE Neon

And another thing... KDE Connect still slows down (cca 9 seconds) the reboot/shutdown (I mentioned it in the KDE section of the forum):

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Dec 25 21:56:52 testix dbus-daemon[1171]: [session uid=1000 pid=1169] Activating service name='org.kde.Shutdown' requested by ':1.16' (uid=1000 pid=1583 comm="/usr/bin/ksmserver ")
Dec 25 21:56:52 testix dbus-daemon[1171]: [session uid=1000 pid=1169] Successfully activated service 'org.kde.Shutdown'
Dec 25 21:56:53 testix dbus-daemon[1171]: [session uid=1000 pid=1169] Activating service name='org.kde.kdeconnect' requested by ':1.21' (uid=1000 pid=1665 comm="/usr/bin/plasmashell ")
Dec 25 21:56:53 testix dbus-daemon[1171]: [session uid=1000 pid=1169] Successfully activated service 'org.kde.kdeconnect'
Dec 25 21:56:53 testix org.kde.kdeconnect[10480]: kdeconnect.core: Could not query capabilities from notifications server
Dec 25 21:57:02 testix org.kde.kdeconnect[10480]: ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 10480, errno = 11

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:07 pm
by markol
Plasma 5.23 (with apps 2112) running just fine in my VBox

There was a problem with DIgikam when I tried to install from PXPI popular apps.
I uninstalled it, then sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade
Rebooted
MX updater suggested 40 more packages so I let it do the job
Rebooted again just to be sure

I did setup environment identical to my machine and everything works without glitches.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:11 am
by baldyeti
There is one thing i'd like to ask to those running a post 5.20 plasma: are you affected by this kdeconnect bug ?
You have to have kdeconnect installed, and then you'd notice if terminating a session incurs an odd delay or not.

If (and only if) i was sure this has been fixed i'd then request a backport of the current version of kdeconnect to MX21.
If i am reading correctly the bug report referenced in the above link, this issue would have been fixed in late 2021 so i am not sure if it is included in the current 5.23 version already.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:06 pm
by markol
baldyeti wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 10:11 am There is one thing i'd like to ask to those running a post 5.20 plasma: are you affected by this kdeconnect bug ?
You have to have kdeconnect installed, and then you'd notice if terminating a session incurs an odd delay or not.

If (and only if) i was sure this has been fixed i'd then request a backport of the current version of kdeconnect to MX21.
If i am reading correctly the bug report referenced in the above link, this issue would have been fixed in late 2021 so i am not sure if it is included in the current 5.23 version already.
I'm running 5.23 from Norbert's repo and the bug is still there.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 3:18 am
by baldyeti
markol wrote: Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:06 pm I'm running 5.23 from Norbert's repo and the bug is still there.
Oh that is too bad but thanks for checking. Please let us know when it gets fixed in a future version (or perhaps it'll be backported by the debian maintainers themselves).

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:01 am
by markol
@norbert is there a chance you could do a backport for KDE Connect regarding this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=432643
I can test it in 5.23

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:17 am
by norbert
@markol
I can try later on, best if someone could send me an email with the patch, do that I don't forget ;-) Still busy with family time.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:56 am
by norbert
Ok, I sent plasma-workspace 5.23.5-1~np2 to the OSC servers. Should be rebuilt in reasonable time.

Please test.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 6:44 am
by norbert
Builds finished for i386 and x86_64 for all releases. So all good for testing.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:24 am
by markol
norbert wrote: Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:56 am Ok, I sent plasma-workspace 5.23.5-1~np2 to the OSC servers. Should be rebuilt in reasonable time.

Please test.
Thank you, works in VBox! I will run updates on my machine later...

EDIT: Works on my machine as well (Plasma 5.23 from your repo)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:10 am
by baldyeti
Thank you both ! Now can we expect this to be back-ported to bullseye and inherited by MX, or should i specifically ask the MX devs ?

Also Norbert, when you say 'Builds finished for i386 and x86_64 for all releases", does that mean there is a deb package for bullseye and plasma 5.20 somewhere on your repo ready for testing ?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:38 am
by norbert
Not for plasma 5.20, sorry.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:18 am
by markol
@baldyeti create an identical environment in VBox and then upgrade to 5.23. Test for couple of days and if everything (including apps you use daily) works fine, upgrade your machine :)

I usually have at least one spare SSD and I always upgrade/reinstall to a "fresh" disk. This way I can put the old one back if anything goes south...

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:30 am
by markol
@norbert I built KDE Kalendar from https://invent.kde.org/pim/kalendar and it works just fine in 5.23 (imported caldav from my server, clock/calendar shows my events)
Could you include it in your repos? Not now, but whenever you're going to prepare a new version or just feeling like it :)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 7:22 pm
by norbert
Hi @markol
I have added kalendar to the

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other
repo, but currently builds are broken due to the libwacom transition - nothing I can do for now.
After some time (no idea, probably 1-2 days) it should be available.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:05 am
by markol
thank you @norbert

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:48 am
by baldyeti
markol wrote: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:18 am create an identical environment in VBox and then upgrade to 5.23. Test for couple of days and if everything (including apps you use daily) works fine, upgrade your machine :)
Mmmh, sorry i am not going to leave "stable". I will ask for a build in the MX test repo. Should i just point devs to the patch or is there a more direct link we can give them (to norbert's patched kdeconnect source deb) ?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:23 am
by markol
baldyeti wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:48 amMmmh, sorry i am not going to leave "stable".
:grin:
baldyeti wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:48 am I will ask for a build in the MX test repo. Should i just point devs to the patch or is there a more direct link we can give them (to norbert's patched kdeconnect source deb) ?
Yeah, sounds like a good idea, just point them to this thread. There should be enough info but I'm sure they will contact norbert if needed.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:25 am
by norbert
Happy to help with anything if needs arise. With most my Debian duties dropped, I have free hands :-D :-D

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:51 am
by baldyeti
Thanks for your help Norbert and IIFC for being instrumental in getting 5.20 ready for bullseye in the 1st place. So sad to see the bickering taking place in the debian.user.kde newsgroup.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:20 am
by markol
Upgraded to 5.24 in my VBox and no problems so far. I will give it a week or so before upgrading my machine :)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:45 am
by markol
@norbert just to let you know that 5.24 (Wayland!) is running smoothly on Asus T101HA
Touch and screen rotation work OOTB, the only problem remains that there is no Linux driver for camera. Can't have everything I guess :)

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System:    Kernel: 5.10.0-10-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-10-amd64 
           root=UUID=<filter> ro quiet splash init=/lib/systemd/systemd 
           Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.24.0 wm: kwin_wayland vt: 2 dm: SDDM 
           Distro: MX-21_KDE_x64 Wildflower October 5  2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: T101HA v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ASUSTeK model: T101HA v: 1.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: T101HA.203 
           date: 07/15/2016 
Battery:   ID-1: BATC charge: 18.9 Wh (84.0%) condition: 22.5/31.6 Wh (71.0%) volts: 3.9 min: 3.8 
           model: Intel SR 1 SR Real Battery type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Charging cycles: 197 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Atom x5-Z8350 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Airmont family: 6 
           model-id: 4C (76) stepping: 4 microcode: 411 cache: L2: 1024 KiB 
           flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 11520 
           Speed: 759 MHz min/max: 480/1920 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 606 2: 581 3: 684 4: 721 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 
           mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:22b0 class-ID: 0300 
           Display: wayland server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: kwin_wayland driver: loaded: modesetting 
           unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :1 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.3x8.3") s-diag: 398mm (15.7") 
           Monitor-1: XWAYLAND0 res: 1280x800 hz: 60 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (CHV) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.5 compat-v: 3.0 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Imaging Unit 
           vendor: ASUSTeK driver: intel_atomisp2_pm v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 chip-ID: 8086:22b8 
           class-ID: 0480 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-10-amd64 running: yes 
           Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: AzureWave 
           driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel modules: wl port: f000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0042 
           class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: IMC Networks type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-3:3 chip-ID: 13d3:3501 
           class-ID: e001 
           Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: enabled,running rfk-block: 
           hardware: no software: no address: <filter> 
           Info: acl-mtu: 1024:8 sco-mtu: 50:8 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff link-mode: slave accept 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 87.09 GiB used: 11.37 GiB (13.1%) 
           ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 maj-min: 179:768 vendor: SanDisk model: SD64G size: 57.97 GiB block-size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> scheme: GPT 
           SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data. 
           ID-2: /dev/mmcblk1 maj-min: 179:0 vendor: Samsung model: BJNB4R size: 29.12 GiB block-size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0x8 scheme: GPT 
           SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data. 
Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 27.36 GiB size: 26.77 GiB (97.82%) used: 11.21 GiB (41.9%) fs: ext4 
           dev: /dev/mmcblk1p2 maj-min: 179:2 
           ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 256 MiB size: 252 MiB (98.46%) used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat 
           dev: /dev/mmcblk1p1 maj-min: 179:1 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 15 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 1.5 GiB used: 172.2 MiB (11.2%) priority: -2 
           dev: /dev/mmcblk1p3 maj-min: 179:3 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 6280.4 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Repos:     Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 2327 lib: 1257 flatpak: 0 
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/microsoft-edge-beta.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/edge/ stable main
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list 
           1: deb https://ftp.arnes.si/mirrors/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
           2: deb https://ftp.arnes.si/mirrors/mxlinux/packages/mx/repo/ bullseye ahs
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/norbertpreining.list 
           1: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_11/ ./
           2: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma524/Debian_11/ ./
           3: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2112/Debian_11/ ./
           4: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_11/ ./
           5: deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_11/ ./
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/skype-stable.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https://repo.skype.com/deb stable main
Info:      Processes: 215 Uptime: 9m wakeups: 1 Memory: 1.77 GiB used: 1.05 GiB (59.3%) Init: systemd v: 247 
           runlevel: 5 default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: quick-system-in 
           default: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: quick-system-in inxi: 3.3.06

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:52 am
by norbert
Thanks for the positive feedback.

No driver for the camera, strange.
USB device? If yes, please send us vendor and product id, can't imagine...

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:24 am
by markol
norbert wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:52 am Thanks for the positive feedback.
No problem, thank you for all the great work!
norbert wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 5:52 am No driver for the camera, strange.
USB device? If yes, please send us vendor and product id, can't imagine...
I created a separate topic for this webcam -> viewtopic.php?t=68788

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:27 pm
by markol
Looks like there's a bug in 5.24 (verified on 2 setups)
System settings -> Users
Clicking on user(s) does nothing. I can add new user, but cannot edit/remove existing.

Works in 5.23


Edit: here's the bug report https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449385

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:01 pm
by rustywrench
on the latest plasma 5.24.1 from norbet's repos I'm getting an unexpected file size when apt attempts to download the latest latte-dock version update.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:10 pm
by norbert
I'll bump a binary rebuild ... Stupid obs mirrors it is again

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:32 pm
by rustywrench
thanks norbert! everything else seems to be working great with my 5.24.1 build.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:26 am
by markol
Fingerprint authentication works in Plasma 5.24.2!

1. You need the latest Plasma build from Norbert's repos (see first post in this topic; just replace plasma522 with plasma524, and apps2108 with apps2112)

2. Install

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sudo apt install fprintd libfpam-fprintd
3. Open System Settings -> Users and click on "Configure Fingerprint Authentication...".
Add your fingeprints.
You may have to reboot if the button is not present.

4. Open /etc/pam.d/sddm and add to the top:

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auth 			[success=1 new_authtok_reqd=1 default=ignore]  	pam_unix.so try_first_pass likeauth nullok
auth 			sufficient  	pam_fprintd.so
5. Reboot


Works on my Thinkpad T490S

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2022 4:50 am
by norbert
Cool!!!

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:10 am
by markol
@norbert, looks like there's been something wrong with Kalendar on your repo since yesterday

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Fetched 22,8 MB in 6s (3575 kB/s)                                                                                                                          
E: Failed to fetch https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_11/amd64/kalendar_1.0.0-1~np1_amd64.deb  File has unexpected size (391948 != 391800). Mirror sync in progress? [IP: 2001:638:60f:110::1:2 443]
   Hashes of expected file:
    - SHA256:4cfc34c8b2712f689002cb39647f8fe6c01d354dd2de11432c666479369f3a15
    - SHA1:4d7532672b469b7013abd32c42131cc79a6c154c [weak]
    - MD5Sum:a1ce7de9499d511c22f1c4a0fb86a2ea [weak]
    - Filesize:391800 [weak]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:11 am
by norbert
Thanks, will trigger a rebuild soon. Usual thing.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:19 am
by norbert
Should be fixed by now

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:52 am
by markol
norbert wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:19 am Should be fixed by now
Indeed, thank you!

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:24 pm
by markol
markol wrote: Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:27 pm Looks like there's a bug in 5.24 (verified on 2 setups)
System settings -> Users
Clicking on user(s) does nothing. I can add new user, but cannot edit/remove existing.

Works in 5.23

Edit: here's the bug report https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=449385
This bug was resolved in one of the updates (probably 5.24.1 or maybe .2?) but it appeared again in the latest 5.24.3

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 3:49 am
by markol
@norbert there are problems with this last Plasma 5.24.4 update

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Err:4 https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma524/Debian_11 ./ kde-config-screenlocker 5.24.4-1~np1
  500  Internal Server Error [IP: 2001:67c:2178:8::16 443]
and

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E: Failed to fetch https://mirrorcache.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma524/Debian_11/amd64/kde-config-screenlocker_5.24.4-1~np1_amd64.deb  500  Internal Server Error [IP: 2001:67c:2178:8::16 443]
(all files, not just this one)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:21 am
by norbert
Hmm, that is strange, but nothing I can really influence. I see the files at https://download.opensuse.org/repositor ... Debian_11/ and anything else sounds like a hiccup on the OBS side which I cannot fix (Internat Server Error).

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 5:13 am
by markol
Well, it works now. Doing nothing fixed it :D
(sounds like my code sometimes)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 4:56 am
by markol
@norbert latest update has an unmet dependency (polkit-kde-agent-1):

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sudo apt full-upgrade polkit-kde-agent-1
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Error!
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 polkit-kde-agent-1 : Depends: polkitd but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
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sudo apt install polkitd
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Package polkitd is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'polkitd' has no installation candidate

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 5:17 am
by markol
And one more thing... Kalendar is now included in Gear 22.04 (according to their press release) and it looks like your build from 21.12 has unmet dependencies?

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sudo apt install kalendar
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kalendar : Depends: libkf5akonadicalendar5-21.12 but it is not installable
            Depends: libkf5akonadicontact5-21.12 but it is not installable
            Depends: libkf5akonadicore5-21.12 but it is not installable
            Depends: libkf5akonadiwidgets5-21.12 but it is not installable
            Depends: libkf5calendarsupport5-21.12 but it is not installable
            Depends: libkf5eventviews5-21.12 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 5:20 am
by norbert
I'll check later, can you send me an email with all the details, please, so I don't forget (Japanese holidays here ...)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 6:47 am
by norbert
I have added kalendar 22.04 to the apps2204 repo, should be built soon.

Concerning the polkit error, I am still checking.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 2:19 am
by markol
Thank you, works now!

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:49 am
by QaldeK
For unknowns reasons, the gpg signature don’t work on my system until i modified the obs-npreining-kde.list like this (adding [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] for each repos…) :

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deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other-deps/Debian_11/ ./ 
deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/frameworks/Debian_11/ ./ 
deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/plasma524/Debian_11/ ./ deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/apps2204/Debian_11/ ./ 
deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/obs-npreining.asc] https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/other/Debian_11/ ./

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:39 am
by markol
@QaldeK -> https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/06/ ... epository/
Here's the latest Plasma -> https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/07/ ... te-2022-7/ (I'm planning to stay on 5.24 LTS)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 3:30 am
by markol
Norbert released latest KDE/Plasma updates:
Frameworks: 5.97
Gears: 22.08.0
Plasma 5.25: 5.25.4
Plasma 5.24 LTS: 5.24.6

More info and how-to: https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/08/ ... te-2022-8/

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:17 am
by rambo919
OK SO

It seems these repos support both 5.25 and 5.24..... but in no way that I can see clearly defines how to choose which.

How do I downgrade from 5.25 to 5.24?

EDIT: oh nvm, change to plasma524 and apps2204 and then "upgrade" or is there a "downgrade"?
EDIT2: nope that edit seems to point to something that does not exist anymore.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:01 am
by norbert
Downgrading is not really supported, but you can force all packages with apt install PKG==<version> to be downgraded. But that is not a piece of cake

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:03 am
by rambo919
norbert wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:01 am Downgrading is not really supported, but you can force all packages with apt install PKG==<version> to be downgraded. But that is not a piece of cake
Yes in worst case that is ok but.... how do I if I start from scratch choose which KDE to upgrade to?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:17 am
by norbert
If you have Debian KDE installed, just add my repos.
If you have my newer versions installed and want to start from scratch, best is to remove everyting Plasma?KDE related, then add the version repo you want.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:48 am
by rambo919
norbert wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:17 am If you have Debian KDE installed, just add my repos.
That's what I did initially.... my question is how do I choose whether to upgrade to 5.24 instead of 5.25?

Use plasma524 and apps2204 in the list file?

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:56 pm
by norbert
Yes, you choose either plasma524 or plasma525 in the list file. The apps selection is independent (I hope)

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 1:30 am
by rambo919
OK thank you.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:59 pm
by rambo919
Updated in VM now.... seems it uninstalled my theme (breeze) due to "broken packages" and I cannot log in.

"org.kde.plasma.private.sessions is not installed"

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:52 am
by markol
rambo919 wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:59 pm Updated in VM now.... seems it uninstalled my theme (breeze) due to "broken packages" and I cannot log in.

"org.kde.plasma.private.sessions is not installed"
There are always (sync?) problems as soon as updates are available in Norbert's repos. Just wait for a day or so. Also always check what update is trying to do (removing packages is a warning sign).

Another thing - setup a virtual machine with a copy of your working environment and test the updates there first.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:34 am
by rambo919
markol wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:52 am
rambo919 wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:59 pm Updated in VM now.... seems it uninstalled my theme (breeze) due to "broken packages" and I cannot log in.

"org.kde.plasma.private.sessions is not installed"
There are always (sync?) problems as soon as updates are available in Norbert's repos. Just wait for a day or so. Also always check what update is trying to do (removing packages is a warning sign).

Another thing - setup a virtual machine with a copy of your working environment and test the updates there first.
Good to know.... it got more updates today. I updated and to restore removed packages used instructions here https://askubuntu.com/questions/50622/h ... es-at-once

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:54 pm
by markol
For everyone who's expecting Norbert's further updates...
Sorry to say, but I don’t intend to put more work into the packages, I’m done with Debian and their wizard hunting. I leave the current state up in the hope that maybe someone takes over.
We're stuck with Plasma 5.24.7 (LTS) and 5.25.5, KDE Gears 22.08.3, and KDE Frameworks 5.100.0 until the new Debian (and MX Linux) comes out - which will probably include Plasma 5.27.1 (or 5.27.2). This will be the last 5.x release (also LTS) before the release of Plasma 6.

I believe this is it regarding newer Plasma in Debian Stable.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:19 am
by rambo919
I don't even care about the stupid wizard game.... the fact that Debian it seems also went off the rails because of it.... this does not bode well for the future.... The wokes have invaded and might just destroy Debian from the inside out it looks like.

Imagine if it gets so bad Debian gets forked into a "no woke crazies allowed but wizards welcome" project.

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2023 11:39 am
by markol
Here's the official end of support and development from Norbert
It has been many years that I have provided up-to-date builds of KDE/Plasma for Debian stable, testing, unstable. It is now more than a year that I don’t use Debian anymore. Time to send this off.
More: https://www.preining.info/blog/2023/03/ ... an-builds/

Re: MX Modified - Latest MX KDE 5.22 Using MX21 beta

Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:33 am
by cinclus
I wanted to try the most current plasma 5.24 LTS and found Norbert's repos are still available.
I started from a monthly snapshot KDE/Plasma MX 21.3 and followed Norbert's instructions in:
https://www.preining.info/blog/2022/02/ ... or-debian/
first.
But the Debian_11 variant of this repo was not available:

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/[i]apps2112[/i]/DISTRIBUTION/ ./
I replaced it successfully by:

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deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/npreining:/debian-kde:/[i]apps2208[/i]/Debin_11/ ./
for inclusion in:

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/etc/apt/sources.list.d/obs-npreining-kde.list
Then I simply used the MX Package installer to update the Desktop environment "KDE Standard".
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