MX Linux Forum

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:45 am**

]Welcome to the new Mepis Users Forum. It is the culmination of a several months effort to upgrade and modernize the Forum software, and use phpBB, an Open source solution. My thanks to the team members, Peregrine, Jerry3904, Adrian, Acesabe, and Eadwine Rose who gave freely of their time to make this happen. A special thanks to peregrine who was the linchpin of the team, without whom this could not have been done.

Also, thanks to all the users who logged into the test site, and left comments to help us debug the software, and enhance features. I hesitate to single anyone out, but both Utopia and arjaybe were of great help in rooting out issues.

Please use this thread to report any issues, or help you need with the Forum. Enjoy.

Here is a downloadable Quick Start Guide.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:31 pm**

Maintainers forum is visible to ordinary users, it's also in the "search" drop box.
Avatars larger than 6 KiB (very small if you're using .gif) are not accepted, even if many in the local gallery are more than double that size.
Henry

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:37 pm**

Utopia wrote:Maintainers forum is visible to ordinary users, it's also in the "search" drop box.
Avatars larger than 6 KiB (very small if you're using .gif) are not accepted, even if many in the local gallery are more than double that size.
Henry

Corrected maintainers forum
What size would you recommend?

EDIT: Reset it to 64144 bytes, sames as was in VB

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:43 pm**

What you need to do

User Control Panel - In the upper blue menu bar there is a link to your User Control panel. Here you can set your Board preferences and review information concerning your profile. I encourage you to review all the information and settings here and set your preferences as desired.

Avatar - You will need to upload your avatar. the maximum size is 120x120 pixels. Also in your user control panel, Board Preferences, Edit display options, make sure “Display avatars” is checked.

Signature - In your user control panel, Board Preferences, Edit posting defaults. check “Attach my signature by default”. If you have BB codes such as bolding or URLs you will have to edit your signature as phpBB handles these codes differently than vBulletin.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:47 pm**

I think you already know that the new "Mepis themes" needs more text, "Moderators etc". A very good idea to make the Art section smaller, it will look more active now. Was to many subcategories before.
Henry

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:52 pm**

Is there any plan for the latest post header to be shown on the index page of each section like before and or a top section with the latest posts ?. So far everything requires more steps than before (less user friendly). A lot of clicking and arrow back just to see what is going on today. I like the new smileys but for me the rest feels like a step backward.... maybe it will grow on me like Dolphin and Plasma did. JBoman

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:54 pm**

A lot of clicking and arrow back just to see what is going on today.

You can click on one of the | View active topics | View unread posts | View new posts | on top of the page. You can also bookmark them (they are for all forum thought, not per sub-forum).

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:01 pm**

top section with the latest posts

You have a section with the 5 latest posts at the bottom of the index page, it's very small.
Henry

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:12 pm**

Utopia wrote:
top section with the latest posts
You have a section with the 5 latest posts at the bottom of the index page, it's very small.
Henry

Yes, same as the test forum. We decided to leave as is.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:37 pm**

Everything looks good. I had to go "clean up" the html code in my signature. Is there anyway I can recover my aviator from the old server. It is only 4 years old and I cannot find a copy on any of my computers. Something about numerous rebuilds and advancing years has caused me to loose track as to where it might be.

It appears the html codes are not being recognized in the signatures ( see mine at the bottom).

I do not also seem to be logged in automatically when I return to the forum. I checked the box at the bottom to do so. My user name and password are present, but I click the login box when I come back.

Edit: My first attempt at code clean up did not work because my signature exceeded the "new" character limit of 255 characters and was not accepted.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:41 pm**

Try using < instead of [

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:44 pm**

The site looks great. My thanks to all for the dedication and wherewithal to put it together.

If you will forgive the non-technical, ticky-tack critique (and no offense intended):

The introduction on the home page,

"This web site is developed and maintained by the community of Mepis users. Its purpose is to tell you who we are, show you what we do, provide you with relevant news, and point you to where you can get help on using MEPIS Linux. That user-friendly operating system is pre-configured for simplicity and ease of use, and is well supported--by us! Please check the official site to find out how to get MEPIS!",

does not read cleanly, contains grammatical problems and lacks polish as an introduction.

May I suggest something like the following?

We proudly welcome you to the Mepis community website.

Our purpose is threefold:

- To provide support to Mepis Linux users regardless of skill level
- To keep you informed regarding news, updates and new releases of the Mepis OS
- To offer a community environment for Mepis users to share their interests and assist others

Mepis is a stable, feature-rich and easy to use Linux based Operating System backed by an enthusiastic, knowledgeable and helpful community.

To download or to obtain an overview of Mepis, please visit the official Mepis site.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:46 pm**

Thanks. I haven't had time to do any editing yet, but it is next on my list.

EDIT: oh, you are on the home page of mepiscommunity.org, which has been there for three years or so now. I do not believe there is a grammatical error in it, though the style is intentionally colloquial. Since it has already been translated into a bunch of languages, there is not much inclination to change it now.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:11 pm**

You will notice a series of pyramids under users names. They are an indication of the number of posts you have made. Some did not get enabled during the conversion. Unless and until we can find a way to globally enable all of them, I will do them individually as I see new posts. So please be patient for them to show up.

EDIT: I think I found a way to globally enable the pyramids.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:15 pm**

Great, Jerry has his now.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:19 pm**

peregrine wrote:Great, Jerry has his now.

yes I enabled him.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:20 pm**

Two problems from where I sit:

1) the display is too wide -- I have a horizontal scroll bar in FF. This is on a widescreen LCD at 1280x800 with FF not quite at full screen. Never was an issue with the old setup.

2) I got an email about a reply in one of my "watched" threads. I'd like to shut that off, while still being able to bring up watched (I think it was called subscribed in the old setup) threads to look for replies.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:24 pm**

uncle mark, do you use an autopager in Firefox? That causes some problems in Chrome for me... Also I think you can set notification policies in User Control Panel (by why subscribe to a thread if you don't want to receive notifications, I thought that's the purpose of subscribing)

Rich, you haven't enabled the pyramids on your account

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:30 pm**

<q>
uncle mark, do you use an autopager in Firefox? That causes some problems in Chrome for me... Also I think you can set notification policies in User Control Panel (by why subscribe to a thread if you don't want to receive notifications, I thought that's the purpose of subscribing)
</q>

No, I don't use autopaging.

The "subscribed" in the old setup was merely a listing of threads I had posted in. It wasn't anything I chose, but it was handy.

As far as the horizontal scroll bar, it's only in this section, from the very first post in this thread. I just went to the Regulars and Beta forums and opened a few threads and it was fine.

Make sure that in your User Control Panel, Board preferences, Post Settings that "email me if someone replies to my post" is unchecked.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:30 pm**

Is there anyway I can recover my aviator from the old server

Have you searched the local gallery, at the bottom of "edit avatar". With a little bit of luck it has followed you here (under misc. category).
Henry

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:32 pm**

Uncle Mark, the width is fluid, it adjusts to whatever size you have. I have a 1920X 1080. It can fill the screen or half the screen with no horizontal scroll bars in FF.
As Adrian suggested, could it be an add on or a setting in FF?

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:34 pm**

Adrian wrote:uncle mark, do you use an autopager in Firefox? That causes some problems in Chrome for me... Also I think you can set notification policies in User Control Panel (by why subscribe to a thread if you don't want to receive notifications, I thought that's the purpose of subscribing)

Rich, you haven't enabled the pyramids on your account

No. I have not.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:41 pm**

Very minor point, but could the orange "MEPIS Users Forum" logo/link be removed (is it necessary?) or made smaller? It seems a bit out of place.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:44 pm**

<q>
Uncle Mark, the width is fluid, it adjusts to whatever size you have. I have a 1920X 1080. It can fill the screen or half the screen with no horizontal scroll bars in FF.
As Adrian suggested, could it be an add on or a setting in FF?
</q>

Right now, with this thread on page 3, it's not too wide.

But it is on page 2. And I think I know the reason -- Jerry's sig with all his system specs is waaay long. That pushes the whole page out.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:56 pm**

uncle mark wrote:
Right now, with this thread on page 3, it's not too wide.

But it is on page 2. And I think I know the reason -- Jerry's sig with all his system specs is waaay long. That pushes the whole page out.

And on page 1, it looks like Henry/Utopias post didn't wrap and is what is stretching the whole page too wide.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:56 pm**

uncle mark wrote:<q>
Uncle Mark, the width is fluid, it adjusts to whatever size you have. I have a 1920X 1080. It can fill the screen or half the screen with no horizontal scroll bars in FF.
As Adrian suggested, could it be an add on or a setting in FF?
</q>

Right now, with this thread on page 3, it's not too wide.

But it is on page 2. And I think I know the reason -- Jerry's sig with all his system specs is waaay long. That pushes the whole page out.

Strange, on my 1440x900 his sig is only 3/4 way across the screen. And I have Google Chrome set at 120% zoom.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:02 pm**

peregrine wrote:Uncle Mark, the width is fluid, it adjusts to whatever size you have. I have a 1920X 1080. It can fill the screen or half the screen with no horizontal scroll bars in FF.
As Adrian suggested, could it be an add on or a setting in FF?

I don't claim to know anything, but I have an idea that it's a problem with wrapping or widths in signatures. On page one, KrispyKritters centered signature seems to be what has pushed the width of the page. On page two, I'm guessing it's Jerry's long single line of system specs. So far, page three displays okay.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:08 pm**

uncle mark wrote:
peregrine wrote:Uncle Mark, the width is fluid, it adjusts to whatever size you have. I have a 1920X 1080. It can fill the screen or half the screen with no horizontal scroll bars in FF.
As Adrian suggested, could it be an add on or a setting in FF?

I don't claim to know anything, but I have an idea that it's a problem with wrapping or widths in signatures. On page one, KrispyKritters centered signature seems to be what has pushed the width of the page. On page two, I'm guessing it's Jerry's long single line of system specs. So far, page three displays okay.

Sigs have a maximum of 255 characters. i just edited mine to the max. As I was adding characters they auto wrapped to the next line. How does your display look now with my max sig length.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:15 pm**

Proper width:

Horizontal scrollbar

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:19 pm**

richb wrote: Sigs have a maximum of 255 characters. i just edited mine to the max. As I was adding characters they auto wrapped to the next line. How does your display look now with my max sig length.

It looks like yours wrapped fine. This page three of this thread hasn't shown a scroll bar like page one and two, UNTIL I posted my screenshots. They appeard to push the screen width out just a bit, giving me a scroll bar with just a teeny bit of scroll distance.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:28 pm**

uncle mark wrote:
richb wrote: Sigs have a maximum of 255 characters. i just edited mine to the max. As I was adding characters they auto wrapped to the next line. How does your display look now with my max sig length.
It looks like yours wrapped fine. This page three of this thread hasn't shown a scroll bar like page one and two, UNTIL I posted my screenshots. They appeard to push the screed width out just a bit, giving me a scroll bar with just a teeny bit of scroll distance.

I cannot explain it I am afraid. I use Google Chrome, but I also tried Firefox without an issue, Has me stumped.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:36 pm**

hahaha... nice,

was pretty darn quick as well.

looks great here, 32bit opera, no scrolling unless i choose to view the screenshots. something about java scripts?

--> thanks <--

once again, beautiful

.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:42 pm**

One thing I've noticed is that the original post in a thread and it's replies aren't given post numbers like they were in the old forum.

For instance I think my reply in this thread is post #33.

In the old forum you could refer someone to a particular post in a thread by its number.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:46 pm**

Yes, the post # was very handy in certain situations.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:48 pm**

kmathern wrote:One thing I've noticed is that the original post in a thread and it's replies aren't given post numbers like they were in the old forum.

For instance I think my reply in this thread is post #33.

In the old forum you could refer someone to a particular post in a thread by its number.

Thank you, Yes, we noted that in the test phase. A module addition would be required as it is not in the base software. It is on a desired feature list.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 7:59 pm**

richb wrote:
uncle mark wrote:
It looks like yours wrapped fine. This page three of this thread hasn't shown a scroll bar like page one and two, UNTIL I posted my screenshots. They appeard to push the screed width out just a bit, giving me a scroll bar with just a teeny bit of scroll distance.
I cannot explain it I am afraid. I use Google Chrome, but I also tried Firefox without an issue, Has me stumped.

Interesting. I've viewed numerous posts/pages in numerous forums, and the only one that exhibits this behavior is this thread on the first two pages, and on page three only after I posted my screenshots.

I'll chalk it up to "weird stuff".

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:03 pm**

After clicking on "View Active Topics," I notice that threads I have read already change to a darker shade of blue, but just barely, not enough to be readily apparent. Can this color be changed to something a little more easily seen?

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:07 pm**

congrats on the switchover! getting used to everything.

has anyone else experienced an issue with being logged off? on the old forum i wouldn't have to login continuously, i would be able to login and remain logged in for weeks, months at a time. so far today i've had to log in 1/2 dozen times.

cookies are enabled, and the option to remain logged in checked.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:19 pm**

GoManutd wrote:congrats on the switchover! getting used to everything.

has anyone else experienced an issue with being logged off? on the old forum i wouldn't have to login continuously, i would be able to login and remain logged in for weeks, months at a time. so far today i've had to log in 1/2 dozen times.

cookies are enabled, and the option to remain logged in checked.

Yes, we are trying to chase that one down.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:29 pm**

Change is as good as rest, I guess. Slowly find things and it look is refreshing and looks great.

The only thing I wish there was is, in the column "last post", it would be nice to see the subject of that last post.

I sure not all of the bugs are out, but again, it looks great.

Thanks to all who worked on this project.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:42 pm**

I see in my signature there is the following at the end of the sequence [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

There was a rotating Mepis bar there. Is this something I need to look after/fix?

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:48 pm**

smilliken wrote:I see in my signature there is the following at the end of the sequence [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

There was a rotating Mepis bar there. Is this something I need to look after/fix?

You need to edit your signature in your control panel. I would remove that notation for now. There may be a way to get that bar in again. If you recreate it and copy the BB code it may work.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:52 pm**

richb wrote:
smilliken wrote:I see in my signature there is the following at the end of the sequence [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

There was a rotating Mepis bar there. Is this something I need to look after/fix?
You need to edit your signature in your control panel. I would remove that notation for now. There may be a way to get that bar in again. If you recreate it and copy the BB code it may work.

I believe it was I got from the Mepis site sometime ago. I'm sure they've been removed a long time ago, due to all of the new websites.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:57 pm**

smilliken wrote:
richb wrote:
smilliken wrote:I see in my signature there is the following at the end of the sequence [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

There was a rotating Mepis bar there. Is this something I need to look after/fix?
You need to edit your signature in your control panel. I would remove that notation for now. There may be a way to get that bar in again. If you recreate it and copy the BB code it may work.
I believe it was I got from the Mepis site sometime ago. I'm sure they've been removed a long time ago, due to all of the new websites.

If you do a Google search on "bulletin board" or "Forum signature bars", you will find sites that allow you to build one and give you the necessary code to add to your sig. I lost mine too, but am not going to reinstate it. It is rather distracting to me.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:06 pm**

What a surprise, new forum for 2011.
Looks good and works well, very well considering it's a whole new set up.
Makes me shudder to think about moving a forum.
Congratulations to all the people involved

Thank you NH

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:26 pm**

anticapitalista wrote:Very minor point, but could the orange "MEPIS Users Forum" logo/link be removed (is it necessary?) or made smaller? It seems a bit out of place.

Warren asked that our Forum header looked similar to the one at mepis.org. We felt that was a good idea for a uniform MEPIS web look, so we complied.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:44 pm**

richb, very small point, on the front page of the forum, under ANNOUNCEMENTS & RULES, Announcements
MEPISlovers Announcements will go here. Unless it's really important and then it will go in the Announcements box above the forums. Only Admin and Mods allowed to start threads here. Contact one of them if you have an announcement to make.

Mepislovers needs an edit; maybe to "MEPIS forums announcements will go here..."

Cheers NH

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:48 pm**

Nix Hard wrote:richb, very small point, on the front page of the forum, under ANNOUNCEMENTS & RULES, Announcements
MEPISlovers Announcements will go here. Unless it's really important and then it will go in the Announcements box above the forums. Only Admin and Mods allowed to start threads here. Contact one of them if you have an announcement to make.

Mepislovers needs an edit; maybe to "MEPIS forums announcements will go here..."

Cheers NH

Thank you! We probably have more loose ends like that around.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:50 pm**

DBeckett wrote:After clicking on "View Active Topics," I notice that threads I have read already change to a darker shade of blue, but just barely, not enough to be readily apparent. Can this color be changed to something a little more easily seen?

You will also notice the dot next to the post is blue if has been read and yellow/orange if it has not. Much more visible than a shade change.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:04 pm**

[sigh] So much to learn.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:06 pm**

If you have not noticed yet, the main forum has posts starting in 2009 to the present. All posts from Mepislovers, since inception, in 2006 through 2008, have been archived. You can view and search the read only archive. It is accessible through the "Archives" Link at the top of the page.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:06 pm**

richb wrote:
smilliken wrote:I see in my signature there is the following at the end of the sequence [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

There was a rotating Mepis bar there. Is this something I need to look after/fix?
You need to edit your signature in your control panel. I would remove that notation for now. There may be a way to get that bar in again. If you recreate it and copy the BB code it may work.

FWIW, the horizontal scroll started again with this post. The text box with smilliken's quote has a ton of dead space at the right, which appears to be causing the "widening" of the page.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:10 pm**

DBeckett wrote:[sigh] So much to learn.

You think you have a lot to learn! I have not crammed so much learning in a short time since cramming for college exams.
I think it will be rewarding, and the ease of updating the software when phpBB makes a revision with improvements and bug fixes will be a big plus.

Check out the Quick Start Guide attached to the first post in this thread.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:12 pm**

richb, last ML edit on the front page, sorry I should have checked the rest of the page last time.

GENERAL CATEGORY , General Topics, 4th paragraph [last one]
You can talk about other distros here, but no MEPIS bashing. You can email the developer of MEPIS if you just want to say you dislike or hate MEPIS. This site is called MEPISlovers for a reason.

Cheers NH

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:14 pm**

richb wrote:
DBeckett wrote:[sigh] So much to learn.
You think you have a lot to learn! I have not crammed so much learning in a short time since cramming for college exams.
I think it will be rewarding, and the ease of updating the software when phpBB makes a revision with improvements and bug fixes will be a big plus.

I'm sure you and the others involved in this transition are punchy by now. Don't think for a minute that your efforts are not appreciated!

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:15 pm**

Nix Hard wrote:richb, last ML edit on the front page, sorry I should have checked the rest of the page last time.

GENERAL CATEGORY , General Topics, 4th paragraph [last one]
You can talk about other distros here, but no MEPIS bashing. You can email the developer of MEPIS if you just want to say you dislike or hate MEPIS. This site is called MEPISlovers for a reason.

Cheers NH

Thanks again Nix!

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:21 pm**

DBeckett wrote:
richb wrote:
DBeckett wrote:[sigh] So much to learn.
You think you have a lot to learn! I have not crammed so much learning in a short time since cramming for college exams.
I think it will be rewarding, and the ease of updating the software when phpBB makes a revision with improvements and bug fixes will be a big plus.
I'm sure you and the others involved in this transition are punchy by now. Don't think for a minute that your efforts are not appreciated!

Well this is a great community and worth the effort the team put in, mainly for that reason. I cannot stress enough the outstanding job Peregrine did in making this come about. If you get a chance, give her a big thank you.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:45 pm**

uncle mark wrote:
richb wrote:
smilliken wrote:I see in my signature there is the following at the end of the sequence [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

There was a rotating Mepis bar there. Is this something I need to look after/fix?
You need to edit your signature in your control panel. I would remove that notation for now. There may be a way to get that bar in again. If you recreate it and copy the BB code it may work.
FWIW, the horizontal scroll started again with this post. The text box with smilliken's quote has a ton of dead space at the right, which appears to be causing the "widening" of the page.

I have this line as well, but I think it is due to the ctrl++ to enlarge the text. Over 50 and can't see!!

Is it possible to have the last 5 posts displayed on the main page? Not sure if this has been brought up.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:52 pm**

smilliken wrote:
uncle mark wrote:
FWIW, the horizontal scroll started again with this post. The text box with smilliken's quote has a ton of dead space at the right, which appears to be causing the "widening" of the page.
I have this line as well, but I think it is due to the ctrl++ to enlarge the text. Over 50 and can't see!!

Is it possible to have the last 5 posts displayed on the main page? Not sure if this has been brought up.

The last 5 newest posts are shown at the bottom left of the Index page.

Youngin. I am over 65. Yes enlarging the text that much will eventually cause a horizontal scroll to be required. I do not think we can do much about that.

Posted: **Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:59 pm**

It has been a long day. Headed for bed. I will catch up with any comments in the morning. Good Night.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:28 am**

Greetings all.
Thanks to all who contributed their personal time to this project/move.
I read the forum several times per day--right along with the morning cup.
I also check it at work--usually between flights.
I too will not see 60 (years) again. That being said, I find the "off black" text on gray background difficult to read. It just lacks contrast--at least to me.
The only other negative comment that I can come up with is the lack of the latest post info on the right side. That was the first place I always looked when logging on. Now, it requires clicking every subject to see what is being discussed.
I believe that the transition will just take a bit of time to become accustomed to.

Thanks, again for your unselfish work.

Jerry in Anchorage

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:10 am**

Karen, Rich, Jerry - congrats - it looks great.

Only other thing I see still missing that we talked about was user rep. As discussed, I see this as far more important than post count (I used rep when I first joined MEPIS Community to decide whose advice I should be following - especially when you get conflicting advice on occasion).

If there is no way of bringing it across automatically - if Karen is able to get me a list from the old database - I'll volunteer to enter it automatically user by user. Just let me know.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:21 am**

I know all you guys have worked your socks off get this sorted but:-

No redirect link was found on original site only 404 error.
Links on http://www.mepis.org/get-involved not updated yet.

I'm sure it's in hand, but just in case.

Well done.

NS.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:09 am**

Links on http://www.mepis.org/get-involved not updated yet.

There are many more links not working on mepis.org. Quick Links, Get Mepis/install Mepis, Get Help/Where to get help and User's manuals.
Henry

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:29 am**

Great work guys.

A small thing: My post count seems to be substantially lower. I don't mind that, but it also changed the title under my online status from "Mepis Guide" to "Mepis Rules" as well as the number of pyramids showing. I don't mind that either, I just noticed it and thought I would point it out in case it happened to anyone else.

If this has already been discussed, I apologize in advance.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:52 am**

muskt wrote:Greetings all.
Thanks to all who contributed their personal time to this project/move.
I read the forum several times per day--right along with the morning cup.
I also check it at work--usually between flights.
I too will not see 60 (years) again. That being said, I find the "off black" text on gray background difficult to read. It just lacks contrast--at least to me.
The only other negative comment that I can come up with is the lack of the latest post info on the right side. That was the first place I always looked when logging on. Now, it requires clicking every subject to see what is being discussed.
I believe that the transition will just take a bit of time to become accustomed to.

Thanks, again for your unselfish work.

Jerry in Anchorage

Try "View Unread Posts"

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:55 am**

Brooko wrote:Karen, Rich, Jerry - congrats - it looks great.

Only other thing I see still missing that we talked about was user rep. As discussed, I see this as far more important than post count (I used rep when I first joined MEPIS Community to decide whose advice I should be following - especially when you get conflicting advice on occasion).

If there is no way of bringing it across automatically - if Karen is able to get me a list from the old database - I'll volunteer to enter it automatically user by user. Just let me know.

You mean the points already accumulated? I think not. User rep is implemented, under your Avatar, but we are all starting from 0

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:59 am**

Roadblock wrote:Great work guys.

A small thing: My post count seems to be substantially lower. I don't mind that, but it also changed the title under my online status from "Mepis Guide" to "Mepis Rules" as well as the number of pyramids showing. I don't mind that either, I just noticed it and thought I would point it out in case it happened to anyone else.

If this has already been discussed, I apologize in advance.

Older posts have been archived. So your post count is from the start of 2009. I also changed the rank nomenclature.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:11 am**

muskt wrote: I too will not see 60 (years) again. That being said, I find the "off black" text on gray background difficult to read. It just lacks contrast--at least to me.

Jerry in Anchorage

Jerry, Just for reference, on my laptop screen it looks like a very bright background, white, and high contrast black text. The point being, visually, it will look different depending on the display. We could only evaluate based on the limited number of people, about 50, who logged into the test site, and our own equipment. Having said that, and I can make no promises. but perhaps the contrast can be tweaked.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:10 am**

It might be worth Jerry checking the 'gamma' setting for his display. I have mine lowered from 1.0 as that is retina-burning bright with this particular panel. Too low and the text gets washed out, and I'm guessing it looks somewhat as Jerry describes.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:49 am**

Such an awesome job!! You guys made it look way too easy...the mark of true professionals.

Like watching Willy Mays catch a fly ball over the shoulder running away (forgive, me...I'm an American).

All the best,

-Paul C.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:39 am**

Just wanted to say Thank You Peregrine, richb, and all the others who contributed to making the forum transition, it looks great and I'm sure we will all acclimate to the nuances of this new forum.

cheers,
ohh

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:11 am**

Thanks for the tip about adjusting the Gamma settings on my monitor. I went through the entire procedure (Win 7 at the time) & it is somewhat better, now. Strangely, none of the other forums that I participate in have the same contrast/background problems as this one does. I will adapt....

Maybe I'm just used to the bright white background (snow) that I have been living with for the last few months up here in the "frozen North".

Thanks again to all, & I hope you enjoy a great Christmas.

Jerry in Anchorage

I7-930
Asus P6X58d mobo With 6 Gig
Nvidia GTS250 with latest drivers
Samsung 226BW monitor

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:24 am**

Not sure where to put this, but the link to the forum on Mepis.org still points to the old mepislovers forum, and also there is no redirect at the old forum link, even googeling (sp?) still points to the old forum link, in one does not have the MepisCommunity link, pretty hard to find the new forum.

cheers,
ohh

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:27 am**

Those redirect changes take a while to propagate, but thanks.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:44 am**

Most posts -and also forum overviews- show a wide horizontal black line in the new Forums

If you are using NoSquint or zooming in another way, you will get black lines.
Henry

For what it is worth, For Google Chrome, there is an extension, "Zoom It", that changes font size on the fly. It preserves the frame so large text fits in the frame, no horizontal scrolling required. There is also a "Change Color" extension that will change page colors for the page, domain, or all domains to a predefined set. Firefox probably has similar extensions other than No squint.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:08 pm**

Joining in to say 'very well done' on the new forum. You guys are seriously bad! (don't the youngsters say that, or has it become obsolete already?)

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:26 pm**

Jerry3904 wrote:Those redirect changes take a while to propagate, but thanks.

hey big guy,

what i saw last night and again this morning ...

You have requested a domain on BriteSparkz Hosting that is not available

in the center of a white page but, you probably knew that

.

@ richb; along with thanks for all the great work, i like pyramids.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:34 pm**

Yeah, thanks. That BriteSparkz does not exist any more...we should have taken that out long ago.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:56 pm**

For all those who've put in blood, sweat, and tears in this transition, THANK YOU! I know it had to be a labor of love and it's really appreciated a lot here. Super job.

I had trouble realizing that the link wasn't going to be in place early. Finely this morning my neuron fired

and I realized that I could enter the URL manually.

I'll let things settle some before making any comments on the way things are working or setup. I think those who have scrolling issues may need a tweak on their browsers. For instance on Opera there is a 'fit to page' switch that may help some.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:00 pm**

Here's a possible source for the side scroll error, where the forum gets too wide and doesn't automatically re-flow. I've noticed that the problem seems to be associated with the thanks notification. If there are many thanks the notification gets very wide.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:05 pm**

arjaybe wrote:Here's a possible source for the side scroll error, where the forum gets too wide and doesn't automatically re-flow. I've noticed that the problem seems to be associated with the thanks notification. If there are many thanks the notification gets very wide.

If that proves to be the case we can remove that notification, or limit the number that show.

EDIT: I just removed the time notification. That should shorten it up.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:08 pm**

richb wrote:You mean the points already accumulated? I think not. User rep is implemented, under your Avatar, but we are all starting from 0

Yep - that's what I meant. Is there a way to bring the old rep in? Like I said, I don't mind editing members individually. I do think it is important. I just need the data.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:20 pm**

Brooko wrote:
richb wrote:You mean the points already accumulated? I think not. User rep is implemented, under your Avatar, but we are all starting from 0
Yep - that's what I meant. Is there a way to bring the old rep in? Like I said, I don't mind editing members individually. I do think it is important. I just need the data.

Edit all 3000 plus members or 600 plus active members! Big task. I believe that data is available in a copy of VB that Karen has. Not sure if it is in a concise usable format, however.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:03 pm**

quick question, in the old forum you used to be able to mark all forums read, so the next time you checked for unread posts the list would include everything after that marking. i can't find a similar function in this new forum software.

did a quick search and it looks like this capability can be introduced
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=2099365

it's a useful feature, but not at the top of the stomping out brush fires list...

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:07 pm**

GoManutd wrote:quick question, in the old forum you used to be able to mark all forums read, so the next time you checked for unread posts the list would include everything after that marking. i can't find a similar function in this new forum software.

did a quick search and it looks like this capability can be introduced
http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=2099365

it's a useful feature, but not at the top of the stomping out brush fires list...

We removed "Mark Forums Read" from the menu. It was not working properly and all our efforts, many hours spent, could not make it work. It remains something we want to reinstate, but need to have it function properly.

If you peruse the phpBB forum you will see numerous comments about problems with it, and proposed solutions. We tried several to no avail.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:20 pm**

We removed "Mark Forums Read" from the menu.

There's still one at the bottom of board index. It's not working any better.
Henry

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:33 pm**

First of all, I'd like to thank everyone involved in setting up the new forum, you all have done a tremendous job once again. This is a very nice Christmas present for the forum members.

Those not getting a re-direct from mepislovers, can click on http://www.mepiscommunity.org, click on forums, then click on the users forum image, which will bring up the new forum, then bookmark the new address, add it to speed dial, or whatever else you use.

Thanks again to you all :yourock:

Wayne

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:04 pm**

richb wrote:Edit all 3000 plus members or 600 plus active members! Big task. I believe that data is available in a copy of VB that Karen has. Not sure if it is in a concise usable format, however.

No hurry - Karen's aware and we'll have a look at the old VB when she's had a break. I expect the 600 active members will actually be fewer, as a lot of them will be spammers who haven't posted or users with under 10 posts (so have no rep anyway).

I'm guessing it will probably be only around 100-150 manual edits - and I could do them over a few days once I get the data. I might also be able to have a look at pruning any other obvious non-members (old spammers who slipped through) while I'm doing it.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:18 pm**

Brooko wrote:
richb wrote:Edit all 3000 plus members or 600 plus active members! Big task. I believe that data is available in a copy of VB that Karen has. Not sure if it is in a concise usable format, however.
No hurry - Karen's aware and we'll have a look at the old VB when she's had a break. I expect the 600 active members will actually be fewer, as a lot of them will be spammers who haven't posted or users with under 10 posts (so have no rep anyway).

I'm guessing it will probably be only around 100-150 manual edits - and I could do them over a few days once I get the data. I might also be able to have a look at pruning any other obvious non-members (old spammers who slipped through) while I'm doing it.

The banned group currently has no members. We deleted them, trusting the strength of phpBB in spam prevention. It is too early to tell, but we have not had any spammer registrations since we opened. We replaced the captcha with questions, ie "What is 5 added to the number of sides of a hexagon." It should cut down on auto registrations.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:42 pm**

First off, I would like to say congratulations on a job well done. I was a bit surprised when it went to a new forum while clicking on my MepisLovers link. I must have missed the announcement of the work being done and the testing forum.

Now for some feedback:

Roadblock wrote:Great work guys.

A small thing: My post count seems to be substantially lower. I don't mind that, but it also changed the title under my online status from "Mepis Guide" to "Mepis Rules" as well as the number of pyramids showing. I don't mind that either, I just noticed it and thought I would point it out in case it happened to anyone else.

If this has already been discussed, I apologize in advance.

Brooko wrote:
richb wrote:Edit all 3000 plus members or 600 plus active members! Big task. I believe that data is available in a copy of VB that Karen has. Not sure if it is in a concise usable format, however.
No hurry - Karen's aware and we'll have a look at the old VB when she's had a break. I expect the 600 active members will actually be fewer, as a lot of them will be spammers who haven't posted or users with under 10 posts (so have no rep anyway).

I'm guessing it will probably be only around 100-150 manual edits - and I could do them over a few days once I get the data. I might also be able to have a look at pruning any other obvious non-members (old spammers who slipped through) while I'm doing it.

I think these 2 things work together as well. I understand the need/desire for archiving the older posts, but having my post count cut by more than half and seeing my reputation down to 0 was a bit disheartening. Maybe it's just the egocentrist in me;) Personally I have used both these numbers to judge the experience and respect a poster has.
I also noticed that just giving a person "Thanks" does not add to the "Reputation" the way the old system did.

richb wrote:
kmathern wrote:One thing I've noticed is that the original post in a thread and it's replies aren't given post numbers like they were in the old forum.

For instance I think my reply in this thread is post #33.

In the old forum you could refer someone to a particular post in a thread by its number.
Thank you, Yes, we noted that in the test phase. A module addition would be required as it is not in the base software. It is on a desired feature list.

I'm glad to see this is being looked into.

A couple more things I've noticed are missing, and am not sure if they are even available in the new system.
First, the multi-quote option within a thread. I have several quotes here from this thread, which was a pain to compile. Doable, and not something done often, but it sure was a nice feature.
Second, the quote link. Previously if you hit the quote button, it would provide a link to the quoted text. This was especially nice if you were quoting from a different thread.

Overall, I think it's a good step forward. I'm sure there will be things along the way that will need ironing out. Old features missing and not replicable. New features that were never available. And it sounds like the backend will be easier to maintain. A big bonus to the people behind the scenes, and something us users rarely think about.

Thanks again for all the work done.

Al

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:49 pm**

Brooko wrote: Yep - that's what I meant. Is there a way to bring the old rep in? Like I said, I don't mind editing members individually. I do think it is important. I just need the data.

Do you take PayPal? My reputation could use a little "enhancement". <wink> <wink>

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:57 pm**

bigboppercole,

Regarding multi quotes, when you are composing a message, if you scroll down you will see posts in that thread with a quote button. You can click that to add those as quotes to your note.

The thanks and rep are different modules, so no interaction.

Starting at 0 rep -- we are an equal opportunity board.

Seriously I understand the value, time will take care of it. But Brooko has volunteered to do some manual adding as time permits.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:05 pm**

mepisguy: The mepislovers forum admins have updated the forum software and moved the forum to forum.mepiscommunity.org Thanks!

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:19 pm**

If you guys don't realize this was a huge enterprise to move a forum from one software forum to another and keep all the posts and features as close as possible to the original.

Thanks Karen and Rich and all the people who did the the work and testing.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:27 pm**

richb wrote:bigboppercole,

Regarding multi quotes, when you are composing a message, if you scroll down you will see posts in that thread with a quote button. You can click that to add those as quotes to your note.

Thanks, just a different way of doing things I see.

richb wrote:The thanks and rep are different modules, so no interaction.

I don't know yet if that's a good or bad thing. It didn't seem like there were many people adding rep other than through "Thanks" previously.

richb wrote:Starting at 0 rep -- we are an equal opportunity board. Seriously I understand the value, time will take care of it. But Brooko has volunteered to do some manual adding as time permits.

Yes, I understand as time goes on, it will sort itself out to a degree,... until the next forum software change;)

Adrian wrote:If you guys don't realize this was a huge enterprise to move a forum from one software forum to another and keep all the posts and features as close as possible to the original.

Thanks Karen and Rich and all the people who did the the work and testing.

I agree, this must have been a huge project. And also to keep in mind, this is all done by volunteers.

One nice think I just noticed. When you hit the "Preview" button, it will show posts submitted since you started yours at the top of the page.
And using the new "multi-quote" feature, I was able to add Adrian's quote. Nice.

Now if I could just find the "Subscribe" button to add it to Google Reader.

Al

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:33 pm**

Now if I could just find the "Subscribe" button to add it to Google Reader.

The feeds are available when you see the Forum Index in the right side of the forum titles.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:43 pm**

regarding zooming... if you use firefox and a wheel mouse, you can zoom in/out using CTRL+Wheelmouse OR
CTRL + +, CTRL + -, and the zooming sticks for the site.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:44 pm**

Adrian wrote:
Now if I could just find the "Subscribe" button to add it to Google Reader.
The feeds are available when you see the Forum Index in the right side of the forum titles.

Thanks, I hadn't noticed them. I was looking for a site wide feed. And I guess I still am;)

Al

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:12 pm**

Been travelling all day today (start of my 'vacations') so great to see all is up and running now - big shout to Rich and Peregrine who have really been working tirelessly to make this happen, and also to all who've tested and fed back while we've been in transition. Looks great!
I'm about for the next week - then off to Central America Jan 1st for a coupla months, so will only be able to pop in once in a while - will be back with you all in March though - don't worry! (might even need help with fresh install of M11 which should/will be out by then!!)

Great stuff!

Happy holidays all!

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:24 pm**

bigboppercole wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Now if I could just find the "Subscribe" button to add it to Google Reader.
The feeds are available when you see the Forum Index in the right side of the forum titles.
Thanks, I hadn't noticed them. I was looking for a site wide feed. And I guess I still am;)

Al

In the address bar.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:25 pm**

Acesabe wrote:Been travelling all day today (start of my 'vacations') so great to see all is up and running now - big shout to Rich and Peregrine who have really been working tirelessly to make this happen, and also to all who've tested and fed back while we've been in transition. Looks great!
I'm about for the next week - then off to Central America Jan 1st for a coupla months, so will only be able to pop in once in a while - will be back with you all in March though - don't worry! (might even need help with fresh install of M11 which should/will be out by then!!)

Great stuff! Happy holidays all!

Thanks. Have a good trip!

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:30 pm**

I've been away for a while. The new forum looks great!!
Thank you and have a Happy Holiday.
Dave

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:37 pm**

richb wrote:
bigboppercole wrote:
Adrian wrote: The feeds are available when you see the Forum Index in the right side of the forum titles.
Thanks, I hadn't noticed them. I was looking for a site wide feed. And I guess I still am;)

Al
In the address bar.

Now how long has that been there

I did have a bookmarklet that I used. Now instead of a new feed item by thread, I get one for each post. Not sure how I like that yet. I know, I know, advantages and disadvantages either way;)

Al

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:45 pm**

Is there the ability to set the number of posts one can see on the screen at a time, before having to go to the next page? The old forum had that ability. I could have 20 post on the screen before. Or is that tied to the post # which is not on the new forum yet?

Forum Time: My profile is set to UTC-7 and it says that at the bottom of the screen, yet it is 1 hour ahead of the real time.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:54 pm**

smilliken wrote:Is there the ability to set the number of posts one can see on the screen at a time, before having to go to the next page? The old forum had that ability. I could have 20 post on the screen before. Or is that tied to the post # which is not on the new forum yet?

Another question of mine, but I had so many;)

smilliken wrote:Forum Time: My profile is set to UTC-7 and it says that at the bottom of the screen, yet it is 1 hour ahead of the real time.

Maybe take a look if Day Light Savings Time is checked in your profile?

Al

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:03 pm**

smilliken wrote:Is there the ability to set the number of posts one can see on the screen at a time, before having to go to the next page? The old forum had that ability. I could have 20 post on the screen before. Or is that tied to the post # which is not on the new forum yet?

That is a forum wide setting, not individually controlled.

Forum Time: My profile is set to UTC-7 and it says that at the bottom of the screen, yet it is 1 hour ahead of the real time.

May very well be a DST setting.

EDIT: I see UTC-6 in your profile.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:10 pm**

By default it is set to no DST. A one hour difference makes that a likely cause.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:15 pm**

richb wrote:
smilliken wrote:Is there the ability to set the number of posts one can see on the screen at a time, before having to go to the next page? The old forum had that ability. I could have 20 post on the screen before. Or is that tied to the post # which is not on the new forum yet?
That is a forum wide setting, not individually controlled.

Forum Time: My profile is set to UTC-7 and it says that at the bottom of the screen, yet it is 1 hour ahead of the real time.
May very well be a DST setting.

EDIT: I see UTC-6 in your profile.

Funny, my screen says UTC-7

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:18 pm**

Hmmm. Let me set it in the admin panel and see what happens. Check your profile in about 2 minutes and let me know what it says and if the time is correct.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:27 pm**

no go Rich. Do you want me to turn off the DST?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:29 pm**

That's what I have and the time is correct here.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:32 pm**

smilliken wrote:no go Rich. Do you want me to turn off the DST?

My error I worked on the wrong profile. I just turned off DST. You can do this yourself in your profile.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:41 pm**

I want to add my thanks to you tireless people who have set up the new system.
Especially peregrine and richb.

BTW richb, you are always on line when I am and there is quite a time difference between us. Do you ever sleep?

Brooko wrote:
richb wrote:You mean the points already accumulated? I think not. User rep is implemented, under your Avatar, but we are all starting from 0
Yep - that's what I meant. Is there a way to bring the old rep in? Like I said, I don't mind editing members individually. I do think it is important. I just need the data.

I was just starting to accumulate points and I'd like to have it reinstated instead of starting from scratch. But it would be a big job.

Thanks Brooko for offering to take it on.

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:46 pm**

Sleep? What is that?

Posted: **Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:47 pm**

bigboppercole wrote:
Adrian wrote:
Now if I could just find the "Subscribe" button to add it to Google Reader.
The feeds are available when you see the Forum Index in the right side of the forum titles.
Thanks, I hadn't noticed them. I was looking for a site wide feed. And I guess I still am;)

Al

I get one automatically... I use Chrome Reader extension and it shows in the address bar, I just have to click on it and select where I want to put the feed.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:36 am**

Two complaints. First, I was using the search function to find a fix that I once posted several months or years ago. I found it, but the links within the thread were dead. They were links to other forum posts. That makes it quite difficult to follow a bread crumb trail back to the original greqat advice. For example

http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 77#p230477

The link in this post is dead. a minor annoyance to be sure, but sometimes I can remember a post I made, but might not remember enough info to get to the original post without going through one of mine.

Second, I don't know if it is the color scheme, the fonts, or what, but I find the new forum very difficult to read as compared to the old one.

These issues may have been addressed, but I was admitedly too lazy to read all 12 pages of this post.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:37 am**

Just a couple of comments...nice going on the new place...looks good, I just need to get used to it. I do miss the "Mark forums read" thing, it'll be nice when that works again...and it took me years to get a few "thanks" together, I'd hate to lose 'em.

Happy Holidays to all...

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:42 am**

Louie1961 wrote:Two complaints. First, I was using the search function to find a fix that I once posted several months or years ago. I found it, but the links within the thread were dead. They were links to other forum posts. That makes it quite difficult to follow a bread crumb trail back to the original greqat advice. For example

http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 77#p230477

The link in this post is dead. a minor annoyance to be sure, but sometimes I can remember a post I made, but might not remember enough info to get to the original post without going through one of mine.

Second, I don't know if it is the color scheme, the fonts, or what, but I find the new forum very difficult to read as compared to the old one.

These issues may have been addressed, but I was admitedly too lazy to read all 12 pages of this post.

Obviously links to MepisLovers are dead because the forum is closed. There may be a way around this. Need to look into it.

Color scheme is choice we made. You can try adjusting monitor gamma. There is a color change extension for Google Chrome that allows you to change the color scheme for a site. There are probably others for FF and opera. but I would try a gamma adjustment first.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:38 am**

Obviously links to MepisLovers are dead because the forum is closed. There may be a way around this. Need to look into it.

No easy solution to this.

The best we can do is for users to report the link and we will have to manually correct each one.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:07 am**

richb wrote:
Obviously links to MepisLovers are dead because the forum is closed. There may be a way around this. Need to look into it.
No easy solution to this.

The best we can do is for users to report the link and we will have to manually correct each one.

Fun!!!

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:49 am**

Louie1961 wrote:Two complaints. First, I was using the search function to find a fix that I once posted several months or years ago. I found it, but the links within the thread were dead. They were links to other forum posts. That makes it quite difficult to follow a bread crumb trail back to the original greqat advice. For example

http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 77#p230477

The link in this post is dead. a minor annoyance to be sure, but sometimes I can remember a post I made, but might not remember enough info to get to the original post without going through one of mine.

Karen was able to give me the link to correct this one. But I see other dead links in that thread. This could get unmanageable.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:15 pm**

hi guys,

was going to repair, due to minor corruption and bump a thread last night. when i noticed, i could neither edit or quote it safely

i gave up, "but not easily." the culprit! it's not a biggie, just thought i would mention it.

grazie, gracias, arigato, mercé, thanks ... :yourock:

and have a merry new year

ho, ho ...

:)

edit; removed a link, image.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 4:32 pm**

PM, Is there a delay in the out going messages, or am I doing something wrong?

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:04 pm**

Is there a delay in the out going messages, or am I doing something wrong?

No, it's not a delay. Message will leave outbox when it's read by the recipient, nice feature.
Henry

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:20 pm**

Am I the only one who finds this new forum a gross inconvenience to use?. Go ahead and flame me if you like; I got plenty of flames when I opposed Mepis going to Ubuntu verses pure Debian but now and then someone has to swim against the current or just shut-up. I used to pop in here more frequent because it was quick and easy to see what was new or had recently changed; sometimes I would login and sometimes not...the whole process took almost no time to get a good summary.... NOT so now, to get a good overview takes a lot of back and forth and frankly I just don't find it pleasing in any way so I find myself with less and less desire to visit the forum at all unless I have a spare 30 minutes or an hour to spare. I don't know what the problems were with the old forum that led to the switch and I'm sure it was done for good reason but at the same time a lot of "ease of use" was lost and it will be nice if it can be worked back in. I also notice a big step backward in the style and appeal compared to the old forum or the community site..... before looked "future" now looks "past". I hope you know I am not speaking without great appreciation of the countless hours of work with putting this all together because I know it was a lot of work and I do appreciate it but I wouldn't consider myself an honest member if I didn't share my personal experience as well. Ok, fire up the torches.....

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:39 pm**

Am I the only one who finds this new forum a gross inconvenience to use?

It's different and not very difficult to use. After testing it very heavily at the test site, I've grown accustomed to it and have learned to appreciate the new features. You can download richb's introduction from his first post in this thread. It's short but will tell you the main differences.
Henry

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:50 pm**

Not a flame - just an observation. This last posts sounds very typical of the usual 'have used kde4 for an hour and hate it' sort of knee jerk reaction. Suggest you use the new forum for a week - then post. Using it for a couple of days simply isn't enough time.

If there is one thing I absolutely love, it's the ability to go straight to the first unread post in a thread. This feature is marvelous!

As for everything else- it's different, but I'm having fun figuring it out.

If you really want an idea of what's difficult with the new set-up, then spare a thought for Karen, Rich and the main testers - who've had to take all the suggestions and then spend hours trying to figure out how to implement.

As far as the reason for making the change - phpbb is open source, and there is no cost with upgrades. It also has far better spam control. I can attest to the fact that so far spammers have not been an issue since the move. This may change - but it sure beats 5-6 admins / mods spending hours each day trying to keep the boards clear of the rubbish we've been having to put up with.

Jerry - give it a chance OK. Just be prepared to experiment to get know the forum software properly. I personally think this will end up being an improvement over the old ML.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:40 pm**

I like it fine. Must've been something you ate, JB.-)

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:26 pm**

@JBoman. Have you tried "View Unread Posts"? Gives you all the new posts you have not read with one click.

EDIT:I may be biased, but I spent a lot of time on the test forum, and was jumping back and forth between it and MepisLovers. After a short time, once I got used to the differences, I found I preferred the new software. But everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion.

We will continue to take suggestions and make improvements where practicable and possible. But there is no going back.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:36 pm**

loco wrote:hi guys,

was going to repair, due to minor corruption and bump a thread last night. when i noticed, i could neither edit or quote it safely i gave up, "but not easily." the culprit! it's not a biggie, just thought i would mention it.

Do not quite understand. What means "could neither edit or quote it safely". Can you give some details.

Posted: **Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:33 pm**

I tried using the "CTL+" option to increase the text size for easier viewing at 1280x800 (my laptops native resolution) and I get a spurious horizontal line in some of the post and it doesn't appear in the same place every time. It looks like something is not resizing with the increase in text size. This is not a fully researched observation, but if I do just one "CTL+" it appears in the near the top of the second post of a thread. If I do more than one it moves farther down to a different post in the thread and to a different location in the post. Also if I play with the re-sizing of text above or below the set level I also noticed some light gray lines appear. I think the best place to observe this is on the Board Index page.

EDIT: If I set the browser to zoom text only it does not seem to occur,

I am using Firefox for as my browser.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:15 am**

KrispyKritter wrote:I tried using the "CTL+" option to increase the text size for easier viewing at 1280x800 (my laptops native resolution) and I get a spurious horizontal line in some of the post and it doesn't appear in the same place every time. It looks like something is not resizing with the increase in text size. This is not a fully researched observation, but if I do just one "CTL+" it appears in the near the top of the second post of a thread. If I do more than one it moves farther down to a different post in the thread and to a different location in the post. Also if I play with the re-sizing of text above or below the set level I also noticed some light gray lines appear. I think the best place to observe this is on the Board Index page.

EDIT: If I set the browser to zoom text only it does not seem to occur,

I am using Firefox for as my browser.

I am seeing this also.

Attached image it is running through the Disable smilies.

Al

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 1:49 am**

bigboppercole wrote:
KrispyKritter wrote:I tried using the "CTL+" option to increase the text size for easier viewing at 1280x800 (my laptops native resolution) and I get a spurious horizontal line in some of the post and it doesn't appear in the same place every time. It looks like something is not resizing with the increase in text size. This is not a fully researched observation, but if I do just one "CTL+" it appears in the near the top of the second post of a thread. If I do more than one it moves farther down to a different post in the thread and to a different location in the post. Also if I play with the re-sizing of text above or below the set level I also noticed some light gray lines appear. I think the best place to observe this is on the Board Index page.

EDIT: If I set the browser to zoom text only it does not seem to occur,

I am using Firefox for as my browser.
I am seeing this also.

Attached image it is running through the Disable smilies.

Al

Sounds like a lot of people (including me) need better glasses or stop touching the crtl++

I've only seen on one of my desktops at 1280x1024.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:01 am**

Congratulations on getting the forum up and running.

However, going back to the first page of this thread.

Is there any plan for the latest post header to be shown on the index page of each section
...You can click on one of the | View active topics | View unread posts | View new posts |
.....You have a section with the 5 latest posts at the bottom of the index page, it's very small.
.......Yes, same as the test forum. We decided to leave as is

Come on people, this is a very clunky solution, the small window only shows a couple of entries and the View New Posts is all embracing and runs to 5 pages of maybe/maybe-not relevent to viewer content

Perhaps replace the long line of moderators, good for their ego's I suspect, with something usefull.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:46 am**

Rich / Karen
Found something that may be worth looking into. I'm not good with scripts - but could be the answer to the "most recent posts" issue
http://softinquiry.com/latest-posts-sta ... hpbb2.html

Is it any help?

@ tpcug2005

Perhaps replace the long line of moderators, good for their ego's I suspect, with something useful

Could you be any more caustic

Those mods have spent countless hours over the last 4-5 years keeping the old boards free of spammers and making sure everyone's time here is enjoyable. They do it for nothing. They don't even ask for your gratitude. What they deserve though is at least some measure of respect. I'll stop now before I post something I'll regret ....

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:57 am**

The long line most likely isn't even removable. They appear as mods are assigned to a forum section.

At least that is what I think he means and the line is what happens when I add a mod to a forum that is running an ancient version of phpbb. They get auto-added.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:15 am**

Could you be any more caustic

Those mods have spent countless hours over the last 4-5 years keeping the old boards free of spammers and making sure everyone's time here is enjoyable. They do it for nothing. They don't even ask for your gratitude. What they deserve though is at least some measure of respect.

Not being caustic at all, just making an observation. You do get my appreciation for all the help that is provided.

Just commenting on the Emperors New Clothes.

Maybe as suggested, a change is not possible/practicable, so be it. Or perhaps something like the linux mint forum which also uses phpbb.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:25 am**

Regarding the horizontal lines, there may be a workaround explained here.
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtop ... 73#p255273

@tpcug2005

Moderators are visible, not to blow their own horns. They are visible so users know the people to go to to do moderation. Since their status online is visible as well, quicker action can be taken. That action has nothing to do with board features, but moderating posts and threads only.

Sorry you are not happy with my responses to users comments, and do not find them useful. To expect that a major software change for the board would result in it looking exactly like the old one is obviously not possible. The comments section was set up to garner comments both good and bad, so that we could accommodate changes, and help users with functions they are unfamiliar with. All suggestions will not be implemented. Those features that are popular will be worked on. But none of it will happen overnight.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 5:35 pm**

.
Merry Christmas and thank you for your time.

@ The Big Guy :) Sure, I can reproduce this at any given time, and I do apologize for my, 'terminology' it plain will not work.

Method Not Implemented
GET to /posting.php not supported.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.8e-fips-rhel5 DAV/2 Server at forum.mepiscommunity.org Port 80
#‹#��##��

It's not a big deal as far as I’m concerned and I do understand that we've been through major software and hardware changes recently, a few times

. Which brings us back to the more recent conversations, concerning site modules, mambots … where to place them and sometimes, when to even use them.

“There is no such thing as constrictive criticism,” High School Gym Teacher .

That being said, I have noticed an undue amount of colored text strings, 'naming some of my favorite people.' As the site grows this list will only become larger, which is as it should be. So, maybe a couple of time on the front page as well as being included in all the sub forums and at the, 'bottom' of every page would be sufficient.

[minor rant] My personal feelings are that we have to many sections, I felt that we didn't need a new section for each New version of KDE that comes down the pipes. As it stands, it takes me something like twelve full mouse scrolls with my little hp ps2 optical. I find that distracting, especially if the new posts module, which I truly enjoy, has to remain at the bottom. [/minor rant]

yours truly :) james

ps as we become more familiar with the new software, and as the versions proceed, we're almost certain to attain newer functions ... ... heck, already see things that are better imo.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:08 pm**

hey loco,

The problem has been identified. The same issue exists with the wiki. It is a server side issue. It does not like a leading slash. Hence a leading slash in front of /etc/X11 for example causes problems. In this case I just put bold tags around the slash and it took it.

Code: Select all

[b]/[/b]etc/X11

We are going to look at paring down sections.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:51 pm**

richb wrote:The problem has been identified. The same issue exists with the wiki. It is a server side issue. It does not like a leading slash

Thanks, that one was bugging me all day (Friday).
Noticed one small glitch (sorry, didn't read the entire thread to see if it has been mentioned already).
If you click on a link to an external webpage (from a post) it doesn't open it in a New Browser Tab.
Instead it opens in the same Tab as (and replaces) forum.mepiscommunity.org

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:59 pm**

Davo wrote:
richb wrote:The problem has been identified. The same issue exists with the wiki. It is a server side issue. It does not like a leading slash
Thanks, that one was bugging me all day (Friday).
Noticed one small glitch (sorry, didn't read the entire thread to see if it has been mentioned already).
If you click on a link to an external webpage (from a post) it doesn't open it in a New Browser Tab.
Instead it opens in the same Tab as (and replaces) forum.mepiscommunity.org

Isn't that a browser related function? In Google Chrome I use a center click to open an external link in a new tab. A normal left click on all web sites opens an external link in the same tab.

Thanks to Jerry3904 for running down the slash problem.

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:06 pm**

richb wrote:
Davo wrote:
richb wrote:The problem has been identified. The same issue exists with the wiki. It is a server side issue. It does not like a leading slash
Thanks, that one was bugging me all day (Friday).
Noticed one small glitch (sorry, didn't read the entire thread to see if it has been mentioned already).
If you click on a link to an external webpage (from a post) it doesn't open it in a New Browser Tab.
Instead it opens in the same Tab as (and replaces) forum.mepiscommunity.org
Isn't that a browser related function? In Google Chrome I use a center click to open an external link in a new tab. A normal left click on all web sites opens an external link in the same tab.

No, it's not always browser related. Granted center click will open any link in a new tab/window, depending on browser settings. But a link can be set on the webpage to to that also. On the old forums, the links opened a new window/tab. I know on the website I help manage at work, we have to specify whether to open a new window or continue in the current one. Personally, I like the way the old forum worked, but I tend to use the center click method regardless of how the webpage is designed, to make sure that I am opening a new window.

Al

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:14 pm**

richb wrote:Isn't that a browser related function? In Google Chrome I use a center click to open an external link in a new tab. A normal left click on all web sites opens an external link in the same tab.

No, not really browser function ...at least, 95% of links that I click (mostly FF) do open in a new Tab as a rule.
It's not really an issue for me (i.e. just remember to Ctrl+Click them), but it's slightly inconvenient.
For example with 10+ Tabs opens, it'd be fairly easy to lose track of which one of them is "hiding" the forums behind it's Back button.

A quick Google gave this http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=2097113

Posted: **Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:26 pm**

Davo wrote:
richb wrote:Isn't that a browser related function? In Google Chrome I use a center click to open an external link in a new tab. A normal left click on all web sites opens an external link in the same tab.
No, not really browser function ...at least, 95% of links that I click (mostly FF) do open in a new Tab as a rule.
It's not really an issue for me (i.e. just remember to Ctrl+Click them), but it's slightly inconvenient.
For example with 10+ Tabs opens, it'd be fairly easy to lose track of which one of them is "hiding" the forums behind it's Back button.

A quick Google gave this http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopi ... &t=2097113

There is also this in the thread you referenced:

there are also some browser settings that will open links in a new tab or a new window that might help you.

I have added extensions in FF to control how links open. I no longer use FF, but I know they exist.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:22 am**

I think that most will think it will take longer than it really does. But I also think that feature-learning is going on and that's normal too.
Does anyone else have a one-line horizontal stripe of light blue-greenish color in all posts that lines up with the pyramids? It also appears on the front page and other places. One to each little section.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:33 am**

loco wrote:[minor rant] My personal feelings are that we have to many sections, I felt that we didn't need a new section for each New version of KDE that comes down the pipes. As it stands, it takes me something like twelve full mouse scrolls with my little hp ps2 optical. I find that distracting, especially if the new posts module, which I truly enjoy, has to remain at the bottom. [/minor rant]

That bothers me too. There are way too many sub-forums. And I agree with the comment about the KDE sub-forums. I mostly post in General forum, I have to scroll way down to find it. Many new people might find the structure intimidating.

We have more than 40 forums and for example forums.debian.net has 13 and all fit in one page (our forums not only that they are way too many but they also have wordy descriptions, the title should say it all, most of us will see those over and over, it's a waste to take up so much screen for something that people need to read only once, and some people don't even bother to do that, the forums should have a clear title and a description that should fit in one sentence or two, again take a look at forums.debian.net to see how much clear the forum looks like.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:39 am**

lucky9 wrote:I think that most will think it will take longer than it really does. But I also think that feature-learning is going on and that's normal too.
Does anyone else have a one-line horizontal stripe of light blue-greenish color in all posts that lines up with the pyramids? It also appears on the front page and other places. One to each little section.

This was discussed earlier in this thread, (miss post numbers, need to look into that as a mod), It appears that members using nosquint or some who use Ctrl+ or CTRL ++ see a line. The suggestion was to change font size in browser preferences if you need a larger font. I do not have the problem so cannot verify if this fixes it. But some have reported success.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:39 am**

Adrian wrote:
loco wrote:[minor rant] My personal feelings are that we have to many sections, I felt that we didn't need a new section for each New version of KDE that comes down the pipes. As it stands, it takes me something like twelve full mouse scrolls with my little hp ps2 optical. I find that distracting, especially if the new posts module, which I truly enjoy, has to remain at the bottom. [/minor rant]
That bothers me too. There are way too many sub-forums. And I agree with the comment about the KDE sub-forums. I mostly post in General forum, I have to scroll way down to find it. Many new people might find the structure intimidating.

We have more than 40 forums and for example forums.debian.net has 13 and all fit in one page (our forums not only that they are way too many but they also have wordy descriptions, the title should say it all, most of us will see those over and over, it's a waste to take up so much screen for something that people need to read only once, and some people don't even bother to do that, the forums should have a clear title and a description that should fit in one sentence or two, again take a look at forums.debian.net to see how much clear the forum looks like.

Agree, we need to work on this.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:42 am**

Is it possible to set the forum up so that when your cursor hovers over a thread title, there's a pop-up showing part of the original post? The old forums had this, and some other Linux forums have it as well.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:51 am**

malspa wrote:Is it possible to set the forum up so that when your cursor hovers over a thread title, there's a pop-up showing part of the original post? The old forums had this, and some other Linux forums have it as well.

Do not know. I will need to research.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:11 pm**

JBoman wrote:Am I the only one who finds this new forum a gross inconvenience to use?

Couldn't agree more. Perhaps Brooko is correct in his assessment (in my case that is), but I am not sure what the problem was with the old forum that we were trying to solve. It worked (at least as far as I could see), and we were all used to it. To me the new forum looks like change for the sake of change alone. I am not a fan. I am also not happy that our stats were all reset to zero. Call me silly, but I was rather proud of my reputation rating and such.

OK, flame away....

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:17 pm**

Louie1961 wrote:Couldn't agree more. Perhaps Brooko is correct in his assessment (in my case that is), but I am not sure what the problem was with the old forum that we were trying to solve. It worked (at least as far as I could see), and we were all used to it. To me the new forum looks like change for the sake of change alone. I am not a fan. I am also not happy that our stats were all reset to zero. Call me silly, but I was rather proud of my reputation rating and such.

I'm very happy with the new forum. Going to the old MepisLovers forums using Chromium or Chrome was very annoying to me. I wasn't having problems with any other Linux forums, only MepisLovers.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:22 pm**

I'm sorry, but this won't be the desired flame.-) I seem to remember, although I do have CRS syndrome, that we were unhappy more than once with the old forum. I have the sense that this move to a new system was generally agreed to be a good idea. It is my opinion that the differences/inconveniences perceived here don't even register on the same scale as the desirability of the change. But then, I'm adaptable.-)

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:26 pm**

Louie1961 wrote:
JBoman wrote:Am I the only one who finds this new forum a gross inconvenience to use?
Couldn't agree more. Perhaps Brooko is correct in his assessment (in my case that is), but I am not sure what the problem was with the old forum that we were trying to solve. It worked (at least as far as I could see), and we were all used to it. To me the new forum looks like change for the sake of change alone. I am not a fan. I am also not happy that our stats were all reset to zero. Call me silly, but I was rather proud of my reputation rating and such.

OK, flame away....

You asked for it.

But if you had paid attention, you'd have known that:
- the old forum was NOT open source
- the old forum software was obsolete and had to be replaced since it was no longer supported
- the old forum software would have cost money to upgrade to a newer version
- the old forum software had inadequate spam protection
- the old forum software ran on a virtual machine on warren's server, and could not be managed / backupped properly

After a couple of tests it was decided that phpbb fitted the bill best, and the team have worked very hard to get a smooth transition. They did a thorough job.

Instead of whining about some minor changes, you should be proud that this community has people that voluntarily take on a huge project such as migrating a big forum in their spare time, without receiving nothing else but recognition. Apparently, even that is too much to ask sometimes.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:28 pm**

Louie1961 wrote:
JBoman wrote:Am I the only one who finds this new forum a gross inconvenience to use?
Couldn't agree more. Perhaps Brooko is correct in his assessment (in my case that is), but I am not sure what the problem was with the old forum that we were trying to solve. It worked (at least as far as I could see), and we were all used to it. To me the new forum looks like change for the sake of change alone. I am not a fan. I am also not happy that our stats were all reset to zero. Call me silly, but I was rather proud of my reputation rating and such.

OK, flame away....

Regarding your change for the sake of change comment, not a flame response follows. These reasons for change were posted as an Announcement in every forum section on ML.

1. Our version of VB was quite old. Updating it entails a subscription cost. So it was static.
2. phpBB has much better spam control features. Mods and admins were spending an inordinate amount of time banning and deleting spammers on a daily basis.
3. phpBB is open Source, easy to upgrade, and has an active help forum, We could not get substantial help on VB without paying for it.

In my view that is justification enough. there are probably more advantages that the the other team members can list.

Everyone was invited to log in to the test forum that was up for over a month and post comments. In no small part, the results there encouraged us to proceed.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:30 pm**

Its just different

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:38 pm**

Louie1961 wrote:I am not sure what the problem was with the old forum that we were trying to solve. It worked (at least as far as I could see), and we were all used to it. To me the new forum looks like change for the sake of change alone.

The problems with the old forum were being hidden from most users. The old (proprietary) software was out of date, and not as secure as the new software. It required constant admin intervention to keep the spam under control. Implementing new features & controls was difficult because the software was out of date and buying the new version would have required a board migration in any case.

With Donna not active anymore it fell upon those willing to run the forum to handle things. I might have made different choices, but they managed to migrate the board with a minimum of interruption in service and kept all the important functionality intact.

I'm still getting used to the new layout myself, and am occasionally annoyed by the changes - but I know it wasn't "change for change's sake".

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 1:52 pm**

And to add, we are always open to constructive comments and criticism with detail. The emphasis is on constructive. "I do not like it", does not help us much to make improvements.

I am not complaining, as it was a labor of love, but this has turned into a full time job for us for the past several days, (and the pay is lousy).

Believe me if we just wanted to change for the sake of change, we would not have lifted a finger.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:40 pm**

I'm reading "the whining" as an unarticulated constructive comment. It shows the dedication to this second home. When you first move around the furniture it feels alien, but after a few days you don't remember how it was before.
Mepislovers was tweaked and worked on for many years. The new forum has only been up for a few days and see how much richb and peregrine have achieved already. Imagine what it will be like in another two years!
Henry

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:49 pm**

richb wrote:And to add, we are always open to constructive comments and criticism with detail. The emphasis is on constructive. "I do not like it", does not help us much to make improvements.

I am not complaining, as it was a labor of love, but this has turned into a full time job for us for the past several days, (and the pay is lousy). Believe me if we just wanted to change for the sake of change, we would not have lifted a finger.

Rich, I did not even notice the new forum software until a day or two after it changed, but I am completely supportive of whatever the leaders choose to do. For me, though, it's an added plus: I happen to like the way the phpBB software works, and so far, I am quite pleased with the way that things have turned out.

I want to publicly thank, not only you, but all the administrators and those who work behind the scenes. This community has long had one of the best, if not the best distribution community forum. The combination of this forum and the wisdom of Warren Wordford make the MEPIS offerings hard to beat. I sincerely thank each one of you!

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:10 pm**

The "Thanks" button disappears after four thanks or less. Can this be changed? And moves to the middle of the line after one "Thanks". See attached example (or the first two posts in this thread).
Henry

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:22 pm**

I believe the number of thanks is limited to overcome a side scrolling problem caused when the list of thanks gets too wide. PCMIIW

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:39 pm**

I believe the number of thanks is limited

Nothing wrong with that. But isn't it a little bit random? This "Thanks" button disappeared after one thanks (I'm not writing this to get more). And see the position of the "report" button. What is it doing alone in the middle?
Or is it a time limit instead of number of thanks? Could explain it.
Henry

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:50 pm**

I really don't know. And those moving buttons are quirky, aren't they? It seems as soon as thanks appear, the buttons move. Not a biggie, though.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 4:59 pm**

@Utopia. No time limit on thanks, there is on rep. You cannot thank yourself, that is why your posts have no thanks button.
@ arjaybe. Not quirky, the buttons left justify to the thanks report. That is why it appears in the middle. We could disable the thanks report in the post You could click the number of thanks in your Avatar block, and see what posts were thanked for, but if we remove reporting you would not know by whom.

You both may recall this came up during the test phase.
I do not know if there is a mod to justify right, or if the code can be changed. But it is not a priority.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:17 pm**

@Utopia. No time limit on thanks, there is on rep.

I tried to give you a thanks, that's how I found the first missing button. Do you have to compete and be among the first four to use it?
And giving yourself a thanks would be nice when you have one of those brilliant thoughts that no one else understands.
Henry

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:22 pm**

Utopia wrote:
@Utopia. No time limit on thanks, there is on rep.
I tried to give you a thanks, that's how I found the first missing button. Do you have to compete and be among the first four to use it?

Well then that is a major problem.

I will try to duplicate it. (by giving you thanks, twice).

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:29 pm**

What happens if you give one user a thanks is that the button turns into a thumbs down, so you can remove the thanks. You cannot give thanks twice to the same post. I did not see the button disappear, and thumbs up is still on all of your other posts.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:39 pm**

Utopia wrote: And giving yourself a thanks would be nice when you have one of those brilliant thoughts that no one else understands.
Henry

Now that is a great loss! But you can still "report" yourself.-)

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:43 pm**

arjaybe wrote:
Utopia wrote: And giving yourself a thanks would be nice when you have one of those brilliant thoughts that no one else understands.
Henry
Now that is a great loss! But you can still "report" yourself.-)

A true honor system that ala West Point.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:16 pm**

Has it been commented on that the forum seems to be a little more responsive? That seems to be the case here.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:32 pm**

And you can have 5 thanks on a post:

snapshot2.png

I don't know what the limit (if any) is, but it's not 4.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:05 pm**

lucky9 wrote:Has it been commented on that the forum seems to be a little more responsive? That seems to be the case here.

Yes, it is here too. Very nice.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:17 pm**

peregrine wrote:Uncle Mark, the width is fluid, it adjusts to whatever size you have. I have a 1920X 1080. It can fill the screen or half the screen with no horizontal scroll bars in FF.
As Adrian suggested, could it be an add on or a setting in FF?

i don't think it's a Firefox issue as i am seeing the same issue in Konquerer 3.5.

it mostly appears from the originating post in each thread where sentences are longer then the width of the text box. apparently, what ever controls the line length of each sentence is not working.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 8:38 pm**

robert1 wrote:
peregrine wrote:Uncle Mark, the width is fluid, it adjusts to whatever size you have. I have a 1920X 1080. It can fill the screen or half the screen with no horizontal scroll bars in FF.
As Adrian suggested, could it be an add on or a setting in FF?

i don't think it's a Firefox issue as i am seeing the same issue in Konquerer 3.5.

it mostly appears from the originating post in each thread where sentences are longer then the width of the text box. apparently, what ever controls the line length of each sentence is not working.

Can you give me a screen shot of a post you see exhibiting this. Are there images involved, code tags, other tags? I do not see it.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 10:14 pm**

richb wrote:
malspa wrote:Is it possible to set the forum up so that when your cursor hovers over a thread title, there's a pop-up showing part of the original post? The old forums had this, and some other Linux forums have it as well.
Do not know. I will need to research.

That would be a nice feature (hover/pop-up) to see added ...if it was doable
Found this one Topic Preview (for versions 3.0.6~3.0.8 ) http://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/topic_preview/
...which claims to use no added resources (no db queries etc) and uses a web browser's inbuilt textual tooltip capability.

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:16 pm**

Thank You for the recent topics feature; it's very nice. Also thank you for the explanations for the change. I missed the announcement and the test forum and after seeing the reasons I have to wholeheartedly agree. I get the feel today that it will continue to grow on me like Dolphin and Plasma has. Apologies for my early complaints; I have to skulk away and eat some humble pie now....

Great work folks!, Jerry

Posted: **Sun Dec 26, 2010 11:31 pm**

Rome wasn't built in a day. Plenty of time to tweak things. I've been amazed at the speed of the changeover moving from planning to implementation as fast as it has.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:42 am**

The old BBS was so much better.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:52 am**

jennifer wrote:The old BBS was so much better.

Very helpful.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:11 am**

richb wrote:
jennifer wrote:The old BBS was so much better.
Very helpful.

Indeed, but I'm afraid I have to agree with her.

Chris

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:16 am**

chrispop99 wrote:
richb wrote:
jennifer wrote:The old BBS was so much better.
Very helpful.
Indeed, but I'm afraid I have to agree with her.

Chris

I would prefer if details were given. Respectfully, comments like this do not help us to make improvements.

If you want to create a poll to register a simple like dislike, or similar words it would be appropriate to gauge overall satisfaction. But again details would be appreciated.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:58 am**

Ok, so I read through all the posts in this thread and did not see a solution to this, so I am going to attempt to explain what I have discovered and hopefully will help those who desire to have a post # to reference to.

If you hover your cursor over the page icon, located at the top left corner of the message box next to the right arrow that points to the post title you will see that in (at least Opera shows at the bottom of the page the address for that specific post, for example:

Code: Select all

http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?p=254960#p254960

In Opera if you right click while hovering on the post icon you can copy the link address of that particular post and can then refer to that particular post for reference for the future or can use it to point that particular post out to someone, aka the old post # at the old mepislovers forum,
a little convoluted yes, but doable and useful.

I will test this out with Firefox and Chrome later.

Edit: Ok, this works in FF also and richb verified works in Chrome too.

cheers,
ohh

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:03 am**

oldhoghead wrote:Ok, so I read through all the posts in this thread and did not see a solution to this, so I am going to attempt to explain what I have discovered and hopefully will help those who desire to have a post # to reference to.

If you hover your cursor over the page icon, located at the top left corner of the message box next to the right arrow that points to the post title you will see that in (at least Opera shows at the bottom of the page the address for that specific post, for example:
Code: Select all
http://forum.mepiscommunity.org/viewtopic.php?p=254960#p254960
In Opera if you right click while hovering on the post icon you can copy the link address of that particular post and can then refer to that particular post for reference for the future or can use it to point that particular post out to someone, aka the old post # at the old mepislovers forum,
a little convoluted yes, but doable and useful.

I will test this out with Firefox and Chrome later.

cheers,
ohh

Good tip! Works the same in Google Chrome.

EDIT:If you would be willing, why don't you write this as a How To, and post it in the How-To's Forum.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:24 am**

If you hover your cursor over the page icon

You can do the same on the "Quote" button to the right, it's larger in size and easier to find. Some other buttons will give you the same information.
Thanks for the tip, shows there are so many possibilities in the new forum.
Henry

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:27 am**

richb,

No problem, just wanted some feedback to make sure my explanation was clear enough, will get that done today.

cheers,
ohh

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:40 am**

We are looking for a mod that will add the post number. So far all we have found simply add a 1, 2, 3 post number to a thread. There is a lot of information on the phpBB website, it is not always easy to find what you are looking for.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:56 am**

Re:Oldhogheads Post.

When using Firefox 4 the "post address" appears in the right side of the address bar when using the mouse over. Not that easy to spot as it's faded out.

NS.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:23 am**

Thanks to the team behind the new forum, a quick question which is not strictly related to the new forum, are we able to change users names??

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:40 am**

Changing user names is not allowed as far as I know.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:55 am**

Adrian wrote:Changing user names is not allowed as far as I know.

That is correct.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:23 pm**

richb wrote:
I would prefer if details were given. Respectfully, comments like this do not help us to make improvements.

If you want to create a poll to register a simple like dislike, or similar words it would be appropriate to gauge overall satisfaction. But again details would be appreciated.

I did try the new BBS when it was in the test phase, and reported that for my monitor/graphics/eyesight, the text was too small. My usual solution is to use a Firefox add-on called No-Squint, but this resulted in random horizontal lines. I included a screen grab for illustration. (I've used No-Squint for several years, and have never seen this on any other web-site.)

The only apparent solution offered was to use a different browser, which is not what I want to do.

I'm struggling on with my nose pressed to the screen, but in spite of trying to be open-minded, it seems much more difficult to navigate around.

Not that i think it's going to be a likely option, but if it came to a vote I would go back to the old BBS in an instant.

Chris

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:30 pm**

chrispop99 wrote:
richb wrote:
I would prefer if details were given. Respectfully, comments like this do not help us to make improvements.

If you want to create a poll to register a simple like dislike, or similar words it would be appropriate to gauge overall satisfaction. But again details would be appreciated.
I did try the new BBS when it was in the test phase, and reported that for my monitor/graphics/eyesight, the text was too small. My usual solution is to use a Firefox add-on called No-Squint, but this resulted in random horizontal lines. I included a screen grab for illustration. (I've used No-Squint for several years, and have never seen this on any other web-site.)

The only apparent solution offered was to use a different browser, which is not what I want to do.

I'm struggling on with my nose pressed to the screen, but in spite of trying to be open-minded, it seems much more difficult to navigate around.

Not that i think it's going to be a likely option, but if it came to a vote I would go back to the old BBS in an instant.

Chris

Have you tried changing the native font size in your browser?

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:41 pm**

richb wrote:
Have you tried changing the native font size in your browser?

Wouldn't that affect all the other sites I visit?

Chris

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:44 pm**

chrispop99 wrote:
richb wrote:
Have you tried changing the native font size in your browser?
Wouldn't that affect all the other sites I visit?

Chris

Yes. But if it is a readable font size for you, would that not be OK on other sites.? I cannot answer that, a trial will tell you if it is usable with whatever you choose.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:29 pm**

chrispop99 wrote:
richb wrote:
I would prefer if details were given. Respectfully, comments like this do not help us to make improvements.

If you want to create a poll to register a simple like dislike, or similar words it would be appropriate to gauge overall satisfaction. But again details would be appreciated.
I did try the new BBS when it was in the test phase, and reported that for my monitor/graphics/eyesight, the text was too small. My usual solution is to use a Firefox add-on called No-Squint, but this resulted in random horizontal lines. I included a screen grab for illustration. (I've used No-Squint for several years, and have never seen this on any other web-site.)

The only apparent solution offered was to use a different browser, which is not what I want to do.

I'm struggling on with my nose pressed to the screen, but in spite of trying to be open-minded, it seems much more difficult to navigate around.

Not that i think it's going to be a likely option, but if it came to a vote I would go back to the old BBS in an instant.

Chris

The answer is simple, press and hold Ctrl then use the scroll on your mouse to increase or decrease the page size. so you can have it as large as you want or as small as you want, within reason.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:34 pm**

Danum wrote: The answer is simple, press and hold Ctrl then use the scroll on your mouse to increase or decrease the page size. so you can have it as large as you want or as small as you want, within reason.

Just learned something! Thanks.

Posted: **Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:37 pm**

Danum wrote:The answer is simple, press and hold Ctrl then use the scroll on your mouse to increase or decrease the page size. so you can have it as large as you want or as small as you want, within reason.

That does the same thing as ctrl+/-, which is to introduce the horizontal line, hence the suggestion to change the font size.

Al

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